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fonsinchen has quit IRC 06:57:46 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 07:16:32 <V453000> !password 07:16:32 <PublicServer> V453000: strays 07:16:47 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:16:50 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 07:23:24 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 07:25:38 *** Tray has quit IRC 07:37:15 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 07:37:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 07:58:33 <Mazur> morning, 08:13:02 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 08:19:08 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 08:28:12 *** w4ldf33 has joined #openttdcoop 08:28:18 <w4ldf33> !dl lin 08:28:18 <PublicServer> w4ldf33: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22375/openttd-trunk-r22375-linux-generic-i686.tar.xz 08:28:25 *** w4ldf33 has left #openttdcoop 09:07:29 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 09:39:29 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 09:44:27 *** pugi has quit IRC 09:49:08 <PublicServer> *** brundlefly joined the game 09:49:12 <PublicServer> *** Game still 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iofudshyb 20:14:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> . 20:20:35 *** Maxpm has joined #openttdcoop 20:20:44 <Maxpm> Why is inline balancing a bad thing? 20:21:11 <V453000> what do you mean by inline balancing 20:21:36 <V453000> not merging any lines, just swapping trains between lines? 20:21:44 <Chris_Booth> balancing lines that are next to eachother 20:22:06 <Chris_Booth> but if they are parrallel and are not in a junction 20:22:15 <Chris_Booth> why would you balance them? 20:22:21 <Chris_Booth> you are just stoping trains pointlessly 20:22:45 <V453000> that pretty much answers it I suppose :) 20:22:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Everyone has not been around, today. Nor anyone. 20:23:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 20:23:22 <Chris_Booth> @coop stats 20:23:22 <Webster> Chris_Booth: (coop <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined) 20:23:32 <Chris_Booth> @coop tats 20:23:32 <Webster> Chris_Booth: (coop <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined) 20:23:35 <Chris_Booth> @coopstats 20:23:36 <Webster> #openttdcoop @ OFTC stats by Webster - http://webster.openttdcoop.org/stats.html 20:23:40 <Maxpm> Well, assuming breakdowns do happen (I know they don't on your servers, but in my games they certainly do), wouldn't you want to give trains the option of bypassing others? 20:24:16 <V453000> breakdowns are absolutely unacceptable to even think about from my perspective 20:24:57 <V453000> if you use breakdowns, then probably 99% of coop style is useless for you 20:25:05 <Maxpm> Hmm. 20:25:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004F27: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00004F27.png 20:25:47 <Chris_Booth> well you can't build large MLs that flow well 20:26:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> or at all ;) 20:26:02 <Chris_Booth> you need lots fo service centre with access driectly to the ML 20:26:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but they will still break down .. :| 20:26:28 <Chris_Booth> you will have to make use of the Evil X 20:26:50 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And weven those would cause massive delays. 20:26:55 <Chris_Booth> if breakdowns where less harsh I would use them 20:27:13 <Chris_Booth> like 1 train in 1000 would break down a year 20:27:36 <Maxpm> Well, in that case, does anyone know any good balanced junction designs for a LLXRR ML, where the X can be any gap? 20:27:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> X? 20:28:04 <Chris_Booth> LL_N_RR 20:28:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway, I think our @@archive knows about some junctions 20:28:05 <Webster> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive 20:28:11 <V453000> ah 20:28:36 <Chris_Booth> Maxpm I know lots of LL_RR junctions 20:28:50 <Chris_Booth> depends if you want the 3 4 5 or 6 ways 20:29:27 <Maxpm> Just 3 or 4, really. I figure that even if I only know a 3-way junction I'll be able to emulate a 4-way junction with a little extra space. 20:29:58 <V453000> 3ways are enough 20:30:04 <V453000> 4ways arent effective 20:30:45 <Chris_Booth> 4ways are bigger than 2x3ways 20:30:49 <Chris_Booth> unless build well 20:30:55 <Maxpm> Mmh. 20:31:46 <Chris_Booth> Maxpm: http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2009/05/31/big-hubs-in-a-nutshell-finding-a-universal-hub-design/ 20:31:53 <Chris_Booth> that will help with big hubs 20:33:42 <Maxpm> Thanks! 20:34:43 <Chris_Booth> V453000 when was the last PSG with a 4way hub? 20:34:59 <V453000> 195 20:35:01 <V453000> roundabout 20:35:04 <Maxpm> Why should you merge as late as possible? Wouldn't merging early give the junction a greater capacity? 20:35:08 <V453000> 173 = normal 4ways 20:35:24 <Chris_Booth> Maxpm so you don't jam the hub 20:35:34 <V453000> anyway, cya later 20:35:39 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:35:40 <Chris_Booth> if you merge less than 1 train length + 2 tiles 20:35:41 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:35:51 <Chris_Booth> you don't even have enough room to store 1 trains 20:35:53 <Chris_Booth> bb V453000 20:37:22 <Maxpm> Hmm. 20:37:29 <Maxpm> Looks like I've got a lot to learn. >_< 20:40:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00031651: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00031651.png 20:46:04 <Maxpm> I rather like the "spiral hub." It's elegant. 20:56:13 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 20:58:30 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 20:58:46 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 20:59:02 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 20:59:14 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 21:08:32 <Maxpm> So, how is everyone? 21:12:09 <mm> Maxpm: did you see Lawsonuw's comment in the spiral article? 21:12:18 <mm> i'm going to have to try that 21:12:49 <Maxpm> I did not. Checking now. 21:13:50 <Maxpm> Interesting. 21:34:56 *** Maxpm has quit IRC 21:41:06 *** Twerkhoven[L] has quit IRC 21:46:00 *** Maxpm has joined #openttdcoop 21:46:28 *** Tray has quit IRC 21:48:06 *** Maxpm has quit IRC 21:53:28 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:58:34 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 22:04:01 *** perk11 has quit IRC 22:12:39 *** Intexon_ has joined #openttdcoop 22:18:34 *** Intexon has quit IRC 22:18:46 *** Intexon^ has joined #openttdcoop 22:18:48 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 22:21:00 *** Intexon_ has quit IRC 22:35:51 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 22:36:59 *** Fuco has quit IRC 22:46:59 *** perk111 has quit IRC 22:47:49 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 23:04:51 *** perk11 has quit IRC 23:19:14 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC