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00:01:20 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 00:14:45 <PublicServer> *** CyberSoul has left the game (leaving) 00:26:55 *** Tionkje has quit IRC 00:40:34 *** TheDarkPassenger has joined #openttdcoop 00:41:13 *** TheDarkPassenger is now known as Guest531 00:58:40 *** pugi has quit IRC 01:11:19 *** Fuco has quit IRC 01:17:02 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 01:19:48 *** Chris_Booth__ has quit IRC 01:31:09 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:34:26 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 02:07:16 *** Redstone has joined #openttdcoop 02:19:22 *** Redstone has quit IRC 03:13:02 *** Guest531 has quit IRC 03:38:23 *** lych has quit IRC 03:42:44 <CyberSoul> !players 03:42:47 <PublicServer> CyberSoul: There are currently no clients connected to the server 04:00:56 <Guvnor> !players 04:00:59 <PublicServer> Guvnor: There are currently no clients connected to the server 04:01:03 <Guvnor> !password 04:01:03 <PublicServer> Guvnor: hazels 04:01:27 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 04:01:28 <PublicServer> *** Guvnor joined the game 04:02:32 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 04:02:32 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 04:02:33 <PublicServer> *** CyberSoul joined the game 04:02:42 <CyberSoul> heyo Guv 04:02:56 <Guvnor> yo!! 04:03:07 <Guvnor> just checking on the latest voting :P 04:03:21 <Guvnor> congratz!!! looks like it might be your plan :P 04:04:49 <CyberSoul> yes it does, was just thinking about getting ready to actually lay down where everything will go on the map 04:05:26 <Guvnor> very cool 04:05:42 <Guvnor> well, i am heading to bed...i will see you soon 04:05:50 <Guvnor> ciao 04:06:05 <CyberSoul> see you soon, hopefully we start building 04:06:09 <PublicServer> *** Guvnor has left the game (connection lost) 04:06:09 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 04:06:09 <CyberSoul> thats the fun part 04:06:25 <Guvnor> yep :) 04:06:58 <PublicServer> *** CyberSoul has left the game (leaving) 04:20:53 *** avdg has left #openttdcoop 04:36:37 *** Intexon has quit IRC 05:40:03 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 05:43:53 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 06:12:37 *** Firartix has quit IRC 06:50:40 <CyberSoul> @gap 6 06:50:40 <Webster> CyberSoul: For Trainlength of 6: <= 12 needs 2, 13 - 20 needs 3, 21 - 28 needs 4. 07:33:52 *** Chrill has joined #openttdcoop 07:42:29 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 08:07:29 *** dr_gonzo has joined #openttdcoop 08:09:33 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 08:13:39 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 09:13:58 *** Chrill has quit IRC 09:23:10 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 09:28:07 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 09:28:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 09:44:49 <Mazur> OMD. 09:45:58 <planetmaker> ODM is so very silent recently :-( 09:46:31 * planetmaker waves a heartily 'good morning' at all though :-) 10:00:31 <V453000> :p morning 10:01:55 <Mazur> Good moaning. 10:03:25 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:03:26 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 10:04:36 <Mazur> 2-6-0-4 in votes. No vote from V453000. 10:05:03 <V453000> since when do I vote? 10:05:21 <Mazur> Since when do you not? 10:05:25 <Mazur> :-D 10:05:39 <V453000> I do not vote in games where I have a plan 10:06:04 <V453000> when I see some other plans are good, I do not make plan or even scratch my own, and vote for the one 10:06:47 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 10:06:56 <Mazur> So, yo0ur not voting actualloy means: all other plan s are rubbish, vote mine. 10:07:01 <Mazur> Interesting. 10:07:04 <Mazur> :-) 10:07:27 <V453000> uhm, not entirely, but sort of 10:07:48 <V453000> guess one can defend his idea proposal 10:08:37 <V453000> !password 10:08:37 <PublicServer> V453000: flunky 10:09:05 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:09:05 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:09:08 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 10:09:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> especially since I am at least trying to do something special ;) 10:10:58 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:10:58 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:11:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, but some people like to do something familiar sometimes. Work within their capabilities, rather than just above them. 10:11:44 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And so postpone your latest invention for another game. 10:12:00 <V453000> do you really think I will make one plan twice? 10:12:13 <V453000> or based on the same idea 10:12:15 <V453000> no. 10:12:28 <Mazur> No, but you might propose an invention twice. 10:12:40 <V453000> why would I do that? 10:13:34 <Mazur> Why not? Just because people weren't eager for it first time round, doesn't mean they reject it totally. 10:14:30 <V453000> I cannot be bothered to please people to accept it 10:14:52 <V453000> either yes, or now 10:14:55 <V453000> or not 10:15:06 <Mazur> Well, please yourself. 10:15:40 <V453000> ..? 10:16:01 <Mazur> I cannot be bothered to play a challenging game with new ideas every single time. 10:16:11 <Mazur> I simply have not the stamina. 10:17:08 <V453000> sure, I can understand that 10:17:15 <Mazur> Since the map is never hte same, no game is the same, anyway. 10:18:40 <V453000> I did not say someone else cannot propose the idea I showed here sometime in the future, I just said I am not going to do it 10:18:49 <Mazur> I know. 10:19:18 <Mazur> It's less likely they remember it, though, than you remembering it. 10:20:24 <V453000> true 10:21:36 <Mazur> So if I'd have a new idea, I'd pitch it for 2 (maybe even three) games, when the maps were accommodating for it. 10:22:07 <Mazur> Depending on how good I think the idea is and initial reactions to it. 10:23:25 <Mazur> But that's me. I don't have a plethora of new ideas, like you do, anyway, so I probably care for each one more than you do. :-) 10:24:34 <V453000> I do care about each of them, but find it offending to suggest one multiple times 10:25:02 <V453000> unless it is somehow better than the previous version :) 10:25:09 <Mazur> :-) 10:28:00 <Mazur> Anyway, bought a couple of 2 Tb disks, now, which will arrive end of the week. :-) SO next weekend I will be r3eviving my desktop. 10:29:57 <V453000> hehe 10:30:09 <V453000> any news from Sylf by the way? :( 10:30:17 <V453000> @seen Sylf 10:30:17 <Webster> V453000: Sylf was last seen in #openttdcoop 4 days, 4 hours, 34 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <Sylf> !date 10:30:24 <Mazur> Nope, not seen him. 10:31:35 <Mazur> He was last on stable, the 10th. 10:32:05 <V453000> :| 10:32:26 <Mazur> Why, was anything the matter? 10:32:46 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 10:32:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 10:32:50 <Mazur> Or is he in Japan? 10:33:23 <V453000> he is from Japan 10:33:29 <Mazur> Oh. 10:33:41 <Mazur> Did not know or remember tgha 10:33:46 <Mazur> that. 10:34:44 <Mazur> He may simply have no power or no power to spare for games. 10:34:56 <V453000> I hope so 10:35:03 <V453000> or, I hope it is not worse 10:35:06 <Mazur> Or fallen hardware. 10:35:08 <Mazur> Yes. 10:35:28 <Mazur> Any idea where in Japan he's supposed to be? 10:37:47 <V453000> not at all 10:37:59 <planetmaker> uh... :S 10:38:05 <planetmaker> let's hope the best 10:38:16 <Mazur> Yes. 10:43:54 <SmatZ> population of Japan is ~130mil, and even if there were 13000 deads, it would still be just 1/10000 of population 10:44:12 <SmatZ> giving 99.99% chance he is fine :) 10:44:15 <planetmaker> well. 13k is the _confirmed_ chance 10:44:16 <SmatZ> (alive) 10:44:23 <planetmaker> "chance" 10:44:38 <SmatZ> true, the number changes often 10:44:45 <planetmaker> I'd not wonder if it rose significantly still when looking at how whole towns look like 10:45:13 <SmatZ> yeah :( 10:45:53 <SmatZ> still, even if there were 1mil dead, the chance he is alive is ~99% :) 10:46:09 <V453000> :p 10:47:48 <V453000> !password 10:47:48 <PublicServer> V453000: retort 10:48:01 <tycoondemon> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/13/world/asia/satellite-photos-japan-before-and-after-tsunami.html?hp 10:48:02 <Webster> Title: Satellite Photos - Japan Before and After Tsunami - Interactive Feature - NYTimes.com (at www.nytimes.com) 10:48:02 <SmatZ> hello V453000 :) 10:48:05 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (general error) 10:48:05 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:48:14 <SmatZ> V453000: "general error"? 10:48:16 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:48:20 <V453000> uhmf 10:48:20 <SmatZ> what were you doing? 10:48:34 <tycoondemon> !dl win64 10:48:34 <PublicServer> tycoondemon: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22230/openttd-trunk-r22230-windows-win64.zip 10:48:37 <V453000> map download just stops 10:48:45 <V453000> without error messages, nothing 10:49:21 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:49:21 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:49:21 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 10:52:33 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:52:34 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:58:29 *** Mazur has quit IRC 10:58:42 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 10:59:00 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 10:59:06 <Mazur> Brainfart. 11:05:47 <tycoondemon> !password 11:05:47 <PublicServer> tycoondemon: frolic 11:06:15 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:06:19 <PublicServer> <Player> whoah 11:08:00 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to tycoondemon 11:08:08 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> booom 11:11:29 <V453000> hi :) 11:25:06 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Junctionary_-_BBHs --- did CyberSoul just add there a hub that is actually not in our games? o_O 11:25:17 <V453000> rebuilding it offline, and adding it there 11:25:18 <V453000> wtf. 11:25:37 <Tray> !password 11:25:37 <PublicServer> Tray: coasts 11:25:47 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:25:50 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 11:34:58 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> hmmm 11:35:51 <Mazur> You think? 11:37:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000422A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000422A.png 11:40:48 <planetmaker> V453000, in my opinion that is ok 11:41:09 <planetmaker> The junctionary is supposed to be a junction dictionary and not a show-case of what we have exactly like that in one of our games 11:51:12 <PublicServer> *** tycoondemon has left the game (leaving) 11:53:16 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 11:56:52 <Tray> !password 11:56:52 <PublicServer> Tray: murals 11:57:12 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:57:15 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 11:58:49 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 12:02:54 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 12:02:54 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 12:04:19 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 12:05:35 <Mazur> Hey, a Ceebeebee. 12:05:43 <Chris_Booth> hi Mazur 12:07:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000080CC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000080CC.png 12:07:56 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 12:09:00 <Mazur> Though fpor bragging purposes, many would _prefer_ all examples to come from our own games, of course. 12:09:10 <Mazur> -p 12:09:44 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 12:11:52 *** iklucas has joined #openttdcoop 12:12:52 <iklucas> !password 12:12:52 <PublicServer> iklucas: champs 12:13:04 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:13:06 <PublicServer> *** iklucas joined the game 12:13:50 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 12:29:52 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 12:40:24 *** roboboy has quit IRC 12:53:56 *** Chris_Booth_ has joined #openttdcoop 12:59:09 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 12:59:22 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 13:09:02 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 13:09:19 <Ammler> !rcon magic_bulldozer 13:09:19 <PublicServer> Ammler: Magic bulldozer is disabled. 13:17:41 <SmatZ> [12:25:18] <V453000> rebuilding it offline, and adding it there <== :-D 13:18:26 <CyberSoul> Heyo, yes I posted a BBH to the junctionary that I wish had been there when I was first looking at the site a while ago 13:19:08 <CyberSoul> !password 13:19:08 <PublicServer> CyberSoul: lashes 13:19:27 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:19:28 <PublicServer> *** CyberSoul joined the game 13:20:11 <planetmaker> looks fine on first sight, CyberSoul :-) 13:20:33 <PublicServer> <iklucas> hmm its5-5 13:21:00 <CyberSoul> Almost all the hubs were 4way but a lot of the wiki talks about how modern hubs are all 3way 13:21:20 <planetmaker> that's right. much easier to build 13:21:31 <planetmaker> and more important to expand 13:21:40 <CyberSoul> But there was no example of a large 3way hub, which I had wanted to see 13:23:25 <CyberSoul> So I thought it would be good to show one 13:25:29 <planetmaker> yeah, that's quite fine with me. I'd not mind if it got updated even more thoroughly :-) 13:26:46 <CyberSoul> I hadn't built much with you guys yet so it came from when I modified 202 for more train capacity solo 13:28:07 <CyberSoul> I hope thats ok, if not then someone who built a good 3way should post that instead 13:31:24 <CyberSoul> Reading the logs, wow, I hope Sylf is ok 13:34:12 <planetmaker> CyberSoul, the problem usually is *someone* has to do / post / update it ;-) 13:36:05 <planetmaker> in my eyes it's highly welcome, if someone does so actually 13:36:36 <planetmaker> provided it presents current openttdcoop building standards ;-) 13:38:18 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 13:38:24 <PublicServer> *** iklucas has left the game (leaving) 13:41:46 <CyberSoul> not quite following the / post / update part? 13:42:35 *** iklucas has quit IRC 13:44:04 <planetmaker> CyberSoul, in other words: *someone* has to write that stuff. And I'm happy, if there is someone 13:44:41 <CyberSoul> In his user page, Sylf's location is Kansas, but he is originally from Nagoya, Japan 13:45:02 <planetmaker> nagoya is far off the quake affected area 13:46:11 <CyberSoul> Oh pm, yes, like I said, I posted it only because I had wanted to see something similar and everything said ancient and not much was 3 way 13:46:53 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 13:46:58 <planetmaker> Ok, and I'll be happy, if it is not the last contribution of yours to the wiki or blog ;-) 13:47:06 <CyberSoul> It is weird the only page edits are Mark and then me 13:47:16 <CyberSoul> How do you start a blog? 13:47:35 <CyberSoul> I couldn't find a button for that? 13:47:46 <planetmaker> you know blog.openttdcoop.org, do you? 13:47:47 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 13:47:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 13:48:05 <planetmaker> It's where you can write an article about *whatever*. For example a game review of the last psg or so 13:48:13 <planetmaker> you need to register there separately 13:48:35 <CyberSoul> Ah register there separately is the key I was missing 13:48:52 <planetmaker> yeah, unfortunately we don't have yet a unified sign-on 13:50:22 <CyberSoul> I had another question for you pm. How do patches get incorporated into openttd? I put in a vote on flyspray for a patch that adds hotkeys to the signal gui 13:51:09 <CyberSoul> I thinks its really helpful when doing the coop style heavy signal work 13:51:38 <planetmaker> well... I'm afraid that may not help much :-) Patches get incorporated into OpenTTD when a) a patch exists which fulfills the coding style criteria, b) fits the game and c) finds a dev sufficiently interested in it to actually review and commit it 13:51:57 <planetmaker> I think I saw the entry. 13:52:27 <planetmaker> the option to add hot keys to the signal gui sounds like a sensible idea to me 13:54:08 <planetmaker> a) can of course be substituted by "find a dev sufficiently interested in it to actually write that patch" ;-) 13:54:34 <planetmaker> the only thing which we're luckily never short of are ideas, though :-) 13:56:17 <CyberSoul> oh, I saw you name around the bug tracker, so I thought you would be good to ask :P 13:56:36 <planetmaker> no problem, it's ok 13:57:35 <CyberSoul> If I can help get that patch into an appropriate coding style, then let me know :) 14:00:06 <planetmaker> well. I haven't looked at it. What's the FS #? 14:01:25 <CyberSoul> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4527 14:09:12 <Ammler> he, do not use "good for coop players" as reason, devs rather don't include it then ;-) 14:10:07 <CyberSoul> I took it out and put it back in twice, I guess I guessed wrong in the end :) 14:10:53 <CyberSoul> changed back now :P 14:11:05 <planetmaker> we see every change made to the tracker :-P 14:11:35 <Ammler> we are a special kind of players, the main target are teh eyecandy SP players 14:12:05 <planetmaker> I'd not say 'main target'. But the game has to consider all kind of players 14:12:11 <CyberSoul> You are very "special" players 14:12:28 <Ammler> :-) 14:12:28 <planetmaker> As such a 'feature' which makes it worse for most players, is very unlikely to be included 14:12:37 <planetmaker> And yes, coop is 'special' ;-) 14:12:45 <CyberSoul> But still, signals are a huge part of train network building, even for regular people 14:13:00 <planetmaker> yes 14:13:46 <Ammler> yeah, just meant try to find reaons valid for everyone to promote a patch :-) 14:13:46 *** TroyMcClure has joined #openttdcoop 14:14:01 <TroyMcClure> !password 14:14:01 <PublicServer> TroyMcClure: herein 14:14:10 <Ammler> and "good for coop" isn't one 14:14:32 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:14:32 <PublicServer> *** Troy McClure joined the game 14:14:50 <planetmaker> ;-) Yes; even though I nearly exclusively play coop, I have to agree with that statement 14:15:04 <CyberSoul> True, thats why I took it back out now 14:20:00 <CyberSoul> heyo Troy, PSG is in voting stage 14:20:11 <PublicServer> <Troy McClure> I see 14:20:17 <PublicServer> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 14:20:17 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 14:20:27 <PublicServer> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators 14:20:27 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 14:22:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003029: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00003029.png 14:32:58 <CyberSoul> gtg for a while 14:33:26 <PublicServer> *** CyberSoul has left the game (leaving) 14:33:56 <planetmaker> enjoy 14:38:43 <Tray> !password 14:38:43 <PublicServer> Tray: gushed 14:38:59 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:39:02 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 14:42:25 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 14:49:59 <PublicServer> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 14:51:55 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 15:12:50 <V453000> I think that updating the wiki is highly welcome, and th junctionary just is outdated. But please tell me why to rebuild stuff from games and then put it there. That just does not feel very "cooperative" to me.. 15:21:10 <planetmaker> V453000, for a cleaner result maybe? 15:21:22 <planetmaker> IMHO it doesn't matter at all how the content was generated 15:21:38 <planetmaker> as long as it represents coop style and methods 15:22:06 <planetmaker> after all you present in the blog also ideas and screenies from private games. This is the same thing IMHO 15:22:41 <V453000> total hub demolition is not a cleaner result 15:23:05 <planetmaker> if the re-build hub is cleaner: yes. 15:23:18 <planetmaker> But imho it's pointless and totally uninteresting how the hub was created 15:23:32 <V453000> besides, I would understand our junctionary as snapshots of the best things, not something that someone created, not related to our games at all 15:23:46 <planetmaker> would you object without that piece of information? 15:23:55 <V453000> ? 15:24:07 <planetmaker> I understand the junctionary as an collection of different design ideas 15:24:45 <V453000> well, sure it should be, but why to show them from elsewhere than our games, who keeps ideas for his own games and does not share them anyway 15:27:56 *** iklucas has joined #openttdcoop 15:27:59 <iklucas> !pw 15:28:02 <iklucas> !password 15:28:02 <PublicServer> iklucas: gushed 15:28:11 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:28:11 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:28:13 <PublicServer> *** iklucas joined the game 15:28:17 <PublicServer> <iklucas> 5-5:( 15:28:36 <PublicServer> <iklucas> tray, are u more in for chris's idea or V453000? 15:28:59 <Tray> V's, I changed my opinion. 15:29:21 <PublicServer> <iklucas> hmm i actually vote V's because i didnt want cyber's^^ 15:29:55 <PublicServer> <iklucas> as i couldnt choose between chrris and V 15:33:01 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 15:33:01 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:33:13 <PublicServer> *** iklucas has enabled autopause mode. 15:33:23 <PublicServer> *** iklucas has paused the server. 15:33:27 <PublicServer> *** iklucas has enabled autopause mode. 15:33:32 <PublicServer> <iklucas> it cant go on with 1 player? 15:34:31 <TroyMcClure> no, there has to be 2 15:34:39 <TroyMcClure> otherwise it isn't coop, now is it :D 15:34:49 <iklucas> :P 15:35:09 <TroyMcClure> btw, it's still in voting stage 15:35:15 <TroyMcClure> what did you want to do? 15:36:06 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:36:06 <PublicServer> *** Troy McClure joined the game 15:36:46 <PublicServer> <iklucas> was like 15:36:52 <PublicServer> <iklucas> funking around with maglev:P 15:36:58 <PublicServer> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 15:36:58 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:37:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000064D2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000064D2.png 15:37:23 <PublicServer> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators 15:37:23 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:37:27 <PublicServer> <Troy McClure> nah, quit earlier 15:37:33 <PublicServer> <iklucas> XD 15:37:33 <PublicServer> <Troy McClure> it got boring 15:37:59 <PublicServer> <iklucas> oh u voted cyber:( 15:38:39 <PublicServer> <Troy McClure> something with a circle in it seems more exciting than just massive straight line 15:39:05 <PublicServer> <Troy McClure> Actually wanted to do CB's idea, but too little votes 15:39:11 <iklucas> yep thats why i voted V 15:39:19 <iklucas> little circles at junctions;) 15:39:53 <PublicServer> <Troy McClure> how'd you mean little circles at junctions? 15:40:21 <PublicServer> <iklucas> V's idea is making long trains and small trains on 1 track 15:40:30 *** Tray has quit IRC 15:40:35 <PublicServer> <iklucas> little circles at junctions to make the long trains queue up, 15:40:49 <PublicServer> <iklucas> like all these examples 15:40:59 <PublicServer> <iklucas> long trains bring from drop to the factory 15:41:11 <PublicServer> <iklucas> transfer to drop* 15:42:13 <PublicServer> <iklucas> its kinda cool that there will be junctions that make long trains go to left, but small trains go to right 15:42:31 <PublicServer> <Troy McClure> hmm 15:43:01 <V453000> thank you for paying attention and trying to understand the plan, iklucas, not many people bother with trying :) 15:43:16 <PublicServer> <Troy McClure> I resent that 15:43:42 <PublicServer> <iklucas> many people just see ur map, with drop stations on 1 line 15:43:45 <PublicServer> <iklucas> and think that's it 15:43:51 <PublicServer> <iklucas> so did i first time i saw it:P 15:44:33 <PublicServer> <iklucas> and actually ur system will be the biggest challenge, thats why i voted for it 15:45:11 <PublicServer> <Troy McClure> I;ll check later 15:45:13 <PublicServer> <iklucas> or did i misunderstand ur plan?:P 15:45:23 <PublicServer> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 15:46:01 <V453000> iklucas: well ... challenge ... you cannot say since we never seen it :p 15:46:26 <PublicServer> <iklucas> ;) 15:46:50 <PublicServer> *** iklucas has left the game (leaving) 15:47:13 <iklucas> im off;) will see result later 15:47:17 *** iklucas has quit IRC 15:52:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006ACF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006ACF.png 16:06:56 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 16:07:00 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop 16:08:52 <Vinnie_nl> !password 16:08:52 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: inaner 16:10:15 <CyberSoul> V453000: "well, sure it should be, but why to show them from elsewhere than our games, who keeps ideas for his own games and does not share them anyway" 16:10:37 <V453000> yes. 16:11:05 <CyberSoul> First, i fail to see how posting it to the junctionary is keeping it to myself 16:11:45 <CyberSoul> Second, us normal people can't unpause the game at will or increase the train limit to see what breaks 16:12:29 <V453000> well, every hub in the junctionary is from our games 16:12:35 <CyberSoul> So I actually started those modifications to see what I could do to improve PSG202 itself, and incorporated a lot of what I found out back there 16:12:39 <V453000> why do you build your own hub in SP and then add it 16:13:09 <V453000> that is what server is for, fix stuff with others, make it nice, then add it to the junctionary 16:14:30 <CyberSoul> Well I didn't rebuild it for the purpose of adding to the junctionary, its just that when it was done, I realized that it looked like a decent 3way, which was lacking in the junctionary 16:14:56 <V453000> why not to add any other 3way from the games 16:15:14 <V453000> adding there something what you did, not "we" did on the server is not "our junctionary" 16:15:14 <CyberSoul> I remembered wanting to see an example like it when I was first coming to the junctionary, and so I posted it 16:15:21 <CyberSoul> Well, because I didn 16:16:10 <CyberSoul> Should I have posted someone elses junction to the junctionary then? That seems wierd also? 16:16:29 <V453000> sure, why not 16:16:47 <V453000> it is not "yours". it is "coop"!!! 16:16:55 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 16:17:19 <V453000> same as the junctionary 16:17:35 <CyberSoul> coop much less likely to be mine than to be yours V 16:18:00 <CyberSoul> And I thought it was just a directory of good junctions 16:18:18 <V453000> sure, add examples, it is great and greatly appreciated and I like it, but build the hub in the game first, build it with others or let them cooperate on it, and then add it, seems the natural way for me for a "coop junctionary" 16:18:38 <V453000> yes, a directory for good junctions. From our games 16:18:52 <V453000> good/somehow interesting/whatever 16:19:01 <CyberSoul> Now that you mention it, it does say "we have developed during our games" 16:19:18 <CyberSoul> So I can remove it 16:19:54 <V453000> add some hub of yours, add some more from other games, add anything there :) it is nice, but just please it being "ours" 16:20:17 <V453000> if you find some nice way how to build hubs, have your SP game special, or something like that, sure do show it on the blog 16:21:45 <CyberSoul> I couldn't figure out how to use the blog until planetmaker helped me earlier *doh* 16:22:40 <V453000> :) 16:23:12 <CyberSoul> So should I remove it then? And wait for a good example from a game? 16:23:45 <V453000> preferably. :) 16:23:59 <V453000> well, wait ... you can also look to the archives for it 16:24:14 <V453000> or build it in some future game :) 16:26:18 <planetmaker> ^ ;-) 16:27:03 <CyberSoul> Someone should post a good 3 lane plus three way there, as the junctionary doesn't really help newbies with modern BBHs at the moment 16:28:14 * planetmaker chooses a random direction to point to - and behold, it turns out to be directly pointing at CyberSoul ;-) 16:28:21 <V453000> the archive contains plenty :) 16:28:42 <V453000> analyze hubs there, and eventually add them would be my suggestion :) 16:31:38 <CyberSoul> okay, it should be removed now 16:33:51 *** `Fuco` has joined #openttdcoop 16:35:14 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 16:35:41 <CyberSoul> Plus I figured out how to make the 4+3->3 join cleaner now, so it will be better next time anyway :P 16:35:58 *** lugo has quit IRC 16:36:11 <V453000> :) 16:38:28 *** Fuco has quit 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