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00:05:24 *** Zyl has quit IRC 00:27:50 *** pugi has quit IRC 00:46:20 *** perk11 has quit IRC 01:38:29 *** Mucht has quit IRC 03:05:00 *** Eightbitpwny has left #openttdcoop 05:10:17 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop 05:11:36 *** Vinnie_nl has left #openttdcoop 06:17:40 *** KJ has joined #openttdcoop 06:18:36 *** aldor has joined #openttdcoop 06:18:42 <aldor> !password 06:18:42 <PublicServer> aldor: sirens 06:18:59 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 06:19:02 <PublicServer> *** aldor joined the game 06:19:42 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 06:19:54 *** KJ has quit IRC 06:28:51 <PublicServer> *** aldor has left the game (leaving) 06:30:50 *** aldor has quit IRC 06:43:32 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 06:43:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 07:01:25 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 07:14:48 <V453000> !password 07:14:48 <PublicServer> V453000: turkey 07:15:01 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:15:02 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 07:16:06 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 07:18:09 <Tray> !password 07:18:10 <PublicServer> Tray: turkey 07:18:56 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:18:56 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:18:56 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 07:18:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> morning :) 07:23:59 *** LXSJason has joined #openttdcoop 07:28:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003DCB8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003DCB8.png 07:30:36 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 07:30:36 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:42:22 *** aldor has joined #openttdcoop 07:42:26 <aldor> !password 07:42:26 <PublicServer> aldor: hatted 07:42:36 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:42:36 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:42:38 <PublicServer> *** aldor joined the game 07:42:42 <PublicServer> <aldor> hi 07:43:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010762: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00010762.png 07:50:43 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 07:50:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 07:54:35 *** aldor has quit IRC 07:56:40 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 08:05:41 *** hanf has joined #openttdcoop 08:11:07 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 08:39:45 *** hanf has quit IRC 08:54:32 <LXSJason> !password 08:54:32 <PublicServer> LXSJason: dopier 08:55:16 <PublicServer> *** LXSJason joined the game 08:59:09 <PublicServer> *** LXSJason has left the game (leaving) 09:09:43 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop 09:13:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00018162: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00018162.png 09:19:28 <Vinnie_nl> !playercount 09:19:28 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: Number of players: 2 (0 spectators) 09:19:57 <Vinnie_nl> !password 09:19:57 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: baboon 09:20:14 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 09:20:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 09:21:49 <V453000> morning 09:21:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :D 09:22:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice plan 09:23:00 <V453000> :) thanks 09:23:13 <V453000> should be fun with some "expectable" mess 09:23:29 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> bridge madness :) 09:23:42 <V453000> no, bridges wont be too frequent I think 09:23:50 <V453000> just in the few needed spots 09:24:05 <V453000> and they nicely use the swedish rails :) 09:24:09 <hylje> !password 09:24:09 <PublicServer> hylje: baboon 09:24:18 <PublicServer> *** hylje joined the game 09:24:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you want to use all the snowy area? 09:25:08 <PublicServer> <hylje> SNOOOW 09:25:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> only 2 more months and i have snow here :) 09:25:52 *** dihedral has joined #openttdcoop 09:25:57 <dihedral> howdi 09:26:04 <V453000> it should not be hard to use all that, mail generates in much lower rate than pax 09:26:07 <V453000> oh hi dih :) 09:26:11 <Vinnie_nl> hello 09:26:49 <dihedral> :-) 09:26:50 <dihedral> hello 09:27:06 <V453000> what brings you to us / what do you bring to us? :P 09:27:24 <dihedral> oh - i just wanted to say hello :-) 09:27:37 <V453000> :P success 09:27:58 <dihedral> i was looking at the blog and noticed that there were so many nicks i never saw before ... 09:28:03 <dihedral> which is quite sadening ^^ 09:28:32 <PublicServer> *** hylje has left the game (leaving) 09:28:47 <hylje> yeah, too bad for growth 09:28:48 <dihedral> seeing nicks in here like Phazorx, tneo, and Mucht ... that's quite nice :-) 09:28:54 <dihedral> hey ho hylje 09:29:16 <V453000> yes, they come once in a while :) 09:29:21 <dihedral> hehe 09:29:36 <dihedral> shame - i thought they were more active than 'once in a while' ;-) 09:31:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> time to go stable 09:31:21 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 09:32:03 <V453000> ah, well .. :) tneo even does some bits once in a while and Mucht came for a visit a few games ago :) still better than dead-inactive :P 09:33:29 <dihedral> .. :-) 09:33:31 <dihedral> hihi 09:33:32 <dihedral> yep 09:34:01 <dihedral> it always depends on what causes inactivity :-) 09:34:21 <V453000> :D 09:34:37 <hylje> i've only really been active for the past two or so games 09:35:14 <V453000> still :) 09:35:53 <dihedral> well that is still something :-) 09:36:02 <dihedral> i have not launched the game to play in years ^^ 10:03:21 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 10:03:21 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:03:22 *** Tray has quit IRC 10:14:38 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 10:15:26 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:15:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:15:34 *** LoPo has joined #openttdcoop 10:15:36 <LoPo> !password 10:15:36 <PublicServer> LoPo: spores 10:16:21 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:16:21 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:16:24 <PublicServer> *** LoPo joined the game 10:16:50 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 10:19:42 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:19:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:20:35 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi :P 10:21:16 <V453000> morning :) 10:23:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> last night i thought of an "upgrade" for my plan :P 10:23:30 <PublicServer> <LoPo> with RV 10:23:51 <V453000> lagfest just for the sake of stupid transfers 10:24:14 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :| 10:24:42 *** Xotic750 has joined #openttdcoop 10:24:57 <V453000> and quite honestly, transfering cargo like this is not too useful 10:25:15 <hylje> lag 10:25:16 <V453000> "just cause" and only makes problems because you need to adjust train amount for the TL7 10:25:17 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i was inspirred by PSG200 10:25:24 *** Kangoo has joined #openttdcoop 10:25:26 <Xotic750> Hi 10:25:30 <V453000> well psg200 was just to show it really 10:25:32 <V453000> hi Xotic750 10:25:39 <planetmaker> hi 10:25:41 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo joined the game 10:25:48 <V453000> but yes, there were many games before that were "just stupid transfer" 10:25:56 <PublicServer> <Kangoo> hello 10:26:02 <V453000> why not, but I personally dislike it as it does not bring anything useful :) 10:26:15 <Xotic750> !dl lin 10:26:15 <PublicServer> Xotic750: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-linux-generic-i686.tar.xz 10:28:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000229F3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000229F3.png 10:28:40 <PublicServer> <LoPo> well, maybe true, but i like games just because "its possible", and not particualy being "usefull" .... 10:28:42 <V453000> if you cared about CPU and said that you dont want to use short trains for the long trip delivery, fine, then lets use transfers and TL7 for long delivery. But why would you not use the TL7 for primaries then ... cl issues? who cares about that on SLs 10:30:05 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has left the game (leaving) 10:30:23 <V453000> sure, your opinion :) I just dont share it 10:31:39 <PublicServer> *** Kangoo has left the game (leaving) 10:31:39 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:31:41 *** Kangoo has quit IRC 10:32:34 <LoPo> :) 10:32:46 <LoPo> good :P then we will have allot of debates about that :P 10:33:18 <V453000> if you will have enough reasons to counter mine :) 10:33:53 <V453000> btw where is the image you talked about yesterday :P 10:36:43 <Xotic750> !password 10:36:43 <PublicServer> Xotic750: likens 10:36:54 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:36:56 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 joined the game 10:37:15 <Xotic750> So far so good :) 10:37:25 <Vinnie_nl> nice 10:39:23 <Xotic750> So what happens now? The game is paused and the instructions say to read the signs? 10:39:39 <Vinnie_nl> we are in the planning /mm stage 10:39:45 <Vinnie_nl> MoneyMaking 10:39:52 <Xotic750> ok 10:39:56 <KenjiE20> @quickstart 10:39:56 <Vinnie_nl> so we can vote for a game plan in some time 10:39:56 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 10:40:02 <KenjiE20> ^ you're answers are there 10:40:04 <KenjiE20> :P 10:40:08 <KenjiE20> your* 10:40:16 <Xotic750> I'm reading that 10:41:07 <Xotic750> so is it a game start with planes or trains? 10:41:21 <Vinnie_nl> planes to make money then only trains 10:41:30 <Vinnie_nl> @archive 10:41:30 <Webster> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive 10:41:33 <KenjiE20> same as 99% of the time 10:42:20 <LoPo> V: ill post it today 10:44:00 <Xotic750> So, planes, passengers and pick a couple of high population cities? 10:44:01 <V453000> LoPo: I figured, I was just annoying your arse :P 10:44:45 <planetmaker> @base 10 16 640 10:44:45 <Webster> planetmaker: 280 10:44:46 <KenjiE20> Xotic750: note the stage, and the ordering on @@quickstart 10:44:48 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 10:47:06 <Xotic750> I read the info on the wiki, I was told it was MM stage and I read all the links associated with it, do I move onto Planning? 10:47:17 <KenjiE20> @topic get 3 10:47:17 <Webster> KenjiE20: STAGE: Planning 10:48:13 *** Tray has quit IRC 10:48:42 <Vinnie_nl> !password 10:48:42 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: cavern 10:48:57 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:48:57 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:49:00 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 10:49:19 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 10:49:51 *** Dilandau has joined #openttdcoop 10:50:06 <Dilandau> hello 10:50:08 <Dilandau> !password 10:50:08 <PublicServer> Dilandau: cavern 10:50:09 <V453000> hi 10:50:28 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 10:50:40 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined company #1 10:52:06 <LoPo> V: you bastard! 10:52:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need a plan with normal line counts last games all had 7R_7L 10:52:09 <LoPo> :P 10:53:32 *** ChrisHC has joined #openttdcoop 10:54:53 <V453000> why dont you make one then :) 10:54:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i am thinking 10:55:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> give me 3 days :) 10:55:19 <V453000> but the mail network definitely wont get past LLL_RRR if even there 10:55:24 <V453000> 3 days for? :D 10:55:31 <Xotic750> So, I guess I am the stage "be patient" in the instructions? :) 10:55:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 3 days for thinking 10:55:47 <V453000> okay .. :) 10:56:03 <V453000> Xotic750: probably :) 10:56:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Xotic750: game will start in acouple of days 10:56:26 <V453000> Xotic750: you can check out some archived games, read articles or anything similar :) 10:57:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats it. no more windows pc for me ever. I hate it 10:58:09 <LoPo> รด_o 10:58:20 <LoPo> a.k.a. ? 10:58:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it keeps on crashing 10:59:09 <V453000> lol 10:59:20 <V453000> my win7 never crashes 10:59:27 <V453000> -currently- 10:59:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> don't jinx it :D 10:59:55 <Xotic750> can't remember the last time I used windows :) probably XP whenever that was 11:02:15 <V453000> LoPo: that image doesnt explain it I think :( 11:02:20 <V453000> (I might just be dumb) 11:02:25 <LoPo> lol :P 11:02:35 <LoPo> shall i explane it here? 11:02:44 <V453000> if you would 11:02:47 <LoPo> the poitn is "simple" 11:02:54 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (leaving) 11:03:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what image? 11:03:16 <V453000> see last wiki edits 11:03:20 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/5/5f/STAYINYOURLINE.png 11:03:41 <LoPo> the idea is that trains that need to travel longer will cross less "junctions" 11:03:53 <LoPo> i also added some text btw 11:04:03 <LoPo> brb 11:05:29 <KenjiE20> I don't see that working 11:05:51 <KenjiE20> I see lv1 filling up and jamming lv1 slhs and then trains using lv2 11:06:41 <LoPo> Lv1 trains should only take the "lv1" if it is needed to get of the track 11:06:58 <LoPo> anyway :P 11:07:05 <KenjiE20> I get the idea, lv1 trains use 1 and lv2 trains use 2 11:07:05 <LoPo> it is just an "idea" 11:07:16 <KenjiE20> and then lv2 only sees lv2/3 junctions 11:07:22 <LoPo> no no :P lv also use lv2 if needed to get to lv1 11:07:27 <KenjiE20> sorry 1/2 junctions 11:07:31 <LoPo> k 11:07:37 <LoPo> !password 11:07:37 <PublicServer> LoPo: skated 11:07:52 <PublicServer> *** LoPo joined the game 11:08:02 <KenjiE20> but I see the pathfinding seeing lv1 loops as 'better' and pushing lv2 trains onto that until it blocks 11:08:24 <V453000> why would you use that instead of "normal" SLHs? 11:08:57 <KenjiE20> V453000: I assume the idea is better flow for teir2/3 goods train 11:09:05 <LoPo> aha 11:09:07 <LoPo> also 11:09:20 <LoPo> why would a lv3 train get in the way for a lv1 train? 11:09:23 <LoPo> it should not 11:09:36 <LoPo> and building long prios... 11:09:39 <KenjiE20> because a lv3 can get to all lines 11:09:56 <LoPo> ye but in this case it should take the lv3 track 11:09:57 <KenjiE20> and track 1 would be 'better' in the eyes of pf 11:09:58 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined spectators 11:10:02 <V453000> why dont you build a separate netwrork for goods already 11:10:23 <LoPo> its about distance, not different crago 11:10:50 <V453000> okay, but how do you know which SLH goes where, dedicated SLH for cargo xx? 11:11:24 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is still a question 11:11:40 <KenjiE20> oh I see, so something joining on lv3 goes to lv3 loop, if it's exit is the lv2 after a lv3? 11:11:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> because trains should not take a lv3 track if the need to go to a lv2 hub 11:12:00 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so PF is inportant 11:12:10 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has left the game (leaving) 11:12:24 <V453000> I just dont understand why would you let trains choose from less lines 11:12:30 <V453000> that cant be effective in the long run 11:12:38 <KenjiE20> LoPo: plot some "planned" traffic lines over the top 11:12:44 <KenjiE20> that might clear it up 11:13:07 <V453000> or make a small savegame with signs what where why :) 11:14:21 <LoPo> k :) ill try to work it out a bit more :) 11:14:46 <LoPo> but i have a friend over so im a little afk from now on :) 11:14:50 <LoPo> see you guys later ! 11:14:58 <PublicServer> <aldor> hi 11:15:08 <PublicServer> <aldor> can you send a savegame? 11:15:29 <KenjiE20> of? 11:15:41 <PublicServer> <aldor> of LoPo desing network 11:15:47 <PublicServer> <aldor> to look around 11:16:05 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has left the game (leaving) 11:18:21 <LoPo> ? 11:18:27 <LoPo> you want that save game? :P 11:18:43 <PublicServer> <aldor> do you have built a network on your plan? 11:18:54 <PublicServer> <aldor> not the sheme) 11:19:00 <LoPo> its confidential 11:19:01 <LoPo> :P 11:19:04 <LoPo> not yet 11:19:06 <PublicServer> <aldor> ok) 11:19:36 <V453000> anyway, cyas :) school calls 11:19:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> bye 11:19:44 <PublicServer> <aldor> bb 11:42:05 <PublicServer> <aldor> brb 11:42:08 <PublicServer> *** aldor has left the game (leaving) 11:42:08 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 11:46:03 *** Dilandau has quit IRC 12:19:36 *** Dilandau has joined #openttdcoop 12:19:53 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 12:20:19 <Tray> !password 12:20:20 <PublicServer> Tray: cashew 12:20:44 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:20:44 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:20:44 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 12:43:18 *** aldor has joined #openttdcoop 12:43:25 <aldor> !password 12:43:25 <PublicServer> aldor: salute 12:43:42 <PublicServer> *** aldor joined the game 12:43:46 <PublicServer> *** aldor has joined company #1 12:51:27 *** aldor has quit IRC 12:52:32 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop 13:28:57 <ChrisHC> !password 13:28:57 <PublicServer> ChrisHC: wavers 13:30:44 *** UncleCJ has joined #openttdcoop 13:35:19 *** hanf has joined #openttdcoop 13:36:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello player 13:36:34 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 13:58:18 *** LoPo has quit IRC 14:00:38 *** Tray has quit IRC 14:00:44 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 14:00:45 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 14:06:39 *** hanf has quit IRC 14:17:11 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 14:17:11 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 14:17:33 *** Patrickov has joined #openttdcoop 14:17:36 <Patrickov> !password 14:17:36 <PublicServer> Patrickov: vilify 14:17:52 <PublicServer> *** Patrickov joined the game 14:17:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello Patrickov 14:18:04 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Hi 14:20:30 <PublicServer> *** Patrickov has left the game (leaving) 14:21:08 <Patrickov> Quite busy recently so not really much time to participate. Will join the voting phase though. 14:41:48 <Dilandau> !password 14:41:48 <PublicServer> Dilandau: pastes 14:42:16 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 14:42:29 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi 14:42:32 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wb 14:42:58 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 14:46:27 <Mazur> Ah, planing noce more. 14:47:36 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 14:47:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 14:55:45 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven joined the game 14:56:33 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> ola 14:56:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 14:56:46 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi 14:56:52 <PublicServer> <aldor> hi guys) 14:58:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035E88: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00035E88.png 15:08:32 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats a nice idea mazur 15:09:24 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> diagonals are also lll7rrr ? 15:10:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i think full and empty lines will be one way if i see it correct 15:12:01 *** Dilandau has quit IRC 15:12:09 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (connection lost) 15:13:28 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> MSH will not be a hub actually 15:13:43 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That should doit. 15:13:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00036482: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00036482.png 15:13:47 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hat 15:14:01 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> diagonal will go directly to the drop. and the drop exit splits into the two directions 15:14:08 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That should do it. 15:15:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, wasn't seeing the text area as my panel along the bottom covered it. 15:15:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Full diagonals and empty other spokes are single line to start with. 15:16:32 *** Dilandau has joined #openttdcoop 15:16:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And they are one way, yes. 15:16:42 <Dilandau> !password 15:16:42 <PublicServer> Dilandau: cymbal 15:16:45 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the drop gets only full trains from a diagonal or not? 15:17:13 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Print works gets from ring and diagonal. 15:17:16 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 15:17:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Food from Diag and paper from ML ring. 15:17:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh yeah like that yes 15:17:49 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (connection lost) 15:17:53 <PublicServer> <Mazur> TOwn drop dimilar. 15:17:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i was only thinking about primaries 15:18:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, that would come onoly via diagonals. 15:18:11 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (connection lost) 15:18:26 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 15:18:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but it will be a bit of a meyhem inside the ring 15:18:40 <hylje> !password 15:18:40 <PublicServer> hylje: cymbal 15:18:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> mayhem\ 15:18:53 <PublicServer> *** hylje joined the game 15:19:12 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, needs tight building and small SLs tro the diagonanals. 15:19:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 15:19:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's hte first challenge. 15:20:07 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (leaving) 15:20:14 *** Dilandau_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:24:43 *** Dilandau has quit IRC 15:26:34 <PublicServer> *** hylje has left the game (leaving) 15:28:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00036885: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00036885.png 15:31:12 <planetmaker> @base 16 10 5a 15:31:12 <Webster> planetmaker: 90 15:40:38 <PublicServer> *** aldor has left the game (connection lost) 15:48:21 *** Eightbitpwny has joined #openttdcoop 16:14:35 *** perk11 has quit IRC 16:14:55 *** aldor has joined #openttdcoop 16:14:58 <aldor> !password 16:14:58 <PublicServer> aldor: pawing 16:15:09 <PublicServer> *** aldor joined the game 16:23:03 <PublicServer> *** aldor has left the game (leaving) 16:26:51 <V453000> !password 16:26:51 <PublicServer> V453000: pawing 16:27:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 16:27:24 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:27:28 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 16:27:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> how are things? 16:27:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> great just earning some money 16:27:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> cant go much wrong eh :p 16:28:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not yet :p 16:28:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003DABB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003DABB.png 16:30:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting plan Mazur 16:30:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> no real hubs though :( 16:31:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> well sort of 16:31:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i thought so to but he mentioned the TL7 for secondaries 16:32:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> I suppose food/goods go on the outer ring? 16:32:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont really know how is that meant 16:32:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> but the primaries are nice and clear 16:35:45 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:45:00 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 16:52:52 *** Dilandau has joined #openttdcoop 16:55:40 *** aldor has quit IRC 16:56:15 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 16:56:16 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has left the game (connection lost) 17:20:29 *** Dilandau has quit IRC 17:22:00 *** pugi has quit IRC 17:22:49 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 17:28:58 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 17:30:26 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 17:37:13 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 17:37:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 17:43:58 *** aldor has joined #openttdcoop 17:44:03 <aldor> !password 17:44:03 <PublicServer> aldor: hinged 17:44:14 <PublicServer> *** aldor joined the game 17:50:46 *** Dilandau has joined #openttdcoop 17:52:07 *** aldor has quit IRC 17:53:19 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 17:53:20 *** Patrickov has quit IRC 18:01:40 <Tray> !password 18:01:40 <PublicServer> Tray: whaled 18:01:58 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 18:18:10 *** Mucht has quit IRC 18:18:58 *** Fuco has quit IRC 18:19:05 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 18:19:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 18:20:15 *** LXSJason has left #openttdcoop 18:21:46 <PublicServer> *** aldor has left the game (leaving) 18:25:33 *** hanf has joined #openttdcoop 18:25:57 *** LXSJason has joined #openttdcoop 18:26:26 <PublicServer> <Tray> Mazur what kind of train to you thought about? 18:26:36 <PublicServer> <Tray> smaller ones, faster ones ...? 18:26:55 <PublicServer> <Tray> slower not small 18:37:12 <V453000> I suppose the "normally" best ... aka 217kmh Acela 18:37:31 <V453000> maybe he meant otherwise, but I would expect this 18:41:29 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 18:41:33 *** Tray has quit IRC 18:44:00 <Dilandau> !password 18:44:00 <PublicServer> Dilandau: cleave 18:44:22 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 18:45:19 *** Dilandau has quit IRC 18:45:42 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (connection lost) 18:46:06 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 18:49:37 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop 19:00:24 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 19:29:39 *** UncleCJ has quit IRC 19:33:38 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop 19:34:57 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (leaving) 20:03:58 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 20:07:10 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop 20:10:39 *** Dilandau has joined #openttdcoop 20:13:08 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 20:15:28 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 20:15:51 <Tray> !password 20:15:51 <PublicServer> Tray: verier 20:16:16 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 20:32:03 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 20:32:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 20:32:17 <mfb-> hi 20:32:19 <mfb-> !password 20:32:19 <PublicServer> mfb-: staler 20:32:30 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 20:32:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 20:33:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> rivers in the snow :) 20:33:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you want ice? 20:33:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> no 20:34:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> just !this looks a bit odd 20:34:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah 20:36:01 <TWerkhoven[l]> !password 20:36:01 <PublicServer> TWerkhoven[l]: staler 20:36:15 <PublicServer> *** {TWerkhoven[L]} joined the game 20:36:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> tight building + low TF with TL7-trains on the ML in mazurs plan? hmmhmm 20:36:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ML is the ring so should be possible 20:37:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> with injection at the corners 20:39:12 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 20:39:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 20:39:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> and food trains are faster than farm trains at V's plan. so we have 3 networks there? 20:40:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> or just a network for food and direct lines for farms 20:40:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i guess so it said design is up to builder 20:41:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> the speed limits are the interesting thing 20:43:33 <V453000> mfb: can mean all random trains dumped on one network on the farm/food thing 20:43:45 <V453000> I dont expect that network to be anyhow massive, just supply towns to make them grow 20:43:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008441: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008441.png 20:43:56 <mfb-> ah 20:44:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> and why mail instead of pax? lower traffic? 20:45:38 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven[L] has left the game (connection lost) 20:46:20 <V453000> exactly 20:46:32 <V453000> these trains have 40 pax per wagon which isnt too high 20:47:04 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 20:49:58 <V453000> !password 20:49:58 <PublicServer> V453000: golfed 20:50:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:50:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> and hi :) 20:50:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 20:51:18 <LXSJason> !password 20:51:18 <PublicServer> LXSJason: golfed 20:51:48 <PublicServer> *** LXSJason joined the game 20:52:07 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> o/ 20:52:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi hi :) 20:52:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 20:53:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm .. should we start voting? 20:53:32 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> i already voted :p 20:53:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> fine by me 20:54:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> well plans can be added during voting anyway 20:55:54 <V453000> @stage Voting 20:55:54 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG218 (r22950) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 20:56:11 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> theres 1 minor detail i dont get but that doesnt matter :p I'll just be connecting farms to 2ndary network 20:56:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol :D 20:56:15 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> if V's plan gets trough 20:56:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, ask :) 20:56:46 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> fpp > food processing plant.. but uhm... how does food from there get to... where? 20:56:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> to towns, to all towns 20:57:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, somehow :) 20:57:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> via the secondary network ;) 20:57:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we gonna count binairy? 20:57:20 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> main connected with 2ndary or? 20:57:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> can be done in any way, 1 FPP for 3 towns, another FPP for 1 town, anyhow 20:57:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> through the food network most likely 20:57:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is all part of the supplying network 20:57:49 <Dilandau> !password 20:57:49 <PublicServer> Dilandau: golfed 20:57:49 <mfb-> to compare numbers, it does not matter 20:57:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> it can have separate lines, same lines, anything 20:58:06 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> so main main (which is above snow line) is only for mail 20:58:22 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 20:58:25 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> and food stay below snowline 20:58:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 20:58:34 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> ok :) thats clarified then :) 20:58:40 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi 20:58:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 20:58:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 20:58:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00033AD5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00033AD5.png 20:59:01 *** Zyl has joined #openttdcoop 20:59:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:59:25 <ChrisHC> !password 20:59:25 <PublicServer> ChrisHC: misted 20:59:28 <Zyl> !password 20:59:28 <PublicServer> Zyl: misted 20:59:42 <PublicServer> *** Zyl joined the game 20:59:47 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> have you lose one voting Board V453000 ? :p 21:00:02 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> think thistime my plan will win! 21:00:16 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> next to votingboard. 21:00:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wanker 21:00:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 21:00:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry, but inappropriate :) 21:00:49 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> (a) sorry :) 21:01:00 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> but i beat it wouldv beaten yours tho :p 21:01:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> more like a SP game than a MP game :P 21:01:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 21:01:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: how do you know :D 21:01:38 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> pp 21:08:43 <PublicServer> *** LXSJason has left the game (leaving) 21:12:46 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:12:47 <LXSJason> !password 21:12:47 <PublicServer> LXSJason: misted 21:13:00 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 21:13:00 <PublicServer> *** LXSJason joined the game 21:13:13 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> hmmm wondering what train/wagon to use for the foodnetwork 21:13:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you assume V will win 21:13:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000352C4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000352C4.png 21:14:31 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> it is true that assumption is the mother of all F****... but so far all games i actively participated 21:14:35 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> afaik he won 21:15:13 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Mazur is also very good this game 21:19:34 <Zyl> Hello, Im new here... 21:19:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 21:19:44 <V453000> hi :) 21:19:49 <Zyl> I want try with you guys 21:19:55 <V453000> be very welcome :) 21:19:58 <V453000> @quickstart 21:19:59 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 21:20:04 <V453000> this will help you get started :) 21:20:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> he is already ingame 21:20:23 <V453000> oh :) sorry 21:20:30 <mfb-> quickstart helps even then ;) 21:20:30 <V453000> well, it is still good to read that :P 21:20:48 <Zyl> well... i have some experience but never played here/coop game ;> 21:20:57 <pugi> have some fun a crash trains :D 21:21:00 <pugi> and* 21:21:07 <Mazur> Vinnie: Don't mislead the bastard, I'm not "very good". 21:21:25 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the plan is ok imo 21:21:36 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> lol 21:21:39 <pugi> oh, voting 21:21:41 <Zyl> as I can see... now its "planning time"? 21:21:44 <pugi> i'll check :D 21:21:46 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, you onlt mean the plan. That's another matter. 21:22:04 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> this something like my 4th? game i think.. and I'll probably still will be crashing trains :D 21:22:27 <PublicServer> *** Zyl has joined company #1 21:22:31 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Haven't crashed a train in ages. 21:22:41 <pugi> !password 21:22:51 <PublicServer> pugi: lastly 21:22:51 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> thats boring :p 21:22:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I mighrt have to put my other hobbies aside to join in again, this time. 21:23:00 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 21:23:37 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> im waiting to get selected for D3 beta... then I'll be a no-lifer.... 21:23:51 <PublicServer> <LXSJason> one of my friends has access already :( 21:24:46 *** Eightbitpwny has left #openttdcoop 21:25:50 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 21:28:36 <PublicServer> *** LXSJason has left the game (leaving) 21:31:48 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 21:34:17 <Mazur> V453000, I think you're right, it struck me as I was drawing out the plan. In the test game I started up but never finished I only used TL5 and the drop stations were fully connected to each line, so the corners had proper and complicated hubs, but that seems not necessary, come to think of it. 21:35:09 <V453000> what do you mean 21:35:45 <Mazur> No real hubs in my plan. 21:36:07 <V453000> ah 21:36:24 <V453000> well, 2 mergers, no split "hub" 21:36:27 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 21:36:29 <Mazur> Full trains go straight to station on diag, emtpies retuirn via ring. 21:36:33 <V453000> yes 21:37:29 <Mazur> And since outside the ring traffic goes along different routes, no hubs there, either. 21:38:19 <Mazur> But, of course, we can rotate the empties spokes to return the empties via the diagonal. 21:38:49 <V453000> well, sure you can but then you get just 2 separate networks 21:38:56 <Mazur> Indeed. 21:39:12 <Mazur> 5, actually. 21:39:25 <Mazur> 4 diag networks and one ring. 21:39:48 <V453000> wouldnt the diag network become 2 that way? 21:39:57 <Mazur> Hell of a design to go for a record in volume of something, though. 21:39:58 <V453000> if empties returned by the opposite direction diagonal 21:40:36 <Mazur> That could be interesting. 21:40:50 <V453000> no that would make 2 diagonal networks an 1 outer ring :) 21:41:15 <Mazur> Yes, but the outer ring would be busy and doubly used, still. 21:41:23 <Mazur> TL3 and TL7 21:41:40 <V453000> what would TL3 do on outer that way 21:42:17 <Mazur> Empties to entry point of opposite diag. 21:42:43 <Mazur> Unless you simply complete them corner to corner. 21:42:53 <V453000> why would you do that, you could simply send them right back to the diagonal :) 21:42:59 <V453000> yes yes :) 21:43:10 <Mazur> Because the diags aren;t the fuil length, yet. 21:43:23 <Mazur> :-) 21:43:39 <V453000> well they will probably reach close to that in the end anyway 21:43:44 <V453000> since there will be industries 21:43:45 *** Firartix has quit IRC 21:43:47 <V453000> probably :) 21:43:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000332D9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000332D9.png 21:44:07 <Mazur> Anyway, this idea had been sitting in my head for ages, and it had to come out. 21:44:32 <V453000> the idea is nice but I think it does not fit the map too well 21:45:05 <mfb-> that is my problem with the plan, too 21:46:22 <Mazur> Well, I can re-offer it when the map suits better. I have no qualms about suggesting a plan a second time. 21:46:27 <Mazur> :-D 21:46:48 <Mazur> Unless it makes it this time, when I won't. 22:02:40 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 22:04:15 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 22:05:43 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> gn 22:05:52 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (leaving) 22:05:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya 22:12:25 *** Dilandau has quit IRC 22:19:41 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 22:20:04 <Maraxus> !password 22:20:04 <PublicServer> Maraxus: gilded 22:20:18 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 22:21:00 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 22:26:08 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 22:27:11 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 22:32:25 *** mfb- has quit IRC 22:38:31 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:41:51 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 22:43:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00033ED7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00033ED7.png 22:45:08 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 22:45:20 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 22:45:24 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 22:48:32 <PublicServer> *** Zyl has left the game (leaving) 22:48:32 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:56:43 *** Vinnie_nl has left #openttdcoop 23:07:02 *** hanf has quit IRC 23:08:13 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 23:08:14 *** Tray has quit IRC 23:23:23 *** LXSJason has left #openttdcoop 23:23:39 *** LXSJason has joined #openttdcoop 23:31:06 *** Progman has quit IRC