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Log for #openttdcoop on 15th August 2011:
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00:10:16  <Sylf> !password
00:10:16  <PublicServer> Sylf: tureen
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00:10:59  <PublicServer> <Sylf> WTF
00:11:06  <PublicServer> <Sylf> Stop growing towns
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00:25:14  <Sylf> !password
00:25:14  <PublicServer> Sylf: payoff
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04:25:31  <mattt_> !password
04:25:31  <PublicServer> mattt_: epochs
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05:26:45  <Sylf> persil, are you actually around?
05:27:36  <Sylf> !players
05:27:39  <PublicServer> Sylf: Client 212 (Orange) is Sylf, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.)
05:27:39  <PublicServer> Sylf: Client 172 (Orange) is persil, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.)
05:27:47  <Sylf> 8 hours of inactivity -- I'm assuming not.
05:27:54  <Sylf> !rcon kick 172
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05:27:57  <Sylf> !auto
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05:51:03  <planetmaker> moin
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06:01:07  <HDIEagle> halo
06:01:12  <HDIEagle> !players
06:01:14  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: There are currently no clients connected to the server
06:01:51  <HDIEagle> oh wait no this is aussie prime time
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06:12:02  <Phazorx> morning
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06:29:50  <Absolutis> !password
06:29:50  <PublicServer> Absolutis: epochs
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06:30:29  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> morning
06:30:43  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> 'ning
06:37:23  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> whats NARS and UKRS? differnet trainsets?
06:37:29  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> *different
06:41:44  <Absolutis> yep, that.
06:47:07  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> and the reversed engine is for?
06:47:21  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> in current trunk you cannot reverse engines
06:47:58  <Sylf> (backward facing engines)
06:48:24  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmm
06:48:27  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> sowhat is  the "DO NOT DELETE"-engine for?
06:48:52  <Sylf> exactly that -- reversed engines
06:49:07  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> you can copy it and put wagons for more realistic freight trains
06:49:15  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> ah - I see
06:49:22  <Sylf> This game was originally created with pretty old version of nightly, so they could build those reversed engines
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06:50:04  <Sylf> Now that the game is hosted on much newer version of nightly, we can copy those engines, but we can't create them like that from scratch
06:50:54  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> still so much to learn.. ;)
06:51:20  <Sylf> that's more of a history lesson :P
06:51:54  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> why was reversed removed?
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06:53:13  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> when openttd developers woke up one night, the code was there. They tried to remove it, but the instant they pressed "delete", the OS Crashed. lol JK
06:53:40  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> ^^,
06:54:46  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmm, the small airports could be upgraded with newer airports on canal-platforms
06:55:00  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> and that is pretty easily reversable, when the MM is removed
06:55:51  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> shall I?7
06:57:29  <Sylf> don't spend too much effort on MM
06:58:16  <Absolutis> why?
06:58:34  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> Sylf: your plan includes land bridges to reach resoursec on small desert islands, or boat service to mainland?
06:59:01  <Sylf> as long as MM are making money, that's all we need out of them - they don't have to make money fast right now
06:59:15  <Sylf> We already have enough money to get the game started
06:59:34  <Sylf> It's not like we'll be using DB(XL)'s 182
07:00:00  <Sylf> Land bridge is to the town on the island
07:00:37  <Sylf> To drop off at least goods and passengers, and pickup more passengers
07:00:55  <Sylf> power station for that town can be off of the island
07:01:34  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> kk
07:07:38  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> '!plan /Sylf got my vote. two votes behind now
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08:34:30  <Absolutis> !fish
08:34:30  <PublicServer> Absolutis: Today's fish is sushi with eel.
08:34:39  <Absolutis> @ping
08:34:58  <Absolutis> Webster hates me. Yay.
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09:04:25  <Mark> hello
09:06:11  <Mark> !password
09:06:11  <PublicServer> Mark: thrift
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09:23:06  <Absolutis> gtg, trying to reduce lag on romazoon's
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10:01:31  <Absolutis> !screen
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10:09:47  <cprc> !password
10:09:47  <PublicServer> cprc: murals
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10:20:54  <Absolutis> !password
10:20:54  <PublicServer> Absolutis: murals
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10:57:04  <Tray> !password
10:57:04  <PublicServer> Tray: boiler
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12:33:41  <Absolutis> !players
12:33:44  <PublicServer> Absolutis: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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12:57:58  <Tray> !password
12:57:58  <PublicServer> Tray: laxity
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13:27:11  <Kangoo> !password
13:27:11  <PublicServer> Kangoo: laxity
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13:44:31  <Godde> Hi
13:44:58  <Godde> !download win64
13:44:58  <PublicServer> Godde: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22727/openttd-trunk-r22727-windows-win64.zip
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13:46:54  <Maraxus> !password
13:46:54  <PublicServer> Maraxus: braced
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13:53:50  <Godde> !password
13:53:50  <PublicServer> Godde: dogmas
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13:54:04  <PublicServer> <Player> oh hi
13:54:46  <hylje_> set player name please
13:55:03  <Godde> will do
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13:55:24  <Godde> !password
13:55:24  <PublicServer> Godde: dogmas
13:55:31  <PublicServer> <Godde> there we go
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13:55:47  <hylje_> thanks
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13:57:33  <iklucas> !password
13:57:34  <PublicServer> iklucas: dogmas
13:58:00  <Absolutis> !password
13:58:00  <PublicServer> Absolutis: dogmas
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13:58:25  <PublicServer> <Godde> when will this badboy start for real?
13:59:23  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> dunno, it's pretty much a tie between Sylf and CB so..
13:59:29  <PublicServer> <iklucas> nop
13:59:31  <PublicServer> <iklucas> i'll vote CB:P
14:00:11  <PublicServer> <Godde> there, CB is ahead :D
14:00:33  <PublicServer> <iklucas> there i go:D
14:00:35  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> caps.
14:00:39  <PublicServer> <iklucas> 3 more and we can start:D
14:00:41  <PublicServer> <iklucas> yep
14:01:00  <PublicServer> <iklucas> so it's clear i placed that sign myself;)
14:01:30  <PublicServer> <iklucas> who's the real NO 1 here:D
14:01:44  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yay, entrepreneur, but i think they were a little early
14:02:11  <PublicServer> <iklucas> what? xD
14:02:29  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> the company rating thing
14:02:35  <PublicServer> <iklucas> oh ye
14:02:37  <PublicServer> <iklucas> `
14:03:53  <PublicServer> <iklucas> aircraft 7 makes us loose money
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14:06:27  <Godde> I'm out for now. Will check back later :)
14:06:35  <PublicServer> <iklucas> bb
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14:08:41  <mosi|work> what's the config file option for disabling light houses and antennas?
14:10:05  <PublicServer> <iklucas> then we can't receive radio anymore:(
14:12:32  <Phazorx> mosi|work: you mean hide or actually disable them?
14:12:44  <mosi|work> totally disable them on a new MP game
14:13:07  <Phazorx> it used to be impossible w/o newgrf supressing that
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14:14:13  <mosi|work> ah
14:14:24  <Phazorx> not sure if it is still the case
14:14:33  <Phazorx> #openttd folks might know better
14:14:36  <mosi|work> always thought there was a place in openttd.cfg that you could just disable it
14:14:44  <planetmaker> iirc not
14:14:46  <mosi|work> ill go give them a prod, chers
14:14:58  <Phazorx> mosi|work: kinda correct: [newgrf] section in there
14:15:01  <planetmaker> in the SE you can delete them
14:15:10  <Phazorx> SE?
14:15:14  <planetmaker> scenario editor
14:15:21  <Phazorx> ahh yeah
14:15:30  <planetmaker> sorry for abbreviation-speak. sucks, I know
14:15:32  <mosi|work> ah, might be where i saw it
14:15:44  <mosi|work> was hoping to just have the server generate a new map without them though
14:15:46  <Phazorx> i think ECS replaces radio tower with sometihng usefull
14:15:57  <planetmaker> that doesn't change its properties, though
14:15:59  <Phazorx> so it might not be safe to make it disablableper-config
14:16:09  <mosi|work> i saw one to replace them with rocks
14:16:12  <planetmaker> newgrfs cannot change the meaning / behaviour of those two really
14:16:23  <mosi|work> but it's more that they are a pain and in the way
14:16:28  <hylje_> it still blocks stuff
14:16:28  <Phazorx> planetmaker: they are just place blockers?
14:16:29  <planetmaker> yes... but whether an antenna or stone blocks it... :-)
14:16:36  <planetmaker> Phazorx, yes
14:17:21  <Phazorx> considering this - someone might suggest an idea about this to #openttd
14:17:36  <Phazorx> talking about blood -- what is the state of paxdest/cargodest these days?
14:17:57  <planetmaker> look at yacd
14:18:42  <planetmaker> in short: existing as separate repos, but not stable / finished
14:18:45  <hylje_> i'm still kind of wishing for bedrock/landtypes to make stupid landscaping expensive
14:18:57  <planetmaker> hylje_, just do that
14:19:09  <planetmaker> using a cost newgrf is easy
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14:19:32  <hylje_> i mean
14:20:20  <hylje_> there's a number of landscape types map generation time that have different costs to dig out and tunnel through
14:20:34  <hylje_> that span all the way down to a bedrock level which is impregnable
14:21:10  <Phazorx> btw... very long time ago i suggested adding range to planes, to make them less lucrative and more fun... any one ever heard of that being implemented in any way?
14:21:10  <hylje_> practically pre-dependency would be 3D map so it's kind of a big deal
14:21:45  <Phazorx> hylje_: i tihnk you are confusing ottd with DF :)
14:21:53  <hylje_> or minecraft?
14:22:00  <Phazorx> could be :)
14:22:11  <Phazorx> Df is a bit more strategic though
14:22:20  <hylje_> fact is DF and MC don't have very good train simulation
14:22:48  <Phazorx> hylje_: there are steam engines planned in DF at some stage
14:23:11  <hylje_> yea but the block of the world you play in isn't that large
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14:23:42  <Phazorx> hylje_: not really, however forms of transportation other than hauling would be quite in place there
14:24:00  <Phazorx> especially if you need to move layers of rocks counting hundreds boulders
14:24:08  <Phazorx> or are about to relocate forges
14:24:56  <hylje_> yea
14:25:07  <hylje_> but you're not playing a train game
14:26:20  <hylje_> tangible land in openttd would make you think about how to route your rails through/above/below geography
14:27:40  <Phazorx> that adds complexity in form of costs, however i'm not sure about fun being a part of the deal
14:28:10  <Phazorx> i like base cost multiplier approach we used in WWOTTDGD games
14:28:10  <hylje_> sure is fun leveling an entire mountain and otherwise trivializing construction
14:28:28  <Phazorx> hell not, but there are other ways to ocntroll it
14:30:48  <planetmaker> like... making use of the # of tiles terraformed per tick?
14:31:09  <hylje_> you should be allowed to inexpensively cut through small geography and tweak it, but megaprojects should be stupidly expensive (though sometimes profitable)
14:31:30  <planetmaker> then you do it piecewise
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16:49:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeeeeey I win XD
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17:12:01  <Godde> !password
17:12:01  <PublicServer> Godde: bleeds
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17:48:28  <mfb-> hi
17:48:35  <Mazur> lo
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17:48:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> wow
17:48:46  <Mazur> ?
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17:48:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> voting board
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17:49:49  <Mazur> Can you add something to the middle column and delete it again?  THen the server will make a snapshot.
17:50:04  <mfb-> !screen
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17:50:14  <Mazur> That'd work, too.
17:50:50  <Mazur> Weird, before V did have votes.
17:51:19  <Maraxus> !password
17:51:19  <PublicServer> Maraxus: bleeds
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17:51:38  <Chris_Booth[ph]> Bonjour
17:53:50  <Mazur> Dunno about that.
17:59:51  <Tray> CB wins and start building? (:
18:01:32  <Sylf> Did so many people actually change their votes?  Or did it get rigged?
18:02:09  <Tray> I think iklucas changed his vote from sylf to cb
18:02:25  <Tray> don't know about the others
18:02:59  <Sylf> I do remember seeing at least 4 votes to V
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18:03:32  <mfb-> <- changed his vote
18:03:51  <Sylf> er, maybe 2 votes....
18:04:09  <Sylf> anyway
18:04:16  <Sylf> looks like we have a clear winner
18:04:31  <Sylf> and we have a member around
18:04:34  <Sylf> we can start building
18:04:57  <Sylf> !password
18:04:57  <PublicServer> Sylf: calves
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18:06:11  <Sylf> @stage Building
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18:06:27  <PublicServer> <Sylf> Go nuts
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18:08:48  <Sylf> I do need to head back to work
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18:09:37  <Sylf> I hope someone else can join soon and start building
18:12:35  <Maraxus> !password
18:12:35  <PublicServer> Maraxus: suckle
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18:50:59  <Zyl> !password
18:50:59  <PublicServer> Zyl: motels
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18:53:22  <PublicServer> <Tray> staretig building without cb? \:
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18:55:38  <PublicServer> Ryto: boldly
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18:55:56  <PublicServer> <Ryton> building stage, cool
18:56:10  <PublicServer> <Ryton> I missted hte voting part :s
18:56:26  <PublicServer> <Ryton> is Sylf's plan still present ?
18:56:39  <PublicServer> <Tray> yes
18:56:41  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ok it is :-)
18:56:52  <Tray> @gap 3
18:56:52  <Webster> Tray: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
18:56:54  <PublicServer> <Ryton> always good to see the runner-up
18:56:58  <Tray> @gap 5
18:56:59  <Webster> Tray: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4.
18:57:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> CL3, but be careful with S-bends
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18:58:02  <Godde> !password
18:58:02  <PublicServer> Godde: boldly
18:58:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf at the second lake crossing
18:58:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> "low TF"
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18:59:47  <Godde> i keep getting booted to the main menu
19:00:09  <PublicServer> <Ryton> voting is only recently finished then?
19:00:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> yes
19:01:30  <Godde> !password
19:01:30  <PublicServer> Godde: boldly
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19:02:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> so we have 4 drop stations for Eski...
19:02:31  <PublicServer> <Ryton> the corner stations => 1 station, or 3 (city drop // pickup, Factory drop + factory pickup£?
19:02:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> what about train orders?
19:02:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> pickup is always a separate station for each thing to pick up
19:03:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> drop can be merged
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19:03:26  <PublicServer> <Ryton> except for persons/mail i guess?
19:03:29  <PublicServer> <Ryton> or even that?
19:05:25  <PublicServer> <Ryton> darn this map is hilly!!
19:05:45  <PublicServer> <Ryton> the hubs around ESK are 4 way hubs then?
19:06:00  <PublicServer> <Ryton> 8x 4wayhub
19:06:06  <PublicServer> <Ryton> and 4x 3wayhub...
19:06:26  <PublicServer> <Ryton> or 12x 3wayhub?
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19:10:41  <PublicServer> <Ryton> use some TF :p
19:10:55  <PublicServer> <Ryton> go higher already
19:11:05  <PublicServer> <Ryton> right after the bridges coming from the W?
19:11:31  <PublicServer> <Ryton> one tile higher => remove the 2nd "layer" of the small hill there?
19:11:38  <mfb-> ??
19:11:38  <PublicServer> <Ryton> no the other side!
19:11:48  <PublicServer> <Ryton> (imho ;-))
19:11:55  <PublicServer> <Tray> go on do it (:
19:12:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> where is the problem?
19:12:41  <PublicServer> <mfb> ok
19:14:09  <mfb-> pax/mail is drop+pickup at the same time, but without full load orders
19:14:20  <mfb-> so maybe they can get one own station
19:15:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> around the mountain should work
19:15:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
19:16:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> like that?
19:16:39  <PublicServer> <Tray> that tiny space will be really tempting (:
19:17:07  <PublicServer> <Ryton> euhm
19:17:12  <PublicServer> <Ryton> shouldnt we go to W too
19:17:14  <PublicServer> <Ryton> with a BBH?
19:17:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> see the upper BBH sign
19:17:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, west
19:17:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> the other one
19:17:33  <PublicServer> <Ryton> yeah
19:17:38  <PublicServer> <Ryton> a BBh at either side of the MSH :-)
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19:17:46  <PublicServer> <Ryton> 8 BBH's, 3 MSH :-)
19:17:46  <PublicServer> <Ryton> 4*
19:18:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> 8
19:18:04  <PublicServer> <Ryton> to go to the station, right?
19:18:04  <PublicServer> <mfb> in the plan, we have 8
19:18:24  <PublicServer> <Ryton> 2 for each station
19:18:30  <PublicServer> <mfb> 8 MSH, 4 BBH
19:18:35  <PublicServer> <Ryton> (both ways)?
19:18:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
19:18:47  <PublicServer> <Ryton> or in the station, only 1 way?
19:18:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> we can move the BBH mos
19:18:52  <PublicServer> <Ryton> thats not really clear to me...
19:19:10  <PublicServer> <mfb> see sign
19:19:56  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah ok, got it
19:20:00  <PublicServer> <Ryton> seems better yes
19:20:21  <PublicServer> <Ryton> but, the MSH's for the 4 ESK stations are both ways?
19:20:25  <PublicServer> <Ryton> so 2x in, 2x out?
19:20:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> the SLH may need 2 lines then
19:20:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> L_R at both sides may be enough at the moment
19:20:58  <PublicServer> <Ryton> SLH => going to the cities?
19:21:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> as we have 4 stations
19:21:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> to primaries
19:21:28  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ok so MSH is only  LR from LLLRRR
19:21:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe
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19:25:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> snow line
19:25:07  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah oke :-)
19:25:09  <PublicServer> <mfb> and yes, I know
19:25:13  <PublicServer> <Ryton> nvr mind :-)
19:25:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
19:25:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting idea
19:25:17  <PublicServer> <Ryton> forgot about that :-)
19:25:25  <PublicServer> <Ryton> tunnel it? :p
19:25:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> split it
19:27:01  <PublicServer> <Ryton> that snow line limit is tough
19:27:17  <PublicServer> <Ryton> coudl you check BBH Mos?
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19:27:27  <PublicServer> <Ryton> no way to go North from there w/o crossing the snowline :;p
19:27:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> which one?
19:27:40  <Kangoo> !password
19:27:40  <PublicServer> Kangoo: cajole
19:27:44  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah oke :-)
19:27:47  <PublicServer> <mfb> I think you can lower that a bit
19:27:49  <PublicServer> <Ryton> true
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19:28:13  <PublicServer> <Ryton> hi K
19:28:26  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> howdy
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19:28:30  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
19:28:33  <Kyle123> hi
19:28:37  <Kyle123> !playercount
19:28:37  <PublicServer> Kyle123: Number of players: 6 (2 spectators)
19:28:40  <Kyle123> !password
19:28:40  <PublicServer> Kyle123: cajole
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19:29:46  <PublicServer> <mfb> yeah, coal mine died right where I was building
19:30:24  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> for once it was not the other way around... :(
19:30:32  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> (:
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19:32:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
19:33:05  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> crosseyed...
19:35:06  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> snow is on all tiles of height 5 or more?
19:35:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> ~6-7
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19:42:44  <PublicServer> <Ryton> how good are the trains at climbing slopes?
19:42:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> don't ask :D
19:42:57  <PublicServer> <Ryton> hmm
19:43:07  <PublicServer> <Ryton> so no double-tripple slopes allowed on the mainline? :p
19:43:45  <PublicServer> <Ryton> failed? :p
19:43:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> not yet
19:44:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> nearly passed
19:44:03  <PublicServer> <Ryton> oh, thats OK imho :-))
19:44:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> so ~3 are fine
19:44:10  <PublicServer> <mfb> well, it is empty
19:44:12  <PublicServer> <Ryton> he can climb 3-4 w/o much loss
19:44:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> with load, 3 could slow down
19:44:22  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ok :-)
19:44:47  <PublicServer> <Tray> og my godness. low tf hilly area and a weak train o:
19:44:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> and TL5
19:45:04  <PublicServer> <Ryton> its called: a challenge :p
19:45:12  <PublicServer> <Ryton> as a euphemism...
19:48:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmmhmm
19:48:47  <PublicServer> <Ryton> where will ESK E be placed? :p
19:48:51  <PublicServer> <Ryton> not much room there... :p
19:49:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> for the station?
19:49:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> I know
19:49:14  <PublicServer> <Ryton> I think we might have to go towards the MM atm
19:49:28  <PublicServer> <Ryton> and go trough the 'pass' to reach the station?
19:49:42  <PublicServer> <Ryton> so make the mainline a lot largerr, around the huge mountain, till !here?
19:50:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
19:50:04  <PublicServer> <Ryton> or is that too much?
19:50:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> why that?
19:50:27  <PublicServer> <Ryton> where will the eSK -EAST staiton be ?
19:50:31  <PublicServer> <Ryton> and the power plant station?
19:50:44  <PublicServer> <Ryton> no space left :p
19:50:53  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah there
19:51:02  <PublicServer> <Ryton> so the lines should go on the OUTSIDE of that, I assume?
19:51:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> well... looks like it
19:51:25  <PublicServer> <Ryton> East and south really nearby :-)
19:51:31  <PublicServer> <Ryton> should make 1 south-east station maybe :p
19:51:55  <PublicServer> <Ryton> because 2 MSH's & a BBH in between them... very narrow...
19:52:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> something like that
19:53:09  <PublicServer> <Ryton> sounds ok. but then only a MSH at one side there?
19:53:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> terminus?
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19:53:31  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ok for me... if Chris accepts
19:53:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> he will understand the problem
19:53:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> that his plan is a bit too large for the map
19:54:00  <PublicServer> <Ryton> true
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20:08:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> wow
20:09:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> your plan is a bit tricky
20:10:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just make station 3 ways
20:10:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
20:11:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I know I made the station on the loop have 2 3 ways
20:11:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they can just have one
20:11:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and be terminus or ro ro
20:11:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> that is already planned for some parts
20:11:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or inline stations
20:11:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> inside the ML
20:12:01  <PublicServer> <Ryton> is the mixed snowline / available to build on?
20:12:07  <PublicServer> <Ryton> concerning the scenario?
20:12:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Ryton: yes
20:12:13  <PublicServer> <Ryton> I mean !this ground
20:12:15  <PublicServer> <Ryton> oki :-)
20:12:21  <PublicServer> <Ryton> that hepls
20:12:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can goods and pax can go in the snow
20:12:38  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah oke
20:12:44  <PublicServer> <Ryton> but I mean BBH's
20:12:46  <PublicServer> <mfb> I don't see dedicated good/pax-lines yet
20:12:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> only heavy trains like steel and primary trains are not allowed
20:12:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> just the ESK-stations
20:12:56  <PublicServer> <Ryton> so BBH not...?
20:13:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BBH can go upto snow line
20:13:09  <PublicServer> <Ryton> because you will link the primaries with those too
20:13:17  <PublicServer> <Ryton> could you check !this ground
20:13:23  <PublicServer> <Ryton> its mixed snow & not :p
20:13:25  <PublicServer> <Ryton> is it ok, or not?
20:13:31  <PublicServer> <Ryton> probably not :)
20:13:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> BBHs will get primaries from all sides
20:13:40  <PublicServer> <Ryton> yeah, indeed mfb
20:15:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> with TL 5 you can have quite long tunnels 12 tile IIRC
20:15:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> any how sorry for being a pain
20:15:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but got work tomorrow
20:15:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> got to be up a 6 am
20:15:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> good night
20:15:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> :p
20:15:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> good night
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20:16:08  <PublicServer> <Ryton> gN
20:16:23  <Chris_Booth[LP]> I will play go thursday got a late day on friday
20:17:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
20:18:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> signal gap
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20:18:43  <Godde> !password
20:18:43  <PublicServer> Godde: hockey
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20:19:18  <PublicServer> <Godde> oh hi
20:19:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> any CL left?
20:19:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
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20:26:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> the boat part is easy :D
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20:34:33  <iklucas> hi!
20:34:36  <iklucas> !password
20:34:36  <PublicServer> iklucas: duping
20:34:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> see !join maybe here
20:34:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
20:35:06  <PublicServer> <mfb> the other join is fine there
20:35:20  <PublicServer> <iklucas> olla
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20:35:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
20:36:17  <PublicServer> <iklucas> so Eskifjörðurnorth will be a head station?
20:36:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> yes
20:36:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> may get a second part later
20:36:45  <PublicServer> <iklucas> okey
20:37:31  <PublicServer> <iklucas> anyone seen CB tonight online yet?
20:37:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> yes
20:37:46  <PublicServer> <iklucas> wait
20:37:53  <PublicServer> <iklucas> fail:p
20:38:01  <PublicServer> <iklucas> wanted to check players:P
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20:38:58  <PublicServer> <iklucas> did he coordinate this with signs?
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20:42:01  <PublicServer> <Ryton> enjoy & see you later all
20:42:04  <PublicServer> <iklucas> why are all these damn farms exactly made at the most irritating spots?
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20:42:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
20:42:41  <PublicServer> <iklucas> well i'm off again
20:42:44  <PublicServer> <iklucas> if u see chris again
20:42:54  <PublicServer> <iklucas> ask him if we shouldnt take AL10 instead of AL6
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20:53:11  <mfb-> :(
20:53:22  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001A6D9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001A6D9.png
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22:26:58  <Sylf> !password
22:26:58  <PublicServer> Sylf: blunts
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23:06:41  <Godde> !password
23:06:41  <PublicServer> Godde: walled
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