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00:02:02 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:02:44 <Sylf> !rcon set max_ships 00:02:44 <PublicServer> Sylf: Current value for 'max_ships' is: '75' (min: 0, max: 5000) 00:03:04 <Sylf> how many more ships does the game need right now? 00:03:22 <PublicServer> <Godde> dont know about passengers, but need 5-10 more coal 00:04:26 <Sylf> there are coal ships???? 00:04:30 <PublicServer> <Godde> there are indeed 00:04:36 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 00:04:39 <Sylf> wtf 00:04:51 <PublicServer> <Sigma> there is a power station in Esk :p 00:05:53 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 00:06:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> people, group all vehicles plz 00:06:36 <PublicServer> <Sylf> including ships 00:06:46 <PublicServer> <Godde> oh shit, i forgot about the ships 00:06:48 <PublicServer> <Godde> sorry bout that 00:08:30 <Sylf> !rcon set max_ships 85 00:08:45 <PublicServer> <Godde> yay more trains! :D 00:10:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003BCFB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003BCFB.png 00:17:37 <PublicServer> *** Sigma has left the game (leaving) 00:21:12 <PublicServer> <Theos> o/ 00:21:18 <PublicServer> *** Theos has left the game (leaving) 00:21:24 *** Theos has quit IRC 00:22:11 *** mattt_ has joined #openttdcoop 00:22:38 *** mattt_ has quit IRC 00:25:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003BD02: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003BD02.png 00:29:14 *** pugi has quit IRC 00:37:43 <PublicServer> <Godde> better rating leads to the forests and whatnot generating more goods, right? 00:38:13 <PublicServer> <Sylf> eventually 00:38:19 <PublicServer> <Godde> good to know 00:38:43 <PublicServer> <Godde> cause the few stations i built require a steady flow of new trains 00:38:53 <PublicServer> <Godde> darn maintenance :P 00:40:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008FA5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008FA5.png 00:42:18 <PublicServer> <Godde> i love this stage of ttd 00:42:22 <PublicServer> <Godde> just adding more trains 00:42:32 <PublicServer> <Godde> watching the mainline 00:52:37 <PublicServer> <Sylf> Gadde, when cloning the trains, boats etc, please use ctrl 00:52:51 <PublicServer> <Godde> oh god, what did i do? 00:53:03 <PublicServer> <Sylf> ctrl-clone to have shared orders 00:53:13 <PublicServer> <Godde> okay 00:55:18 <PublicServer> <Godde> how did you notice btw? 00:55:48 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I have tendency to check on some random things 00:55:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00027271: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00027271.png 00:56:45 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I probably spend more time checking on other people's work than building my own stuff 00:57:08 <PublicServer> <Godde> find many errors? :) 00:58:17 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yes, usually 00:58:39 <PublicServer> <Sylf> like all the notes around SLH 05 00:59:05 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I also see at least 1 CL issue in ESK North MSH 00:59:42 *** Sigma has quit IRC 00:59:42 <PublicServer> <Godde> dedication :) 00:59:52 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It's just what I do 01:00:20 <PublicServer> <Godde> I don't build large or meaningful constructions, I just add stations to sidelines 01:00:26 <PublicServer> <Godde> and small optimizations 01:06:15 <PublicServer> <Godde> I hate this game... I sit down at 8, all of a sudden it's 3 01:06:45 <PublicServer> <Godde> I should go, cya later 01:06:59 <PublicServer> *** Godde has left the game (leaving) 01:06:59 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 01:07:07 *** Godde has quit IRC 01:10:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00025FA7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00025FA7.png 01:14:34 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 02:04:04 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 02:04:13 <Mark> hello 02:10:49 <Mark> !password 02:10:49 <PublicServer> Mark: hotels 02:11:26 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 02:11:29 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 02:12:17 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 02:18:52 *** Mark has quit IRC 03:00:03 *** mattt_ has joined #openttdcoop 03:09:54 *** mattt_ has quit IRC 04:06:01 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 04:06:25 <Absolutis> !passwore 04:06:28 <Absolutis> !password 04:06:28 <PublicServer> Absolutis: hotels 04:07:15 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 04:07:15 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis joined the game 04:11:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000135D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000135D.png 04:11:33 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has joined spectators 07:12:21 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 07:18:11 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 07:18:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 08:03:51 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 08:34:33 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has joined #openttdcoop 08:44:16 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:44:18 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 08:53:43 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 08:53:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 08:56:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001DFDF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001DFDF.png 09:15:42 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 09:38:30 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 09:48:42 *** persil has joined #openttdcoop 09:51:46 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:51:47 <PublicServer> *** persil joined the game 09:58:15 <Chris_Booth[LP]> hello 10:32:55 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has left the game (connection lost) 10:38:22 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 10:50:54 *** Godde has joined #openttdcoop 10:50:58 <Godde> !password 10:50:58 <PublicServer> Godde: teases 10:51:15 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:51:16 <PublicServer> *** Godde joined the game 10:52:43 <PublicServer> *** Godde has left the game (leaving) 10:52:44 *** Godde has quit IRC 11:04:16 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:04:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:05:25 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 11:05:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 11:05:28 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:05:28 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 11:05:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 11:07:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> :o 11:07:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> mos is surrounded now 11:07:51 *** Ryton has joined #openttdcoop 11:08:23 <Ryton> !players 11:08:25 <PublicServer> Ryton: Client 724 (Orange) is mfb, in company 1 (The Blogosphere) 11:08:25 <PublicServer> Ryton: Client 721 is persil, a spectator 11:08:34 <Ryton> !password 11:08:34 <PublicServer> Ryton: solemn 11:09:15 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:09:15 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:09:17 <PublicServer> *** Ryton joined the game 11:09:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> why do we have a connection mos cargo -> mos pax? 11:10:02 <PublicServer> <Ryton> do we? 11:11:01 <PublicServer> <Ryton> maybe for a slh 11:11:07 <PublicServer> <Ryton> that carries... hmm 11:11:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000126A9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000126A9.png 11:11:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> goods? ;) 11:11:18 <PublicServer> <Ryton> doesnt make sense, indeed -) 11:11:24 <PublicServer> <Ryton> yeah goods 11:11:30 <PublicServer> <Ryton> from printing works pickup 11:11:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is a different line 11:12:20 <PublicServer> <Ryton> before it wasnt :p 11:12:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> it was before the station was built 11:13:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> nice cargo lines from esk east 11:13:12 <PublicServer> <Ryton> so, it wasnt changed when the lines were moved :-) 11:13:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> cargo is newer 11:14:26 <PublicServer> <Ryton> I think ESK E could use the extra platform 11:14:32 <PublicServer> <Ryton> its crowded atm 11:15:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> su.. does not want a bank :( 11:15:57 <PublicServer> <Ryton> is that possible? 11:16:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> what? 11:16:11 <PublicServer> <Ryton> that it doenst accept a bank ... 11:16:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> try to build one 11:16:35 <PublicServer> <Ryton> will do 11:17:13 <PublicServer> <Ryton> the problem is the hilly situation 11:17:28 <PublicServer> <Ryton> no 2 tiles in the centre are flat and next to a road 11:17:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> feel free to remove some hills 11:17:54 <PublicServer> <Ryton> yeah, but it only checks the N and E side of the road 11:17:56 <PublicServer> <Ryton> I thought 11:22:49 *** Kangoo has joined #openttdcoop 11:25:00 <PublicServer> <Ryton> maybe we hit the # of industries limit? 11:25:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> there is a limit for that? 11:25:40 <PublicServer> <Ryton> yeah, at least in some wikis they refer to it 11:25:56 <PublicServer> <Ryton> (never subsidise primaries before factory etc is up) 11:26:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> where? 11:26:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004F60: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00004F60.png 11:26:14 <PublicServer> <Ryton> else it may not be able to build the latter 11:26:20 <PublicServer> <Ryton> I'll look it up 11:27:17 <PublicServer> *** persil has joined company #1 11:27:35 <persil> hi 11:27:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 11:27:57 <PublicServer> <Ryton> got it 11:28:00 <PublicServer> <Ryton> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Ruleset 11:28:10 <PublicServer> <Ryton> Never build industries until the entire map is connected. This is because the max industry limit could be reached accidentally, which would prevent the building of a necessary industry such as a factory or oil refinery. 11:28:23 <PublicServer> <Ryton> dont know how much it is, this limit, but there seems to be one ;-) 11:29:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 11:30:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> as long as the limit does not depend on map size, we are safe 11:32:37 <Chris_Booth[LP]> the limit is no longer in use 11:32:42 <Chris_Booth[LP]> its from the old days 11:32:50 <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah oke 11:32:56 <PublicServer> <Ryton> any idea then 11:33:01 <Chris_Booth[LP]> not sure how out dated that article is 11:33:04 <PublicServer> <Ryton> why Suoavik does not accept a bank? 11:33:10 <Chris_Booth[LP]> to small 11:33:54 <PublicServer> <Ryton> it has 10k inhabitants 11:34:05 <PublicServer> <Ryton> Mos has a bank, with less than that 11:34:07 <hylje_> too poor 11:34:17 <persil> mfb: I believe it's not a connection from Mos Cargo to Mos Pax, but a connection to Mos Transfer (for Gold). 11:34:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah, gold 11:34:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok 11:37:35 <PublicServer> <Ryton> with mos transfer, you mean transferium? 11:37:41 <PublicServer> <Ryton> ok thats an answer :-) 11:37:48 <PublicServer> <Ryton> still needs gold trains tough 11:38:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> needs a second station 11:38:05 <persil> add it a few minutes ago. 11:38:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> ... 11:38:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> one cargo per station 11:38:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> not 2 11:38:27 <persil> oups. sorry. 11:38:33 <PublicServer> <Ryton> yeah, always better to point to other station, else it can block 11:40:31 *** KenjiE201 has joined #openttdcoop 11:40:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE201 11:40:32 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest6561 11:40:32 *** KenjiE201 is now known as KenjiE20 11:40:56 <Chris_Booth[LP]> !password 11:40:56 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth[LP]: walnut 11:41:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00012659: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00012659.png 11:41:10 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo joined the game 11:41:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 'lo 11:41:17 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 11:41:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 11:41:55 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> morning 11:42:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> oO 11:42:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> why that 11:42:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> ... 11:42:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I dont know 11:42:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> don't kill the hills please 11:42:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> tunnels are max length as it is 11:44:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mfb: is that you building west of SLH 04? 11:45:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its me building at here no 11:45:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what is that going to be? 11:45:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> better SLH 11:45:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok 11:45:37 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> was hoping that 11:45:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> with the cargo station, SLH04 is a problem 11:45:48 *** Sigma has joined #openttdcoop 11:45:53 *** Guest6561 has quit IRC 11:46:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm, does not fit 11:50:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hhhm 11:51:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> hm? 11:52:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just tryinh to get LLRR into the hills without going above the snow, or killing the hill or making to long tunnels 11:52:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no 11:52:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> where? 11:53:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 11:53:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> wow that is large 11:53:27 <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (leaving) 11:53:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i was giving up on that idea 11:53:54 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> was going to go around 11:54:04 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> to !here 11:54:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 11:54:19 *** Ryton has quit IRC 11:54:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> looooong detour 11:54:28 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 11:54:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 11:54:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> the ML allows to build a new BBH ;) 11:54:43 *** Chris_Booth[LP]_ has joined #openttdcoop 11:54:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> or MSH 11:55:39 *** HandsofFate has joined #openttdcoop 11:56:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000165DA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000165DA.png 11:56:28 <Chris_Booth[LP]_> :'( 11:56:32 <Chris_Booth[LP]_> stupid internets 11:57:28 *** ODM has quit IRC 11:59:55 <PublicServer> *** persil has joined spectators 12:00:23 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has quit IRC 12:00:26 *** Chris_Booth[LP]_ is now known as Chris_Booth[LP] 12:00:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is an ugly SLH 12:06:47 *** Chris_Booth[LP]_ has joined #openttdcoop 12:07:28 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 12:09:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> CB: your MSH needs a second exit 12:10:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it does now 12:11:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000DDA6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000DDA6.png 12:11:22 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has quit IRC 12:11:29 *** Chris_Booth[LP]_ is now known as Chris_Booth[LP] 12:12:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> fixed 12:15:12 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop 12:15:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok so where SLH 04 is now I was going to build a half MSH 12:15:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is the plan 12:16:00 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> glad we have the same plan 12:16:09 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven joined the game 12:22:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> coal for me? ;) 12:22:52 <PublicServer> *** persil has joined company #1 12:25:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> there is a depot 12:25:45 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> oh 12:26:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001B5E2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001B5E2.png 12:27:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> too many pax trains on the SL 12:27:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oop 12:30:13 <planetmaker> !playercount 12:30:13 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Number of players: 5 (0 spectators) 12:30:16 <planetmaker> !revision 12:30:17 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Game version is r22727 12:30:29 <planetmaker> time for an update? 12:30:41 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> mos wont accept a bank? 12:30:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> version? 12:30:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can you give us 5 mins? 12:30:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> mos got one 12:30:48 <planetmaker> yes 12:30:59 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thanks PM ,3 12:31:07 <planetmaker> version, of course: last nightly 12:32:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> I hope it is not the last one :p 12:32:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> CL 12:32:25 <planetmaker> 22772 12:32:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> CL :( 12:33:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I like those tunnels 12:35:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 12:35:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what? 12:35:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> was a piece of rail missing 12:35:57 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that always happens 12:36:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I gtg BBL 12:37:00 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 12:37:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> wait, what? 12:37:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> kangoo: check the train orders at var mine please 12:38:02 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> tnx for tip 12:38:22 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has quit IRC 12:38:28 <PublicServer> *** persil has joined spectators 12:41:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000105E7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000105E7.png 12:48:56 <planetmaker> hm... maybe we should only update after today's nightly. Might be just as interesting :-) 12:49:16 <mfb-> an interesting new feature? 12:52:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> kangoo: at SLH02, there is an exit missing 12:53:06 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> what way? 12:53:06 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 12:53:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> see sign 12:54:11 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> right you were ;) 12:54:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> I think the small CL thing does not harm 12:54:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, missing entry signal 12:56:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002BBA3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002BBA3.png 12:58:02 *** real` has quit IRC 13:03:05 <PublicServer> *** Sigma joined the game 13:06:16 <planetmaker> mfb-: yes and no... but things worthwhile to get some tests 13:06:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> :) 13:06:59 <planetmaker> it's more under the hood, but like an iceberg bigger than what is visible ;-) 13:07:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> so more bugs than features ;) 13:08:06 <PublicServer> *** persil has joined company #1 13:08:14 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 13:11:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00021DCF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00021DCF.png 13:23:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> var vargo ready 13:23:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> eh... cargo 13:25:25 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol soooo many forests 13:26:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> usual thing 13:26:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00027729: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00027729.png 13:27:45 *** Godde has joined #openttdcoop 13:27:49 <Godde> !password 13:27:49 <PublicServer> Godde: thrice 13:27:56 <PublicServer> *** Godde joined the game 13:37:23 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo has left the game (leaving) 13:37:27 *** Kangoo has quit IRC 13:41:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000105E7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000105E7.png 13:53:15 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has joined #openttdcoop 13:54:57 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 13:55:00 <PublicServer> <Godde> hi there 13:55:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi Godde 13:56:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00037464: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00037464.png 13:56:52 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 13:57:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi Sigma 13:57:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Sylf: 13:57:28 <PublicServer> <Sylf> hey, can I add food train to the train yard? 13:57:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes 13:58:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> what does the !todo sign there mean? 13:58:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just things that we need to do ATM 13:58:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> might be a bit out of date now 13:59:05 <PublicServer> <Sigma> and why are the food/goods wagons purple ;p 13:59:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I was bored 13:59:30 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 13:59:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that is why I change the colour of everythng 14:01:27 <PublicServer> <Godde> low TF is a pain >.< 14:01:35 <PublicServer> <Sigma> it's fun :p 14:01:47 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It's the right way to go for every game 14:01:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> depends on what you are doing 14:01:56 <PublicServer> <Godde> remaking the SLH01 merger 14:02:00 <PublicServer> <Godde> moving it slightly 14:02:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sometime you need a bit of TF 14:02:26 <PublicServer> <Godde> i feel like i TF too much :P 14:02:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> and it would be less pain with TL3 ;) 14:02:36 <PublicServer> <Sigma> you do :P 14:02:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we always have TL 3 14:03:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> for a good reason 14:03:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no for a bad reason, as we are lazy 14:03:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> godde: you remove the last bit of balancing? 14:04:39 <PublicServer> <Godde> i dont see solutions like that :P Which is the reason why i tend to stay away from the mainline in any way possible 14:06:10 *** Progman has quit IRC 14:06:27 <PublicServer> <Godde> aaargh 14:06:30 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 14:06:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> combine entry+pbs prio 14:07:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> or that 14:07:17 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 14:07:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> erm WTF @ Súðavík Lakeside 14:08:06 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 14:08:16 <PublicServer> <Sigma> Chaos Style 14:08:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it seems to work though 14:08:18 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 14:08:29 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 14:08:32 <PublicServer> <Sigma> but it looks ugly :( 14:08:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so does your face :P 14:08:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> why? 14:08:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> ... 14:09:09 <PublicServer> <Sigma> I don't like the look of train reversers :p 14:09:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> kangoo: it is better to use only pbs for a triple tunnel 14:10:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> so trains do not pass the pbs signal until a tunnel is free for them 14:11:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000326EC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000326EC.png 14:12:24 <PublicServer> <Godde> uhm 14:12:29 <PublicServer> <Godde> that one coal train stopped 14:12:35 <PublicServer> <Sigma> yeah 14:13:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> that does not work 14:13:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> like that 14:14:37 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hhhm, maybe we should not put the coal in boats, and just add it to power plans? 14:14:39 <PublicServer> <Godde> that entire branch might need to be made into a LL_RR 14:15:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> or a second SLH 14:15:30 <PublicServer> <Sigma> it's jamming 14:16:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe LL_RR up to the hub is enough 14:17:02 <PublicServer> <Sigma> loool a ton is tied up to it too 14:17:11 <PublicServer> <Sigma> I just scrolled away from the busy part 14:20:51 <PublicServer> <Godde> that should clear up a few traffic jams 14:20:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> what? 14:21:03 <PublicServer> <Sigma> but now the tunnels are suboptimal 14:21:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 14:21:12 <PublicServer> <Godde> still better than it used to be 14:21:26 <PublicServer> <Sigma> 2 lines needs 4 tunnels :p 14:21:36 <PublicServer> <Godde> working on it :) 14:21:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> the area near !needs to be remade is a bit tricky... 14:22:08 <persil> maybe move the splt near SLH 01 north ? 14:22:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> and I would move the whole exit from the north 14:22:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> that 14:22:37 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 14:22:44 <PublicServer> <Godde> how about we stop the massive TFing and move the entire SLH? 14:22:50 <PublicServer> <Godde> to where the old merger used to be? 14:22:55 <persil> yes. 14:22:56 <PublicServer> <Godde> most of it could fit there 14:23:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> at least the exit 14:23:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> the other parts get easier too then 14:23:25 <PublicServer> <Godde> let the line from the east go through tunnels 14:24:01 <PublicServer> <Sylf> Did plan change for gold trains from the network plan? 14:24:19 <PublicServer> <Sylf> Network plan says to treat gold like coal 14:24:29 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but I only see coal being transported by ships 14:25:32 <PublicServer> <Sylf> er.... there are conflicting info within n 14:25:35 <PublicServer> <Sylf> network plan.... 14:25:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> not like that 14:25:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> better to go to the outside 14:26:13 <PublicServer> <Sylf> this game is too confusing 14:26:15 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 14:26:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> yes 14:26:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000328EF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000328EF.png 14:27:09 <PublicServer> <Sigma> so what's the plan now, get the lines from the E through the tunnel? 14:27:27 <PublicServer> <Sigma> and the splits along them ountain instead? 14:27:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> just 2 parts of a SLH 14:27:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> the one for north in the north 14:27:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> the southern part in the south 14:28:05 <PublicServer> <Sigma> :P 14:29:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> largest gap is the tunnel 14:29:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> not the small bridges 14:29:50 <PublicServer> <Godde> makes sense 14:33:30 <PublicServer> <Sigma> going to double that part? 14:33:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yep 14:36:13 <PublicServer> <Godde> this area is messy 14:37:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, different directions 14:38:04 <PublicServer> <Godde> yeah... 14:38:22 <PublicServer> <Sigma> why is there a crossing in front of the tunnels? 14:38:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> tunnels got the largest signal gap 14:39:00 <PublicServer> <Sigma> yeah 14:39:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> so trains with a gap of 10 can use the same small tunnel 14:39:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> and stop at the larger tunnel (without crossing) 14:39:49 <PublicServer> <Sigma> what's the benefit? isn't it also fine without the cross? 14:40:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> see my last text lines 14:40:16 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has left the game (connection lost) 14:40:16 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 14:41:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000324DE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000324DE.png 14:42:30 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 14:56:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000318E0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000318E0.png 14:59:10 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol all the coal trains are startintg to tax Ryton's station 14:59:25 <PublicServer> <Godde> they have been a problem for a long time now 14:59:49 <PublicServer> <Sigma> it should have more than 1 entry line 14:59:55 <PublicServer> <Sigma> but it's really cramped 15:00:05 <PublicServer> <Sigma> yeah 15:00:12 <PublicServer> *** persil has left the game (connection lost) 15:00:16 <PublicServer> <Sigma> major !Bottleneck :p 15:00:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe some coal trains to west 15:01:33 <Chris_Booth[LP]> coal trains can go to any esk station 15:01:47 <PublicServer> <Godde> The ships needed makes it a little tedious 15:02:17 <PublicServer> <Sigma> and the town can't even grow any more 15:02:19 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 15:03:03 <Chris_Booth[LP]> the town can with canals 15:03:19 <PublicServer> *** persil joined the game 15:03:20 <Chris_Booth[LP]> which would make the ships shorter 15:03:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf 15:03:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> the coal ships do not have shared orders 15:04:15 <PublicServer> <Godde> some of them do. My bad, I forgot to do that when i made them 15:09:54 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 15:10:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where dem girls at? 15:10:14 *** HandsofFate has quit IRC 15:10:29 <PublicServer> <Godde> nowhere near ttd? ^^ 15:10:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol 15:10:39 <PublicServer> <Sigma> yeah that'd be unlikely 15:10:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hhhm should we use HQ island as a teleporter? 15:11:00 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> to reduce boat numbers? 15:11:03 <PublicServer> <Godde> that is a possibility 15:11:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00034CDA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00034CDA.png 15:11:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> or add a land bridge for transport 15:11:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> land bridge is to high TF 15:11:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> 3 tiles? 15:11:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> 2 bridge ends, 1 corner 15:12:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 15:12:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bridges can only be 10 tiles Max 15:12:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 15:12:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> just a virtual bridge 15:12:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> teleport the cargo 15:12:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> but let some trucks run on it, too 15:13:23 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> would work 15:14:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> so just one corner of TF 15:16:20 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol I wonder how long a journey to Esk takes 15:16:23 <PublicServer> <Sigma> as a passenger 15:16:46 <PublicServer> <Sigma> mega train journey first and then a very slow ferry ride 15:17:15 *** Theos has joined #openttdcoop 15:20:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no reason why we couldn't grow the city on that island, and it would be less like cheating 15:20:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> without TF? 15:20:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> without massive TF? 15:21:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the bridges are already there 15:21:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just delete the eyecandy 15:21:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah right 15:21:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is nice 15:21:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or reduce the eyecandy 15:26:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003E99C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003E99C.png 15:26:20 <PublicServer> <Sigma> so Godde how about that SLH at ESK east :p 15:27:37 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> That will help !bottleneck 15:27:55 <PublicServer> <Sigma> yeah 15:28:04 <PublicServer> <Godde> nice 15:28:33 <PublicServer> *** Theos joined the game 15:28:41 <PublicServer> <Sigma> but it's still a busy place 15:31:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and it has a proper exit aswell now 15:37:10 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 15:37:20 <Maraxus> !password 15:37:20 <PublicServer> Maraxus: horned 15:37:48 <Maraxus> !password 15:37:48 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol now they're mostly battling for the W platforms of that station 15:37:48 <PublicServer> Maraxus: eroded 15:37:58 <PublicServer> <Sigma> because that's where most coal trains arrive 15:38:17 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 15:41:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00020ACD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00020ACD.png 15:45:26 <PublicServer> *** Sigma has joined spectators 15:47:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thats my mess entrance but it should be am improvement 15:47:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 15:47:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Eskifjörður East 15:47:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 15:48:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> added 2 extra platforms 15:48:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and made it kinda LL_RR 15:48:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting 15:51:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Eskifjörður North needs improving now 15:51:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> what is wrong there? 15:52:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah, to expand? 15:52:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its jams 15:52:17 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah 15:52:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> no 15:52:23 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> keeps waving 15:52:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> it can handle the passengers 15:52:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> and if the trains come in waves, that is not the problem of the station but of the train orders 15:54:01 <persil> there was a lot a waiting Pax at Var. I've just added a bunch of train. 15:54:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> cargo is nearly empty :( 15:54:36 <persil> Pax train are full load at Var. The waving effect would certainly disappear. 15:55:46 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 15:56:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000BEFE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000BEFE.png 15:56:52 <PublicServer> <Godde> would it be an idea to add an alternative merger !here, if i was to expand the LL_RR of the sideline? 15:57:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> that looks complicated 15:57:36 <PublicServer> <Godde> but possible 15:58:13 <PublicServer> <Godde> permission to try? ^^ 16:00:14 <PublicServer> *** persil has left the game (connection lost) 16:00:18 *** persil has quit IRC 16:00:52 *** persil has joined #openttdcoop 16:01:32 <PublicServer> *** persil joined the game 16:06:44 *** Kangoo has joined #openttdcoop 16:07:10 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo joined the game 16:10:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> that may be not final 16:11:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009B13: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009B13.png 16:12:39 <V453000> !password 16:12:39 <PublicServer> V453000: canary 16:12:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 16:12:50 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:13:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 16:13:12 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> hello 16:13:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, overflow for drops, awesome 16:14:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 16:14:21 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> ^^, 16:14:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> gotta love when people wreak havoc on things you teach them .. 16:15:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> 3/4 done :) 16:15:08 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> in my defence it used to look a lot more tidy.. ;) 16:15:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> the station is nice in the land, but the overflow is just completely useless :) 16:16:14 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> actually I have not yet seen more than 3 lanes of one station used at the same time.. 16:19:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> :) 16:19:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol "WAGON COLOURS ARE FUGLY" :D I guess people hate changes 16:24:38 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:24:46 <mfb-> @gap 5 5 16:24:46 <Webster> mfb-: For Trainlength of 5: 19 - 25 needs 4, 26 - 32 needs 5, 33 - 39 needs 6. 16:25:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm I don't care, it is a SL 16:25:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> can go above snow 16:26:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000517A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000517A.png 16:32:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> I fixed the CL there 16:32:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> near ESK109 16:32:48 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> ty 16:35:51 <PublicServer> *** Theos has joined company #1 16:36:14 <PublicServer> <Theos> o/ 16:36:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 16:39:49 <PublicServer> <Godde> can small trainstations be used to affect priorities? 16:40:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> if that is useful, yes 16:41:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003F84: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00003F84.png 16:41:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> this should be the default, but you can change it in the order list 16:41:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> upper left button 16:42:06 <PublicServer> <Godde> i see it :) 16:42:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> where do you need that? 16:42:29 <PublicServer> <Godde> the "implicit" orders - do they need to be removed? 16:42:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> you cannot remove them really 16:42:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> major jam near Var 16:43:17 <PublicServer> <Godde> wow 16:43:19 <PublicServer> <Godde> jam indeed 16:43:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> absolutis SLH... 16:43:31 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> hm. slh05.. 16:43:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> I remove that now 16:46:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> persil: stop that please 16:46:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> the SLH is crap 16:46:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> totally broken 16:47:06 <PublicServer> <mfb> we cannot use it 16:47:12 <PublicServer> <Theos> hes not on 16:47:18 <PublicServer> <Theos> im just tryin to fix it 16:47:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> SLH05= 16:47:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok 16:47:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> but persil is logged on 16:48:06 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> remove and build new one? 16:48:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> yes 16:48:11 <persil> mfb: what ? 16:48:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> your stations at SLH05 16:48:25 <persil> Ok 16:48:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh oh, I see ugly TF incoming ;) 16:49:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> and a CL issue 16:55:14 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 16:56:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005F50: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00005F50.png 17:01:30 *** alang has joined #openttdcoop 17:01:37 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 17:01:48 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi all 17:01:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 17:01:57 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 17:02:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Sylf: I tryed to clear up the plan a bit 17:02:23 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> since you said it was hard to read 17:02:47 <PublicServer> <Sylf> thanks 17:03:06 <PublicServer> <Sylf> So, according to the plan, we're missing the goods transport to esk 17:03:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I have to admit the coal part of the plan was ambigus 17:03:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> at the moment yes 17:03:47 <PublicServer> <Sylf> and eventually we'll have more ships. 17:04:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yep 17:04:08 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I'm gonna sit out for the rest of this game. 17:04:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or need to make ESK grow to drops 17:05:06 <PublicServer> <Sylf> hurray 17:05:12 <PublicServer> <Sylf> someone is reworking SLH 05? 17:06:10 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 17:11:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A75C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000A75C.png 17:13:44 <PublicServer> <Sylf> "MSH" is main station hub, right? 17:13:56 <PublicServer> <Sylf> So, there shouldn't be anything between that hub and a main station, right? 17:19:27 <PublicServer> <Godde> yay 600 trains 17:22:06 <Chris_Booth[LP]> 100% correct Sylf, that is why we use the Term MSH and BBH 17:22:18 <Chris_Booth[LP]> so that poeple don't build to near to station 17:24:15 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 17:25:02 <PublicServer> <Godde> i think the area between BBH Fask and SLH01 needs to be converted into LLL_RRR 17:26:12 <PublicServer> <Godde> just that one sidelines services 100+ trains 17:26:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003DB6C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003DB6C.png 17:28:12 <PublicServer> *** Godde has left the game (connection lost) 17:28:34 <Godde> !password 17:28:34 <PublicServer> Godde: fillet 17:28:46 <PublicServer> *** Godde joined the game 17:30:01 <PublicServer> <Godde> whole map screenshot = 100mb 17:30:01 <PublicServer> <Godde> good to know 17:33:48 <PublicServer> <Sylf> erm, whoever is rebuilding SLH 05, it's still missing connection to BBH Var a 17:34:32 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> will get to it 17:34:46 <PublicServer> <Sylf> we really should have destroyed BBH Var b full version and destroy Var a 17:37:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> the priority/exit overlap is bad, but the style is really nice 17:37:49 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> I figured with such low traffic, one could live with it 17:38:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> should work, yes 17:38:22 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 17:39:14 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> now only connecting it to Var a left. bah 17:39:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> I am working on it 17:39:46 <Chris_Booth[LP]> people are going to hate me after this plan 17:39:59 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I already do :P 17:40:33 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I don't know if I hate the scenario or the plan more 17:40:35 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 17:40:43 <PublicServer> <Godde> the scenario is horrible :P 17:40:59 <PublicServer> <Godde> the plan is ok, but more LLL_RRR would help 17:41:07 <PublicServer> <Godde> also being able to build on snow 17:41:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> there it is 17:41:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> even more LLL_RRR in the hills? 17:41:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038E97: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00038E97.png 17:41:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh wait 17:41:35 <Sylf> I also was struggling with TL5 CL3 17:41:45 <Chris_Booth[LP]> yeah that was strange 17:41:55 <Chris_Booth[LP]> CL3 to mean == turn every 3 tiles 17:42:02 <Sylf> I can't get used to it very easily 17:42:10 <Chris_Booth[LP]> but TL5 CL3 is turn every 3 if you go same direction 17:42:17 <Chris_Booth[LP]> or 5 tile is you trun back 17:42:30 <Chris_Booth[LP]> so you can make a CL3 O ring 17:42:36 <V453000> why dislike the scenario? 17:42:37 <Sylf> I mean, with 1-tile S curves 17:42:48 <Chris_Booth[LP]> but a S curve must have a 4 diagonal 17:43:02 <Chris_Booth[LP]> or 4 tile normal 17:43:32 <V453000> the scenario is quite interesting, the plan does not use it though 17:43:58 <Chris_Booth[LP]> ____/ˉˉˉˉˉˉ 17:44:21 <Chris_Booth[LP]> the plan does use everything it asks for 17:44:29 <V453000> no, the plan obeys what it asks for 17:44:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> use != implement 17:44:34 <V453000> but does not use it for its own good 17:45:28 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 17:45:40 <Chris_Booth[LP]> yep, but it is not my fault my plan won 17:45:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> hehe 17:46:03 <V453000> lol :) 17:46:04 <Sylf> hmm, I'm missing a point... the plan doesn't use what part of the scenario? 17:46:15 <Chris_Booth[LP]> Sylf: none, it uses it all 17:46:20 <Chris_Booth[LP]> but maybe not in the best way 17:46:23 <Sylf> implement, yes 17:46:29 <Sylf> but the use part? 17:46:55 <V453000> well the main point of the scenario is probably the permafrost, right? 17:47:03 <Chris_Booth[LP]> yep 17:47:11 <Chris_Booth[LP]> or the pax 17:47:50 <V453000> so now we have a big stuck ML in the valleys while we could use space on the hills where are just side lines ... where could have been some express traffic and ML could have been smaller in the valleys 17:48:07 <V453000> ->obey x use 17:49:26 <Chris_Booth[LP]> yes, but my plan has no express 17:49:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is the point I think 17:49:36 <V453000> and pax is? 17:49:37 <Chris_Booth[LP]> its all 100mph/160km/h 17:49:49 <Chris_Booth[LP]> slow like the goods 17:49:52 <V453000> express/lightweight/you get the point anyway probably 17:49:55 <Chris_Booth[LP]> same length as the goods 17:50:02 <Sylf> "express cargo" doesn't include food/goods? 17:50:19 <Sylf> Did'nt scenario say that even paper is express cargo? Or was that V's plan? 17:50:26 <V453000> no, that was just me 17:50:30 <Sylf> hehehe 17:50:36 <Sylf> mixing different information up 17:50:37 <V453000> that does not matter, how you define it, it just is ... 17:50:55 <V453000> but that is the point of working with the scenario and using it to your good imo 17:51:40 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 17:51:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 17:52:29 <V453000> not like it matters anyway, just make the game as good as it can get now, but I just think that the game is "just an ordinary keep-in-valleys game", while it could have been something more interesting as it has a scenario, but meh :) 17:53:45 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> LL_RR --> MSH Paper Mill has quite heavy traffic... 17:54:09 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> try watching train 550 - it seems to be a bit stuck in a circle... 17:55:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> took the wrong way 17:56:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00037897: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00037897.png 17:57:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf 17:57:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> so many trains on the wrong way 17:57:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> and big jam at MSH Papermill 17:58:26 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> they probably got lost when slh05 was disconnected. and catn get out of the overflow.. 17:58:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> they already can now 17:59:26 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> only through station...? 17:59:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> all gone 18:00:26 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> shouldnt there also be a join form varA->slh05? 18:00:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm true 18:01:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is bad 18:01:40 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> indeed it is 18:02:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> and the other line? 18:04:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 18:04:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> CL 18:04:54 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has quit IRC 18:05:01 <persil> Could someone check "!unequilibrqte merge": it's seemes to have much more traffic on the right tracks of both lines. 18:05:22 <persil> i've added a small "half-balancer" but not sure of my work. 18:05:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> looks lile it works 18:07:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> that was good 18:08:11 <persil> tks 18:10:51 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 18:11:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00011F2A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00011F2A.png 18:13:52 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 18:13:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 18:19:02 *** HandsofFate has joined #openttdcoop 18:26:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000114B2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000114B2.png 18:41:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003A32: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00003A32.png 18:42:52 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 18:45:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> what do I mean by what? 18:49:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> that was ok 18:49:47 <PublicServer> *** Sigma has joined company #1 18:56:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003A3F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00003A3F.png 18:57:40 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo has left the game (leaving) 18:59:53 <PublicServer> <Sigma> hmmm 19:07:51 <PublicServer> <Theos> check out train 8? 19:08:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> bad prio 19:10:08 *** alang has quit IRC 19:10:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> esk south :o 19:10:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah, same jam 19:10:28 <PublicServer> <Theos> :) 19:10:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> will dissolve now 19:11:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000144AF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000144AF.png 19:12:48 <PublicServer> <Godde> this game is more addicting than any mmo 19:12:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 19:13:00 <PublicServer> <Sigma> correct 19:13:08 <PublicServer> <Godde> damnit, I've been sitting here all day 19:14:05 <PublicServer> <Godde> out of curiosity - how old are you guys? 19:14:27 <PublicServer> <Theos> 25 19:14:33 <PublicServer> <Sigma> I'm 25 19:14:45 <mfb-> 24 19:15:02 <PublicServer> <Godde> Interesting 19:15:17 <PublicServer> <Godde> I'm 17 19:15:27 <PublicServer> <Sigma> I think we all grew up with this game in the 90s 19:15:28 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 19:15:32 <PublicServer> <Theos> sounds about right 19:15:36 <PublicServer> <Theos> tt for dos baby 19:15:36 <mfb-> me not 19:15:44 <PublicServer> <Godde> So did I, believe it or not! 19:17:50 <PublicServer> <Godde> oh shit, one of my forests are almost at 2k 19:17:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> see !wtf 19:18:16 <PublicServer> <Godde> laaazy! 19:18:31 <PublicServer> <Sigma> what was there? signal gap? 19:18:34 <PublicServer> <Godde> yeah 19:18:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> just wanted to show which strange things we have here 19:18:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> of ~10 tiles 19:18:49 <PublicServer> <Sigma> wow 19:18:51 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 19:19:05 <PublicServer> <Sigma> I love poring over such details 19:20:03 <PublicServer> <Sigma> it's easy to miss if a train prevents the autosignal 19:20:04 <PublicServer> <Sigma> I guess 19:20:08 <PublicServer> <Godde> Where can I put my suggestions for the next game? ^^ 19:20:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> plan or map? 19:20:24 <PublicServer> <Godde> scenario 19:20:27 <PublicServer> <Sigma> you can make a map plus scenario already 19:20:58 <PublicServer> <Sigma> if you want to survive I suggest a little less annoying than this map :p 19:21:00 <PublicServer> <Godde> any limitations i should be aware of? 19:21:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> add nice grfs, use the common settings 19:21:31 <PublicServer> <Sigma> don't make it much bigger than 512x512 19:21:31 <PublicServer> <Godde> I was thinking desert + monorails. I love monorails. 19:21:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is up the plans 19:24:17 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 19:24:33 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 19:24:37 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 19:25:03 <PublicServer> <Godde> so if i was to make a scenario - where would i upload it? 19:26:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00027D6D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00027D6D.png 19:26:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> ... 19:27:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> found the bug at BBH Var a 19:27:17 <PublicServer> <Godde> wtf 19:27:30 <PublicServer> <Godde> how the fuck did you notice? O.o 19:27:46 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 19:27:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> so I forced one to use that 19:28:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> and watched what happened 19:28:09 <PublicServer> <Godde> so... luck? ^^ 19:28:25 <PublicServer> <Sigma> that's one of the most annoying errors to track back 19:28:27 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 19:28:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, the balancer was a bit slow 19:28:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> so I watched the trains 19:29:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 19:29:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> something somewhere was not electrified, too 19:29:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> but maybe I just hit a prio line 19:30:28 *** pugi has quit IRC 19:30:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> never seen that part 19:30:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> prio from over what? 19:31:05 <PublicServer> <Godde> the line that is now backed up 19:31:17 <PublicServer> <Godde> had a prio that made it go left 19:31:19 <PublicServer> *** Sigma has left the game (connection lost) 19:31:27 <PublicServer> <Godde> now it is messed up :P 19:32:47 *** ryton has joined #openttdcoop 19:32:48 <Sigma> !passwrod 19:32:51 <Sigma> !password 19:32:52 <PublicServer> Sigma: wrings 19:32:54 <ryton> ty sigma :-) 19:33:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> godde: !bad can jam 19:33:06 <Sigma> :p 19:33:07 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 19:33:12 <PublicServer> *** Sigma joined the game 19:33:24 <PublicServer> <Godde> It worked as intended 19:33:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 19:33:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok trains do not use the extra line here 19:33:43 <PublicServer> <Godde> im not sure that was how it used to be 19:33:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> but it is dangerous 19:33:59 <ryton> I saw that CB upgraded ESK E, very nice 19:34:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is better 19:34:27 <PublicServer> *** Ryton joined the game 19:34:38 <PublicServer> <Sigma> it's slightly better 19:34:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> BBH South got a complete jam because of that 19:35:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> train entered prio 19:35:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> and got stuck 19:35:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> so the complete ML to ESK S was blocked 19:35:49 <PublicServer> <Ryton> oopz 19:36:03 <PublicServer> <Ryton> sounds like a long cue :-) 19:36:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> same thing at the old SLH05 19:36:13 <PublicServer> <Ryton> queue? or how do you write that ;-) 19:36:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> jammed the complete ML to var 19:36:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> queue 19:36:28 <PublicServer> <Ryton> ouch, total chaos :-) 19:36:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm the current jam is not much better 19:36:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> may need a 3rd line 19:41:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00037B43: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00037B43.png 19:43:47 <PublicServer> <Ryton> I like SLH07 :-) 19:44:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> :) 19:44:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> me too ;) 19:44:38 <PublicServer> <Ryton> the yetis will be thankfull 19:44:45 <PublicServer> <Ryton> that you respect their territory 19:44:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> no way to use that in the hub 19:45:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> even without the mountain I think 19:45:49 <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (connection lost) 19:45:50 <V453000> poor yetis are in that game? :) 19:45:51 <PublicServer> <Godde> whats up with the gold train unloading? 19:46:08 <PublicServer> <Sigma> hell yeah 19:46:14 <PublicServer> <Sigma> they ate an entire station 19:46:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> where? 19:46:16 <ryton> !password 19:46:16 <PublicServer> ryton: smarts 19:46:44 <PublicServer> *** Ryton joined the game 19:47:10 <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (connection lost) 19:47:22 <ryton> pff 19:48:02 <ryton> for some reason, I'm losing connection with this laptop a couple of times per hour, while another rarely fails on me 19:48:32 <ryton> is there a way to backtrack the reason for disconnection? (command in console) 19:48:53 <ryton> !password 19:48:53 <PublicServer> ryton: smarts 19:49:08 <PublicServer> *** Ryton joined the game 19:53:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> that does not help 19:54:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 19:56:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00037D4C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00037D4C.png 20:05:42 <PublicServer> <Ryton> I dont understand the reason 20:05:46 <PublicServer> <Ryton> of Goddes expansion north of SLH01 20:05:48 <PublicServer> <Ryton> no 20:05:48 <PublicServer> <Ryton> not one train can join, since the SLH01 fills all the gaps :-) 20:05:48 <PublicServer> <Ryton> like is nearly saturated 20:05:48 <PublicServer> <Godde> that has been happening recently 20:05:50 <PublicServer> <Ryton> line* 20:05:55 <PublicServer> <Godde> there was no room for LL_RR all the way, so i made an extra merger instead 20:05:55 <PublicServer> <Ryton> but even earlier, what was the difference? 20:05:55 <PublicServer> <Ryton> or the intention? :-) 20:05:55 <PublicServer> <Ryton> its not criticism, just interest 20:05:55 <PublicServer> <Sigma> Godde with your permission can I dismantle the spaghetti prio on top of the mountain? :p 20:05:55 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 20:05:55 <PublicServer> <Godde> not enough rrom (imo) for LL_RR at !this place 20:05:55 <PublicServer> <Godde> sure, just make it work ^^ 20:05:56 <PublicServer> <Sigma> I was earlier but forgot what I was doing 20:05:56 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 20:05:56 <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (connection lost) 20:05:59 <PublicServer> <Godde> some of the trains try to force themselves onto the northern merger, even though there are 2 stations they have to get through 20:06:03 <PublicServer> <Godde> its just a few trains 20:06:07 <PublicServer> <Godde> but they mess it all up 20:06:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> use a twoway 20:06:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> or track down the problem ;) 20:06:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> now it is broken 20:07:49 <planetmaker> !playercount 20:07:49 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Number of players: 6 (0 spectators) 20:07:51 <planetmaker> oh 20:08:03 <planetmaker> many people here :-) 20:08:03 <planetmaker> update? 20:08:30 <planetmaker> !clients 20:08:30 <planetmaker> !rcon clients 20:08:30 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #1 name: 'PublicServer' company: 255 IP: server 20:08:30 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #724 name: 'mfb' company: 1 IP: 109.193.229.113 20:08:30 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #756 name: 'persil' company: 1 IP: 88.167.164.29 20:08:30 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #769 name: 'Sigma' company: 1 IP: 86.95.197.9 20:08:30 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #748 name: 'Theos' company: 1 IP: 69.118.193.217 20:08:32 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #764 name: 'Godde' company: 1 IP: 85.164.205.42 20:08:32 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #776 name: 'Sylf' company: 1 IP: 72.209.135.147 20:08:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> why not 20:09:02 <planetmaker> !restart 20:09:02 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 20:09:13 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 20:09:24 <Sylf> the one with river capability? 20:09:40 <planetmaker> also, yes 20:09:47 <planetmaker> !rcon save continue 20:09:48 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Saving map... 20:09:48 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to continue.sav 20:10:02 <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 20:10:02 <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r22727. 20:10:02 <PublicServer> <Godde> sigma 20:10:04 <planetmaker> hm... ah. 20:10:07 <PublicServer> Server has exited 20:10:09 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 20:10:13 <Sigma> Godde: yes? 20:10:21 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 20:10:22 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 20:10:22 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 20:10:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 20:10:24 *** ryton has quit IRC 20:10:24 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 20:10:28 <Godde> the merger 20:10:31 <Godde> were you done? 20:10:39 <Sigma> I moved the balancing upstream 20:10:51 <mfb-> ~80 nightlies :o 20:11:05 <Sigma> !dl 20:11:05 <PublicServer> Sigma: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 20:11:05 <PublicServer> Sigma: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22804 20:11:06 <Godde> are we back online? 20:11:09 <planetmaker> revisions. Not nightlies :-) 20:11:13 <V453000> !dl win 64 20:11:13 <PublicServer> V453000: unknown option "win" 20:11:16 <V453000> !dl win64 20:11:16 <PublicServer> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22804/openttd-trunk-r22804-windows-win64.zip 20:11:21 <Godde> !dl win64 20:11:21 <PublicServer> Godde: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22804/openttd-trunk-r22804-windows-win64.zip 20:12:20 <Godde> !password 20:12:20 <PublicServer> Godde: signer 20:12:30 <Godde> !password 20:12:30 <PublicServer> Godde: signer 20:12:47 <Godde> it says "wrong password" 20:12:49 <Godde> !password 20:12:49 <PublicServer> Godde: signer 20:12:50 <Sigma> yup 20:12:56 <Sigma> first new feature? ;p 20:12:58 <V453000> !rcon server_pw 20:13:03 <V453000> !rcon set server_pw 20:13:10 <V453000> right :-D 20:13:23 <Godde> !password 20:13:23 <PublicServer> Godde: signer 20:13:24 <Godde> :< 20:13:31 <Sigma> lol 20:13:40 <Godde> my addiction needs to be neutered! 20:13:58 <V453000> hmf 20:14:09 <V453000> !rcon server_password 20:14:16 <V453000> hm 20:14:19 <Godde> Well, I should probably get going. Gotta prepare stuff for school tomorrow :/ 20:14:32 <V453000> school? 20:14:41 <Sigma> lol 20:14:42 <Godde> You heard me! 20:14:51 <Sigma> not everyone is an old geezer ;p 20:14:55 <planetmaker> school started here about this weekend 20:14:59 <V453000> OH 20:15:05 <Godde> school started last wednesday 20:15:06 <V453000> school starts here on 1/9 20:15:23 <Godde> but our picture is being taken tomorrow, i need to find stuff so that i can look like a hobo ^^ 20:15:34 <V453000> uh :) 20:15:42 <Sigma> lol 20:15:58 <V453000> when they took a picture of me I was in the about least representative state, so ... :) and I live 20:16:14 * Sigma slaps PublicServer around a bit with a large trout 20:16:17 <Godde> But I don't want to look presentable, while all my classmates look like hobos :( 20:16:19 <V453000> !password 20:16:19 <PublicServer> V453000: signer 20:16:29 <planetmaker> when I was like meeting friends yesterday morning I ran accross hordes of children heading for church - and wondered. Until I saw parents carrying the typical paper funnel given filled with whatever typically a present on the 1st day of school for a child in his / her 1st year 20:16:37 <V453000> !server_pw 20:16:48 <V453000> pm: the !rcon server_pw does not work anymore? 20:17:05 <V453000> it does on pz 20:17:20 <V453000> and server refuses to let people in with the current !password 20:18:39 *** Godde has quit IRC 20:19:26 <mfb-> it's not a bug, it's a feature 20:19:28 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has joined #openttdcoop 20:19:51 <V453000> well, thats nice :D 20:20:08 <Sigma> it's not a feature unless it serves a purpose :p 20:20:20 <mfb-> it does 20:20:53 <mfb-> it keeps out all who should not join the server 20:20:59 <mfb-> 100% efficient 20:21:29 <Sigma> rofl 20:22:01 <Sigma> atm it's not very discerning though 20:23:53 <mfb-> !players 20:24:08 <Chris_Booth[LP]> I am not sure if they still give them out, but you used to be able to ask for a keygen 20:24:18 <Chris_Booth[LP]> so that you didn't need the server password 20:24:47 <Sylf> you still need the server password 20:24:49 <V453000> I assume that is broken as well (?) 20:24:55 <planetmaker> !rcon set server_pw 20:25:03 <Sylf> the keygen thing is just automatically retrieving that password 20:25:10 <planetmaker> !password 20:25:10 <PublicServer> planetmaker: signer 20:27:48 <planetmaker> !rcon reset 20:28:31 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 20:28:42 <DayDreamer> !password 20:28:53 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 20:28:53 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 20:28:53 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 20:28:53 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 20:28:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 20:28:53 <Chris_Booth[LP]> DayDreamer: ^ no server 20:28:56 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 20:29:01 <DayDreamer> ah :) .. hi btw 20:29:33 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 20:29:33 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 20:29:33 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 20:29:33 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 20:29:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 20:30:03 <Chris_Booth[LP]> now its back 20:30:17 <Sylf> !password 20:30:17 <PublicServer> Sylf: murals 20:31:14 <Chris_Booth[LP]> server password and IRC/Keypasswor don't match :'( 20:31:18 <planetmaker> !screen 20:31:20 * ^Spike^ kicks Sylf 20:31:27 <^Spike^> you didn't check other universe? :) 20:31:32 <planetmaker> !rcon set password 20:31:43 <planetmaker> !rcon set max_trains 20:31:48 <Sylf> :P 20:33:03 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 20:33:12 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 20:33:12 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 20:33:12 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 20:33:12 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 20:33:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 20:34:10 <planetmaker> !password 20:34:10 <PublicServer> planetmaker: pulpit 20:35:00 <Sigma> nope :p 20:36:51 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 20:37:03 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 20:37:03 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 20:37:03 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 20:37:03 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 20:37:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 20:37:41 <planetmaker> !password 20:37:41 <PublicServer> planetmaker: alases 20:40:31 <Sigma> this is just an Autopilot problem right? 20:42:05 <^Spike^> well spamming the PS in pm isn't gonna help 20:42:08 <^Spike^> right Sigma? :) 20:42:20 <Sigma> I wouldn't know 20:42:26 <^Spike^> seems you Pmed it alot :) 20:42:41 <Sylf> higher server load = not helping 20:42:43 <planetmaker> nah. Just once maybe quite early ;-) 20:42:56 <^Spike^> just once.. or twice.. or 3 times.. or 10... 20:43:00 <^Spike^> i didn;t count the,... 20:43:01 <^Spike^> them* 20:43:04 <Sigma> pfft 20:43:07 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 20:43:15 <^Spike^> hope the hint is clear enough :) 20:43:36 <Sigma> I requested the PW a couple of times 20:43:56 <Sigma> and FYI I use PMs all the time t 20:43:59 <^Spike^> a couple... :) 20:44:05 <^Spike^> define a couple :) 20:44:14 <Sigma> no 20:44:38 <^Spike^> hey 10 times... i was spot on and i didn't even count them before :D 20:44:43 <Sigma> grats 20:46:00 <Ammler> could someone join the server? 20:46:23 <Sigma> if I have permission to request the password 20:46:56 <Ammler> rotors 20:47:11 <Ammler> Sigma: ^ 20:47:36 <Sigma> success 20:48:12 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 20:48:12 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 20:48:12 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 20:48:12 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 20:48:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 20:48:52 <planetmaker> !password 20:48:52 <PublicServer> planetmaker: teacup 20:49:07 <planetmaker> hm, wrong 20:49:13 <^Spike^> rotors still 20:49:13 <planetmaker> !password 20:49:13 <PublicServer> planetmaker: teacup 20:49:16 <^Spike^> i just joined 20:49:18 <^Spike^> with that pw 20:49:19 <Ammler> planetmaker: :-( 20:49:23 <Ammler> to early :-P 20:49:29 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 20:49:35 <KenjiE20> poof 20:49:35 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 20:49:35 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 20:49:35 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 20:49:35 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 20:49:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 20:49:44 <^Spike^> i wasn't using a ! command and that i still too early? :D 20:49:56 <planetmaker> well, this "too early" is really confusing 20:50:10 <planetmaker> how long should one wait? 20:50:15 <^Spike^> who volunteers to build a new AP? backdoors may be included.. but software might get denied :) 20:50:24 <Sigma> why is there a wait? 20:50:26 <Sigma> lol 20:50:37 <planetmaker> ^Spike^: not ap. Build a bot to connect to admin port 20:50:43 <Ammler> no 20:50:44 <planetmaker> that's made for it specifically... 20:50:46 <^Spike^> well that's what i meant :) 20:50:55 <Ammler> something is broken :-) 20:50:56 <^Spike^> and when i suggested that idea 1,5-2 years ago.. :) 20:51:03 <Ammler> what was last working rev? 20:51:08 <^Spike^> no there is no admin port! why would we!? :D 20:51:13 <Sigma> if I broke it I apologise :p 20:51:19 <planetmaker> !password 20:51:19 <PublicServer> planetmaker: shirks 20:51:41 <planetmaker> tsk... wrong 20:51:44 * KenjiE20 blames Sigma for everything 20:51:54 <Sigma> otherwise please keep the presumptuous attacks at bay ;p 20:52:16 <Ammler> no clue either 20:52:17 <^Spike^> just don't request the pw 10 times and we should be safe ;) 20:52:36 <planetmaker> hm... the password hashing bug is fixed... 20:53:18 <Sigma> normally 2 request is plenty 20:53:42 <planetmaker> !rcon set server_pw 20:54:01 <Ammler> there is no openttd output in ap 20:54:08 <planetmaker> !password 20:54:08 <PublicServer> planetmaker: shirks 20:54:47 <Ammler> planetmaker: nothing changed console based? 20:55:04 <planetmaker> not that I'm aware of 20:57:09 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/rev/fd58ae12078c <-- this is the only thing in that area... 20:57:23 <planetmaker> but not related to console 20:59:02 <planetmaker> !rcon set server_pw blub 20:59:37 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:01:54 <planetmaker> hm... works without ap+ 21:02:29 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:02:29 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:02:29 <PublicServer> Starting new game: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:02:29 <PublicServer> Landscape: normal 21:02:29 <PublicServer> Dimensions: 512x512 21:02:29 <PublicServer> Starting year: 1980 21:02:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:02:30 <Ammler> does someone still have the old rev sinstalled and could join pz? 21:02:31 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:02:37 <Ammler> would like to compare console 21:03:05 <planetmaker> !rcon load continue.sav 21:03:05 <PublicServer> planetmaker: _-0.7/brbvv0.7w.grf: NewGRF "Bobs Random British Vehicles" (GRFID 4D420000) uses GRF version 1, which is incompatible with this version of OpenTTD. 21:03:05 <PublicServer> planetmaker: dbg: [grf] bobs_random_vehicles_-0.8/brbvv0.8w.grf: NewGRF "Bobs Random British Vehicles" (GRFID 4D420000) uses GRF version 1, which is incompatible with this version of OpenTTD. 21:03:05 <PublicServer> planetmaker: dbg: [grf] close_down_banks_watertowerpow-v0.2/close down bank watertowerw v0.2.grf: NewGRF "Banks and Watertowers can close down" (GRFID 48420807) uses GRF version 1, which is incompatible with this version of OpenTTD. 21:03:05 <PublicServer> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found 21:03:05 <PublicServer> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found 21:03:07 <PublicServer> planetmaker: dbg: [grf] generic_european_train_set_ges-alpha2.1/ges_pa2.1.grf: NewGRF "Generic European Set (GES) Public Alpha 2.1" (GRFID 444A0201) uses GRF version 1, which is incompatible with this version of OpenTTD. 21:03:07 <PublicServer> planetmaker: dbg: [grf] long_vehicle_introduction_date-v1/long vehicle introduction datew v1.grf: NewGRF "Long Introduction Date for Trains and Cars" (GRFID 48420000) uses GRF version 1, which is incompatible with this version of OpenTTD. 21:03:09 <PublicServer> planetmaker: dbg: [grf] narvw-2.00/narvsw.grf: NewGRF "North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS) r225" (GRFID 045C030C) uses GRF version 1, which is incompatible with this version of OpenTTD. 21:03:09 <PublicServer> planetmaker: dbg: [grf] openttd_plus.0.1/ottdpp.grf: NewGRF "TD DP+ A set of trains designed to complement the default train set. This includes future maglevs and monorails as well as more default trains for desert/alpine." (GRFID 44460000) uses GRF version 1, which is incompatible with this version of OpenTTD. 21:03:11 <PublicServer> planetmaker: OpenTTD Game Console Revision 7 - r22804 21:03:11 <PublicServer> planetmaker: you have 2 more messages 21:03:14 <planetmaker> nice 21:03:26 <mfb-> done 21:03:28 <^Spike^> good enough Ammler? :) 21:03:51 <planetmaker> !rcon set max_roadveh 21:05:14 <Ammler> hmm, could be timestamp 21:05:26 <Ammler> pz does not have timesatamps enabled 21:05:39 <mfb-> who, where? 21:05:45 <mfb-> oh wait... my mistake 21:06:13 <planetmaker> but the cfg didn't change, did it? 21:08:26 <Ammler> yes, I have no clue 21:08:39 <Ammler> but disabling ts might be worth a try 21:12:01 <hylje_> mumble 21:16:16 <planetmaker> !password 21:16:16 <PublicServer> planetmaker: shunts 21:17:54 <planetmaker> !password 21:17:54 <PublicServer> planetmaker: mascot 21:18:31 <planetmaker> !rcon load continue 21:18:40 <planetmaker> !rcon pwd 21:19:41 <planetmaker> !rcon load continue.sav 21:20:25 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:21:22 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:21:22 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:21:22 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:21:22 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:21:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:21:49 <planetmaker> !password 21:21:49 <PublicServer> planetmaker: resins 21:22:05 <planetmaker> !password 21:22:05 <PublicServer> planetmaker: resins 21:22:21 <planetmaker> !rcon set server_password resins 21:22:40 <planetmaker> !rcon say hello 21:22:52 <planetmaker> !rcon save blub 21:22:56 <planetmaker> !rcon quit 21:23:02 <planetmaker> !die 21:23:07 <planetmaker> :-P 21:23:13 <Chris_Booth[LP]> thanks planetmaker, I hope it isn't to hard 21:23:42 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:23:56 <Chris_Booth[LP]> we have to appreciate the effor you guys put in 21:25:13 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:25:13 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:25:13 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:25:13 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:25:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:25:42 <planetmaker> !password 21:25:43 <PublicServer> planetmaker: wallow 21:26:00 <Ammler> ts isn't either 21:26:13 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:26:17 <planetmaker> grmbl 21:27:41 <Ammler> this is quite strange 21:27:43 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:27:43 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:27:43 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:27:43 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:27:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:27:52 <Ammler> maybe blitter? 21:27:58 <planetmaker> hm. 21:28:06 <planetmaker> let's try wo/patches 21:29:04 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:29:50 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:29:50 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:29:50 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:29:50 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:29:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:29:54 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:30:25 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:30:25 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:30:25 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:30:25 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:30:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:30:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004A39: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00004A39.png 21:31:12 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:32:20 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:32:20 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:32:20 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:32:20 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:32:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:33:04 <Ammler> !password 21:33:04 <PublicServer> Ammler: clefts 21:33:18 <Ammler> I have really no clue 21:35:18 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:35:25 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:35:25 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:35:25 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:35:25 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG212 (r22804) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:35:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:35:46 <planetmaker> this looks better... 21:35:48 <planetmaker> !password 21:35:48 <PublicServer> planetmaker: rubier 21:36:05 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:36:05 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 21:36:10 <planetmaker> so one of the patches broke 21:36:30 <Sigma> :o 21:36:43 <planetmaker> well. Then unpatched for now 21:36:54 <planetmaker> no screenshots 21:37:00 <planetmaker> I'm too tired to fix that now 21:37:06 *** `real has joined #openttdcoop 21:37:24 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:37:26 <PublicServer> *** Sigma joined the game 21:37:44 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:37:46 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 21:37:48 <PublicServer> <Sigma> good job :) 21:37:54 *** iklucas has joined #openttdcoop 21:38:01 <iklucas> !password 21:38:01 <PublicServer> iklucas: rubier 21:38:07 <persil> thanks ! 21:40:30 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop 21:40:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 21:41:02 <PublicServer> <Sigma> except you probably need a microscope to see the GUI now 21:41:04 <PublicServer> <Sigma> lol 21:41:14 <PublicServer> <Sigma> or patch it up :p 21:41:26 <PublicServer> <iklucas> gui? 21:41:36 <PublicServer> <iklucas> is that the signal screen? 21:41:38 <PublicServer> <Sigma> in openttd 21:41:53 <PublicServer> <Sigma> among other things 21:42:11 <PublicServer> <iklucas> general user interface 21:42:21 <PublicServer> <iklucas> ye sorry shud have known that:P 21:42:31 <PublicServer> <Sylf> wood drop is way over capacity 21:42:47 <PublicServer> <iklucas> nah its the same size as on my old screen 21:42:49 <PublicServer> <iklucas> the gui 21:43:04 <PublicServer> <iklucas> but all the rest around it is huge:D 21:43:14 <PublicServer> <iklucas> and i'm young, i got good eyes:D 21:44:00 <PublicServer> <iklucas> check !permafrost? 21:44:30 <PublicServer> <Sylf> what's wrong? 21:44:33 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It's not ML 21:44:40 <PublicServer> <iklucas> its a busy line 21:45:02 <PublicServer> <Sylf> fine, if you want.... 21:45:12 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has quit IRC 21:45:16 <PublicServer> <iklucas> but idk:P 21:45:43 <PublicServer> <iklucas> i'm letting this round pass 21:45:55 *** Mucht has quit IRC 21:46:49 *** Godde has joined #openttdcoop 21:47:13 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 21:47:14 <Godde> !password 21:47:14 <PublicServer> Godde: rubier 21:47:26 <PublicServer> *** Godde joined the game 21:47:47 <PublicServer> <iklucas> i'm off 21:47:50 <PublicServer> *** iklucas has left the game (leaving) 21:47:58 *** iklucas has quit IRC 21:48:36 <PublicServer> *** Theos joined the game 21:55:35 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 21:58:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> :( 22:00:25 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 22:02:23 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined spectators 22:02:25 <PublicServer> *** persil has left the game (connection lost) 22:02:29 <PublicServer> <Godde> is it just me, or is there lag? 22:02:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> lag 22:03:07 <PublicServer> <Sigma> grinding to a halt lol 22:03:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> wow that is the ugliest double bridge I have seen so far on PS :D 22:03:23 <PublicServer> <Sigma> where :O 22:03:25 <PublicServer> <Godde> who is using the server to download porn? -.- 22:03:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> and it has a CL problem 22:03:49 <PublicServer> <Sigma> haha 22:04:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm missing signal 22:04:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> better 22:04:32 <PublicServer> <Godde> damn you work fast! 22:04:59 <PublicServer> *** persil joined the game 22:05:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> watch V or XTC to see what fast means ;) 22:05:31 <PublicServer> <Godde> I'm guessing there are hotkeys for the different track directions? 22:05:41 <PublicServer> <Godde> never tried myself, just used the omnidirectional tool 22:05:43 <planetmaker> use autorail 22:05:43 <PublicServer> <Sigma> 1 2 3 4 :p 22:05:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> the autorail tool does the jib 22:05:44 <Sylf> 1,2,3,4 22:05:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> job. 5 22:05:58 <planetmaker> "a" 22:06:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> s signal, ctrl/r to remove and so on 22:06:03 <PublicServer> <Sigma> D destroy S signal 22:06:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> bad thing is that the depot cannot be rotated by hotkeys 22:07:07 <planetmaker> t, b, s, r, a, d - all important :-). And 9 and 7 22:07:30 <planetmaker> using mouse to select tools is slooooooow 22:07:41 <PublicServer> <Sigma> yeah nor can you preselect signals with hotkeys 22:07:44 <PublicServer> <Sigma> or can you? 22:07:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> ctrl+click on a signal 22:08:04 <PublicServer> <Sigma> yeah that's quickest 22:08:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> unless you build 10 identical signals 22:08:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> can happen at stations 22:08:35 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:08:36 <planetmaker> yes, no direct choice of signals 22:08:37 <PublicServer> <Sigma> and unless you're very lagged and keep overshooting :p 22:08:59 <planetmaker> Sigma: why over-shooting? I know the click number ;-) 22:09:05 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 22:09:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> or you cannot see a signal 22:09:11 <PublicServer> <Sigma> yeah 22:09:18 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 22:09:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> because there are 2 bridges in front of it :D 22:09:32 <planetmaker> mfb-: those are transparent 22:09:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> or other signals 22:09:44 <planetmaker> as are trees and industries and houses 22:09:49 <planetmaker> when building track ;-) 22:09:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> they are always transparent at me 22:10:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> when building 22:10:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> and even when not ;) 22:10:32 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 22:12:34 <planetmaker> hm... there's a heavy-duty backup script running on the server :S 22:12:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 22:21:01 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 22:21:07 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (connection lost) 22:21:48 <PublicServer> *** persil has left the game (connection lost) 22:23:57 <PublicServer> *** persil joined the game 22:25:22 <PublicServer> <Godde> wood drop is clogged 22:25:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> coming from the MSH 22:26:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> that needs a proper balancing 22:26:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> or, better, a 3rd line 22:26:27 <PublicServer> <Godde> I'm not volunteering! 22:26:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe tomorrow 22:26:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> or CB can do it 22:27:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> he built that unbalanced stuff 22:31:47 <PublicServer> <Godde> what is the max bridge length? 22:33:06 <Sylf> short 22:33:23 <Sylf> you can see it in advanced setting gui 22:33:55 <Sylf> !rcon set max_bridge_length 22:33:55 <PublicServer> Sylf: Current value for 'max_bridge_length' is: '8' (min: 1, max: 2048) 22:34:04 <Sylf> 8 22:34:15 <PublicServer> <Godde> k 22:40:49 <PublicServer> *** Godde has left the game (leaving) 22:41:03 *** Godde has quit IRC 22:42:13 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 22:46:43 *** mfb- has quit IRC 23:05:47 <PublicServer> *** Sigma has left the game (leaving) 23:25:41 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:29:34 *** Kangoo has quit IRC 23:30:31 <PublicServer> *** persil has left the game (connection lost) 23:30:31 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:32:27 <Theos> D: 23:38:28 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:38:28 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:38:29 <PublicServer> *** persil joined the game 23:38:53 *** Sigma has quit IRC 23:38:57 <persil> thanks !hello back 23:43:05 <PublicServer> <Theos> is ap suposta be setup to pause the game with only one player? 23:43:35 <persil> yes. 23:46:35 <PublicServer> <Theos> good to know