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Log for #openttdcoop on 29th November 2010:
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00:00:15  <dutchie> !password
00:00:15  <PublicServer> dutchie: carded
00:00:23  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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00:00:26  <PublicServer> *** dutchie joined the game
00:00:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi
00:00:47  <PublicServer> <dutchie> hi
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00:02:34  <avdg> hi
00:02:36  <avdg> gn
00:02:57  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, avdg,
00:04:15  <PublicServer> <dutchie> hmm
00:04:32  <PublicServer> <dutchie> at !blocking, would addition of some combo signals fix it?
00:05:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> There is nothing to fix, according to V, I think.
00:05:31  <PublicServer> <dutchie> oh
00:05:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's just a design thing.
00:06:31  <PublicServer> <dutchie> well it looks broken to my untrained eye
00:06:39  <PublicServer> <dutchie> i will have to ask v when he comes online
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00:09:47  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00035294: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00035294.png
00:13:00  <PublicServer> <dutchie> why is !halfbuilt not connected?
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00:13:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Because the third ring in 07 needs to be integrated in all the hubs,m first.
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00:15:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm now looking at thwe next hub, SLH 08
00:15:42  <PublicServer> <dutchie> i'm looking at MSH 07b
00:17:56  <PublicServer> <dutchie> any reason i can't go ahead and hook it up?
00:18:11  <PublicServer> <dutchie> (the msh)
00:18:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just leave the connection in from the MSH or frmo the ML unconnected.
00:19:02  <PublicServer> <dutchie> so up to the last segment?
00:19:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, like at SLH 01.
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00:24:47  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003E72A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003E72A.png
00:27:01  <PublicServer> <dutchie> is the signalling !here ok? the massive chain of combo signals seems wrong
00:27:07  <PublicServer> <dutchie> but i can't see a better way
00:27:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ine mo
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00:28:16  <PublicServer> <dutchie> it doesn't seem to be working particularly well
00:29:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Like that.
00:29:13  <PublicServer> <dutchie> ah, ok
00:29:19  <PublicServer> <dutchie> just wondered  about balancing
00:29:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Most will want to go to the original 2 lines.
00:29:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> If they want more balanced, let them work their magic.
00:31:13  <PublicServer> <dutchie> ooh, forgot the prio
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00:37:24  <PublicServer> <dutchie> hmm, can't work it out
00:37:33  <PublicServer> <dutchie> wait till someone with a clue comes alont
00:37:36  <PublicServer> <dutchie> along*
00:38:05  <PublicServer> *** dutchie has joined spectators
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00:38:13  <dutchie> time to do some work
00:38:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, clues are not going to help while paused.
00:38:53  <Xaroth> he calls himself dutchie with a brittish host, interesting
00:39:16  <dutchie> Xaroth: check the whois for a surname-related hint
00:39:33  <Xaroth> that explains more :P
00:39:47  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003E313: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003E313.png
00:40:20  <Mazur> Bah, those "Holland"s are found all over the world.  It says nothing.
00:40:43  <Xaroth> and he does django as well
00:40:54  <Xaroth> you, sir, have earnt yerself some +kudos.
00:40:54  <dutchie> well, i try
00:41:28  <Mazur> !players
00:41:31  <PublicServer> Mazur: Client 72 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (PSG198: Tropicinal)
00:41:31  <PublicServer> Mazur: Client 74 is dutchie, a spectator
00:42:05  <Mazur> Oh, avdg never joined.
00:42:09  <Mazur> Must have been my imagination.
00:42:46  <Mazur> Which happens to be the best nation in the world.
00:42:46  <Mazur> And out of this world.
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00:54:11  <V453000> !password
00:54:11  <PublicServer> V453000: repaid
00:54:31  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
00:54:31  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
00:54:32  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
00:54:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
00:54:57  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ohai.
00:56:29  <PublicServer> <dutchie>  v, why is !blocking not a problem?
00:56:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is blocking
00:56:52  <PublicServer> <dutchie> there is a sign
00:56:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
00:56:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is blocking
00:57:07  <PublicServer> <dutchie> there's quite a queue forming
00:57:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> wel, prios could be shorter
00:57:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> but whats the rest? :)
00:57:33  <PublicServer> <dutchie> oh, that's all part of the BBH
00:57:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm nort sure, but it might have been I that put that there erly in the game whne a long jam had formed  towards the join.
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01:07:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> lool look at map with vehicles
01:07:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> the ringzz :D
01:08:57  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You mean the mini map?
01:09:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> y
01:09:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Groovy,.
01:09:47  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003DAEA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003DAEA.png
01:10:16  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
01:10:16  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
01:10:23  <V453000> anyway, me off
01:10:27  <V453000> 2 a.m. again -.-
01:10:33  <V453000> gnignt
01:10:46  <V453000> *gnight ... you know what I mean :)
01:11:06  <Mazur> Damn, now I gotta figure this one alone.
01:11:09  <Mazur> Sleep well.
01:12:24  <Mazur> Hm, not that tricky, just T three tiles one down or so, and I'll get a level connection.
01:15:03  <Mazur> Well, still tricky, becaue of that curve.
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01:34:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, figured it.  Clean and neat.
01:35:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Calling all cars, calling all cars,  ...
01:38:51  <Mazur> No Sylf, no Mark, no whathisface....
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02:32:08  <PublicServer> *** dutchie has left the game (leaving)
02:33:55  <glevans2> <Mazur> No Sylf, no Mark, no whathisface.... <--- are you referring to me Mazur?   :P
02:34:08  <glevans2> !players
02:34:10  <PublicServer> glevans2: Client 72 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (PSG198: Tropicinal)
02:34:18  <glevans2> !password
02:34:18  <PublicServer> glevans2: punker
02:35:43  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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02:50:06  <PublicServer> *** glevans2 has left the game (connection lost)
02:50:08  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
02:50:42  <glevans2> !password
02:50:44  <PublicServer> glevans2: reined
02:51:03  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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02:51:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Huh, paused with two of us?
02:51:26  <PublicServer> *** glevans2 has joined company #1
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02:52:48  <PublicServer> <glevans2> game is already at my computers  limits... not sure how much help I will be...
02:53:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, you just helkped me finish this hubs connection.
02:53:37  <PublicServer> <glevans2> BBH 5-7 has several issues
02:53:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> My computer'
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02:54:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> is easy on everything, so I can implement any good ideas you have.
02:54:48  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003E2AC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003E2AC.png
02:54:55  <PublicServer> <glevans2> double check me, but at BBH 5-7, the middle lane of 7 does not make the inside of 5 does it?
02:55:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> A to B
02:56:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's only the outer ring opf 5, but it makes it to 5.
02:57:58  <PublicServer> <glevans2> 2 does not connect to anything but x
02:58:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Indeed.
02:58:59  <PublicServer> <glevans2> 3 hits x and y
02:59:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> y and z would be more appropriate.
02:59:35  <PublicServer> <glevans2> and the only line connected to z is y
03:01:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> To be honest, I'm not sure how to rebuild a V453000 hub while keeping traffic flowing.
03:01:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> In the space available, at that.
03:01:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> With my limited skills.
03:01:57  <PublicServer> <glevans2> especially when it occasionallybacks up a little
03:03:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> MSH 07a would ne a more feasible target for us to work on.
03:08:31  <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost)
03:08:33  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
03:08:41  <PublicServer> <glevans2> :(
03:09:19  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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03:09:24  <PublicServer> <glevans2> wb
03:09:48  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000256D7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000256D7.png
03:13:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ok, what connections do we have to make.  1. from 3rd line across to 3rd line. 2. from 3rd line to MS, 3. from MS to 3rd line.
03:16:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I made that extra exit signal to makr the spot after the waiting bay for the waiting bays.
03:19:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Actually, that just fits with the max gap length for only 2.
03:20:15  <PublicServer> <glevans2> are you sure?
03:20:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 11
03:20:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> @gap 5 2
03:20:43  <dutchie> @gap 5 2
03:20:43  <Webster> dutchie: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4.
03:21:10  <PublicServer> <glevans2> ty dutchie
03:21:15  <dutchie> np
03:22:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> So this would work for across.
03:22:38  <PublicServer> <glevans2> yes
03:23:01  <PublicServer> <glevans2> now to merge each side with 2 other lines...
03:24:48  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00028ED6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028ED6.png
03:26:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Would this do for the to Main Station commection?
03:27:59  <PublicServer> <glevans2> you will have a blocking issue every time a train tries for the inside line...
03:28:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, I wondered whether to do something about that.
03:28:56  <PublicServer> <glevans2> and you created a CL issue for the inner line to grab the first bridge
03:29:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Doesn't seem to bother the trains, though.
03:29:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But I suppose the first bridge could go.
03:32:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Now integrating the exit from the station is a real challenge.
03:32:52  <PublicServer> <glevans2> ouch, another CL issue on that entrance
03:33:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> On what I build?  I think not.
03:34:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's a Z.
03:34:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> What was there was a Z, not an issue.
03:35:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Silly woman.
03:35:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> ;-)
03:35:25  <PublicServer> <glevans2> wish they hadn't crossed the lines on the MSH
03:37:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That what you mean?
03:38:27  <PublicServer> <glevans2> diagonal bridges would be awesome right now
03:39:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But I don't see where we're going to draw the exit from the station from, now.  Except way back, unbalanced far off.
03:39:43  <PublicServer> <glevans2> even with minimal TF, it is going to be ugly
03:39:48  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00027EDA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00027EDA.png
03:40:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> ANd I'm not going to flatten that hill, V might, butI'm too new to try stunts like that.
03:41:09  <PublicServer> <glevans2> i'm just too lazy to flatten it..
03:41:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I don;t see that, lazy for mwe would mean flatten it.
03:42:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lazy short of not doing it at all.
03:43:54  <PublicServer> <glevans2> at this point, a connection with no CL issues is preferred..
03:44:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Indeed.
03:45:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But I'm getting sure it's not possible without CL issues.
03:45:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Serious ones.
03:46:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> So I'm tempted to leave it to others.
03:46:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just as I'll leave the two BBH's to others.
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03:50:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Uncunched bridges, though.
03:50:50  <PublicServer> <glevans2> not many choices
03:51:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just saying.
03:52:24  <PublicServer> <glevans2> if
03:52:28  <PublicServer> <glevans2> nvm
03:52:38  <PublicServer> <glevans2> how about bridges here
03:53:56  <PublicServer> <glevans2> was leaving room to try and clean up that other mmess
03:54:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, but no room for one bridge to signal.
03:54:37  <PublicServer> <glevans2> nope... redo
03:54:48  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002A6DA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A6DA.png
03:55:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> There.
03:55:18  <PublicServer> <glevans2> no, you were right
03:55:30  <PublicServer> <glevans2> i didn't have enough room
03:55:52  <PublicServer> <glevans2> we need 1 more tile
03:56:12  <PublicServer> <glevans2> unless
03:57:04  <PublicServer> <glevans2> nope, my other idea won't work either
03:58:04  <PublicServer> <glevans2> heck, we dont even need the other double bridge set
03:58:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I cam't help you there, as I have not the slightest idea of what you are thrying to achieve there.
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04:03:36  <PublicServer> <glevans2> ouch
04:03:51  <PublicServer> <glevans2> maybe cross over?
04:06:31  <PublicServer> <glevans2> actually better than I thought it would be...
04:08:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Connect the second there, with CL, or further along, without?
04:08:10  <PublicServer> <glevans2> without
04:08:13  <Jkrueger> !password
04:08:14  <PublicServer> Jkrueger: fluffs
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04:09:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hey, Jkrueger!
04:09:02  <PublicServer> <glevans2> hi Jkrueger
04:09:05  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> hello
04:09:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Second lifeline.
04:09:17  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> where you working?
04:09:35  <PublicServer> <glevans2> you actually have very good instincts Mazur...
04:09:49  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002A6D9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A6D9.png
04:10:08  <PublicServer> <glevans2> spelling issue
04:10:27  <PublicServer> <glevans2> commect?
04:10:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's not a spelling issue.
04:10:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's a typing issue,.
04:10:56  <PublicServer> <glevans2> it was
04:11:00  <PublicServer> <glevans2> haha
04:11:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Was not.
04:11:08  <PublicServer> <glevans2> i have a fat finger issue
04:11:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I have a never having learnwed to type and not to bothered about it issue.
04:12:09  <PublicServer> <glevans2> :P
04:13:22  <PublicServer> <glevans2> ok guys, had fun this evening...got to go....work in 8 hours, need sleep...have fun...
04:13:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Thanks for the help, and see you.
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04:14:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Now only 5-7 and 7-8 remain to do, and both are beyond my skills.
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04:17:37  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> hmm
04:17:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes?
04:17:50  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> 5-7 looks hard
04:18:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's what I thought.
04:18:14  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> line 'a' also needs to be connected to the others no?
04:18:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Line 1, you mean>
04:19:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> ?
04:19:19  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> "a" can only chose "z" and not any of 4,5,6
04:19:30  <Sylf> !password
04:19:31  <PublicServer> Sylf: raffle
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04:19:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sylp!
04:20:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, a was integrated by V, eventually, so I guesss it's well connected,.
04:21:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> We're looking at 5-7,. Sylf.
04:24:49  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> 3 -> 3 hubs make my brain hurt.
04:24:49  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00034C93: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00034C93.png
04:25:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Cue MOnmty Python.
04:25:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Gumby Brain Surgeons sketch.
04:26:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And you;'re right, it's doing my head in.
04:26:36  <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost)
04:27:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> ANd 7-8 is hardly better.
04:35:39  <Sylf> that darned system  :/
04:35:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> *hug*
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04:41:45  <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost)
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04:42:04  <Mazur> *ouch*
04:42:28  <Mazur> Fell off.
04:42:51  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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04:48:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You doing anything, Sylf?
04:49:33  <Sylf> not tonight.  i'm taking a break from this game for a day
04:49:48  <Sylf> i need to do laundry instead
04:50:11  <Jkrueger> i'll stay logged in for about another 30 mins
04:50:21  <Jkrueger> finishing up some uni work
04:50:30  <Jkrueger> then sleepy time
04:50:48  <Jkrueger> 19 days till end of term.
04:50:58  <Mazur> I'll jkust look around for urgant unjamming and then go reading.
04:51:16  <Mazur> I'm not feeeling sleepy.
04:52:37  <dutchie> Jkrueger: i win, only a week left for me
04:53:03  <Jkrueger> ^^
04:53:10  <Jkrueger> when do you go back?
04:53:30  <Mazur> I winner, I have no terms at all.
04:53:42  <dutchie> 13th of jan
04:54:39  <Jkrueger> i think we start back the 21th or so
04:54:49  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002A449: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A449.png
04:54:50  <Jkrueger> 20th*
04:54:58  <dutchie> hurrah for 8 week terms
04:55:28  <Jkrueger> my sister went to a school that did three 10 week terms per year
04:55:47  <Jkrueger> here we do 14 weeks of class and a week for finals
04:56:40  <hylje> derp
04:56:56  <Mazur> Herp the derp.
04:57:19  <hylje> Derpy Hooves


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