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Log for #openttdcoop on 11th October 2011:
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06:18:42  <PublicServer> aldor: sirens
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07:18:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> morning :)
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07:42:26  <PublicServer> aldor: hatted
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07:42:42  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
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08:54:32  <PublicServer> LXSJason: dopier
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09:19:28  <Vinnie_nl> !playercount
09:19:28  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: Number of players: 2 (0 spectators)
09:19:57  <Vinnie_nl> !password
09:19:57  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: baboon
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09:20:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
09:21:49  <V453000> morning
09:21:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :D
09:22:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice plan
09:23:00  <V453000> :) thanks
09:23:13  <V453000> should be fun with some "expectable" mess
09:23:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> bridge madness :)
09:23:42  <V453000> no, bridges wont be too frequent I think
09:23:50  <V453000> just in the few needed spots
09:24:05  <V453000> and they nicely use the swedish rails :)
09:24:09  <hylje> !password
09:24:09  <PublicServer> hylje: baboon
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09:24:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you want to use all the snowy area?
09:25:08  <PublicServer> <hylje> SNOOOW
09:25:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> only 2 more months and i have snow here :)
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09:25:57  <dihedral> howdi
09:26:04  <V453000> it should not be hard to use all that, mail generates in much lower rate than pax
09:26:07  <V453000> oh hi dih :)
09:26:11  <Vinnie_nl> hello
09:26:49  <dihedral> :-)
09:26:50  <dihedral> hello
09:27:06  <V453000> what brings you to us / what do you bring to us? :P
09:27:24  <dihedral> oh - i just wanted to say hello :-)
09:27:37  <V453000> :P success
09:27:58  <dihedral> i was looking at the blog and noticed that there were so many nicks i never saw before ...
09:28:03  <dihedral> which is quite sadening ^^
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09:28:47  <hylje> yeah, too bad for growth
09:28:48  <dihedral> seeing nicks in here like Phazorx, tneo, and Mucht ... that's quite nice :-)
09:28:54  <dihedral> hey ho hylje
09:29:16  <V453000> yes, they come once in a while :)
09:29:21  <dihedral> hehe
09:29:36  <dihedral> shame - i thought they were more active than 'once in a while' ;-)
09:31:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> time to go stable
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09:32:03  <V453000> ah, well .. :) tneo even does some bits once in a while and Mucht came for a visit a few games ago :) still better than dead-inactive :P
09:33:29  <dihedral> .. :-)
09:33:31  <dihedral> hihi
09:33:32  <dihedral> yep
09:34:01  <dihedral> it always depends on what causes inactivity :-)
09:34:21  <V453000> :D
09:34:37  <hylje> i've only really been active for the past two or so games
09:35:14  <V453000> still :)
09:35:53  <dihedral> well that is still something :-)
09:36:02  <dihedral> i have not launched the game to play in years ^^
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10:15:36  <LoPo> !password
10:15:36  <PublicServer> LoPo: spores
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10:20:35  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi :P
10:21:16  <V453000> morning :)
10:23:19  <PublicServer> <LoPo> last night i thought of an "upgrade" for my plan :P
10:23:30  <PublicServer> <LoPo> with RV
10:23:51  <V453000> lagfest just for the sake of stupid transfers
10:24:14  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :|
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10:24:57  <V453000> and quite honestly, transfering cargo like this is not too useful
10:25:15  <hylje> lag
10:25:16  <V453000> "just cause" and only makes problems because you need to adjust train amount for the TL7
10:25:17  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i was inspirred by PSG200
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10:25:26  <Xotic750> Hi
10:25:30  <V453000> well psg200 was just to show it really
10:25:32  <V453000> hi Xotic750
10:25:39  <planetmaker> hi
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10:25:48  <V453000> but yes, there were many games before that were "just stupid transfer"
10:25:56  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> hello
10:26:02  <V453000> why not, but I personally dislike it as it does not bring anything useful :)
10:26:15  <Xotic750> !dl lin
10:26:15  <PublicServer> Xotic750: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-linux-generic-i686.tar.xz
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10:28:40  <PublicServer> <LoPo> well, maybe true, but i like games just because "its possible", and not particualy being "usefull" ....
10:28:42  <V453000> if you cared about CPU and said that you dont want to use short trains for the long trip delivery, fine, then lets use transfers and TL7 for long delivery. But why would you not use the TL7 for primaries then ... cl issues? who cares about that on SLs
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10:30:23  <V453000> sure, your opinion :) I just dont share it
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10:32:34  <LoPo> :)
10:32:46  <LoPo> good :P then we will have allot of debates about that :P
10:33:18  <V453000> if you will have enough reasons to counter mine :)
10:33:53  <V453000> btw where is the image you talked about yesterday :P
10:36:43  <Xotic750> !password
10:36:43  <PublicServer> Xotic750: likens
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10:37:15  <Xotic750> So far so good :)
10:37:25  <Vinnie_nl> nice
10:39:23  <Xotic750> So what happens now? The game is paused and the instructions say to read the signs?
10:39:39  <Vinnie_nl> we are in the planning /mm stage
10:39:45  <Vinnie_nl> MoneyMaking
10:39:52  <Xotic750> ok
10:39:56  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
10:39:56  <Vinnie_nl> so we can vote for a game plan in some time
10:39:56  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
10:40:02  <KenjiE20> ^ you're answers are there
10:40:04  <KenjiE20> :P
10:40:08  <KenjiE20> your*
10:40:16  <Xotic750> I'm reading that
10:41:07  <Xotic750> so is it a game start with planes or trains?
10:41:21  <Vinnie_nl> planes to make money then only trains
10:41:30  <Vinnie_nl> @archive
10:41:30  <Webster> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive
10:41:33  <KenjiE20> same as 99% of the time
10:42:20  <LoPo>  V: ill post it today
10:44:00  <Xotic750> So, planes, passengers and pick a couple of high population cities?
10:44:01  <V453000> LoPo: I figured, I was just annoying your arse :P
10:44:45  <planetmaker> @base 10 16 640
10:44:45  <Webster> planetmaker: 280
10:44:46  <KenjiE20> Xotic750: note the stage, and the ordering on @@quickstart
10:44:48  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
10:47:06  <Xotic750> I read the info on the wiki, I was told it was MM stage and I read all the links associated with it, do I move onto Planning?
10:47:17  <KenjiE20> @topic get 3
10:47:17  <Webster> KenjiE20: STAGE: Planning
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10:48:42  <Vinnie_nl> !password
10:48:42  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: cavern
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10:49:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
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10:50:06  <Dilandau> hello
10:50:08  <Dilandau> !password
10:50:08  <PublicServer> Dilandau: cavern
10:50:09  <V453000> hi
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10:52:06  <LoPo> V: you bastard!
10:52:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need a plan with normal line counts last games all had 7R_7L
10:52:09  <LoPo> :P
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10:54:53  <V453000> why dont you make one then :)
10:54:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i am thinking
10:55:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> give me 3 days :)
10:55:19  <V453000> but the mail network definitely wont get past LLL_RRR if even there
10:55:24  <V453000> 3 days for? :D
10:55:31  <Xotic750> So, I guess I am the stage "be patient" in the instructions?  :)
10:55:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 3 days for thinking
10:55:47  <V453000> okay .. :)
10:56:03  <V453000> Xotic750: probably :)
10:56:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Xotic750: game will start in acouple of days
10:56:26  <V453000> Xotic750: you can check out some archived games, read articles or anything similar :)
10:57:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats it. no more windows pc for me ever. I hate it
10:58:09  <LoPo> รด_o
10:58:20  <LoPo> a.k.a. ?
10:58:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it keeps on crashing
10:59:09  <V453000> lol
10:59:20  <V453000> my win7 never crashes
10:59:27  <V453000> -currently-
10:59:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> don't jinx it :D
10:59:55  <Xotic750> can't remember the last time I used windows :) probably XP whenever that was
11:02:15  <V453000> LoPo: that image doesnt explain it I think :(
11:02:20  <V453000> (I might just be dumb)
11:02:25  <LoPo> lol :P
11:02:35  <LoPo> shall i explane it here?
11:02:44  <V453000> if you would
11:02:47  <LoPo> the poitn is "simple"
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11:03:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what image?
11:03:16  <V453000> see last wiki edits
11:03:20  <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/5/5f/STAYINYOURLINE.png
11:03:41  <LoPo> the idea is that trains that need to travel longer will cross less "junctions"
11:03:53  <LoPo> i also added some text btw
11:04:03  <LoPo> brb
11:05:29  <KenjiE20> I don't see that working
11:05:51  <KenjiE20> I see lv1 filling up and jamming lv1 slhs and then trains using lv2
11:06:41  <LoPo> Lv1 trains should only take the "lv1" if it is needed to get of the track
11:06:58  <LoPo> anyway :P
11:07:05  <KenjiE20> I get the idea, lv1 trains use 1 and lv2 trains use 2
11:07:05  <LoPo> it is just an "idea"
11:07:16  <KenjiE20> and then lv2 only sees lv2/3 junctions
11:07:22  <LoPo> no no :P lv also use lv2 if needed to get to lv1
11:07:27  <KenjiE20> sorry 1/2 junctions
11:07:31  <LoPo> k
11:07:37  <LoPo> !password
11:07:37  <PublicServer> LoPo: skated
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11:08:02  <KenjiE20> but I see the pathfinding seeing lv1 loops as 'better' and pushing lv2 trains onto that until it blocks
11:08:24  <V453000> why would you use that instead of "normal" SLHs?
11:08:57  <KenjiE20> V453000: I assume the idea is better flow for teir2/3 goods train
11:09:05  <LoPo> aha
11:09:07  <LoPo> also
11:09:20  <LoPo> why would a lv3 train get in the way for a lv1 train?
11:09:23  <LoPo> it should not
11:09:36  <LoPo> and building long prios...
11:09:39  <KenjiE20> because a lv3 can get to all lines
11:09:56  <LoPo> ye but in this case it should take the lv3 track
11:09:57  <KenjiE20> and track 1 would be 'better' in the eyes of pf
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11:10:02  <V453000> why dont you build a separate netwrork for goods already
11:10:23  <LoPo> its about distance, not different crago
11:10:50  <V453000> okay, but how do you know which SLH goes where, dedicated SLH for cargo xx?
11:11:24  <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is still a question
11:11:40  <KenjiE20> oh I see, so something joining on lv3 goes to lv3 loop, if it's exit is the lv2 after a lv3?
11:11:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> because trains should not take a lv3 track if the need to go to a lv2 hub
11:12:00  <PublicServer> <LoPo> so PF is inportant
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11:12:24  <V453000> I just dont understand why would you let trains choose from less lines
11:12:30  <V453000> that cant be effective in the long run
11:12:38  <KenjiE20> LoPo: plot some "planned" traffic lines over the top
11:12:44  <KenjiE20> that might clear it up
11:13:07  <V453000> or make a small savegame with signs what where why :)
11:14:21  <LoPo> k :) ill try to work it out a bit more :)
11:14:46  <LoPo> but i have a friend over so im a little afk from now on :)
11:14:50  <LoPo> see you guys later !
11:14:58  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
11:15:08  <PublicServer> <aldor> can you send a savegame?
11:15:29  <KenjiE20> of?
11:15:41  <PublicServer> <aldor> of LoPo desing network
11:15:47  <PublicServer> <aldor> to look around
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11:18:21  <LoPo> ?
11:18:27  <LoPo> you want that save game? :P
11:18:43  <PublicServer> <aldor> do you have built a network on your plan?
11:18:54  <PublicServer> <aldor> not the sheme)
11:19:00  <LoPo> its confidential
11:19:01  <LoPo> :P
11:19:04  <LoPo> not yet
11:19:06  <PublicServer> <aldor> ok)
11:19:36  <V453000> anyway, cyas :) school calls
11:19:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> bye
11:19:44  <PublicServer> <aldor> bb
11:42:05  <PublicServer> <aldor> brb
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12:20:19  <Tray> !password
12:20:20  <PublicServer> Tray: cashew
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12:43:25  <aldor> !password
12:43:25  <PublicServer> aldor: salute
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13:28:57  <PublicServer> ChrisHC: wavers
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14:17:36  <Patrickov> !password
14:17:36  <PublicServer> Patrickov: vilify
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14:18:04  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Hi
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14:21:08  <Patrickov> Quite busy recently so not really much time to participate.  Will join the voting phase though.
14:41:48  <Dilandau> !password
14:41:48  <PublicServer> Dilandau: pastes
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14:42:29  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
14:42:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wb
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14:46:27  <Mazur> Ah, planing noce more.
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14:47:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
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14:56:33  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> ola
14:56:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
14:56:46  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
14:56:52  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi guys)
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15:08:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats a nice idea mazur
15:09:24  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> diagonals are also lll7rrr ?
15:10:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i think full and empty lines will be one way if i see it correct
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15:13:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> MSH will not be a hub actually
15:13:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That should doit.
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15:13:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hat
15:14:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> diagonal will go directly to the drop. and the drop exit splits into the two directions
15:14:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That should do it.
15:15:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, wasn't seeing the text area as my panel along the bottom covered it.
15:15:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Full diagonals and empty other spokes are single line to start with.
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15:16:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And they are one way, yes.
15:16:42  <Dilandau> !password
15:16:42  <PublicServer> Dilandau: cymbal
15:16:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the drop gets only full trains from a diagonal or not?
15:17:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Print works gets from  ring and diagonal.
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15:17:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Food from Diag and paper from ML ring.
15:17:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh yeah like that yes
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15:17:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> TOwn drop dimilar.
15:17:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i was only thinking about primaries
15:18:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, that would come onoly via diagonals.
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15:18:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but it will be a bit of a meyhem inside the ring
15:18:40  <hylje> !password
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15:18:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> mayhem\
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15:19:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, needs tight building and small SLs tro the diagonanals.
15:19:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
15:19:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's hte first challenge.
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15:31:12  <planetmaker> @base 16 10 5a
15:31:12  <Webster> planetmaker: 90
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16:14:58  <PublicServer> aldor: pawing
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16:26:51  <V453000> !password
16:26:51  <PublicServer> V453000: pawing
16:27:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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16:27:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
16:27:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> how are things?
16:27:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> great just earning some money
16:27:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> cant go much wrong eh :p
16:28:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not yet :p
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16:30:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting plan Mazur
16:30:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> no real hubs though :(
16:31:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> well sort of
16:31:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i thought so to but he mentioned the TL7 for secondaries
16:32:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> I suppose food/goods go on the outer ring?
16:32:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont really know how is that meant
16:32:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> but the primaries are nice and clear
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18:26:26  <PublicServer> <Tray> Mazur what kind of train to you thought about?
18:26:36  <PublicServer> <Tray> smaller ones, faster ones ...?
18:26:55  <PublicServer> <Tray> slower not small
18:37:12  <V453000> I suppose the "normally" best ... aka 217kmh Acela
18:37:31  <V453000> maybe he meant otherwise, but I would expect this
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20:15:51  <PublicServer> Tray: verier
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20:32:17  <mfb-> hi
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20:32:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
20:33:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> rivers in the snow :)
20:33:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you want ice?
20:33:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> no
20:34:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> just !this looks a bit odd
20:34:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah
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20:36:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> tight building + low TF with TL7-trains on the ML in mazurs plan? hmmhmm
20:36:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ML is the ring so should be possible
20:37:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> with injection at the corners
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20:39:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> and food trains are faster than farm trains at V's plan. so we have 3 networks there?
20:40:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> or just a network for food and direct lines for farms
20:40:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i guess so it said design is up to builder
20:41:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> the speed limits are the interesting thing
20:43:33  <V453000> mfb: can mean all random trains dumped on one network on the farm/food thing
20:43:45  <V453000> I dont expect that network to be anyhow massive, just supply towns to make them grow
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20:43:56  <mfb-> ah
20:44:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> and why mail instead of pax? lower traffic?
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20:46:20  <V453000> exactly
20:46:32  <V453000> these trains have 40 pax per wagon which isnt too high
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20:49:58  <V453000> !password
20:49:58  <PublicServer> V453000: golfed
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20:50:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> and hi :)
20:50:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
20:51:18  <LXSJason> !password
20:51:18  <PublicServer> LXSJason: golfed
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20:52:07  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> o/
20:52:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi hi :)
20:52:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
20:53:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm .. should we start voting?
20:53:32  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> i already voted :p
20:53:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> fine by me
20:54:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> well plans can be added during voting anyway
20:55:54  <V453000> @stage Voting
20:55:54  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG218 (r22950) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
20:56:11  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> theres 1 minor detail i dont get but that doesnt matter :p I'll just be connecting farms to 2ndary network
20:56:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol :D
20:56:15  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> if V's plan gets trough
20:56:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, ask :)
20:56:46  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> fpp > food processing plant.. but uhm... how does food from there get to... where?
20:56:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> to towns, to all towns
20:57:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, somehow :)
20:57:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> via the secondary network ;)
20:57:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we gonna count binairy?
20:57:20  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> main connected with 2ndary or?
20:57:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> can be done in any way, 1 FPP for 3 towns, another FPP for 1 town, anyhow
20:57:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> through the food network most likely
20:57:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is all part of the supplying network
20:57:49  <Dilandau> !password
20:57:49  <PublicServer> Dilandau: golfed
20:57:49  <mfb-> to compare numbers, it does not matter
20:57:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> it can have separate lines, same lines, anything
20:58:06  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> so main main (which is above snow line) is only for mail
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20:58:25  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> and food stay below snowline
20:58:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
20:58:34  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> ok :) thats clarified then :)
20:58:40  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
20:58:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
20:58:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
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20:59:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
20:59:25  <ChrisHC> !password
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20:59:47  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> have you lose one voting Board V453000 ? :p
21:00:02  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> think thistime my plan will win!
21:00:16  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> next to votingboard.
21:00:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wanker
21:00:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
21:00:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry, but inappropriate :)
21:00:49  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> (a) sorry :)
21:01:00  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> but i beat it wouldv beaten yours tho :p
21:01:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> more like a SP game than a MP game :P
21:01:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
21:01:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: how do you know :D
21:01:38  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> pp
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21:13:13  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> hmmm wondering what train/wagon to use for the foodnetwork
21:13:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you assume V will win
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21:14:31  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> it is true that assumption is the mother of all F****... but so far all games i actively participated
21:14:35  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> afaik he won
21:15:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Mazur is also very good this game
21:19:34  <Zyl> Hello, Im new here...
21:19:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
21:19:44  <V453000> hi :)
21:19:49  <Zyl> I want try with you guys
21:19:55  <V453000> be very welcome :)
21:19:58  <V453000> @quickstart
21:19:59  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
21:20:04  <V453000> this will help you get started :)
21:20:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> he is already ingame
21:20:23  <V453000> oh :) sorry
21:20:30  <mfb-> quickstart helps even then ;)
21:20:30  <V453000> well, it is still good to read that :P
21:20:48  <Zyl> well... i have some experience but never played here/coop game ;>
21:20:57  <pugi> have some fun a crash trains :D
21:21:00  <pugi> and*
21:21:07  <Mazur> Vinnie: Don't mislead the bastard, I'm not "very good".
21:21:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the plan is ok imo
21:21:36  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> lol
21:21:39  <pugi> oh, voting
21:21:41  <Zyl> as I can see... now its "planning time"?
21:21:44  <pugi> i'll check :D
21:21:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, you onlt mean the plan.  That's another matter.
21:22:04  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> this something like my 4th? game i think.. and I'll probably still will be crashing trains :D
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21:22:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Haven't crashed a train in ages.
21:22:41  <pugi> !password
21:22:51  <PublicServer> pugi: lastly
21:22:51  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> thats boring :p
21:22:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I mighrt have to put my other hobbies aside to join in again, this time.
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21:23:37  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> im waiting to get selected for D3 beta... then I'll be a no-lifer....
21:23:51  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> one of my friends has access already :(
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21:34:17  <Mazur> V453000, I think you're right, it struck me as I was drawing out the plan.  In the test game I started up but never finished I only used TL5 and the drop stations were fully connected to each line, so the corners had proper and complicated hubs, but that seems not necessary, come to think of it.
21:35:09  <V453000> what do you mean
21:35:45  <Mazur> No real hubs in my plan.
21:36:07  <V453000> ah
21:36:24  <V453000> well, 2 mergers, no split "hub"
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21:36:29  <Mazur> Full trains go straight to station on diag, emtpies retuirn via ring.
21:36:33  <V453000> yes
21:37:29  <Mazur>  And since outside the ring traffic goes along different routes, no hubs there, either.
21:38:19  <Mazur> But, of course, we can rotate the empties spokes to return the empties via the diagonal.
21:38:49  <V453000> well, sure you can but then you get just 2 separate networks
21:38:56  <Mazur> Indeed.
21:39:12  <Mazur> 5, actually.
21:39:25  <Mazur> 4 diag networks and one ring.
21:39:48  <V453000> wouldnt the diag network become 2 that way?
21:39:57  <Mazur> Hell of a design to go for a record in volume of something, though.
21:39:58  <V453000> if empties returned by the opposite direction diagonal
21:40:36  <Mazur> That could be interesting.
21:40:50  <V453000> no that would make 2 diagonal networks an 1 outer ring :)
21:41:15  <Mazur> Yes, but the outer ring would be busy and doubly used, still.
21:41:23  <Mazur> TL3 and TL7
21:41:40  <V453000> what would TL3 do on outer that way
21:42:17  <Mazur> Empties to entry point of opposite diag.
21:42:43  <Mazur> Unless you simply complete them corner to corner.
21:42:53  <V453000> why would you do that, you could simply send them right back to the diagonal :)
21:42:59  <V453000> yes yes :)
21:43:10  <Mazur> Because the diags aren;t the fuil length, yet.
21:43:23  <Mazur> :-)
21:43:39  <V453000> well they will probably reach close to that in the end anyway
21:43:44  <V453000> since there will be industries
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21:43:47  <V453000> probably :)
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21:44:07  <Mazur> Anyway, this idea had been sitting in my head for ages, and it had to come out.
21:44:32  <V453000> the idea is nice but I think it does not fit the map too well
21:45:05  <mfb-> that is my problem with the plan, too
21:46:22  <Mazur> Well, I can re-offer it when the map suits better.  I have no qualms about suggesting a plan a second time.
21:46:27  <Mazur> :-D
21:46:48  <Mazur> Unless it makes it this time, when I won't.
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