Times are UTC Toggle Colours
00:00:06 *** avdg1 has left #openttdcoop 00:01:51 *** avdg has quit IRC 00:08:35 *** Fuco has quit IRC 00:10:58 <glevans2> !password 00:10:58 <PublicServer> glevans2: gulped 00:11:12 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:11:12 <PublicServer> *** glevans2 joined the game 00:14:57 *** smoovi has quit IRC 00:25:55 *** kei_ has quit IRC 00:26:03 *** kei_ has joined #openttdcoop 00:27:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005A76: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00005A76.png 00:42:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000497A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000497A.png 00:45:28 <PublicServer> *** glevans2 has left the game (leaving) 00:57:00 *** pugi has quit IRC 00:57:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005579: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00005579.png 01:04:52 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:19:39 *** Jkrueger has quit IRC 01:31:01 *** malta has joined #openttdcoop 02:52:51 *** malta has quit IRC 04:30:14 *** llugo has joined #openttdcoop 04:37:24 *** lugo has quit IRC 04:51:57 *** llugo has quit IRC 05:12:11 *** leg3nd has quit IRC 05:39:44 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 05:54:57 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 06:22:53 *** Firartix has quit IRC 07:11:03 *** ASD has joined #openttdcoop 07:11:29 *** ASD has quit IRC 07:15:28 *** mr_pants has joined #openttdcoop 07:15:42 *** V453000 is now known as Guest281 07:15:42 *** mr_pants is now known as V453000 07:15:58 <V453000> @op 07:15:58 *** Webster sets mode: +o V453000 07:16:00 <V453000> hello :) 07:16:44 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 07:21:20 *** V453000 has quit IRC 07:31:23 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 07:31:31 <DayDreamer> !password 07:31:31 <PublicServer> DayDreamer: gulped 07:31:44 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 07:31:48 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:34:05 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has joined spectators 07:35:04 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 07:38:21 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 07:42:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000567A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000567A.png 07:43:25 *** V has joined #openttdcoop 07:43:49 *** V is now known as V453000 07:44:09 *** V453000 has left #openttdcoop 07:44:13 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 07:44:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 08:03:52 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 08:03:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 08:18:19 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 08:18:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 08:24:14 *** Fuco has quit IRC 08:35:13 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 08:40:35 *** Cap_J_L_Picard has quit IRC 08:41:09 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 08:44:30 *** Mortomes|Work has joined #openttdcoop 08:47:46 *** V453000 has quit IRC 08:47:52 *** pugi has quit IRC 08:52:27 *** Moah has joined #openttdcoop 08:52:42 *** Moah is now known as V453000 09:01:25 *** Djarshi has joined #openttdcoop 09:23:27 *** V453000 has quit IRC 09:33:01 <Ammler> !genkey ODM 09:33:02 <PublicServer> Ammler: Key sent to ODM 09:33:09 <Ammler> this :-P 09:34:30 <Ammler> !genkey dih 09:34:30 <PublicServer> Ammler: Key sent to dih 09:35:26 <dih> what on earth is that?? 09:35:46 <Ammler> append that key to http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public 09:55:28 *** perk11 has quit IRC 10:11:31 *** Guest281 is now known as V453000 10:16:15 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 10:32:53 <planetmaker> a very nifty comfort feature for 'power'-coopers ;-) 11:06:28 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 11:06:43 <theholyduck> !screen 11:06:43 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000567A.png) 11:22:01 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 11:22:17 *** lasershock has quit IRC 11:22:26 *** DayDreamer1 has joined #openttdcoop 11:25:08 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 11:25:29 *** lasershock has joined #openttdcoop 11:31:30 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 11:51:44 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:51:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 12:04:27 *** Cap_J_L_Picard has joined #openttdcoop 13:01:11 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 13:01:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 13:05:22 *** Firartix has quit IRC 13:11:25 *** bmarky has joined #openttdcoop 13:11:35 <bmarky> !password 13:11:35 <PublicServer> bmarky: gulped 13:11:51 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:11:53 <PublicServer> *** bmarky joined the game 13:12:31 <PublicServer> *** bmarky has left the game (connection lost) 13:12:34 *** bmarky has left #openttdcoop 13:12:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005A76: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00005A76.png 13:14:17 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 13:14:52 <theholyduck> !passwor 13:14:53 <theholyduck> !password 13:14:54 <PublicServer> theholyduck: elapse 13:15:04 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:15:07 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 13:15:48 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:15:51 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 13:24:23 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has left the game (connection lost) 13:30:30 <V453000> !password 13:30:30 <PublicServer> V453000: elapse 13:30:40 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:30:40 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 13:30:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> lo 13:31:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> omg? 13:31:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:40:09 <theholyduck> omg what? 13:40:18 <theholyduck> !screen 13:40:18 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00005A76.png) 13:40:32 <theholyduck> the 6/6 split? 13:41:24 <V453000> chaos validity, rahter 13:42:20 <uliko> Oh my, close vote still 13:43:03 <V453000> we could move chaos to PZ, since it is barely manageable on PS anyway 13:44:09 <theholyduck> V453000, well sure, 13:44:14 <theholyduck> but the barely managable nature of it is fun 13:44:26 <uliko> ^ 13:44:37 <V453000> barely manageable in terms of controlling how people fuck up, not in terms of building skills 13:44:39 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:44:41 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 13:44:42 <V453000> in the end you demolish all of it anyway 13:44:54 <theholyduck> V453000, watching the thing grow is whats nice 13:45:00 <V453000> exactly 13:45:05 <theholyduck> and even in normal game, we end up demolishing a lot of stuff 13:45:06 <theholyduck> anyway 13:45:07 <uliko> It also looks better, with a set network layout all you get is long straight tracks. Chaos gives it a more fluid/awesome nature imo 13:45:09 <V453000> but when people fuck up so much that it cant grow, it is only for PZ 13:45:25 <V453000> yes, but in a normal game, it has a forced system 13:45:47 <V453000> uliko: why not have a normal game with allowed escape mechanisms? 13:46:06 <V453000> which is the only difference between having a fixed ML and chaos 13:46:12 <V453000> or ... the main one in the end 13:46:14 <uliko> Humm? 13:46:26 <V453000> well, what do you do when something fucks up in chaos 13:46:29 <V453000> you can make a bypass 13:46:34 <V453000> which you normally cant 13:46:40 <V453000> but still, there HAS to be some system 13:46:50 <V453000> some ML emerges anyway 13:46:54 <V453000> why cant that be planned 13:47:25 <uliko> I'm not saying it cant but then it's just a normal game? 13:47:36 <V453000> no 13:47:50 <V453000> define the difference between the start of normal game and chaos, besides it is L_R 13:47:55 <V453000> you need to have some structure 13:47:57 <V453000> everywhere 13:48:09 <V453000> and with chaos you can do mess around ... which can be allowed even normally 13:48:42 <V453000> the point is, if nobody knows where are we going, which is in chaos's case, there tends to be no system ... chaos 13:48:58 <uliko> Yeah I guess 13:49:11 <V453000> if the game aims to be at least a bit successful, we need some system 13:49:19 <uliko> But what I find most appealing is the fact that it starts as LR and not LLLRRR or something which means alot of building 13:49:22 <V453000> if not, lets join goal servers and noob our asses off 13:49:34 <planetmaker> that's too boring 13:49:38 <planetmaker> You win in no time 13:49:42 <V453000> then plan L_R with planned network, like in psg 190 13:50:20 <uliko> You need imagination to make a plan :p and some general idea of what's done before too 13:50:21 <V453000> planetmaker: no, but without system, we are getting closer to likely failing games 13:50:42 <theholyduck> well yeah, i'm all for structure with some of the freedoms that chaos allows 13:50:48 <V453000> yes 13:50:49 <theholyduck> and a game designed to be organic 13:50:53 <V453000> yes 13:50:55 <V453000> still ok 13:50:57 <uliko> What's failing? Going bankrupt? I do this for fun not to get 1k performance (which we never do anyway) 13:50:59 <V453000> but make at least a ML 13:51:01 <V453000> some system 13:51:13 <theholyduck> uliko, tons of jams 13:51:14 <theholyduck> is failing 13:51:17 <V453000> yes 13:51:34 <theholyduck> the network should operate smoothly at capacity without jams 13:51:44 <theholyduck> is more or less the goal 13:51:46 <V453000> why do you think 181 was called Jamming United? because the first part of the game totally failed ... then everything got completely rebuilt ... 13:51:58 <uliko> Why is it doomed to jam all over the place just because the ML isn't placed 100 tiles from the east side of the map and a 3-way BBH 150 tiles from the coal drop? 13:52:00 <V453000> but the second part of that game is quite unlikely to happen in all 13:52:15 <uliko> !archive 13:52:15 <PublicServer> uliko: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 13:52:18 <theholyduck> uliko, because people take chaos to build whatever they want :P 13:52:31 <V453000> uliko: that is some kind of wtf precision, but chaos = likely to NO ML, no system, total mess 13:52:32 <theholyduck> 181 was a fun game, but MAN it required a lot of rebuilding 13:52:35 <V453000> yes 13:52:37 <V453000> exactly 13:52:42 <planetmaker> that's not bad at all 13:52:46 <V453000> will you rebuild the whole map again? 13:52:52 <planetmaker> isn't it fun? 13:53:11 <V453000> it is 13:53:21 <V453000> but it gets to the point when you build from start 13:53:22 <planetmaker> where's the problem then? 13:53:22 <theholyduck> 181 had some awesome "constructs" 13:53:22 <theholyduck> aswell 13:53:30 <V453000> so it only adds the first part - the mess 13:53:37 <theholyduck> like the parts of the network where all you could see for the entire screen 13:53:38 <theholyduck> was tracks 13:53:43 *** lugo has joined #openttdcoop 13:54:01 <V453000> theholyduck: yes, 181 was amazing, but only because the effort that was put into it, and especially with the last games, the effort is lacking 13:54:02 <Ammler> uliko: you can play such games on prozone 13:54:18 <V453000> yes, both uliko and theholyduck could be on PZ already 13:54:42 <theholyduck> really? 13:54:46 <theholyduck> i build pretty badly at times 13:55:08 <V453000> well, could be worse :P 13:55:26 <theholyduck> admitedtly i've learned from my "encompasses the whole world" style junctions 13:55:32 <planetmaker> the problem is somewhat the lack of attendance on the PZ. 13:55:46 <planetmaker> But I'd not mind... it's there for just the taking 13:55:55 <planetmaker> Might be nice to have such game there again 13:55:55 <V453000> I think attendance is ok 13:56:07 <V453000> we just planned to have a chaos there 13:56:19 <V453000> and the recent game is very close to end 13:56:45 <V453000> and with adding these 2 guys it might be better too :P 13:56:52 <uliko> 181 looks awesome (other than being toyland) 13:57:00 <V453000> yes, 181 was awesome indeed 13:57:21 <V453000> too bad I dont have a save from the first stage, when archiving was proposed 13:57:42 <uliko> :) 13:57:45 <theholyduck> well yeah 13:57:48 <theholyduck> the game was in a pretty bad state 13:57:50 <theholyduck> at that moment 13:58:01 <V453000> worse than that :P 13:58:08 <theholyduck> uliko, literally most of the game was spent tracking down mystery jams 13:58:11 <theholyduck> and fixing obvious ones 13:58:40 <uliko> That's the fun part 13:58:51 <V453000> no 13:58:52 <V453000> it wasnt 13:58:53 <V453000> at all 13:59:01 <V453000> since most of it got just flattened in the end 13:59:12 <uliko> Well I don't know just how bad the game in question was since I didn't play it 13:59:12 <V453000> we just built like in a normal game 13:59:14 <V453000> from nothing 13:59:36 <V453000> uliko: yes :) you cant really judge from the results sometimes :) 13:59:49 <V453000> some games get mad just by someone playing it a lot, and putting a lot of effort 13:59:55 *** Whitelighter has quit IRC 14:00:52 <theholyduck> V453000, hnn 14:00:55 <theholyduck> one of my save games 14:00:58 <theholyduck> is titled jamming united 14:01:08 * theholyduck sees when i took it in 181 14:01:29 <V453000> dunno what state that would be :) 14:01:30 <theholyduck> relativly early it seems 14:01:38 <theholyduck> its from 2155 14:01:38 <V453000> but iirc you joined mainly in the 2nd part, right? 14:01:40 * theholyduck loads 14:01:47 <theholyduck> i played msot of the game 14:01:51 <V453000> kk 14:02:08 <theholyduck> just at 1k trains 14:02:28 <V453000> that is already "better" stage I think 14:02:36 <V453000> dont really remember but I think there was about 700 in the worst 14:02:41 <theholyduck> yeah 14:02:44 <theholyduck> theres not TOO many jams 14:02:45 <theholyduck> in this one 14:02:54 <theholyduck> theres like a million jam/slowdown signs 14:03:36 <theholyduck> oh and yeah 14:03:41 <theholyduck> sevral tracks with left hand drive 14:03:41 <uliko> Do upload it somewhere 14:03:53 <V453000> yes, all that can be eliminated just by playing on PZ 14:04:13 <V453000> since even there could be something made messy, but systematic 14:04:17 <V453000> which is important 14:04:45 <V453000> I like chaos, I love it, but ... it just isn't possible on PS in 90% cases 14:05:09 <V453000> and you can see that the latest games end just when some easy goal is reached 14:05:15 <V453000> because people don't last long enough 14:05:28 <V453000> so the first stage of game - mess - could easily kill the game 14:05:43 <V453000> !password anyway 14:05:43 <PublicServer> V453000: graced 14:05:52 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:05:52 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:07:08 <theholyduck> V453000, you have no faith i newbies! 14:07:16 <V453000> I do 14:07:24 <uliko> Well just split the 2 plans then? One to PS and one to PZ 14:07:26 <V453000> but I believe in what I see 14:07:35 <V453000> uliko: yes, that seems the best way to go 14:07:39 <V453000> to me, anyway 14:07:52 <V453000> I will propose it under the voting board, any support very welcome 14:08:18 <uliko> Last chaos I played I'm not sure was even in the hundreds and alot of people didn't like that one either :p 14:08:29 <theholyduck> http://www.filedropper.com/jammingunited28okt2155 uliko 14:09:04 <theholyduck> random upload site foudn on google 14:10:27 * theholyduck is a huge fan of v's bbh01 in 186 14:11:01 <theholyduck> its the one i labeled "the brainmelter" 14:11:13 <uliko> That save wasnt as bad as I thought 14:12:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006684: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006684.png 14:12:59 <V453000> maybe it isnt the true state of HELL 14:13:21 <uliko> !password 14:13:21 <PublicServer> uliko: muffed 14:13:35 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:13:35 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 14:13:35 <PublicServer> *** uliko joined the game 14:14:05 *** dlr365 has joined #openttdcoop 14:15:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> thank you :) 14:15:06 <PublicServer> <uliko> :) 14:15:37 <theholyduck> well yeah 14:15:44 <theholyduck> that save was not that bad 14:15:52 <theholyduck> its after atleast some of the issues were cleared up 14:16:34 <uliko> Is there a way to view all the archived games on one page? 14:16:37 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 14:17:31 <V453000> there was 14:17:38 <V453000> but I think that was disabled some time ago 14:17:42 <V453000> ... i gets a bit long :P 14:17:46 <V453000> it 14:18:03 <theholyduck> V453000, why is there no hall of fame games 14:18:04 <^Spike^> just a tiny bit :) 14:18:06 <theholyduck> since 121? 14:18:13 <theholyduck> shouldnt 180 or 181 be one? 14:18:20 <V453000> theholyduck: because nobody had the effort to put them there :P 14:18:27 <theholyduck> 180 was crazy 14:18:29 <^Spike^> ehm... 14:18:38 <^Spike^> V more: Nobody took the effort to nominate one 14:18:45 <V453000> even :) 14:18:59 <V453000> we even opened a thread on that iirc 14:19:04 <V453000> but ... well ... :D 14:19:09 <V453000> screw that :) 14:19:29 <uliko> Seems 142 was the last time I played a game here :) 14:19:44 <^Spike^> thread? where? 14:23:43 <V453000> theholyduck: 199 should be at least equal to 180 in terms of sanity level 14:24:01 <V453000> if my plan will be voted :D 14:24:01 <theholyduck> what IS 199? 14:24:10 <V453000> psg 199? 14:24:12 <theholyduck> well yes 14:24:15 <theholyduck> but what map will it be? 14:24:28 <theholyduck> and/or, whats your insane plan 14:24:32 <V453000> mars, square, I have the srnw submitted last game 14:24:49 <V453000> which should be the best working srnw we ever had so far 14:24:52 <uliko> You could use some kind of filtering system for the archive 14:25:16 <V453000> uliko: would need some tags on games I guess :) 14:25:47 <uliko> Well there's gametype, TL, size, players to filter from already 14:25:52 <KenjiE20> uliko: mulling it over 14:26:19 <V453000> anyway, I am off for a shower :P laters 14:26:32 <V453000> I will come in the evening and we will start building ... somehow :) 14:26:58 <uliko> :) 14:27:13 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 14:27:19 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has left the game (connection lost) 14:27:19 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 14:27:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006882: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006882.png 14:28:35 <PublicServer> *** uliko has left the game (leaving) 14:31:52 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 14:33:20 *** Alendo has joined #openttdcoop 14:33:25 <Alendo> !password 14:33:26 <PublicServer> Alendo: aghast 14:33:45 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:33:47 <PublicServer> *** Alendo joined the game 14:34:50 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 14:37:27 <PublicServer> *** Alendo has left the game (leaving) 14:38:46 *** dlr365 has quit IRC 14:45:17 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 15:25:07 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 15:30:45 *** kratt has joined #openttdcoop 15:30:55 <kratt> !password 15:30:56 <PublicServer> kratt: plains 15:31:14 <kratt> !dl win32 15:31:14 <PublicServer> kratt: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21089/openttd-trunk-r21089-windows-win32.zip 15:33:07 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:33:07 <PublicServer> *** kratt joined the game 15:42:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000577B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000577B.png 15:57:33 *** Firartix has quit IRC 16:06:47 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 16:22:20 <XeryusTC> !password 16:22:20 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: remake 16:22:24 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:22:24 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:22:26 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 16:27:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005C81: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00005C81.png 16:27:45 <XeryusTC> V declared winner btw 16:43:55 *** Mortomes|Work has quit IRC 16:54:28 <XeryusTC> @stage Building 16:54:29 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #197 (r21089) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | English only" 16:55:36 <Sylf> \o/ 16:56:40 *** bmarky has joined #openttdcoop 16:56:48 <bmarky> !password 16:56:48 <PublicServer> bmarky: bettor 16:56:59 <PublicServer> *** bmarky joined the game 16:57:01 <PublicServer> <bmarky> hey 16:57:05 <Sylf> I dont get see the chaos game, but some day maybe i will 16:57:46 <planetmaker> Sylf, join the ProZone ;-) 16:58:09 <PublicServer> <bmarky> building time? 16:58:46 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 16:59:05 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 17:08:40 *** Firartix has quit IRC 17:10:45 <PublicServer> *** bmarky has left the game (connection lost) 17:11:31 *** bmarky has left #openttdcoop 17:11:43 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 17:11:43 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:13:58 <XeryusTC> !playercount 17:13:58 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Number of players: 4 (2 spectators) 17:14:02 <XeryusTC> !players 17:14:05 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 214 is Spike, a spectator 17:14:05 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 227 (Orange) is kratt, in company 1 (Wraham Transport) 17:14:15 <XeryusTC> hmm 17:14:58 <kratt> yes 17:18:17 <XeryusTC> just wondering :P 17:20:19 <kratt> you want my vote :P? 17:21:12 <XeryusTC> voting ended 17:23:45 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 17:25:35 <kratt> kk 17:31:59 *** Jkrueger has joined #openttdcoop 17:32:22 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:32:22 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:32:24 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 17:32:32 <Jkrueger> !dl win64 17:32:32 <PublicServer> Jkrueger: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21089/openttd-trunk-r21089-windows-win64.zip 17:32:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> :o 17:32:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> close 17:34:14 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 17:35:10 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 17:35:10 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:35:34 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 17:42:22 *** ^Spike^ sets mode: -b+b *!~50de873f@* *!*50de873f@* 17:45:46 <Jkrueger> !password 17:45:46 <PublicServer> Jkrueger: consul 17:45:57 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:47:28 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:47:28 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:47:31 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 17:47:48 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 17:49:33 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 17:50:19 <PublicServer> *** Jkrueger joined the game 17:57:36 <PublicServer> *** Jkrueger has left the game (leaving) 17:57:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00011A6D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00011A6D.png 18:10:10 *** Jkrueger has quit IRC 18:13:57 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 18:28:07 <theholyduck> !password 18:28:07 <PublicServer> theholyduck: felled 18:28:44 *** pugi has quit IRC 18:29:06 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 18:29:09 <theholyduck> we started building? 18:29:10 <theholyduck> :P 18:29:11 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 18:30:02 <theholyduck> well, "started" 18:41:53 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 18:52:43 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has left the game (connection lost) 18:53:00 <PublicServer> *** kratt has left the game (leaving) 18:53:52 *** Keyboard_Warrior has joined #openttdcoop 18:57:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003566: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00003566.png 18:59:24 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has joined spectators 18:59:24 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:00:30 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 19:00:56 *** malta has joined #openttdcoop 19:01:14 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:01:14 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:01:16 <malta> evening :) 19:01:17 <PublicServer> *** maltadilate joined the game 19:01:24 <malta> whatnow 19:01:28 <PublicServer> *** maltadilate has changed his/her name to malta 19:06:43 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 19:10:02 *** Keyboard_Warrior has quit IRC 19:16:41 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 19:19:53 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 19:27:56 <V453000> hello there 19:27:58 <V453000> !password 19:27:58 <PublicServer> V453000: beater 19:29:30 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:30:03 <V453000> Minions! 19:30:05 <V453000> :) 19:30:48 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 19:32:55 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 19:33:39 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 19:33:54 <malta> hello hello :) 19:33:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 19:34:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets get some fun 19:34:11 <PublicServer> <malta> yessir! 19:34:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> ML first 19:34:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> just the lines 19:35:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> keep like ... 6 tiles between both directions at least 19:35:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> could be less for LL_RR 19:35:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> and follow landscape nicely :) 19:35:55 <PublicServer> <malta> minimal or no tf? 19:36:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> low rather 19:36:11 <PublicServer> <malta> righto :) 19:37:39 <PublicServer> <malta> damn, can't find my usb mouse, touchpad it is :) 19:37:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> ew :D 19:37:55 <PublicServer> <malta> tell me bout it.. 19:38:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> remember TL4 19:38:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> so also CL 19:38:07 <PublicServer> <malta> yup 19:39:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> try to go in valleys 19:39:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> instead of going straight across hills 19:40:10 <PublicServer> * malta whistles to self 19:40:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:41:02 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has joined company #1 19:42:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000744F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000744F.png 19:46:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats too far btw 19:46:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> see what I did 19:46:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> the LLL_RRR is quite close together, but it should be ok 19:47:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> north is ok 19:48:05 <PublicServer> <malta> i see 19:54:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> right 19:54:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the simpliest stuff done 19:54:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> now: 19:54:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> easiest: making SLHs 19:54:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> harder: west, east stations 19:55:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> even harder: north, south (refit stations) 19:55:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> hardest: BBHs 19:55:25 <PublicServer> <malta> i'm gonna go with... the least hardest? :) 19:55:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, lets pick some SLH spot 19:56:03 <PublicServer> <malta> on the stretch from bbh2 to S station? 19:56:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> malta: see the SLH 01 sign 19:56:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> that would be one of the SLHs I would like to see 19:56:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:56:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> going north 19:56:55 <PublicServer> <malta> yes? 19:56:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 19:57:05 <PublicServer> <malta> and it was right hand drive right? 19:57:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> always 19:57:33 <PublicServer> <malta> prio length? 19:57:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A596: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000A596.png 19:58:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> dunno ... 10-12 19:58:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> 10 should do safely 19:58:43 <PublicServer> <malta> check 19:59:22 <PublicServer> <malta> you didn't see anything o.O 19:59:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> what? :) 19:59:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 19:59:44 *** Alendo has quit IRC 20:00:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> malta: the maglev track shows about the border where the SLH should end 20:00:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> there will be another one going south behind it 20:00:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> just fyi :p 20:01:13 <PublicServer> <malta> stop pressuring me :P 20:01:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 20:01:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, the border might be a bit farther :P 20:05:25 *** M1n1M3 has joined #openttdcoop 20:06:40 <V453000> @gap 4 20:06:40 <Webster> V453000: For Trainlength of 4: <= 10 needs 2, 11 - 16 needs 3, 17 - 22 needs 4. 20:07:56 <M1n1M3> }{€££ö 20:08:02 <V453000> what the 20:08:05 <V453000> :D 20:08:06 <V453000> hi 20:08:48 <M1n1M3> !Seen 20:08:53 <M1n1M3> uh 20:08:54 <M1n1M3> oops 20:09:17 <M1n1M3> !LIST 20:09:31 <^Spike^> ehm... 20:09:33 <^Spike^> what are you trying 20:09:44 <^Spike^> next to some (i guess) xdcc commands 20:09:44 <M1n1M3> nothing -.- 20:10:05 <M1n1M3> CTCP actually 20:10:12 <^Spike^> i know it's a ctcp 20:10:22 <^Spike^> but commands like that in ctcp are usually used in xdcc channels 20:12:24 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 20:12:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000AF61: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000AF61.png 20:12:45 <^Spike^> cause personally don't really see the use of ctcping this channel :) 20:13:01 <M1n1M3> misclick 20:13:24 <DayDreamer1> !password 20:13:24 <PublicServer> DayDreamer1: retype 20:13:43 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 20:18:11 <M1n1M3> test 20:18:20 <PublicServer> <malta> v, could you take a looksy? :) 20:18:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> all wrong 20:18:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets see :p 20:18:38 <PublicServer> <malta> don't scare me like that o.O 20:18:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> um 20:18:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> you have only 1 half 20:19:05 <PublicServer> <malta> mid-term? :) 20:19:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw that split is bad because each thing goes elsewhere 20:19:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> mid-terms is ok 20:19:32 <PublicServer> <malta> will fix split :) 20:19:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:21:21 <PublicServer> <malta> fix't 20:21:27 <PublicServer> <malta> now off to second part! 20:21:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> much better :) 20:21:56 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 20:22:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> hy 20:25:23 *** who_cares has joined #openttdcoop 20:27:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A8A8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000A8A8.png 20:28:40 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 20:29:13 *** M1n1M3 has quit IRC 20:29:13 *** who_cares is now known as M1n1M3 20:29:24 <DayDreamer1> !password 20:29:24 <PublicServer> DayDreamer1: smudge 20:29:35 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 20:29:40 *** kei_ has quit IRC 20:30:08 *** kei_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:30:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> malta: ? 20:30:51 <PublicServer> <malta> i have no idea... 20:30:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> that thing goes north too 20:31:09 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 20:31:19 <PublicServer> <malta> how do you mean? 20:31:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 20:31:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> see for example !here 20:31:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> how would a train from !here 20:31:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> get to 20:31:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> get to !here 2 20:32:10 <PublicServer> <malta> wow, i am a bit stupid aren't i 20:32:17 <M1n1M3> xD 20:33:14 <PublicServer> <malta> back to the drawing board it is :) 20:37:55 *** bmarky has joined #openttdcoop 20:38:07 <bmarky> !password 20:38:07 <PublicServer> bmarky: smudge 20:38:53 <PublicServer> *** bmarky joined the game 20:38:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello there :) 20:38:58 <PublicServer> <bmarky> hey guys 20:42:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A7A5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000A7A5.png 20:43:08 <M1n1M3> screenshots? 20:43:11 <M1n1M3> when did that came? 20:44:12 <PublicServer> <bmarky> pain in the ass landscape 20:44:18 <PublicServer> <malta> tell me bout it :p 20:44:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> could be worse 20:44:50 <PublicServer> <malta> i need to check on dinner, bbiab 20:45:09 <PublicServer> <bmarky> bb 20:45:15 <PublicServer> *** bmarky has left the game (connection lost) 20:45:16 *** bmarky has quit IRC 20:47:20 <XeryusTC> M1n1M3: a long long time ago 20:47:43 *** M1n1M3 is now known as m1n1m3 20:54:18 <m1n1m3> umm 20:54:31 <m1n1m3> XeryusTC can u say "Hey M1n1" 20:55:01 <XeryusTC> m1n1m3: 20:55:07 <XeryusTC> that good enough for you? :P 20:55:21 <m1n1m3> hmm 20:55:27 <m1n1m3> no :/ 20:55:57 <m1n1m3> this new mirc is so confusing :S 20:56:30 <XeryusTC> heh 20:56:33 <XeryusTC> mirc sucks :P 20:56:44 <XeryusTC> but so does y-chat :s 20:57:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009D57: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009D57.png 20:57:40 <m1n1m3> i would make a heart sign (but my keyboard dosesnt have "<") mirc 20:58:21 <XeryusTC> lol 20:58:32 <XeryusTC> how come that your keyboard doesnt have a <? 20:58:37 <m1n1m3> dno 20:58:43 <m1n1m3> some weird ass layout 20:59:05 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 20:59:18 *** Djarshi has quit IRC 21:00:58 <m1n1m3> im going to test smth 21:01:01 <m1n1m3> not sure what it does 21:01:05 *** Twinkie has joined #openttdcoop 21:06:10 <Twinkie> Hello guys 21:06:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 21:06:15 <m1n1m3> m1n1m3, Yo mama's so ugly she could be the poster child for abortion/birth control! 21:07:47 <Twinkie> !password 21:07:47 <PublicServer> Twinkie: racier 21:11:19 <m1n1m3> px ʇı pɐǝɹ oʇ pɐǝɥ ɹnoʎ pǝuɹnʇ noʎ uǝɥʍ ʌ+ ɐ ǝɯɯıƃ 21:11:55 <m1n1m3> getting bored waiting for cod BO 21:12:09 <V453000> ... 21:12:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A7B4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000A7B4.png 21:13:23 <m1n1m3> are the screenshots randomly generated? 21:15:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> malta: !tip 21:15:18 <PublicServer> <malta> ooh 21:16:12 *** Twinkie has quit IRC 21:17:25 *** Twinkie has joined #openttdcoop 21:18:44 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 21:18:45 * m1n1m3 is AFK, Getting some Fresh Air 21:19:21 <m1n1m3> @quickstart 21:19:23 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 21:21:57 <uliko> !screen 21:21:58 <PublicServer> *** uliko made screenshot at 0000B85E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B85E.png 21:22:16 <uliko> Bah seems I missed the start again 21:22:18 <uliko> !password 21:22:18 <PublicServer> uliko: creepy 21:22:52 <PublicServer> *** uliko joined the game 21:23:07 <PublicServer> *** uliko has left the game (leaving) 21:23:54 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 21:27:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B95E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B95E.png 21:33:45 <m1n1m3> uh 21:33:47 <m1n1m3> what the hell 21:33:50 *** m1n1m3 is now known as Xappu 21:33:52 <Xappu> hello :D 21:35:00 *** planetmaker sets mode: +b *!*@*89-235-248-115.*.infonet.ee 21:35:05 <planetmaker> @kban Xappu 21:35:05 *** Webster sets mode: +b *!ident@89-235-248-115.saturn.infonet.ee 21:35:06 *** Xappu was kicked by Webster (planetmaker) 21:35:41 <XeryusTC> lol :') 21:35:51 <V453000> indeed 21:36:02 <SmatZ> ? 21:36:19 <planetmaker> SmatZ: read area51 21:36:22 <planetmaker> ban evasion 21:36:27 <SmatZ> the ban evaser? 21:36:29 <SmatZ> ok 21:36:30 <SmatZ> :) 21:36:44 <planetmaker> I'd not have noticed if he hadn't used his old nick again ;-) 21:36:52 <XeryusTC> me neither 21:36:53 <SmatZ> :) 21:37:46 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 21:41:06 <Twinkie> I am the new and I am confused how to get the version the server is useing? 21:41:15 <V453000> @quickstart 21:41:18 <V453000> there you go 21:41:19 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 21:42:08 <Twinkie> win64 21:42:16 <Twinkie> !win64 21:42:17 <V453000> ... 21:42:23 <V453000> read the quickstart 21:42:27 <XeryusTC> @tell Twinkie about !dl 21:42:29 <XeryusTC> !tell Twinkie about !dl 21:42:36 <XeryusTC> meh :( 21:42:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B663: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B663.png 21:43:09 <planetmaker> XeryusTC: I missed that also already :S 21:43:16 <planetmaker> @quickstart 21:43:17 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 21:43:22 <planetmaker> is a good help Twinkie 21:43:28 <planetmaker> and !dl 21:43:30 <planetmaker> !dl 21:43:30 <PublicServer> planetmaker: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 21:43:30 <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r21089 21:46:34 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 21:50:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> wow, a big tunnel bbh :o 21:51:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> .) 21:52:18 <dutchie> !password 21:52:18 <PublicServer> dutchie: fuzzed 21:52:25 <PublicServer> *** dutchie joined the game 21:52:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> oi dutchie 21:52:39 <PublicServer> <dutchie> hi 21:52:59 <PublicServer> <dutchie> just having a quick look to see how all this works then i am going to have to do some work :( 21:53:05 *** DayDreamer1 has quit IRC 21:53:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> you have rails and trains and trains fit on the rails, done ;-) 21:55:35 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 21:57:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> archive? 21:57:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> :P 21:57:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004F9B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00004F9B.png 21:57:56 <PublicServer> *** dutchie has left the game (leaving) 22:12:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000398F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000398F.png 22:14:12 <uliko> !password 22:14:12 <PublicServer> uliko: endure 22:14:23 <PublicServer> *** uliko joined the game 22:27:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001E891: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001E891.png 22:31:40 *** Firartix has quit IRC 22:35:34 <PublicServer> <malta> one question, if i just build another SLH in the opposite direction, won't join before split become a problem? 22:35:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> why 22:36:39 <PublicServer> <uliko> Split-before-join is only relevant in that one hub you're making 22:36:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes :) 22:36:47 <PublicServer> <uliko> If you consider 2 hubs of course it will be join-before-split 22:36:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> the whole network is join before split then 22:37:15 <PublicServer> <malta> of course, but it's so close to each other here it felt weird :$ 22:37:22 <PublicServer> <malta> forget i asked :) 22:37:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is good that you ask :) 22:38:19 <PublicServer> <malta> btw, fuck blue shells and grumble volcano (for those who play mario kart) 22:40:35 <PublicServer> <uliko> Im confused at the south paper/wood station 22:40:47 <PublicServer> <uliko> Trains drop wood, refit, pick paper, refit back to wood? 22:40:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> kind of 22:40:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> only those that are not full refit back to wood 22:41:05 <PublicServer> <uliko> So the paper doesnt go anywhere? 22:41:20 <PublicServer> <uliko> Oh, makes a bit more sense then 22:42:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> also notice the TL5 stations :p 22:42:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001C990: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001C990.png 22:43:12 <PublicServer> <uliko> Will the network still work at TL4 if we use long paper wagons? 22:43:18 <PublicServer> <uliko> s/TL4/CL4 22:43:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> ?? 22:43:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> wood wagons are as long as paper 22:43:48 <PublicServer> <uliko> Then I'm even more confused about your station length 5 comment 22:43:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> that was the point :p 22:44:20 <PublicServer> <uliko> Evil 22:44:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> arrr 22:47:18 <XeryusTC> V453000: how long will you be online for? 22:47:31 <V453000> not more than 1 hour I think 22:47:31 <V453000> why 22:47:47 <XeryusTC> because i'm going to whip up a new PZ map 22:47:57 <V453000> ok :) 22:48:37 <XeryusTC> first i'm making a post on a forum though 22:48:54 <XeryusTC> someone suggested treating pets with homeopathy :( 22:49:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> camels too? 22:49:54 <XeryusTC> ? 22:50:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 22:56:03 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:57:42 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001D59F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001D59F.png 23:02:15 <XeryusTC> !setdef 23:02:15 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 23:10:27 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 23:12:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000ADA8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000ADA8.png 23:14:44 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 23:15:44 *** Whitelighter has joined #openttdcoop 23:16:02 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:17:35 <PublicServer> *** uliko has left the game (leaving) 23:17:41 *** perk11 has quit IRC 23:25:08 <PublicServer> *** malta has left the game (connection lost) 23:25:10 *** malta has quit IRC 23:27:10 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 23:27:10 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:27:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001E790: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001E790.png 23:28:44 <V453000> !password 23:28:44 <PublicServer> V453000: fathom 23:28:47 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 23:28:59 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:28:59 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:28:59 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 23:29:32 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 23:29:32 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:32:36 *** Fuco has quit IRC 23:45:10 *** kratt has quit IRC 23:56:41 *** perk111 has quit IRC