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07:16:00  <V453000> hello :)
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09:33:02  <PublicServer> Ammler: Key sent to ODM
09:33:09  <Ammler> this :-P
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09:34:30  <PublicServer> Ammler: Key sent to dih
09:35:26  <dih> what on earth is that??
09:35:46  <Ammler> append that key to http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public
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10:32:53  <planetmaker> a very nifty comfort feature for 'power'-coopers ;-)
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13:31:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg?
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13:40:09  <theholyduck> omg what?
13:40:18  <theholyduck> !screen
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13:40:32  <theholyduck> the 6/6 split?
13:41:24  <V453000> chaos validity, rahter
13:42:20  <uliko> Oh my, close vote still
13:43:03  <V453000> we could move chaos to PZ, since it is barely manageable on PS anyway
13:44:09  <theholyduck> V453000, well sure,
13:44:14  <theholyduck> but the barely managable nature of it is fun
13:44:26  <uliko> ^
13:44:37  <V453000> barely manageable in terms of controlling how people fuck up, not in terms of building skills
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13:44:42  <V453000> in the end you demolish all of it anyway
13:44:54  <theholyduck> V453000, watching the thing grow is whats nice
13:45:00  <V453000> exactly
13:45:05  <theholyduck> and even in normal game, we end up demolishing a lot of stuff
13:45:06  <theholyduck> anyway
13:45:07  <uliko> It also looks better, with a set network layout all you get is long straight tracks. Chaos gives it a more fluid/awesome nature imo
13:45:09  <V453000> but when people fuck up so much that it cant grow, it is only for PZ
13:45:25  <V453000> yes, but in a normal game, it has a forced system
13:45:47  <V453000> uliko: why not have a normal game with allowed escape mechanisms?
13:46:06  <V453000> which is the only difference between having a fixed ML and chaos
13:46:12  <V453000> or ... the main one in the end
13:46:14  <uliko> Humm?
13:46:26  <V453000> well, what do you do when something fucks up in chaos
13:46:29  <V453000> you can make a bypass
13:46:34  <V453000> which you normally cant
13:46:40  <V453000> but still, there HAS to be some system
13:46:50  <V453000> some ML emerges anyway
13:46:54  <V453000> why cant that be planned
13:47:25  <uliko> I'm not saying it cant but then it's just a normal game?
13:47:36  <V453000> no
13:47:50  <V453000> define the difference between the start of normal game and chaos, besides it is L_R
13:47:55  <V453000> you need to have some structure
13:47:57  <V453000> everywhere
13:48:09  <V453000> and with chaos you can do mess around ... which can be allowed even normally
13:48:42  <V453000> the point is, if nobody knows where are we going, which is in chaos's case, there tends to be no system ... chaos
13:48:58  <uliko> Yeah I guess
13:49:11  <V453000> if the game aims to be at least a bit successful, we need some system
13:49:19  <uliko> But what I find most appealing is the fact that it starts as LR and not LLLRRR or something which means alot of building
13:49:22  <V453000> if not, lets join goal servers and noob our asses off
13:49:34  <planetmaker> that's too boring
13:49:38  <planetmaker> You win in no time
13:49:42  <V453000> then plan L_R with planned network, like in psg 190
13:50:20  <uliko> You need imagination to make a plan :p and some general idea of what's done before too
13:50:21  <V453000> planetmaker: no, but without system, we are getting closer to likely failing games
13:50:42  <theholyduck> well yeah, i'm all for structure with some of the freedoms that chaos allows
13:50:48  <V453000> yes
13:50:49  <theholyduck> and a game designed to be organic
13:50:53  <V453000> yes
13:50:55  <V453000> still ok
13:50:57  <uliko> What's failing? Going bankrupt? I do this for fun not to get 1k performance (which we never do anyway)
13:50:59  <V453000> but make at least a ML
13:51:01  <V453000> some system
13:51:13  <theholyduck> uliko, tons of jams
13:51:14  <theholyduck> is failing
13:51:17  <V453000> yes
13:51:34  <theholyduck> the network should operate smoothly at capacity without jams
13:51:44  <theholyduck> is more or less the goal
13:51:46  <V453000> why do you think 181 was called Jamming United? because the first part of the game totally failed ... then everything got completely rebuilt  ...
13:51:58  <uliko> Why is it doomed to jam all over the place just because the ML isn't placed 100 tiles from the east side of the map and a 3-way BBH 150 tiles from the coal drop?
13:52:00  <V453000> but the second part of that game is quite unlikely to happen in all
13:52:15  <uliko> !archive
13:52:15  <PublicServer> uliko: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive
13:52:18  <theholyduck> uliko, because people take chaos to build whatever they want :P
13:52:31  <V453000> uliko: that is some kind of wtf precision, but chaos = likely to NO ML, no system, total mess
13:52:32  <theholyduck> 181 was a fun game, but MAN it required a lot of rebuilding
13:52:35  <V453000> yes
13:52:37  <V453000> exactly
13:52:42  <planetmaker> that's not bad at all
13:52:46  <V453000> will you rebuild the whole map again?
13:52:52  <planetmaker> isn't it fun?
13:53:11  <V453000> it is
13:53:21  <V453000> but it gets to the point when you build from start
13:53:22  <planetmaker> where's the problem then?
13:53:22  <theholyduck> 181 had some awesome "constructs"
13:53:22  <theholyduck> aswell
13:53:30  <V453000> so it only adds the first part - the mess
13:53:37  <theholyduck> like the parts of the network where all you could see for the entire screen
13:53:38  <theholyduck> was tracks
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13:54:01  <V453000> theholyduck: yes, 181 was amazing, but only because the effort that was put into it, and especially with the last games, the effort is lacking
13:54:02  <Ammler> uliko: you can play such games on prozone
13:54:18  <V453000> yes, both uliko and theholyduck could be on PZ already
13:54:42  <theholyduck> really?
13:54:46  <theholyduck> i build pretty badly at times
13:55:08  <V453000> well, could be worse :P
13:55:26  <theholyduck> admitedtly i've learned from my "encompasses the whole world" style junctions
13:55:32  <planetmaker> the problem is somewhat the lack of attendance on the PZ.
13:55:46  <planetmaker> But I'd not mind... it's there for just the taking
13:55:55  <planetmaker> Might be nice to have such game there again
13:55:55  <V453000> I think attendance is ok
13:56:07  <V453000> we just planned to have a chaos there
13:56:19  <V453000> and the recent game is very close to end
13:56:45  <V453000> and with adding these 2 guys it might be better too :P
13:56:52  <uliko> 181 looks awesome (other than being toyland)
13:57:00  <V453000> yes, 181 was awesome indeed
13:57:21  <V453000> too bad I dont have a save from the first stage, when archiving was proposed
13:57:42  <uliko> :)
13:57:45  <theholyduck> well yeah
13:57:48  <theholyduck> the game was in a pretty bad state
13:57:50  <theholyduck> at that moment
13:58:01  <V453000> worse than that :P
13:58:08  <theholyduck> uliko, literally most of the game was spent tracking down mystery jams
13:58:11  <theholyduck> and fixing obvious ones
13:58:40  <uliko> That's the fun part
13:58:51  <V453000> no
13:58:52  <V453000> it wasnt
13:58:53  <V453000> at all
13:59:01  <V453000> since most of it got just flattened in the end
13:59:12  <uliko> Well I don't know just how bad the game in question was since I didn't play it
13:59:12  <V453000> we just built like in a normal game
13:59:14  <V453000> from nothing
13:59:36  <V453000> uliko: yes :) you cant really judge from the results sometimes :)
13:59:49  <V453000> some games get mad just by someone playing it a lot, and putting a lot of effort
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14:00:52  <theholyduck> V453000, hnn
14:00:55  <theholyduck> one of my save games
14:00:58  <theholyduck> is titled jamming united
14:01:08  * theholyduck sees when i took it in 181
14:01:29  <V453000> dunno what state that would be :)
14:01:30  <theholyduck> relativly early it seems
14:01:38  <theholyduck> its from 2155
14:01:38  <V453000> but iirc you joined mainly in the 2nd part, right?
14:01:40  * theholyduck loads
14:01:47  <theholyduck> i played msot of the game
14:01:51  <V453000> kk
14:02:08  <theholyduck> just at 1k trains
14:02:28  <V453000> that is already "better" stage I think
14:02:36  <V453000> dont really remember but I think there was about 700 in the worst
14:02:41  <theholyduck> yeah
14:02:44  <theholyduck> theres not TOO many jams
14:02:45  <theholyduck> in this one
14:02:54  <theholyduck> theres like a million jam/slowdown signs
14:03:36  <theholyduck> oh and yeah
14:03:41  <theholyduck> sevral tracks with left hand drive
14:03:41  <uliko> Do upload it somewhere
14:03:53  <V453000> yes, all that can be eliminated just by playing on PZ
14:04:13  <V453000> since even there could be something made messy, but systematic
14:04:17  <V453000> which is important
14:04:45  <V453000> I like chaos, I love it, but ... it just isn't possible on PS in 90% cases
14:05:09  <V453000> and you can see that the latest games end just when some easy goal is reached
14:05:15  <V453000> because people don't last long enough
14:05:28  <V453000> so the first stage of game - mess - could easily kill the game
14:05:43  <V453000> !password anyway
14:05:43  <PublicServer> V453000: graced
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14:07:08  <theholyduck> V453000, you have no faith i newbies!
14:07:16  <V453000> I do
14:07:24  <uliko> Well just split the 2 plans then? One to PS and one to PZ
14:07:26  <V453000> but I believe in what I see
14:07:35  <V453000> uliko: yes, that seems the best way to go
14:07:39  <V453000> to me, anyway
14:07:52  <V453000> I will propose it under the voting board, any support very welcome
14:08:18  <uliko> Last chaos I played I'm not sure was even in the hundreds and alot of people didn't like that one either :p
14:08:29  <theholyduck> http://www.filedropper.com/jammingunited28okt2155 uliko
14:09:04  <theholyduck> random upload site foudn on google
14:10:27  * theholyduck is a huge fan of v's bbh01 in 186
14:11:01  <theholyduck> its the one i labeled "the brainmelter"
14:11:13  <uliko> That save wasnt as bad as I thought
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14:12:59  <V453000> maybe it isnt the true state of HELL
14:13:21  <uliko> !password
14:13:21  <PublicServer> uliko: muffed
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14:15:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> thank you :)
14:15:06  <PublicServer> <uliko> :)
14:15:37  <theholyduck> well yeah
14:15:44  <theholyduck> that save was not that bad
14:15:52  <theholyduck> its after atleast some of the issues were cleared up
14:16:34  <uliko> Is there a way to view all the archived games on one page?
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14:17:31  <V453000> there was
14:17:38  <V453000> but I think that was disabled some time ago
14:17:42  <V453000> ... i gets a bit long :P
14:17:46  <V453000> it
14:18:03  <theholyduck> V453000, why is there no hall of fame games
14:18:04  <^Spike^> just a tiny bit :)
14:18:06  <theholyduck> since 121?
14:18:13  <theholyduck> shouldnt 180 or 181 be one?
14:18:20  <V453000> theholyduck: because nobody had the effort to put them there :P
14:18:27  <theholyduck> 180 was crazy
14:18:29  <^Spike^> ehm...
14:18:38  <^Spike^> V more: Nobody took the effort to nominate one
14:18:45  <V453000> even :)
14:18:59  <V453000> we even opened a thread on that iirc
14:19:04  <V453000> but ... well ... :D
14:19:09  <V453000> screw that :)
14:19:29  <uliko> Seems 142 was the last time I played a game here :)
14:19:44  <^Spike^> thread? where?
14:23:43  <V453000> theholyduck: 199 should be at least equal to 180 in terms of sanity level
14:24:01  <V453000> if my plan will be voted :D
14:24:01  <theholyduck> what IS 199?
14:24:10  <V453000> psg 199?
14:24:12  <theholyduck> well yes
14:24:15  <theholyduck> but what map will it be?
14:24:28  <theholyduck> and/or, whats your insane plan
14:24:32  <V453000> mars, square, I have the srnw submitted last game
14:24:49  <V453000> which should be the best working srnw we ever had so far
14:24:52  <uliko> You could use some kind of filtering system for the archive
14:25:16  <V453000> uliko: would need some tags on games I guess :)
14:25:47  <uliko> Well there's gametype, TL, size, players to filter from already
14:25:52  <KenjiE20> uliko: mulling it over
14:26:19  <V453000> anyway, I am off for a shower :P laters
14:26:32  <V453000> I will come in the evening and we will start building ... somehow :)
14:26:58  <uliko> :)
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14:33:26  <PublicServer> Alendo: aghast
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15:30:55  <kratt> !password
15:30:56  <PublicServer> kratt: plains
15:31:14  <kratt> !dl win32
15:31:14  <PublicServer> kratt: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21089/openttd-trunk-r21089-windows-win32.zip
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16:22:20  <XeryusTC> !password
16:22:20  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: remake
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16:27:45  <XeryusTC> V declared winner btw
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16:54:28  <XeryusTC> @stage Building
16:54:29  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #197 (r21089) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | English only"
16:55:36  <Sylf> \o/
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16:56:48  <bmarky> !password
16:56:48  <PublicServer> bmarky: bettor
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16:57:01  <PublicServer> <bmarky> hey
16:57:05  <Sylf> I dont get see the chaos game, but some day maybe i will
16:57:46  <planetmaker> Sylf, join the ProZone ;-)
16:58:09  <PublicServer> <bmarky> building time?
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17:13:58  <XeryusTC> !playercount
17:13:58  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Number of players: 4 (2 spectators)
17:14:02  <XeryusTC> !players
17:14:05  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 214 is Spike, a spectator
17:14:05  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 227 (Orange) is kratt, in company 1 (Wraham Transport)
17:14:15  <XeryusTC> hmm
17:14:58  <kratt> yes
17:18:17  <XeryusTC> just wondering :P
17:20:19  <kratt> you want my vote :P?
17:21:12  <XeryusTC> voting ended
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17:25:35  <kratt> kk
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17:32:32  <Jkrueger> !dl win64
17:32:32  <PublicServer> Jkrueger: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21089/openttd-trunk-r21089-windows-win64.zip
17:32:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> :o
17:32:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> close
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17:45:46  <Jkrueger> !password
17:45:46  <PublicServer> Jkrueger: consul
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18:28:07  <PublicServer> theholyduck: felled
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18:29:09  <theholyduck> we started building?
18:29:10  <theholyduck> :P
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18:30:02  <theholyduck> well, "started"
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19:01:16  <malta> evening :)
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19:01:24  <malta> whatnow
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19:27:56  <V453000> hello there
19:27:58  <V453000> !password
19:27:58  <PublicServer> V453000: beater
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19:30:03  <V453000> Minions!
19:30:05  <V453000> :)
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19:33:54  <malta> hello hello :)
19:33:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
19:34:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets get some fun
19:34:11  <PublicServer> <malta> yessir!
19:34:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> ML first
19:34:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> just the lines
19:35:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> keep like ... 6 tiles between both directions at least
19:35:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> could be less for LL_RR
19:35:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> and follow landscape nicely :)
19:35:55  <PublicServer> <malta> minimal or no tf?
19:36:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> low rather
19:36:11  <PublicServer> <malta> righto :)
19:37:39  <PublicServer> <malta> damn, can't find my usb mouse, touchpad it is :)
19:37:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> ew :D
19:37:55  <PublicServer> <malta> tell me bout it..
19:38:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> remember TL4
19:38:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> so also CL
19:38:07  <PublicServer> <malta> yup
19:39:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> try to go in valleys
19:39:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> instead of going straight across hills
19:40:10  <PublicServer> * malta whistles to self
19:40:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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19:46:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats too far btw
19:46:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> see what I did
19:46:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> the LLL_RRR is quite close together, but it should be ok
19:47:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> north is ok
19:48:05  <PublicServer> <malta> i see
19:54:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> right
19:54:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the simpliest stuff done
19:54:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> now:
19:54:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> easiest: making SLHs
19:54:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> harder: west, east stations
19:55:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> even harder: north, south (refit stations)
19:55:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> hardest: BBHs
19:55:25  <PublicServer> <malta> i'm gonna go with... the least hardest? :)
19:55:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, lets pick some SLH spot
19:56:03  <PublicServer> <malta> on the stretch from bbh2 to S station?
19:56:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> malta: see the SLH 01 sign
19:56:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> that would be one of the SLHs I would like to see
19:56:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
19:56:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> going north
19:56:55  <PublicServer> <malta> yes?
19:56:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
19:57:05  <PublicServer> <malta> and it was right hand drive right?
19:57:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> always
19:57:33  <PublicServer> <malta> prio length?
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19:58:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> dunno ... 10-12
19:58:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> 10 should do safely
19:58:43  <PublicServer> <malta> check
19:59:22  <PublicServer> <malta> you didn't see anything o.O
19:59:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> what? :)
19:59:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
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20:00:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> malta: the maglev track shows about the border where the SLH should end
20:00:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> there will be another one going south behind it
20:00:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> just fyi :p
20:01:13  <PublicServer> <malta> stop pressuring me :P
20:01:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
20:01:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, the border might be a bit farther :P
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20:06:40  <V453000> @gap 4
20:06:40  <Webster> V453000: For Trainlength of 4: <= 10 needs 2, 11 - 16 needs 3, 17 - 22 needs 4.
20:07:56  <M1n1M3> }{€££ö
20:08:02  <V453000> what the
20:08:05  <V453000> :D
20:08:06  <V453000> hi
20:08:48  <M1n1M3> !Seen
20:08:53  <M1n1M3> uh
20:08:54  <M1n1M3> oops
20:09:17  <M1n1M3> !LIST
20:09:31  <^Spike^> ehm...
20:09:33  <^Spike^> what are you trying
20:09:44  <^Spike^> next to some (i guess) xdcc commands
20:09:44  <M1n1M3> nothing -.-
20:10:05  <M1n1M3> CTCP actually
20:10:12  <^Spike^> i know it's a ctcp
20:10:22  <^Spike^> but commands like that in ctcp are usually used in xdcc channels
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20:12:45  <^Spike^> cause personally don't really see the use of ctcping this channel :)
20:13:01  <M1n1M3> misclick
20:13:24  <DayDreamer1> !password
20:13:24  <PublicServer> DayDreamer1: retype
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20:18:11  <M1n1M3> test
20:18:20  <PublicServer> <malta> v, could you take a looksy? :)
20:18:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> all wrong
20:18:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets see :p
20:18:38  <PublicServer> <malta> don't scare me like that o.O
20:18:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> um
20:18:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> you have only 1 half
20:19:05  <PublicServer> <malta> mid-term? :)
20:19:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw that split is bad because each thing goes elsewhere
20:19:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> mid-terms is ok
20:19:32  <PublicServer> <malta> will fix split :)
20:19:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
20:21:21  <PublicServer> <malta> fix't
20:21:27  <PublicServer> <malta> now off to second part!
20:21:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> much better :)
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20:22:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
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20:29:24  <DayDreamer1> !password
20:29:24  <PublicServer> DayDreamer1: smudge
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20:30:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> malta: ?
20:30:51  <PublicServer> <malta> i have no idea...
20:30:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> that thing goes north too
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20:31:19  <PublicServer> <malta> how do you mean?
20:31:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
20:31:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> see for example !here
20:31:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> how would a train from !here
20:31:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> get to
20:31:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> get to !here 2
20:32:10  <PublicServer> <malta> wow, i am a bit stupid aren't i
20:32:17  <M1n1M3> xD
20:33:14  <PublicServer> <malta> back to the drawing board it is :)
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20:38:07  <bmarky> !password
20:38:07  <PublicServer> bmarky: smudge
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20:38:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello there :)
20:38:58  <PublicServer> <bmarky> hey guys
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20:43:08  <M1n1M3> screenshots?
20:43:11  <M1n1M3> when did that came?
20:44:12  <PublicServer> <bmarky> pain in the ass landscape
20:44:18  <PublicServer> <malta> tell me bout it :p
20:44:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> could be worse
20:44:50  <PublicServer> <malta> i need to check on dinner, bbiab
20:45:09  <PublicServer> <bmarky> bb
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20:47:20  <XeryusTC> M1n1M3: a long long time ago
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20:54:18  <m1n1m3> umm
20:54:31  <m1n1m3> XeryusTC can u say "Hey M1n1"
20:55:01  <XeryusTC> m1n1m3:
20:55:07  <XeryusTC> that good enough for you? :P
20:55:21  <m1n1m3> hmm
20:55:27  <m1n1m3> no :/
20:55:57  <m1n1m3> this new mirc is so confusing :S
20:56:30  <XeryusTC> heh
20:56:33  <XeryusTC> mirc sucks :P
20:56:44  <XeryusTC> but so does y-chat :s
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20:57:40  <m1n1m3> i would make a heart sign (but my keyboard dosesnt have "<") mirc
20:58:21  <XeryusTC> lol
20:58:32  <XeryusTC> how come that your keyboard doesnt have a <?
20:58:37  <m1n1m3> dno
20:58:43  <m1n1m3> some weird ass layout
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21:00:58  <m1n1m3> im going to test smth
21:01:01  <m1n1m3> not sure what it does
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21:06:10  <Twinkie> Hello guys
21:06:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
21:06:15  <m1n1m3> m1n1m3, Yo mama's so ugly she could be the poster child for abortion/birth control!
21:07:47  <Twinkie> !password
21:07:47  <PublicServer> Twinkie: racier
21:11:19  <m1n1m3> px ʇı pɐǝɹ oʇ pɐǝɥ ɹnoʎ pǝuɹnʇ noʎ uǝɥʍ ʌ+ ɐ ǝɯɯıƃ
21:11:55  <m1n1m3> getting bored waiting for cod BO
21:12:09  <V453000> ...
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21:13:23  <m1n1m3> are the screenshots randomly generated?
21:15:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> malta: !tip
21:15:18  <PublicServer> <malta> ooh
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21:19:21  <m1n1m3> @quickstart
21:19:23  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
21:21:57  <uliko> !screen
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21:22:16  <uliko> Bah seems I missed the start again
21:22:18  <uliko> !password
21:22:18  <PublicServer> uliko: creepy
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21:33:45  <m1n1m3> uh
21:33:47  <m1n1m3> what the hell
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21:33:52  <Xappu> hello :D
21:35:00  *** planetmaker sets mode: +b *!*@*89-235-248-115.*.infonet.ee
21:35:05  <planetmaker> @kban Xappu
21:35:05  *** Webster sets mode: +b *!ident@89-235-248-115.saturn.infonet.ee
21:35:06  *** Xappu was kicked by Webster (planetmaker)
21:35:41  <XeryusTC> lol :')
21:35:51  <V453000> indeed
21:36:02  <SmatZ> ?
21:36:19  <planetmaker> SmatZ: read area51
21:36:22  <planetmaker> ban evasion
21:36:27  <SmatZ> the ban evaser?
21:36:29  <SmatZ> ok
21:36:30  <SmatZ> :)
21:36:44  <planetmaker> I'd not have noticed if he hadn't used his old nick again ;-)
21:36:52  <XeryusTC> me neither
21:36:53  <SmatZ> :)
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21:41:06  <Twinkie> I am the new and I am confused how to get the version the server is useing?
21:41:15  <V453000> @quickstart
21:41:18  <V453000> there you go
21:41:19  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
21:42:08  <Twinkie> win64
21:42:16  <Twinkie> !win64
21:42:17  <V453000> ...
21:42:23  <V453000> read the quickstart
21:42:27  <XeryusTC> @tell Twinkie about !dl
21:42:29  <XeryusTC> !tell Twinkie about !dl
21:42:36  <XeryusTC> meh :(
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21:43:09  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: I missed that also already :S
21:43:16  <planetmaker> @quickstart
21:43:17  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
21:43:22  <planetmaker> is a good help Twinkie
21:43:28  <planetmaker> and !dl
21:43:30  <planetmaker> !dl
21:43:30  <PublicServer> planetmaker: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x
21:43:30  <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r21089
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21:50:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> wow, a big tunnel bbh :o
21:51:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> .)
21:52:18  <dutchie> !password
21:52:18  <PublicServer> dutchie: fuzzed
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21:52:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> oi dutchie
21:52:39  <PublicServer> <dutchie> hi
21:52:59  <PublicServer> <dutchie> just having a quick look to see how all this works then i am going to have to do some work :(
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21:53:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> you have rails and trains and trains fit on the rails, done ;-)
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21:57:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> archive?
21:57:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
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22:14:12  <uliko> !password
22:14:12  <PublicServer> uliko: endure
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22:35:34  <PublicServer> <malta> one question, if i just build another SLH in the opposite direction, won't join before split become a problem?
22:35:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> why
22:36:39  <PublicServer> <uliko> Split-before-join is only relevant in that one hub you're making
22:36:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes :)
22:36:47  <PublicServer> <uliko> If you consider 2 hubs of course it will be join-before-split
22:36:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> the whole network is join before split then
22:37:15  <PublicServer> <malta> of course, but it's so close to each other here it felt weird :$
22:37:22  <PublicServer> <malta> forget i asked :)
22:37:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is good that you ask :)
22:38:19  <PublicServer> <malta> btw, fuck blue shells and grumble volcano (for those who play mario kart)
22:40:35  <PublicServer> <uliko> Im confused at the south paper/wood station
22:40:47  <PublicServer> <uliko> Trains drop wood, refit, pick paper, refit back to wood?
22:40:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> kind of
22:40:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> only those that are not full refit back to wood
22:41:05  <PublicServer> <uliko> So the paper doesnt go anywhere?
22:41:20  <PublicServer> <uliko> Oh, makes a bit more sense then
22:42:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> also notice the TL5 stations :p
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22:43:12  <PublicServer> <uliko> Will the network still work at TL4 if we use long paper wagons?
22:43:18  <PublicServer> <uliko> s/TL4/CL4
22:43:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> ??
22:43:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> wood wagons are as long as paper
22:43:48  <PublicServer> <uliko> Then I'm even more confused about your station length 5 comment
22:43:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> that was the point :p
22:44:20  <PublicServer> <uliko> Evil
22:44:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> arrr
22:47:18  <XeryusTC> V453000: how long will you be online for?
22:47:31  <V453000> not more than 1 hour I think
22:47:31  <V453000> why
22:47:47  <XeryusTC> because i'm going to whip up a new PZ map
22:47:57  <V453000> ok :)
22:48:37  <XeryusTC> first i'm making a post on a forum though
22:48:54  <XeryusTC> someone suggested treating pets with homeopathy  :(
22:49:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> camels too?
22:49:54  <XeryusTC> ?
22:50:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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23:02:15  <XeryusTC> !setdef
23:02:15  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
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23:28:44  <V453000> !password
23:28:44  <PublicServer> V453000: fathom
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