Log for #openttdcoop on 22nd February 2011:
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02:05:34  <Sylf> !password
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02:06:57  <Mazur> Ohai.
02:07:05  <PublicServer> <Sylf> heyo
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02:07:57  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Come in to vote, have you.
02:08:07  <PublicServer> <Sylf> dunno
02:08:11  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I can't really decide
02:09:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I extended pm's patch to display percentages in hte town directory, as well, today.
02:10:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And I entered the normal rail default engines in my database.
02:10:25  <PublicServer> <Sylf> someone's keep building roads around airports again...
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02:10:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, CS.
02:11:05  <PublicServer> <Sylf> heyo
02:11:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur>  crew back on duty.  ;-)
02:11:09  <CyberSoul> heyo Maz, Sylf
02:11:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not voted yet, either, CyberSoul.
02:13:03  <CyberSoul> nope, wondering how to do it
02:13:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I cleared BansteadAirprt, too.
02:13:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Voting?
02:13:41  <CyberSoul> yeah
02:13:57  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You put a sign stating your name beneath the planners name on the voting board.
02:14:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The bopard is signed, itself.
02:14:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> board
02:14:23  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> ah, i see it
02:15:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 6 plans, 7 votes, so far.
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02:15:41  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> yeah, several new plans I haven't seen too
02:16:43  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I think I'm gonna withhold my vote this time
02:17:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, and voting is already going so slow.
02:17:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But you must chose as you deem best.
02:18:39  <lych> hey guys
02:18:45  <PublicServer> <Sylf> heyo
02:18:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, lych.
02:19:32  <lych> yeah why not vote?
02:19:47  <lych> pick 1 and go!
02:19:53  <PublicServer> <Sylf> because I can't really decide
02:20:27  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I'll roll one die if I must, though
02:21:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I have it easier, I prefer all industries typers of games, so boosting a single industries is not soon going to be my vote.
02:21:10  <lych> lolz, i guess ur right, they arent that dissimilar for the most part
02:21:39  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I see 4 plans that I'm content with
02:22:02  <lych> hm maybe we can have a system where we allow multiple votes?
02:22:39  <Sylf> echo math.round(math.rand()*4);
02:22:50  <lych> lol
02:23:22  <Sylf> oh crap, I need assign numbers to each plan first
02:23:47  <CyberSoul> lol
02:23:55  <lych> thats a tough decision you have going there
02:24:03  <lych> i just went with gut feeling
02:24:22  <lych> (and of course, practice building hubs sounds fun)
02:25:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It is a valid method, though, when I'm undecided, I too sometimes use a randomizer, and then I know from the result, I know what to choose, because, if I don;t lkike the result, I found that out.
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02:26:31  <Sylf> grrr
02:27:14  <Sylf> !password
02:27:14  <PublicServer> Sylf: meaner
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02:28:50  <Sylf> I feel funny voting for my own plan, but that's what the random number said :p
02:29:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> :-)
02:29:21  <CyberSoul> :P
02:29:23  <lych> then... go for it! lol
02:29:55  <lych> thats something i noticed on the archives, i havent seen people voting their own plans
02:30:34  <Sylf> oh yeah... gotta go file a bug report
02:30:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's generally not done, because people consider it lame, or something.
02:30:38  <lych> but u shall be first
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02:30:51  <lych> well if u think u made a good plan, no reason why not
02:31:31  <lych> but if ur plan isnt all that great (like mine), then voting it up will be lame
02:32:22  <Sylf> oh, by the way, happy 22/2/11
02:32:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Is it your birthday, by any chance?
02:32:58  <Sylf> nope
02:33:10  <Sylf> not mine, at least
02:33:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Then the significance of the date eludes me.
02:34:01  <Sylf> just bunch of two's and one's
02:34:11  <Sylf> weaker version of 11/1/11 or 11/11/11
02:34:15  <lych> lol
02:34:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, ok.
02:34:28  <lych> kk 111111 coming up
02:34:41  <lych> i missed 101010 because i was studying
02:34:51  <lych> i rmb waking up the next day and like crap
02:34:52  <lych> lol
02:35:26  <Sylf> there was a recent frenzy about getting pregnant right about now
02:35:35  <Sylf> so your baby can have birthday of 11/11/11
02:36:12  <Mazur> I missed all of them, because I don't give an owls.
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02:50:25  <CyberSoul> well, i like two plans, but when I look again they are actually quite similar
02:57:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Then pick the one you like best of those two.
02:58:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That will make you enjoy the game more, as far as you can tell.
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03:01:37  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi
03:01:52  <CyberSoul> hello intexon
03:02:18  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I like how the voting is balanced :)
03:02:36  <lych> hey there
03:02:36  <PublicServer> <Intexon> usually everyone votes for the plan with most votes
03:02:49  <lych> !password
03:02:49  <PublicServer> lych: salami
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03:03:38  <lych> oh man my plan is at the bottom of the pack
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03:05:04  <CyberSoul> What had the early lead, vote wise?
03:05:27  <PublicServer> <Intexon> V453000's had led
03:05:33  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I think
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03:08:45  <CyberSoul> yeah, it looks fun too
03:09:03  <Intexon> it's kinda inverted version of mine :)
03:09:08  <Intexon> but yeah, would be fun
03:09:18  <Intexon> the hubs would be easier to build
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03:11:49  <lych> not necessarily... if its above snow line
03:11:59  <lych> wouldnt it be harder, coz of hills etc
03:12:40  <lych> anw does anyone know anything about building flipflops?
03:12:50  <lych> I tried to copy the design on the blogs
03:12:54  <Intexon> a little
03:13:04  <lych> and for the most part it works
03:13:12  <lych> but sometimes both signals go red
03:13:34  <lych> does that mean my not gate is too slow?
03:14:16  <Mazur> I'd have to see it to grok it.
03:14:24  <Intexon> from my experience the most common bugs are inappropriate trains in the not gate
03:14:31  <Intexon> too slow or too fast
03:14:49  <Intexon> but ask some expert like V or avdg
03:15:41  <lych> hm alright... in any case im using the lev1
03:16:10  <Intexon> it worked either with two slow ones or logic engine imo... not quite sure though
03:16:16  <Sylf> lych, are you building your flip-flop with one NOT gate or two?
03:16:20  <lych> two
03:16:31  <lych> come i might as well post a savegame
03:17:09  <Sylf> and how long are the trains in the ML?
03:17:20  <lych> 5tl
03:17:23  <lych>
03:18:07  <Sylf> where on the map, for example?
03:18:18  <lych> its signed
03:18:22  <lych> flipflop
03:18:25  <Sylf> is it the only one?
03:18:30  <lych> yae
03:18:34  <lych> i was just trying it out
03:18:41  <lych> (as u can see it serves no purpose)
03:18:46  <lych> im just wondering whats wrong
03:21:03  <Intexon> yeah I remember when I used to build 50/50 livestock/grain trains :)
03:21:20  <Sylf> ok, I'm starting to see some errors
03:21:21  <lych> lol, and no shared orders/grouping
03:21:31  <Intexon> nice game btw
03:21:31  <lych> so i cant replace them
03:21:34  <lych> haha tks
03:22:00  <lych> yeah so is that just because the gate trains arent good enough?
03:24:01  <Mazur> Funny plane.
03:24:05  <Mazur> Dinger 200.
03:24:21  <Mazur> V designed a fullproof not gate, recently.
03:24:36  <lych> oh wait, so these gates are error prone?
03:24:39  <Mazur> It's on the blog, I think.
03:25:02  <Mazur> They are not without potential failing, I inferred.
03:25:57  <lych>
03:26:01  <lych> thats where i got the design from
03:26:07  <lych> hm well i'll ask him about it
03:29:01  <Mazur> A recent blog.
03:29:23  <Mazur> He used them in PSG200.
03:29:42  <Intexon> some interesting stuff too:
03:29:43  <Intexon>
03:29:44  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Logic with logic trains (at
03:33:25  <Mazur>
03:33:27  <lych> tks for the links
03:33:36  <Mazur> It's in there.
03:33:49  <Mazur> green -> absolute red.
03:34:04  <Mazur> Single engine gate.
03:34:22  <Sylf> as
03:34:23  <Webster> Title: Download Dubourne Transport, 13th Aug 2024.sav from - send big files the easy way (at
03:34:24  <Sylf> how's that?
03:34:25  <Mazur> Can;t say I grok it, yet.
03:36:00  <Sylf> er, never mind the "as" part in the beginning
03:36:09  <lych> looks completely different?
03:36:21  <lych> but if it works its better
03:36:22  <lych> :P
03:36:42  <Sylf> yeah, I had to start it over so I could understand it
03:37:04  <Sylf> now, I can take this, then fix what you have...
03:37:42  <lych> well tbh i have no idea how the not gate works, i tried to build it just to see what it does
03:39:33  <Mazur> Ah, yes, I see, both red.
03:39:49  <Mazur> And I see why.
03:40:10  <Sylf>
03:40:11  <Webster> Title: Download Dubourne Transport, 14th Jan 2024.sav from - send big files the easy way (at
03:40:18  <Sylf> there, a version that's much closer to your original
03:40:36  <Mazur> No, I tell a lie, I don't.
03:41:05  <lych> well thats basically your design still, just with rails moved around lol
03:41:24  <lych> but granted it works better
03:42:43  <Intexon> was taking a look at the ABR09 savegame - my brain is starting to melt
03:42:49  <Intexon> time to go to bed :P
03:42:53  <Intexon> goodnight
03:43:03  <lych> cyaz
03:43:07  <Sylf> :p
03:43:07  <Mazur> Sleep well.
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03:43:17  <Mazur> Augurs 2025 a double red happens.
03:43:28  <Mazur> Or Juli.
03:43:34  <Mazur> Was not paying attention.
03:43:41  <lych> yeah something like that
03:44:24  <lych> i found that it happened earlier if i didnt put a signal gap right after the flipflop
03:45:10  <lych> but then even with such a huge gap it still happened
03:45:25  <Sylf> you can minimize even more chance of double-red by minimizing the signal gap
03:49:24  <lych> hm well, doesnt really matter anw
03:50:02  <lych> i dont foresee myself building logic gated stuff
03:50:09  <lych> its too hard
03:50:55  <Sylf> that's what you'd think at first
03:55:30  <lych> well 1 night of tinkering wasnt enough to figure it out... i'll prob need many more
03:55:56  <lych> but tks every1 for helping
03:56:11  <Sylf> my pleasure
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04:05:11  <Mazur> Mine as well.
04:05:30  <Mazur> I was very much bored.  :-)
04:05:52  <lych> lol yeah i wish building would start soon
04:05:55  <Mazur> Whihc usually doesn't happen to me.
04:06:13  <lych> btw sylf, those small loops with the double combo signals
04:06:21  <lych> dont do anything for your design?
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04:11:44  <Sylf> ?
04:13:22  <Sylf> I know I have 2 two-way combo signals per line
04:13:47  <Sylf> the ones on the main line are there to force twoway-eol
04:14:05  <Sylf> the one in the logic are the flip-flop memories
04:14:17  <lych> yeah im referring to the memories
04:14:23  <lych> i removed them, and it still works
04:14:50  <Sylf> hmmmm
04:15:06  <Sylf> I just made a memory-less flip flop?
04:15:21  <lych> i think the trains are the memories
04:15:30  <Sylf> yeah
04:17:32  <Sylf> I think it makes sense
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08:18:42  <V453000> !password
08:18:42  <PublicServer> V453000: farces
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08:19:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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09:07:38  <ppetak> !password
09:07:38  <PublicServer> ppetak: farces
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11:36:43  <ppetak> anyone here who is behind I have tried to register today, with google OpenID, but it resulted in error. What is worse that my email is now 'registered' but I cannot login with openid, nor register the email address normally...
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11:44:34  <Ammler> ppetak: the username was your whole openitd
11:45:01  <Ammler> actually, I have no clue if openid works
11:45:09  <ppetak> it is not :)
11:45:24  <ppetak> I got an error ... I can try to reproduce it.
11:45:39  <Ammler> couly you try login with usual credentials
11:45:50  <Ammler> username ppetak
11:46:57  <Ammler> hmm, username can not be changed
11:47:21  <ppetak> Catchable fatal error: Object of class WP_Error could not be converted to string in /var/www/vhosts/ on line 2773
11:47:48  <Ammler> deleted the user
11:47:56  <Ammler> please register without openid
11:47:57  <ppetak> ok, I will register as usual.
11:48:07  <ppetak> :) I just wanted to give it a try :)
11:48:21  <ppetak> maybe
11:48:29  <Ammler> well, it used to work quite a time back
11:48:54  <ppetak> maybe with google it is not working ..
11:50:57  <ppetak> OK, I'm in. Thanks
11:52:12  <Ammler> disabled openid, we need to investigate that issue...
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12:29:04  <ppetak> !password
12:29:04  <PublicServer> ppetak: farces
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14:06:48  <ppetak> hey builders! Lets vote on psg202, I'm eager to play :)
14:08:08  <Sylf> !password
14:08:08  <PublicServer> Sylf: quiets
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14:08:48  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hmm
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14:09:11  <PublicServer> <Sylf> we do have a winner, so I don't see any issue with starting now
14:11:01  <Mazur> I'll drop by for your second opinion.
14:11:09  <Sylf> additional votes might tie them, and delay the building :p
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14:13:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Like, for instance, V might vote?
14:14:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, I'm not burning my fingers on this one.
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14:41:22  <Mazur> Hi, perk
14:41:42  <Mazur> STAGE: Voting
14:42:52  <perk11> Mazur: hi
14:43:29  <Mazur> Temp ignore.
14:43:45  <Mazur> Too many CTCP.  ;-)
14:45:29  <Mazur> Unignored.
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15:44:33  <scrlk> !password
15:44:33  <PublicServer> scrlk: expend
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15:58:53  <V453000> !password
15:58:53  <PublicServer> V453000: relent
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17:20:56  <scrlk> !password
17:20:56  <PublicServer> scrlk: slakes
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17:58:05  <scrlk> !players
17:58:07  <PublicServer> scrlk: Client 247 is Sylf, a spectator
17:58:09  <scrlk> !password
17:58:09  <PublicServer> scrlk: slakes
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18:22:54  <TheDarkPassenger> !password
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19:19:12  <Vinnie> !dl win32
19:19:12  <PublicServer> Vinnie:
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19:20:08  <Vinnie> !password
19:20:08  <PublicServer> Vinnie: cupped
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19:20:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> newgame
19:20:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :D
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19:45:42  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000A948:
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21:12:59  <lych> !password
21:12:59  <PublicServer> lych: ablest
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21:15:21  <planetmaker> !dl autostart
21:15:21  <PublicServer> planetmaker:
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22:00:34  <ppetak> !password
22:00:34  <PublicServer> ppetak: ablest
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22:20:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> industries like V's plan? they spawn everywhere around it ;)
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23:04:14  <V453000> !password
23:04:14  <PublicServer> V453000: armies
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23:04:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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