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:D 13:56:19 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yea 13:57:01 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i kinda did not like my old name and people here know me as Absolutis... 13:57:11 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i still use my other nick sometimes 13:58:33 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmm, i 'll leave for now 13:58:39 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i'll come back later today 13:58:46 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has left the game (leaving) 14:25:48 *** amitp has joined #openttdcoop 14:48:44 *** Dude has joined #openttdcoop 14:48:59 *** Phil_ has joined #openttdcoop 14:49:09 <V453000> hi Phil :p 14:49:13 <V453000> now I can navigate you 14:49:30 <Phil_> hey there 14:49:31 <Phil_> :) 14:49:39 <V453000> first off, make sure you read the @@quickstart - that will help you not only join the game but also to know what is going on 14:49:40 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 14:50:04 <Phil_> will read it now 14:50:22 <V453000> feel free to ask for help, but it should all be there 14:53:48 <Phil_> !password 14:53:48 <PublicServer> Phil_: salmon 14:54:41 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:54:42 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:56:18 <Phil_> thanks again 14:56:28 <Phil_> time ti watch and learn :) 14:57:49 <Phil_> ah version mismatch 14:58:06 <Phil_> is it possible to run 2 versions? 14:58:35 <TWerkhoven> !dl 14:58:36 <PublicServer> TWerkhoven: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 14:58:36 <PublicServer> TWerkhoven: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22466 14:58:37 <TWerkhoven> ^ 14:59:07 <Phil_> thx :) 14:59:07 <TWerkhoven> just unzip that somewhere and you can run the relevant nightly from there, whilst retaining your stable for other servers 15:00:16 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 15:11:28 <Phil_> i'm mising some new grfs, where do i find them? 15:11:57 <Phil_> I've downloaded the new grfs packs and installed it 15:13:37 <TWerkhoven> the grf pack on openttdcoop.org? 15:13:43 <Absolutis> i think the ottdcoop grf pack might help 15:14:09 <Phil_> im missing new depots, new bridiges, dutch stations and catenary, conta\iner frieght station, planeset and us trains 15:14:36 <TWerkhoven> everything else should be available through the ingame content system 15:15:24 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:15:27 <PublicServer> *** Phil joined the game 15:15:40 <Phil_> working now thx :) 15:19:39 <Mazur> Have you actually read @quickstart? 15:19:59 <Phil_> yeah i have 15:20:43 <Phil_> oh hey 15:20:50 <Phil_> ur the ghost 15:20:51 <Absolutis> !password 15:20:51 <PublicServer> Absolutis: stowed 15:21:07 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:21:09 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis joined the game 15:21:35 <Mazur> Yes, V453000 killed me for failing to adhere to some ruile, I forget which. 15:21:43 <TWerkhoven> lol 15:21:48 * Mazur is haunting the channel and the server now. 15:21:51 <PublicServer> <Phil> lol 15:26:28 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has joined spectators 15:32:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009BA7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009BA7.png 15:35:11 *** Intexon has quit IRC 15:53:14 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 15:53:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 15:53:22 <mfb-> hi 15:53:32 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> eyy 15:53:46 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:53:48 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 15:54:14 <V453000> hi 15:55:56 <V453000> !password 15:55:56 <PublicServer> V453000: rabbis 15:56:23 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 15:56:28 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:56:28 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:56:31 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:56:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :p 15:56:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> ~20x20 at the saw mill looks right 15:56:53 <Chris_Booth> Hi 15:56:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> yep 15:56:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe 18x18 15:57:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> but I think that if it will not be deep in the desert, it will be larger area 15:57:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> like on the coeast 15:57:18 <Chris_Booth> Has building started? 15:57:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 15:57:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> but this is getting long 15:57:57 <Chris_Booth> It is still only 2 plans? 15:58:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 15:58:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> who needs more? 15:58:41 <Chris_Booth> Tbh just say your plan wins and 15:58:46 <Chris_Booth> Remove mine 15:59:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> voting board with just one plan? :p 15:59:24 <V453000> I will leave that decision to mfb as there already have been some issues with people disliking me announcing myself winner 16:00:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> done 16:00:04 <Chris_Booth> I like your plan 16:00:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, lets have fun 16:00:18 <mfb-> @stage building 16:00:18 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG208 (r22466) | STAGE: building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 16:00:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> smallest voting ever 16:01:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> "LL_RR for stations" are the towns and the factory? 16:01:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> and FPP 16:01:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> "that thing in the south" :D 16:02:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000016BF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000016BF.png 16:02:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> and all wood trains stay in the central loop until they find a SL? 16:02:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 16:02:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 16:02:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> each SL has a waypoint inside it 16:02:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> <- a bit unsure how train distribution should work 16:02:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah ok 16:02:57 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has joined company #1 16:03:25 <V453000> the standard old SRNW style 16:05:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> like that for the hubs? 16:05:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 16:05:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> but rather MSH BBH MSH 16:05:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm well, all are MSHs 16:05:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 16:05:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> the FPP one is BBH 16:05:51 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> is !here? a good position for a station? 16:05:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> there can be at least 1 or 2 SLHs 16:06:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> Absolutis: yess, about there 16:06:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe a tad closer to the town 16:06:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> not on the hill with low tf ... 16:06:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> what about that 16:06:42 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hm 16:06:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> something like 16:06:46 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> suffices 16:06:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> in this area imo 16:12:20 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 16:12:30 <V453000> !password 16:12:30 <PublicServer> V453000: genies 16:12:44 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:14:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> any example train? 16:14:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> sec. 16:15:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh not available yet 16:15:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2013 I think 16:15:25 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> 13k is available in year -13. 16:15:30 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> how convenient. 16:15:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 16:17:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005C4B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00005C4B.png 16:18:06 <PublicServer> <mfb> are 7 platforms per line enough? 16:18:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> should be I think 16:18:25 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 16:18:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> speed is 185kmh and the wagons are quite fast iirc 16:18:43 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i have 6, is that? 16:18:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> should be, we will see 16:19:11 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> oh, we WILL see... 16:22:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> symmetry :D 16:22:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> gayest station possible 16:22:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 16:22:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> wood drop 16:22:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> I mean that single tile 16:23:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 16:23:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> both choices for both lines 16:23:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 16:23:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> now it is asymmetric :( 16:23:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> each line has 2.5 joinable lines 16:23:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh the one is larger 16:24:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> just leave it as it is please :P 16:26:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> :P 16:30:47 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> so, is mein station fine? 16:32:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000022BC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000022BC.png 16:34:09 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i fixed the two gaps, but i don't get what do you mean by sign "why this" 16:34:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is the purpose of that 16:34:47 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> the 1 extra length? 16:34:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> the whole structure 16:34:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> no, the very thing 16:35:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> why arent there just 2 rails 16:35:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> just like this 16:35:19 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i tried to build a mixer there 16:35:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> but why? 16:36:09 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> if the lines have uneven loads, the trains can access the other line too 16:36:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> but why 16:36:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is already done at the BBHs 16:36:31 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> if you say so, i can demolish it 16:36:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> no line will get more than 100% load 16:36:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> ;) 16:36:47 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :P 16:37:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> at your station should be able to handle 2 full lines 16:37:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb: nice pickup :) 16:37:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> :) 16:38:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> no TF so far 16:38:16 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> a bit of, but not much 16:38:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> (at my station= 16:38:26 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> (me) 16:40:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh 16:41:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm forgot the original concept 16:41:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> xD 16:41:47 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 16:41:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> wanted to build them in different directions 16:42:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> well that will work, too 16:42:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> just a bit difficult now 16:43:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> any ideas how to go back with the overflow without really long detours? :D 16:43:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> @makassar 16:43:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm 16:44:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe with killing a few houses from Semarang 16:44:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> :/ 16:47:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok that is the best thing 16:47:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> does not count as TF 16:47:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001E490: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001E490.png 16:47:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 16:50:38 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop 16:55:30 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 16:56:53 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmm, houston, we have a problem 16:57:04 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> the town drops do not accept goods 16:57:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> yet 16:57:19 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> should we grow them? 16:57:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> later 16:59:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> haha :p 16:59:51 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> crap :P 17:00:16 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i guess i have to try the TREE LOOPHOLE *dramatic music* 17:02:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009F22: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009F22.png 17:03:42 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:03:53 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i think i'll leave now 17:03:59 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has left the game (leaving) 17:03:59 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:05:42 <mfb-> !unpause 17:05:42 <PublicServer> *** mfb- has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.) 17:05:44 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:08:14 <mfb-> !auto 17:08:14 <PublicServer> *** mfb- has enabled autopause mode. 17:08:15 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:08:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> k, done 17:08:30 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:08:30 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:08:30 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 17:08:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> ello 17:08:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 17:09:22 <mfb-> 2014 and no 13 17:09:57 <PublicServer> <Sylf> EL13K? 17:10:15 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It'll come :) 17:11:58 *** nicfer has joined #openttdcoop 17:14:04 <nicfer> !download win64 17:14:04 <PublicServer> nicfer: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22466/openttd-trunk-r22466-windows-win64.zip 17:14:22 <TWerkhoven> !password 17:14:22 <PublicServer> TWerkhoven: coater 17:14:31 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven joined the game 17:17:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001C67C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001C67C.png 17:18:55 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined spectators 17:19:45 <nicfer> !password 17:19:45 <PublicServer> nicfer: crates 17:19:59 <PublicServer> *** nicfer joined the game 17:21:36 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 17:21:48 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has joined spectators 17:21:50 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi all 17:22:46 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 17:24:32 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 17:24:32 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:24:49 <V453000> !password 17:24:50 <PublicServer> V453000: crates 17:25:12 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:25:12 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:25:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> back :p 17:25:14 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:28:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm why is Pekanbaru left hand traffic and with so long spaces before and after platforms? :o 17:31:24 <Chris_Booth> shits a giggles? 17:31:30 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 17:31:48 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 17:32:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> looks like a maglev station with that 17:32:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000012BF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000012BF.png 17:32:37 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> looks very strange 17:32:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> huge signal gaps 17:33:28 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hhm :s that can't be right 17:34:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> still not available? 17:34:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont remember when exactly :o thought 13 17:35:28 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> erm what are the station locations V453000? 17:35:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm? 17:35:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> for the pland drops 17:35:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> as built already 17:35:59 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they just have station names at the moment 17:36:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> meh ... 17:36:11 <mfb-> found a google hit for 2016 17:36:41 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oh i see those are both town drops 17:37:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok I can't play now but will be back late 17:37:09 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 17:41:11 *** perk11 has quit IRC 17:43:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> there we go 17:43:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> official date 2016 :) 17:43:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> :) 17:44:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> wondering which goods wagons to choose 17:45:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> centerbeams flatcars look nice as they are wood products 17:45:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> regular wood trucks for wood? 17:45:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> and 60 per wagon isnt too bad either 17:45:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 17:45:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> nice logs 17:47:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, parallel building 17:47:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002677: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002677.png 17:47:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> eh :D 17:48:24 <PublicServer> <Sylf> no centerbeam for woods themselves? 17:48:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> would suck imo 17:48:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> the log cars are just awesome 17:50:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> now the bad thing 17:50:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> water 17:51:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> why is that bad? 17:51:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> because the tanker has 2 variants 17:51:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> each of different length 17:51:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 17:51:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, actually 3 17:51:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> one for short water, longer water, longest for oil 17:52:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> as long as the result is 1.6-2 tiles long, it is fine 17:52:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> well it will be 2.0 long, but I need to manage to get the shorter version 17:52:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> which I dont know how atm 17:52:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> strange 17:53:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> ha 17:53:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> train 28 has it 17:53:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf! :o 17:53:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> engine-specific? 17:53:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> looks like it but I am 100% sure I had it behind EL13k 17:54:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> where is the problem with the current ones? 17:54:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> less capacity :p 17:55:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 17:55:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> 0.4 tiles for the short version 17:55:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> so you cannot add 4 anyway 17:55:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> as that would be 2.1 17:55:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can 17:56:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> the counters are wrong 17:56:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, 4 give 1.5 17:56:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> strange thing 17:56:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm 17:56:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> how the hell did I manage that :o 17:57:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> but as soon as I remove the other engine, I get the long version again 17:57:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah :( 17:57:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe it was possible with an old version only 17:57:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> it was this version 17:58:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok 17:58:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> I was testing that when making plan 17:59:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 17:59:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> where do we have LLL_RRR now? 17:59:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm, good point 17:59:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 17:59:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok lets make center LLLRRR and rest LLRR 17:59:39 <PublicServer> <Sylf> between MSH and town drops? 17:59:43 <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh 18:00:16 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 18:00:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> WTF 18:01:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> WTF 18:01:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> train 28 18:01:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just somehow did it 18:01:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> grats :p 18:01:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> cloning fails sometimes though 18:01:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> now tell me ... HOW :D 18:02:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> works ... kind of :) 18:02:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007F21: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007F21.png 18:02:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 18:03:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> we cant use the shorter wagons 18:03:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> see 36 18:03:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> ... 18:03:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> the train does fit in TL2 station, but not in CL2 18:03:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> only this is needed 18:04:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> straight curves are ok - train fits in station long 2 too 18:04:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have no clue how this bug thingy works but we have to use the longer wagons 18:04:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmmhmm 18:04:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> well 3 short ones are fine, too 18:04:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 18:04:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> so cloning is no problem 18:04:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> rest of our train should be fine but we can test it 18:04:50 <md_> !dl lin64 18:04:50 <PublicServer> md_: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22466/openttd-trunk-r22466-linux-generic-amd64.tar.xz 18:05:33 <md_> !password 18:05:33 <PublicServer> md_: broads 18:06:24 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 18:06:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 18:06:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, standard 0.5 wagons dont break 18:08:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 18:08:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1.5 :( 18:08:31 <md_> !password 18:08:31 <PublicServer> md_: broads 18:08:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> both versions at least 18:08:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> have to take care at hubs 18:08:40 <PublicServer> *** md joined the game 18:08:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 18:08:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> no water at my station :D 18:11:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting 18:11:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1.9 == 1.5 18:12:04 <mfb-> @gap 2 18:12:04 <Webster> mfb-: For Trainlength of 2: <= 8 needs 2, 9 - 12 needs 3, 13 - 16 needs 4. 18:12:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm 18:12:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> well meh :) 18:15:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> careful 18:15:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> I will need to bridge two lines 18:15:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmf 18:15:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> then we need your hub more to the west 18:15:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think 18:15:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> I wanted to tell you before and I didnt even realize this :( 18:16:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 18:16:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> wanted to solve :D 18:16:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> solved 18:16:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> meh lets do it the "wiser" way :p 18:16:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry :p 18:17:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> 3 lines? 18:17:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 18:17:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes :p 18:17:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B0C4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B0C4.png 18:18:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> is it possible to build a BBH without TF? :D 18:18:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> why not 18:18:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> on this flat space, sure is 18:18:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> :) 18:19:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt count tunnels as TF though :) 18:21:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> come to me, S-bends :D 18:21:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 18:22:15 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 18:26:17 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 18:26:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> stupid copper thing 18:26:27 <V453000> !password 18:26:27 <PublicServer> V453000: decays 18:26:40 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:27:01 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 18:27:10 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 18:27:39 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:30:29 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 18:30:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 18:30:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 18:30:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> forgetting a line in the middle of a hub is also good 18:31:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 18:32:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009EEF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009EEF.png 18:32:40 <PublicServer> *** nicfer has left the game (leaving) 18:35:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw always add unload and leave empty to drop orders 18:35:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> any specific reason for that? 18:35:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> of course 18:35:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> if there is a water supply near our water drop, the trains will start picking water up 18:36:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> so "do not load" is enough 18:36:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much 18:36:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok 18:36:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> but unload is required in case industry dies 18:36:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> so primaries are kept serviced 18:37:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> which doesnt happen in normal cases, but with some major rebuilds or in the beginning of the game, it could 18:42:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> "give up"? 18:42:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah water :D 18:42:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> die. 18:42:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> transparency -> invisible water 18:42:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> :( 18:43:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm 18:43:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 18:47:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C4E1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000C4E1.png 18:57:19 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 19:01:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> just one merge left :D 19:01:17 <PublicServer> <md> missing an exit signal i think? 19:01:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> where? 19:01:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 19:01:38 <PublicServer> <md> at prio sign 19:02:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> does not change anything with a second exit sign 19:02:16 <PublicServer> <md> ok 19:02:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B6DF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B6DF.png 19:08:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> cool 19:08:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> no TF 19:08:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> not even for bridges/tunnels 19:09:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh 19:09:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> "first expansion is done" 19:09:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> west is LLL_RRR, too 19:10:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol :) 19:10:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> well I guess it will get some use 19:10:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> just fitted in 19:16:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> the LL_RR-position is final? 19:17:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00015CC6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00015CC6.png 19:20:57 *** Chris_Booth_ has joined #openttdcoop 19:24:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> 1/2 done 19:24:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:24:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> water is resistent to signs 19:25:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> I see :) 19:25:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> well it is decreasing at least 19:25:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe I can serve it 19:25:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> ;) 19:27:44 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 19:32:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000D124: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000D124.png 19:38:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> the upper part of the BBH looks ugly :p 19:39:13 <PublicServer> <md> rdy to connect more primaries? 19:39:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> only if they always stay in the western part 19:40:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> so fruit/maize/wppd is ok there ;) 19:40:25 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:40:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> combining SRNW and regular SLHs can give problems 19:41:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh wait 19:41:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> SLH WP 19:41:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> fine 19:43:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> first train! 19:43:32 <PublicServer> <md> grats 19:43:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> running costs<->income are not so good.. 19:44:59 <V453000> !password 19:44:59 <PublicServer> V453000: miking 19:45:11 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:45:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> primaries like fruit can even go into red 19:45:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> goods and wood should raise it uhp 19:45:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> up 19:46:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> any temporary solution for the water problem? ;) 19:46:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 19:46:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> no need 19:46:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok there is a single tunnel for each line 19:46:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 19:47:17 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has joined company #1 19:47:21 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> ello 19:47:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001BD77: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001BD77.png 19:47:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 19:50:26 <mfb-> hi 19:50:40 <mfb-> just one MSH missing, feel free to build it ;) 19:52:42 <nicfer> !password 19:52:42 <PublicServer> nicfer: daubed 19:52:57 <PublicServer> *** nicfer joined the game 19:53:36 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> the bit between the msh's is lllrrr, the other 2 connections are/can be llrr? 19:53:36 <PublicServer> <nicfer> hi all 19:53:40 <PublicServer> <nicfer> anything to do? 19:53:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 19:53:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> TWerkhoven: yeas 19:55:18 <PublicServer> <nicfer> what can I do? 19:55:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> SLHs, primaries, one MSH is missing 19:56:58 <PublicServer> *** nicfer has joined company #1 20:00:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> @@MSH 20:00:03 <Webster> msh: Main Station Hub, see also: http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/2009/06/14/re-introducing-main-station-hubs/ 20:00:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> you can design it for a higher line count, of course :p 20:01:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont use teamchat please 20:01:14 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> I is attempting the msh 20:01:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> there are no enemies here 20:02:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000106C9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000106C9.png 20:02:38 <mfb-> :p 20:03:13 <mfb-> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Basic_Networking#Line_Hierarchy there is a small part for MSHs 20:03:15 <PublicServer> <nicfer> is there something I could do? 20:03:28 <mfb-> SLHs 20:03:34 <mfb-> maybe help at the MSH 20:05:25 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 20:05:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :p 20:05:31 <PublicServer> <Spike> ello 20:05:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 20:05:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> wee 20:05:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> unsynced parts in the BBH 20:06:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> but I see that it is impossible there 20:06:48 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:06:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> without moving other stuff around 20:07:14 <PublicServer> *** md has left the game (leaving) 20:07:25 <V453000> !password 20:07:26 <PublicServer> V453000: sphinx 20:07:39 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:07:53 *** Thraxian has joined #openttdcoop 20:07:54 <mfb-> !screen 20:07:55 <PublicServer> *** mfb- made screenshot at 0000BEC3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000BEC3.png 20:08:34 <PublicServer> <Spike> did i miss anything unimportant in my months of inactivity? :) 20:08:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> dunno 20:08:55 <PublicServer> <Spike> .... 20:08:59 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> lol 20:09:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> everything is important :P 20:09:42 <PublicServer> <Spike> oh... tell me all about it then ;) 20:09:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> bah 20:09:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> :P 20:11:01 <PublicServer> <Spike> all i see now atm is an srnw game... that i don't understand **** about but that could be cause my head is still half with my college project... :) 20:11:09 <PublicServer> <Spike> but finished the report.... that's what counts :D 20:11:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> just a part of it is SRNW 20:11:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:11:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> and PF traps with TL2 look strange 20:11:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> where do you need PF traps 20:12:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> ehm 20:12:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> i meant arrows 20:12:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> ohh :) 20:12:40 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 20:12:50 <PublicServer> <nicfer> at the north part of the MSH, shouldn't it be LL_RR? 20:12:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh hi Thraxian! :) 20:13:00 <Thraxian> has the day of return come already? 20:13:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> more lines do not harm us 20:13:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 20:13:08 <Thraxian> Spike and Thrax in the same day :) 20:13:14 <^Spike^> ... 20:13:16 <^Spike^> oh i'm outta here! 20:13:20 <^Spike^> ;) 20:13:54 <^Spike^> infestion of the returning dutch!? 20:14:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> do we need the exit waypoints? 20:14:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc 20:14:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> goto drop is not enough? 20:14:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> it would, but would not make non-stop on ML 20:14:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm ok 20:15:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> -> mess 20:15:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> only with building errors somewhere ;) 20:15:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> or eyecandy on rails :p 20:15:34 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 20:15:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> how large should your network become? 20:16:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> over the whole hill I would expect 20:17:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000867E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000867E.png 20:21:41 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> silly fruit plantation 20:22:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> planning -> building, not the reverse order :p 20:22:40 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> true enough 20:22:54 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> experience wouldn't hur either 20:23:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> we will get money problems soon 20:24:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes :D 20:24:31 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> is Mataram North complete? 20:24:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> we didnt even have wood drop factory 20:24:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 20:24:47 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> station entrance/exit is missing a few rails 20:25:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 20:25:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting concept 20:25:19 * TWerkhoven decides to leave the msh for now untill he has some more experience, and does an slh somewhere else 20:25:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm 20:25:26 <TWerkhoven> btw, the water thingie is gone 20:25:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> surprisingly it works 20:25:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> I expected the PF trap to break 20:25:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> no 20:25:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 20:25:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok yes 20:25:46 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> in bbh1 20:25:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> expected an arrow requirement ... but yes, sometimes it isnt :) 20:27:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe we would like to connect something else than a 500k lumber mills first :D 20:27:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 20:28:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> but we get some money now 20:28:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, mainly MM :( 20:31:19 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> how much money was there when build started? 20:31:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> ~10 millions? 20:31:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> more 20:32:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok 20:32:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00015711: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00015711.png 20:32:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> wood drop should be the next thing 20:32:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 20:32:37 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (leaving) 20:32:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> money 20:32:45 *** Thraxian has quit IRC 20:35:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> bankruptcy! :D 20:35:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> careful guys :p 20:35:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> MM help 20:36:06 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> *attempts to transfer some money from the previous psg 20:39:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh water died :) 20:40:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> let's make some money with goods :) 20:40:29 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> remake pekanbaru drop? 20:40:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, the current station could be better... 20:41:27 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> for one thing the tracks run the rong way if you look !here 20:41:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf :D 20:41:47 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> ill just make a crossover 20:41:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 20:41:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> I already pointed at that 20:41:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> it should be rebuilt probably 20:42:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> the stations is terribnle 20:42:08 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> then we can properly rebuild once the other station is operational 20:42:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok .. :) 20:43:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw Pekanbaru doesnt accept goods yet 20:43:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> whoever made the goods trains :) 20:44:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> funded new buildings, that mich help 20:44:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> might 20:44:31 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> added some roads, so more room for buildings 20:46:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, but food should work ;) 20:46:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 20:46:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will allow fast growth rate for a while 20:46:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> nice 20:46:30 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> :) 20:46:31 <V453000> !rcon set town_growth_rate 4 20:46:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> btw: fixed a signal gap at SLH02 20:47:01 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> mmmm, cactusmilk 20:47:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :) 20:47:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh another one :D 20:47:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008E5E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008E5E.png 20:48:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> there 20:48:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> Pekanbaru online 20:48:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> Jayapura will need water and food first 20:49:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> or funding buildings 20:49:08 <V453000> !rcon set town_growth_rate 0 20:49:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> food is on its way 20:49:41 <mfb-> oh 20:49:48 <mfb-> not to jayapura 20:51:00 <PublicServer> <Spike> am i really seeing my favorite name in the sign list........ 20:55:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> what is that? 20:55:56 <PublicServer> <Spike> ? 20:56:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> MSH sample 20:56:11 *** amitp has quit IRC 20:56:18 <PublicServer> <Spike> ehm..... ask nicfer? 20:56:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> I do? 20:56:27 <PublicServer> <Spike> ;) 20:56:45 <PublicServer> <nicfer> it needs signaling 20:56:55 <PublicServer> <Spike> he asks what it is.. not what it needs... :) 20:57:26 <PublicServer> <nicfer> it's a concept for a junction 20:57:56 <PublicServer> <nicfer> well, it's more a practice rather than a concept 20:57:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> which line is what? 20:59:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> these are the connections the MSH must get 20:59:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> at !here 21:00:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> the look is up to the builder 21:00:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> the connections are not -> all sides to all sides 21:01:13 <PublicServer> <nicfer> well, I'll retry 21:02:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009539: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009539.png 21:03:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> gnight 21:03:02 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:03:10 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> cya V 21:07:11 <PublicServer> <nicfer> I need to do a special connection because the ML from below is LLL_RRR and the other two exits are LL_RR 21:09:36 <mfb-> well, you can just merge 5->2 and 4->2 21:09:43 <mfb-> and 4->3 at one side 21:10:07 <mfb-> or build the whole hub for LLL_RRR :p 21:10:49 <PublicServer> <Spike> last option seems most easy to do.... since you just need to put balancer at the LL_RR parts 21:11:21 <mfb-> 5->2-merges are not too difficult 21:11:41 <^Spike^> hey i haven't played for too long.. atm everything is difficult again ;) 21:11:45 <mfb-> can be done via 3->2, 2+2->2 to use more common layouts 21:12:06 <mfb-> of course, MSHs/BBHs are not the easiest things 21:12:19 <mfb-> but LL_RR is not more difficult than LLL_RRR 21:15:04 <^Spike^> atm i looking at stuff and thinking... in december this wasn't that hard... 21:17:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A73C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000A73C.png 21:25:51 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:26:41 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined spectators 21:27:55 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 21:29:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi all 21:29:13 <PublicServer> <nicfer> hi 21:29:15 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> ello 21:29:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Jayapura: do you think that is a good idea for BBH 01? 21:32:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B334: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B334.png 21:47:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000766B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000766B.png 21:47:40 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 21:53:40 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 21:56:08 <PublicServer> <nicfer> can somebody tell me about my 'raw 3 into 2 injector'? 21:56:16 <PublicServer> <nicfer> at 'can this be shrunk'? 21:56:50 <PublicServer> *** nicfer has changed his/her name to nicfercoop 21:57:20 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 21:57:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> looks a bit strange 21:57:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> and different lines get different priority 21:57:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> +capacity 21:58:10 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> oh, I see my problem 21:58:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> you can see an example of 5->2 in the north of MSH01 21:58:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> actually 3->2 with 2+2->2 afterwards 21:58:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, one prio missing 21:59:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> fixed 21:59:49 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> @@north 22:01:34 <md_> !password 22:01:34 <PublicServer> md_: canned 22:01:46 <PublicServer> *** md joined the game 22:01:53 <PublicServer> <md> hi 22:01:55 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> coords 1,1 is north? 22:02:17 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> and hi md 22:02:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008E68: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008E68.png 22:02:37 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:02:51 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I always forgot 22:03:03 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> where's north 22:04:11 *** amitp has joined #openttdcoop 22:04:29 *** amitp has left #openttdcoop 22:04:43 <PublicServer> <md> what do these strange stations near SLH01 achieve? 22:05:59 <V453000> depends, current official convention says "UP" just like literally upper corner of the map 22:06:33 <V453000> !password 22:06:33 <PublicServer> V453000: sprout 22:06:44 <KenjiE20> Up Is Down 22:06:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 22:06:45 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:06:48 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> hi again 22:07:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> omg who modified SL 02 22:08:04 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not me 22:08:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why? 22:08:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> there were some massively screwed up signals 22:08:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I just made an overkill timer @ SLH 03 22:09:18 <PublicServer> <md> V, what do the same-station load/drop trains do? just help grow the primary? 22:09:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 22:09:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> SRNW dummies 22:09:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> you know SRNW? 22:09:49 <PublicServer> <md> not really, just the basic concept. i thought we weren't using it 22:09:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> read plan better? :D 22:10:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway, the trains have no real orders - they do not go to the exact stations 22:10:31 <PublicServer> <md> yea they pickup by going between two waypoints 22:10:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> so the "dummy" trains make sure that they enter stations at the right times - when there is 1 train of a load for them 22:11:06 <PublicServer> <md> ok 22:11:14 <PublicServer> <md> i see, it blocks it until there is 22:14:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> TWerkhoven: I built you an overflow 22:15:33 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> how should I do my 5->2 to Jayapura, connecting the three rails from ML to the other two or viceversa? 22:16:10 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nicfercoop: do what you think it best 22:16:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but IMO 3->2 then 2+2 22:16:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> take up less room 22:16:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but you need to fix !signals first 22:17:10 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it has a gap of 5 tiles on the ML 22:17:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and also a gap of 6 22:17:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008078: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008078.png 22:19:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nicfercoop: !this is generaly how we build bridges in hubs here 22:19:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> PBS on the ML is very bad 22:20:21 *** mfb- has quit IRC 22:20:24 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 22:20:26 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and you bridges are also out of sync 22:20:28 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> so PBS doesn't fix it 22:20:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no it doesn't 22:20:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as they have a delay 22:20:44 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> which will jam the mL 22:26:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nicfercoop: I made you a simple yet very effective 3->2 merger 22:26:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> with accessible prios (tm) 22:27:05 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> w/e V453000 I always do that :P 22:27:12 *** pugi has quit IRC 22:27:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but thanks for the point out 22:27:20 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bad habits die hard 22:28:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw the length counters are worse than I thought 22:28:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1.9 in counter == 1.5 in real length 22:28:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> wow realy 22:28:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2.0 == over CL2 22:28:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf... 22:29:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> the water trains fit in 3 diagonal half tiles 22:29:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its a realy old bug, but no fix planed for a long time 22:29:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess 22:29:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway, gnight 22:29:29 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:29:31 <PublicServer> <md> gn 22:31:48 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has left the game (leaving) 22:31:49 <TWerkhoven> gn 22:32:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008868: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008868.png 22:32:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nicfercoop: again that works very well 22:32:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I have used it alot in very busy networks 22:33:04 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> the 3->2 will flood that section 22:33:22 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> gives to 2+2 -> 2 (all to all) and 3->2 in same consturaction 22:33:37 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it also leaves rooms to add priors at a later date 22:34:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and also nicfercoop if bottleneck becomes and issue the ML futher down will need expanding to LLL_RRR 22:35:31 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> well, then it'd be better to make it all LLL_RRR 22:35:37 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no 22:35:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> since the plan doesn't call for that 22:35:50 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and it would make a boring game 22:37:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nicfercoop: please don't use my merege 22:37:41 <PublicServer> <md> my trains are losing money :( 22:38:00 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it is only an idea 22:38:02 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or help 22:38:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you will be better of building it yourself 22:38:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you will learn more 22:38:59 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the dummy trains will md 22:40:45 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 22:47:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000866F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000866F.png 22:59:09 *** Skasi has joined #openttdcoop 22:59:15 <Skasi> Give password! Hurr. 22:59:17 <Skasi> !password 22:59:17 <PublicServer> Skasi: gazing 22:59:32 <PublicServer> *** Skasi joined the game 22:59:36 <Skasi> I could've found that out by myself too. 22:59:53 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 23:01:38 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 23:02:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008A7D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008A7D.png 23:03:45 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 23:05:28 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 23:06:15 <PublicServer> <Skasi> Laser Fences? 23:08:44 <PublicServer> *** Skasi has left the game (leaving) 23:09:44 *** Chris_Booth_ has quit IRC 23:09:45 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:16:49 *** Skasi has quit IRC 23:17:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006277: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006277.png 23:20:10 *** JamesGo_ has joined #openttdcoop 23:21:59 *** JamesGo has quit IRC 23:23:19 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:31:00 <PublicServer> *** Phil has left the game (leaving) 23:32:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006C88: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006C88.png 23:42:59 *** Phil_ has quit IRC 23:45:34 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I need to do a 4->3 now, where should the load balancers go? 23:47:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000828A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000828A.png