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00:00:56 *** hanf has quit IRC 00:05:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> what would the original pathfinding say to our networks? :D 00:05:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> FUUU 00:05:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :P 00:05:53 *** Dominik2000 has joined #openttdcoop 00:06:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> +next place for long bridges found 00:06:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah i saw you working on a tight spot 00:07:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you are really looking for places like that? 00:08:03 <Dominik2000> hello 00:08:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> well.. these two farms were so nice and hard to reach 00:08:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey dom 00:08:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> it is much more fun than connecting the next random primary somewhere 00:08:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> like the mines near grinfingburg 00:09:23 <Dominik2000> !password 00:09:23 <PublicServer> Dominik2000: mooted 00:09:42 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 joined the game 00:11:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> So would you like a PSG with even smaller islands to make a tight mayhem? 00:11:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmmm :D 00:12:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that would need some real balancing 00:12:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> low traffic and SL-oriented 00:12:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> point to multi 00:13:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no wait that is wrong 00:13:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> or PZ chaos 00:13:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000493: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000493.png 00:13:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> PZ had a chaos game last one 00:13:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but after 1 hour there was a plan :( 00:13:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> maglev with high line counts 00:14:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> lol 00:14:19 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it started as chaos game 00:26:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that lulwut mess on the tiny island, did you make that mfb? 00:26:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> yes 00:26:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :) 00:27:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> Fuwood. great town name 00:27:40 *** pugi has quit IRC 00:28:28 <PublicServer> *** 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http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000133DD.png 05:13:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000133DF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000133DF.png 05:28:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000002A3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000002A3.png 05:43:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000012B1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000012B1.png 05:55:10 *** KyleS has joined #openttdcoop 05:55:30 <KyleS> !playercount 05:55:31 <PublicServer> KyleS: Number of players: 4 (0 spectators) 05:55:35 <KyleS> !password 05:55:35 <PublicServer> KyleS: elapse 05:55:53 <KyleS> !password 05:55:54 <PublicServer> KyleS: simile 05:56:12 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 05:58:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000175B3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000175B3.png 06:09:13 <PublicServer> *** Maddox has joined spectators 06:13:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002D14B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002D14B.png 06:13:48 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (leaving) 06:13:48 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 06:13:56 <PublicServer> *** Maddox has joined company #1 06:13:56 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 06:28:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016DB6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00016DB6.png 06:43:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000173B5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000173B5.png 06:44:00 <KyleS> !password 06:44:00 <PublicServer> KyleS: rugged 06:44:26 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 06:46:44 <PublicServer> *** Maddox has joined spectators 06:58:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002E877: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002E877.png 07:07:16 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> need more trains >( 07:08:04 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> dope, wrong kb layout :P 07:13:46 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002E478: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002E478.png 07:15:06 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> nice farm shame about the trains :) 07:21:01 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 07:27:14 <PublicServer> *** Maddox has left the game (leaving) 07:27:29 <KyleS> ya :( 07:28:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> maybe there will be someone to increase the limit soon 07:28:46 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000A8E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000A8E.png 07:32:17 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 07:34:57 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 07:39:31 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 07:39:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 07:42:59 <KyleS> anyways, i'm logging off now 07:43:02 <KyleS> need sleepz 07:43:03 <KyleS> -_- 07:43:23 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (leaving) 07:43:23 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:43:28 *** KyleS has quit IRC 07:45:04 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined spectators 07:59:06 *** AndroUser has joined #openttdcoop 07:59:23 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 07:59:29 <AndroUser> hi 07:59:48 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 08:00:53 *** AndroUser is now known as Dominik2000 08:01:25 <Dominik2000> better :) 08:02:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :) 08:24:07 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 08:26:48 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 08:28:08 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:28:08 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 08:32:04 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 08:32:12 *** Eightbitpwny has joined #openttdcoop 08:38:43 *** Dominik2000 has quit IRC 08:50:43 *** pugi has quit IRC 09:20:48 *** ODM has quit IRC 09:45:02 *** Eightbitpwny has left #openttdcoop 09:58:06 *** nlhans has joined #openttdcoop 10:09:07 *** Tray has quit IRC 10:17:26 *** Qantourisc has joined #openttdcoop 10:17:28 <Qantourisc> Hello 10:18:35 <V453000> hi 10:19:09 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 10:19:09 <planetmaker> hi :-) 10:19:17 <planetmaker> @quickstart 10:19:18 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 10:19:29 <planetmaker> explains how to start playing here in a concise way ;-) 10:19:45 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> we are out of trains btw :) 10:19:51 <planetmaker> really? 10:19:55 <planetmaker> !rcon companies 10:19:55 <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Binnbridge Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 4271242549 Loan: 0 Value: 4275502003 (T:1000, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 10:19:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yeo, 1000 10:20:03 <V453000> are there no jams though? 10:20:03 <planetmaker> !rcon set max_trains 1250 10:20:03 <PublicServer> planetmaker: say "<V453000> are there no jams though?" 10:20:03 <PublicServer> planetmaker: [All] PublicServer: <V453000> are there no jams though? 10:20:12 <V453000> last time I was there were many jams 10:20:16 <planetmaker> oh :-) 10:20:21 <planetmaker> then those need fixing first 10:20:43 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> haven't seen any jaming recently 10:20:49 <V453000> usually a good thing to ask for before automatically doing what people want pm ;( 10:20:51 <V453000> Xotic750: ok :) 10:21:01 <planetmaker> I know 10:21:33 <Qantourisc> planetmaker: i read the rules, and they verry restrictive :) 10:21:41 <V453000> restrictive? :o 10:22:04 <planetmaker> well. It's coop. Thus we need some common agreement on how we play and interact 10:22:10 <planetmaker> or it'd be total chaos 10:22:30 <Qantourisc> atm i'm looking for a litle bit of chaos :) 10:22:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> more like organised rather than restrictive :) 10:22:58 <V453000> well sure but I feel like if one wants to play somehow friendly, all of the rules feel natural in my opinion 10:23:50 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but there are lots of unorganised/unrestrictive servers out there 10:24:05 <V453000> which are nowhere as good for a reason :p 10:24:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> if chaos is your thing 10:24:31 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I totally agree 10:25:01 <Qantourisc> the problem is ... does unrestritive servers, are usually destructive servers instead of friendly 10:25:59 <Qantourisc> openttdcoop is design and implement like a group 10:26:20 <Qantourisc> ok i'll give it a shot :)à 10:26:26 <V453000> depends how you define chaos. If chaos is meant to be an absolute mess where is no structure, no rules, and usually no reasons, then you can literally not get far, and this effect would multiply with the amount of people playing. If you define chaos as something without a plan evolving somehow, regarding some basic rules and experience (as done at the pro zone), then you can reach good results and fun without any real restrictions. 10:27:37 <Qantourisc> V453000: ow if i read the quickguide, i read everything is planned before the first track is laid (well skipping moneymakers ofcours) 10:27:45 <Qantourisc> personally i also like 10x cargo wait :) 10:27:47 <Qantourisc> *weight 10:27:57 <V453000> how is that setting related 10:28:05 <Qantourisc> not :) 10:28:08 <V453000> .. 10:28:13 <Qantourisc> but sure makes a few thing more intresting :p 10:28:22 <Xotic750> Chaos: a state of utter confusion or disorder; a total lack of organization or order. 10:28:31 <V453000> Xotic750: yes :D 10:28:32 <Xotic750> :) 10:28:33 <Qantourisc> ok organized chaod :) 10:28:35 <Qantourisc> *chaos 10:29:08 <V453000> still, for organized chaos game you need to have reduced amount of people and be sure that all of the people share your ideas and rely that none of them will do something majorly wrong 10:29:12 <V453000> -> pro zone material only 10:29:20 <V453000> simple as that 10:29:32 <Xotic750> that then has a sense of order :) 10:29:47 <Xotic750> and would only loosely be described as chaos 10:29:50 <V453000> kind of, I am talking about the "chaos" gametype we have 10:30:37 <Xotic750> I'm happy that I found the coop :) 10:31:03 <Xotic750> otherwise I would probably have quit already 10:31:22 <V453000> I cant image who could be unhappy about finding it :p 10:31:29 <planetmaker> hehe, Xotic750 :-) 10:31:33 <planetmaker> I know that feeling 10:31:35 <V453000> unfortunately I know majority of players is in that group :) 10:31:49 <V453000> pm: we all do I believe :P 10:31:55 <planetmaker> :-) 10:33:22 <V453000> is there any othe organized community? Like Realistic Builders Inc? 10:33:35 <Xotic750> I think I saw 1 other 10:33:38 <V453000> I guess there is nothing to think about in realism eh 10:33:49 <Xotic750> began with "L" 10:33:57 <Xotic750> can't remember the name 10:34:12 <V453000> Luukland? 10:34:22 <Xotic750> I think that would be it 10:34:24 <V453000> that is not a community that is a bunch of idiots 10:34:53 <V453000> I would bet not a single person there is able to use proper signals 10:34:58 <Xotic750> still more organized than any others I looked at, other than coop :) 10:35:34 <Xotic750> coop does take the game to the extreme 10:35:36 <V453000> I rather thought about something like a coop community that would develop realistic style of play, eventually for example write an article on theory about that 10:35:45 <V453000> coop does the game to the level the game offers 10:35:55 <Xotic750> indeed 10:36:45 <Xotic750> that's why it takes time to learn, rather than just play chaotically :P 10:37:02 <planetmaker> well. The coop wiki (and the openttd wiki as well) are free to accept any such content :-) 10:37:29 <V453000> pm: possibly, I was rather thinking whether there is any such content (which I doubt) 10:38:39 <Xotic750> I saw some "realistic" content here http://www.transporttycoon.net/ 10:38:40 <Webster> Title: Owen's Transport Tycoon Station (at www.transporttycoon.net) 10:38:48 <V453000> when I look outside openttdcoop, be it forums or #openttd channel, realism is the only accepted way for the majority. My question is what do I think about there and what do I write about it 10:39:19 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 10:39:39 <planetmaker> yes and no... http://uwe.s2000.at/ttdx/tutorial/realism.php?lang=en <-- but it's a bit past the usual audience as it mainly targets a dead game and NewGRFs hardly anyone uses ;-) 10:39:40 <Webster> Title: TTDX railways and other stuff - Tutorials - Playing realistically (at uwe.s2000.at) 10:39:51 <V453000> Xotic750: track composition which you "find" realistic is just some rail composition. But what is the thought process when playing in such a way? Binary brain realistic(1) x unrealistic(0) ? 10:40:01 *** real` has joined #openttdcoop 10:40:02 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:40:02 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 10:40:12 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 10:40:17 <pugi> okay, also working on my laptop :D 10:40:24 <hylje> using realistic signal distance (not 2) would be a long way toward kind of realistic layouts 10:40:43 <V453000> hylje: why is 2 unrealistic? 10:41:09 <Qantourisc> i'm confused 10:41:15 <hylje> generally signal distances are much longer than a single train, but yes some tight signaled sections do exist 10:41:16 <Qantourisc> is nonstop normally configured ok or not 10:41:57 <Xotic750> I don't think "realistic" runs as many trains :P 10:42:03 <hylje> long signal distance would let us do away with double bridges and tunnels 10:44:13 *** `real has quit IRC 10:44:23 <Xotic750> non-stop is on by default in coop I believe 10:44:38 <Xotic750> and should be on for coop 10:44:46 <Qantourisc> where do i set it ? 10:44:54 <Qantourisc> config file name also seems to have changed 10:44:59 <Xotic750> advanced options I think 10:45:04 <pugi> somewhere in the advanced options 10:45:05 <pugi> yeah 10:45:15 <Qantourisc> new_nonstop=true N 10:45:16 <Xotic750> no need to edit a file 10:45:29 <pugi> editing a file is easier when you're not ingame :P 10:45:47 <Qantourisc> ok found :) 10:46:40 <Xotic750> does anyone know if the 32bpp is still being developed? 10:46:49 <Xotic750> last version was 1.1.0 10:47:01 <Qantourisc> "Take care about the rating at primary industry stations. It should be between 65 and 75 per cent. Not more, since the production of the industry would fall down." 10:47:08 <Qantourisc> What ? more then 75and it dropes ? 10:48:57 <V453000> only with fluctuating economy 10:49:05 <V453000> which is an old model not used anymore 10:49:11 <V453000> or well, you could use it .. :) 10:51:59 <Xotic750> I wish the main code had the extra zoom levels of 32bpp version 10:52:13 <pugi> we could do a game with a new industry mechanics newgrf 10:52:21 <pugi> like firs or whatever they are called 10:52:28 <pugi> there was one more... 10:52:30 <pugi> with vectors 10:52:55 <Qantourisc> Version mismatch on public ? 10:53:07 <V453000> pugi: do you really want to make a plan for 60 industries? 10:53:12 <pugi> version you'll need is in topic 10:53:15 <pugi> V453000: yes :D 10:53:33 <pugi> Qantourisc: either use the !dl command 10:53:38 <pugi> or get openttd autoupdate 10:53:39 <V453000> no you dont pugi :) 10:53:57 <pugi> !dl 10:53:57 <PublicServer> pugi: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 10:53:57 <PublicServer> pugi: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r23044 10:54:03 <pugi> yes i do 10:54:22 <Qantourisc> so cvs ... 10:54:23 <pugi> maybe that would be something for prozone 10:54:31 <Qantourisc> pff this is tomuch of an effort to even get started ! 10:54:38 <pugi> nooo Qantourisc 10:54:50 <pugi> http://users.tt-forums.net/ottdau/ 10:54:54 <Qantourisc> And I didn't even download the required patches ... 10:55:03 <pugi> download this 10:55:17 <pugi> and get the opengfx/sfx/msx 10:55:17 <Qantourisc> no autoupdaters 10:55:26 <pugi> and select coop 10:55:28 <Qantourisc> + that one is broken 10:55:34 <pugi> is it? 10:55:38 <pugi> i use it 10:55:39 <Qantourisc> yes 10:55:49 <pugi> i use autoupdate 10:55:55 <planetmaker> which is broken? 10:56:21 <pugi> and with it i can start openttd/join the server/select company/enter password all with one click 10:56:21 <Qantourisc> still don't know what version i need . 10:56:22 <planetmaker> and what's so difficult in unzipping two zip files? 10:56:36 <planetmaker> where you both got the direct download link for? 10:56:42 <pugi> http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r23044 10:56:46 <Qantourisc> because it looks like .exe 10:56:47 <pugi> this is the version you'll need 10:57:05 <V453000> which you read in the quickstart I am sure 10:58:18 <planetmaker> Qantourisc: who except a few freaks (like me) wants to compile the game prior to playing? 10:58:51 <Qantourisc> so 33 patches behind trunk ? 10:59:11 <hylje> yup we change version when game starts 10:59:45 <planetmaker> Qantourisc: why would we update every day for a single map? 10:59:46 <Xotic750> me :) 10:59:54 <Qantourisc> planetmaker: you wouldn't 11:00:01 <Qantourisc> planetmaker: i just happen to have r23077 compiled :) 11:00:18 <planetmaker> that's why you get a binary download link... 11:00:18 <Xotic750> I mean I compiled from the git repo :) 11:01:05 <Xotic750> runs a little smoother than the binary on my pc :) 11:03:10 <planetmaker> might well be, yes 11:03:30 <planetmaker> and not a big surprise :-) 11:03:47 <Xotic750> I guess the binary was compiled on unbuntu 11:03:58 <Xotic750> whereas I have Fedora 11:04:32 <planetmaker> I'd rather bet it was compiled on debian... (the linux generic one) 11:06:07 <Xotic750> close relations 11:06:39 <Xotic750> closer than Fedora 11:08:53 *** pugi has quit IRC 11:11:02 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 11:11:39 <Qantourisc> so public or welcome ? 11:12:16 <Qantourisc> Hmmm welcome is not r23044 :) 11:12:19 <Mazur> Public. 11:12:44 <Qantourisc> I think i'll need to start making a collection of bins :) 11:13:10 <V453000> I even have some archived 11:13:16 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop 11:13:19 <V453000> some savegames do not work with new revisions anymore :) 11:13:30 <pugi> why would you archive them on your pc? 11:13:30 <planetmaker> hm, do they? 11:13:42 <pugi> you can always get the version you'll need online, don't you? 11:14:00 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 11:14:00 <planetmaker> 12:12 Qantourisc: I think i'll need to start making a collection of bins :) <-- you can't have too many ;-) 11:14:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 11:15:23 <Vinnie_nl> !password 11:15:23 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: repaid 11:15:30 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:15:32 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 11:15:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 11:15:40 <Xotic750> hi 11:15:56 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined company #1 11:15:56 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:16:30 <PublicServer> *** Qantourisc joined the game 11:16:47 <Qantourisc> hmm invisable bridges 11:17:01 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> press cntrl x 11:17:20 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Right i disabled then once :) 11:17:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need more trains. the mainline is not jamming 11:18:10 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> We need to jam it ?:/ 11:18:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> lol 11:18:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i want to get a full mainline that needs expansion 11:18:32 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> So what, look for places that have stuff free and add trains ? 11:18:50 <nlhans> !password 11:18:50 <PublicServer> nlhans: repaid 11:18:50 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> as in resources to ship free 11:18:51 <planetmaker> uhm... we want a good flow and a good service to all stations 11:18:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> kind of yes 11:19:04 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Just dupe the trains ? 11:19:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> with shared orders yes 11:19:29 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Ctrl-Dupe just to be sure i don't mess it up 11:19:35 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> a you added coal ? 11:19:53 <PublicServer> *** Hans joined the game 11:20:23 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> hmmm i notise a few stations don't have a lot of room for reserves 11:20:31 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> and they could clutter up ... 11:20:45 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Then again, it's one that is fully exploited 11:20:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> if they do they have to many trains 11:21:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there SLH 02 done 11:21:55 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> SLH whatata ? 11:22:58 <Qantourisc> Vinnie_nl: SLH02 ? 11:23:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it is a hub 11:23:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> on that hub there is a Sideline 11:23:25 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> on that sideline are primaries 11:23:31 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> they have had more trains 11:23:45 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> wow lw fps on soom out 11:24:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SLH 01 also more trains 11:25:12 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Why trainyard 11:25:14 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> what does it do ? 11:25:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> when you add another primary copy a train from trainyard 11:25:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> some special feautures are already been set 11:26:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so certain mistakes are not beeing made when building a new train 11:27:20 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> i see 11:27:40 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> service interval 50% 11:27:47 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> i usually put it at 5% :p 11:28:03 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> ooo breakdowns are disabled ? 11:28:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> And SLH 03 als more trains 11:28:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006F42: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006F42.png 11:28:54 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> a jam is a big breakdown :P :P 11:29:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i suspect Sidelines will jam soon 11:29:18 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> i know, breakdowns are half the effort !!!! 11:29:36 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> that is what makes making good tracks harder ! 11:29:43 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I'm just waiting for my SLH to fail 11:30:17 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it's gonna go peetong when the traffic getting beer gets too high :) 11:30:19 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Xotic750: witch one is that ? 11:30:30 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 11:30:42 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> 6 11:31:12 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> It's close to braking, at first sight :) 11:31:50 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Pfff this looks to advanced ... and not organized :) 11:31:57 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> AND NO breakdowns :) 11:32:16 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it's very organised 11:32:25 <Mazur> See the NETWORK PLAN. 11:32:36 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and you wouldn't want breakdown with the amount of traffic on here 11:32:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> lol, imagin the jams then :D 11:32:54 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> this makes the game easier in a way 11:33:04 <Mazur> WIth breakdowns on, trains would never reach their destinations. 11:33:19 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> never ? 11:33:25 <PublicServer> <Hans> everything would jam 11:33:27 <Mazur> Just wait until the lines are so packed the trains can hardly move. 11:33:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> we have 1097 trains running just now 11:33:59 <Mazur> That's about half of what will run in the end. 11:33:59 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> i know my pc chokes :) 11:34:11 <PublicServer> <Hans> yeah, i see empty tracks tho :P 11:34:45 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Added another coal train to SHaram woods, still has extra stock. 11:34:59 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> /xontic750 11:35:30 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> /xontic shall i keep adding trains in the NW area ? 11:35:41 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> vareful adding trains to those stations, I am working them up 11:36:03 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> ok where should i go then ? :) 11:36:24 <Mazur> That's "careful" for those of you who don't read 'typo". 11:36:25 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> pick a primary source that is not yet serviced 11:36:35 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> A good 11:36:37 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Found one 11:36:39 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and connect it to a SLH 11:36:49 <planetmaker> Qantourisc: only add trains, if the source station really needs it 11:36:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> thx M :) 11:36:57 <planetmaker> and always use shared orders 11:37:48 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Look at Q: <Here> where should i hook to ? 11:41:45 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> ping 11:43:00 <Qantourisc> planetmaker: define "really" needs it 11:43:16 <planetmaker> station rating < 50% 11:43:35 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Ow ok 11:43:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000101CC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000101CC.png 11:44:04 <planetmaker> of the pickup station, of course 11:44:56 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 11:46:00 <Qantourisc> am at the server browsing ... 11:46:01 <Qantourisc> now what 11:47:35 <planetmaker> iew... this rip-off illegal nogrid newgrf again 11:48:07 <PublicServer> <Hans> what's wrong with that? 11:48:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> opengfx landscape the only one? 11:48:13 <Qantourisc> hmmm ? 11:48:35 <Qantourisc> and "illgial" 11:48:37 <planetmaker> hans: it just stole the sprites :-) 11:48:51 <PublicServer> <Hans> oh, from the original game. 11:49:02 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> ow illagal yes :) 11:49:03 <planetmaker> it's like publishing the ttd base set for free and putting a license and claiming you made it 11:49:50 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Xotic750: where do I connect to at "Q: <Here>" 11:50:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Qantourisc: please start all signs with an ! 11:50:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this way we all know it is a sign and we can look it up real fast 11:51:00 <PublicServer> * Qantourisc digs the sign specs 11:51:11 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> into SLH03 11:51:18 <planetmaker> Qantourisc: just when you quote them here 11:51:26 <Qantourisc> aa :) 11:51:31 <planetmaker> though starting them ingame with a ! is also easier to find them in the list 11:51:33 <Qantourisc> !Q: <here> 11:51:57 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 11:53:08 <Xotic750> connect like the other local station in that area, into the side line hub (SLH) 03 11:53:33 <planetmaker> I'd say rather "just connect it to the side line" 11:53:58 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> I can just hook it up ? 11:54:12 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep, that probably beter terminology :) 11:54:18 <PublicServer> *** Hans has joined company #1 11:54:30 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> DO i need priority / speed tricks ? 11:54:32 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Or just hook ? 11:54:40 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> I just need to make sure i don't go trough a station right ? 11:55:03 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> And i need to sign the primarty resource with /Qantourisc right ? 11:55:27 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yes, sign your work 11:55:43 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Can i lower i tiny dot ? in the landscape ? 11:55:52 <Mazur> Just hook, yes, and yes. 11:55:58 <Xotic750> look at how some of the other stations are done to get an idea 11:56:12 <Xotic750> :) 11:57:04 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> well lt's tty then :) 11:57:08 <Mazur> And yes, minimal terraforming is almost always allowed, I've not yet played a game with _no_ terraforming. 11:58:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005F8B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00005F8B.png 11:58:55 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> no that's not a primary resource 11:58:57 <Mazur> And Qantourisc, whenever you are in doubt, the details are in hte NETWORK PLAN. 11:59:08 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Oil not ? 11:59:10 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that's an oil refinery 11:59:14 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> ow wait 11:59:18 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Requires :) 11:59:20 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Oeps 11:59:23 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Back to the coal mine then :) 12:02:52 <Mazur> "Working down the coal mine, going down, down, down. 12:02:54 <Mazur> " 12:04:06 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 12:04:20 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that's the sound of the men working on the chain gang :P 12:04:20 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> What bridge type ? 12:04:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the one that allows 230 kmph 12:04:35 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> 230km/h or greater 12:04:50 <Mazur> Anuy bridge allowing the engines we use to go at full speed. 12:04:53 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> andnhow do i place the "tubes ? 12:05:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> tube bridges need to be 4 tiles or more 12:05:24 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> a ok 12:06:45 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Dam i must study my signs again 12:07:49 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> I mean signals 12:09:00 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> A ok got it for this one 12:09:03 <Mazur> You can check another primary to see how we usually do it. 12:09:14 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> I'd like to know WHAT i'm copying :) 12:09:20 <Mazur> Tried and tested methods. 12:09:26 <Mazur> That would be nice, yes. 12:10:09 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> dam signs are too small 12:10:58 <planetmaker> set a bigger font in your cfg 12:11:14 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> I mean signals 12:11:20 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> And fonts can get bigger 12:11:24 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> good i'll change that RIGHT NOW :) 12:11:27 <PublicServer> *** Qantourisc has left the game (leaving) 12:11:56 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> seeing the signals is my biggest problem, colour blind, that's why I like the 32bpp version 12:12:18 <Qantourisc> !password 12:12:18 <PublicServer> Qantourisc: eighty 12:12:26 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and lack of experience of course :P 12:12:38 <Qantourisc> ooo passwords rotate ! 12:12:58 <PublicServer> *** Qantourisc joined the game 12:13:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it really is your first time here i guess 12:13:22 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> second 12:13:30 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> but never got far 12:13:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001E8C4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001E8C4.png 12:14:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm great slonfidge woods is broken 12:14:49 <Mazur> And Xotic750: I was singing this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsoa1wHJT2E 12:16:07 <Xotic750> similar type of thing :) 12:17:25 <Mazur> Yeah, but more memorable. 12:17:29 <Mazur> ;-P 12:17:38 <Xotic750> and I was singing this one 12:17:39 <Xotic750> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2XHYKWLGTg 12:17:43 <Xotic750> :P 12:20:14 <Mazur> Well done, you, 12:21:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice i broke SLH 05 :) 12:21:28 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Do we favor an extra sign, or less siggns ? 12:21:28 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> damn depot is slow 12:21:49 <Mazur> SIgns are almost always good. 12:22:33 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 12:23:05 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Please approve new track 12:23:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Looks fine to me, at a glance. 12:23:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> one CL 12:23:41 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> good 12:23:43 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> one CL ? 12:23:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> curvelength 12:23:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> needs to be 3 tiles or more 12:23:59 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Curve Length issue. 12:24:23 <PublicServer> <Mazur> One exclamation point issue, Vinnie. I fixed it. 12:24:29 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> If i'm allowed to destoyed the land more i can 12:25:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> easy like that 12:25:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> gotta go for a while, cya soon :) 12:25:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> if you would do it 12:25:16 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> So i'm allowed to ruin more land :) 12:25:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> laters 12:25:16 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye, Xotic750. 12:25:22 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> coalg goes to coal depot ? 12:25:28 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined spectators 12:25:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no copy a train from trainyard 12:25:36 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Qantourisc, yes, but don't overdo it. 12:26:00 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> I thoughed they wanted to jam the mainline ? 12:26:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i am working on that 12:26:46 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Copy train frmo trainyard without sharing orders, then fix the orders for your specific station, than copy extra train(s) from that one _with_ sharing orders. 12:26:58 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> sounds right 12:28:08 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there SLH 06 has more trains will jam a little until depot is clear 12:28:28 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Qantourisc: Most important rule about Terra-forming is: make it inconspicuous, if it's clearly been terraformed, you did it wrong. 12:28:38 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Ow ... 12:28:42 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Dang 12:28:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003E18E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003E18E.png 12:28:54 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Like a mountianside that is totally flat. 12:29:14 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> let me put the holes back 12:29:42 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Ow 12:29:46 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Your also workingon it :p 12:29:54 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Who ? 12:29:54 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not I. 12:29:58 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> lag ? 12:30:02 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Probably. 12:30:20 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Like this it about was 12:30:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah 12:31:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke lets check if mainline has sufficient flow 12:32:33 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Better ? 12:33:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You know about how you can CTRL-click a signalled track, drag in one direction and let go to signal the whole track in that direction? 12:33:33 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> euu 12:33:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there we go coal needs LLL_RRR 12:33:37 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> isn't that just drag ? 12:33:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> EH, yes. 12:34:03 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> LLL_RRR ? 12:34:07 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> at the depo ? 12:34:23 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Or even in this station also ? 12:34:57 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> We are out of trains :) 12:35:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we hit the trainlimit 12:35:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but first fix coal drop then ask if it can be higher 12:36:34 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I see. 12:36:53 *** Dominik2000 has joined #openttdcoop 12:41:07 *** Progman has quit IRC 12:43:08 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 12:43:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Freed up a pair of bridges for you, Vinnie. 12:43:29 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Jamming at SLH12 12:43:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002496C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002496C.png 12:43:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes we are working there 12:44:30 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Moar bridges ? 12:45:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Unless we go via the peninsula, that might work better. 12:45:33 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Say 12:45:53 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Likie that. 12:46:08 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Bandwith is related to the amount of time spend inside the bridge no ? 12:46:10 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, Qantourisc? 12:46:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> can you make that work? 12:46:22 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> the brdige on top ? 12:46:31 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> peninsular 12:46:39 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> let me find it sec 12:46:54 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> station or post ? 12:47:38 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Sorry i cannot find pencolor :/ 12:47:48 <Qantourisc> I mean pensiular 12:48:21 *** pugi has quit IRC 12:50:01 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> aaa wait that message wasn't directed at me :) 12:50:03 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Connected. 12:50:41 <PublicServer> *** Hans has joined spectators 12:50:49 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> I feel lost 12:50:57 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> I'll go eat first 12:51:17 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah yes, I should eat as well. 12:51:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh well, whenever. 12:52:35 <Dominik2000> !dl 12:52:35 <PublicServer> Dominik2000: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 12:52:35 <PublicServer> Dominik2000: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r23044 12:52:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> split to SLH 12 mazur 12:52:53 <Dominik2000> !dl osx 12:52:53 <PublicServer> Dominik2000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r23044/openttd-trunk-r23044-macosx-universal.zip 12:54:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah yes, overlooked that. 12:55:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> So I suppose all that traffic should go over the six old bridges. 12:56:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> damn this LSLH :) 12:58:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002937C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002937C.png 13:02:47 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ooops, yes. 13:03:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :) 13:03:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now those two missing :( 13:04:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice 13:06:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Can;t you separate the reverser from the other exit line? 13:06:23 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Like that? 13:08:56 *** Dominik2000 has quit IRC 13:11:15 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 13:11:17 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined company #1 13:11:24 <pugi> hello :) 13:11:31 <pugi> now i have some free time 13:11:34 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ni :) 13:11:37 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi even 13:11:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> back 13:11:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 13:11:54 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 13:12:12 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> oooo, there's a new bridge over the bay :) 13:12:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Only to SLH 11. 13:13:18 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> just for an SLH, seems drastic? 13:13:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Station could not get it's empties out fast enough. 13:13:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> -' 13:13:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028181: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028181.png 13:14:26 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I guess you are doing something else before connecting it? 13:14:50 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Vinnie fixed a lot of things about SLH12. 13:15:40 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> aha, I see where your working now 13:16:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah i had to think a little for it 13:16:19 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And then a little more. 13:16:23 <PublicServer> <Mazur> moar. 13:17:29 <Qantourisc> back 13:17:53 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> wb 13:18:50 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> 18 tonnes fcoal 13:18:53 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Can I put a train on it ? 13:18:56 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> putting in a 3rd line? 13:19:02 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> it looks like it's disapearing no ? 13:19:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Xotic750: yes 13:19:25 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> I still feel lost ... 13:19:46 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I think someone might up the train limit with two for your station, Qantourisc. 13:19:48 <KenjiE20> @slowstart 13:19:48 <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything 13:19:56 <KenjiE20> :D 13:20:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it's ok, it's my 2nd game and I'm still lost about many things 13:20:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> reading helps :) 13:20:31 <Qantourisc> I'm rather lost on the "what am i doing here, what can i do ?" etc ... 13:20:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and watching too 13:20:55 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> add primary pickups 13:21:05 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Trains are full and so is depo 13:21:07 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> + not a lot left 13:21:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Qantourisc, most of us felt that way in the beginning. 13:21:35 <KenjiE20> 'most' 13:21:48 <KenjiE20> I got stuck in with a sideline about 1 hour after I joined :p 13:22:16 <Mazur> Yes, but you were an expert in solo play before even coming here. 13:22:32 <KenjiE20> fair point 13:22:43 <Mazur> When I joined, I'd never even seen the game before. 13:22:49 <Mazur> Or even heard of it. 13:22:50 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> :p 13:22:58 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> So how about those extra trains ? 13:22:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I've now done a couple of main stations, a couple of balancers, a couple 2+2->2, 1 SLH and a load of primaries :) 13:23:02 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Is there still room at the wood depo ? 13:23:08 <KenjiE20> and people think V's weird :p 13:23:23 <Mazur> He is weird. 13:23:30 <Mazur> But that's another matter. 13:23:37 <KenjiE20> heh 13:23:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay, elongated prio :D 13:23:44 <PublicServer> <pugi> no, it was me 13:23:55 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Also requesting a new sideline then :) 13:23:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> doing my first BBH is going to be fun :P 13:24:21 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> coal drop can be expanded if anyone pleases 13:24:31 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> I could "cram" stuff tehre 13:24:44 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> but i wouldn't want to fuck it up 13:25:14 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and don't have a clue about addign 3rd lines into any of it :) 13:25:30 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> copy that drop line 1 time and it is enough 13:25:33 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Do we need a third line there ? 13:25:45 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> line 1 ? 13:26:10 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Now i am confused to lack of knowledge :) 13:26:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :) 13:26:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and first you need to understand the pneumonics that people talk 13:27:02 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> the droplines 13:27:14 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> is it the !todo merge to 3rde 13:27:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you can do that 13:27:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it now only merges into the 2 inner mainlines 13:27:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it needs to merge to all 3 13:27:58 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> confused 13:28:52 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> not sure what i need to do :/ 13:28:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00027F71: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00027F71.png 13:29:08 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> have you read anything on the wiki? 13:29:18 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> The entire ? 13:29:20 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it's starting to get a little laggy for me 13:29:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no just a page you have read? 13:30:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> weird... 13:30:29 <PublicServer> <pugi> stupid pbs 13:30:39 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :) 13:31:22 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> A read a lot of pages a year ago 13:31:28 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I thought after the pbs the first signal should be the 2 way eol? 13:32:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> or that was what I was lead to believe 13:32:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i still do it 13:33:09 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> because there is a single then the eol just after that bridge 13:33:15 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :) 13:33:17 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok 13:33:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that? 13:33:36 <Qantourisc> i can't find drop line in the wiky 13:33:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Xotic750: i am gonna redo that merger for 3rd :) 13:34:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Qantourisc: look for main drop station 13:34:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> aha 13:34:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> finally it works 13:34:32 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that is a dobule :) 13:34:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> double 13:34:37 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I'm lagging but will watch 13:34:39 <PublicServer> <pugi> hmm 13:34:53 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay... weird 13:35:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Vin-de-Siecle: How about we split all four of those DROP/PIKCUP lines to eiter choose the old route to SLH12 or the new route to SLH11? 13:36:01 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> thats just for slh12? 13:38:47 <Qantourisc> *sign* 13:38:50 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Weird entrance signalling. 13:38:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 4 a ML enough? 13:39:10 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Usually yes, Vin. 13:39:16 <PublicServer> <Mazur> IIRC. 13:39:18 <PublicServer> <pugi> hmm 13:39:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> apparently 4 per line is not enough 13:39:28 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need to fix exit then 13:39:28 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> That is what needed to happen ? 13:39:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no exit is blocking 13:39:34 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Add a extra line to the drop station ? 13:39:37 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Split from before ? 13:40:57 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> were starting to jam 13:41:15 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> aha, exit gone :P 13:41:17 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> ofcours .... 20% of the station is nolonger free :) 13:42:15 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> "Backuped up for miles" 13:43:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> not much goes over those new bridges 13:43:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Xotic750:No, those only go North. 13:43:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why no roads? 13:43:44 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, new connection hacked. 13:43:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002832E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002832E.png 13:44:02 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> We need to connect the 2 drop line to the 3de no ? 13:44:12 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Stations go unused 13:44:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> 4 is not enough 13:44:41 <PublicServer> <Mazur> 3rd line mostly unused, as yet. 13:44:53 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> For now connect 2 to 3 13:44:57 <PublicServer> <pugi> maybe add psb 13:44:59 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> To hangle the overflow ? 13:45:47 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> who is redoing the merge at moment? 13:45:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> me 13:45:55 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> not me 13:46:16 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Why are we limitting the trains to choising their station ? 13:46:25 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Or are the merges suppost to help there ? 13:46:34 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so it's a copy of how it was working but +1 ? 13:47:11 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> to be frank ... i think we have a bigger problem ... troughput of the drop has descreased ... 13:47:23 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> well "we" ... you guys 13:47:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The problem is at SLH11. 13:47:54 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Wow jikes 13:48:00 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> mayor jam :) 13:48:24 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And unconnected 3rd line. 13:48:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes near 11 iit is unconnected 13:48:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The trains are gasping for it, there. 13:49:01 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but coal drop needs the roads 13:49:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it jams now 13:49:13 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> "needs the road"s ? 13:49:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so it's now a 3+2->3 ? 13:49:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> not a problem of roads... 13:49:44 <PublicServer> <pugi> it needs one more platform 13:49:48 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> 3 + 3 in 2 inside the hub 3 out 13:49:54 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> not sure what that is in slang 13:49:54 <PublicServer> <pugi> doens't unload quick enough 13:49:56 <PublicServer> <Mazur> There's a quick fix to unload part of SLH11. 13:50:53 <PublicServer> *** Hans has left the game (leaving) 13:50:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lucky i made the BBH wrong earlier :) 13:51:17 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> ok now watch the drop die :) 13:51:41 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> OOO 13:51:49 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> the selection of the Third line happens waaaaay back ? 13:52:14 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Doesn't the line between 13:52:16 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> ok yes :) 13:52:24 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> you just deleted what i was going to ask :) 13:52:43 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> Still i'm not enjoying this ... 13:53:16 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Rome was not build in a day. 13:53:16 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> OK coal mine dided !!! 13:53:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> taking the roads out again? 13:53:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not me 13:54:17 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> what is with the roads ? 13:54:27 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> penalties 13:54:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the roads give penalty to train pathfinder 13:54:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> whos taking them out then? 13:54:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it worked befor when we did not have Pre so trains will choose closest track 13:54:58 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> not me 13:55:48 <PublicServer> <Qantourisc> I had enough ... 13:55:52 <PublicServer> *** Qantourisc has left the game (leaving) 13:55:54 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and back in again, lol 13:56:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> more platforms 13:56:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes 13:56:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> that was pretty clear... 13:56:29 <PublicServer> <pugi> but no space :( 13:56:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 6 was enough but will 5 do? 13:56:43 <PublicServer> <pugi> i guess 13:56:45 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i can make space for 5 13:56:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> it just barely doesn't fit if the line if full 13:57:02 <PublicServer> <pugi> i guess 5 would be enough 13:57:13 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke moster jam predicted in 3 minutes 13:57:15 <PublicServer> <pugi> maybe behind each other? 13:57:19 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> monster 13:57:34 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :P 13:57:38 <Qantourisc> "Despite this positive development we have to face the problem that it is more and more challenging for new players to join us." <= Jep, goodbye 13:57:48 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> bye bye station 13:58:06 <Qantourisc> My advise ... make a 3th server 13:58:07 <pugi> what is your problem, Qantourisc? 13:58:20 <pugi> you don't understand what we are doing? 13:58:47 <Qantourisc> "Qantourisc: pff this is tomuch of an effort to even get started !" "pugi: nooo Qantourisc" You asked to stay ... I don't know why i tried 13:58:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A334: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A334.png 13:58:58 <Qantourisc> I sorta do ... 13:59:06 <Qantourisc> but if i want to watch i'll turn on tv 13:59:25 <pugi> we encourage new players to just start building stuff 13:59:31 <pugi> and help if they need help 13:59:45 <pugi> and it is true that most new players only watch in the beginning 13:59:49 <Qantourisc> well ... the current server is fully build + no trains free or capacity 13:59:59 <pugi> and i doubt you can see openttd on tv :P 14:00:10 <Qantourisc> otherwise i could cut on new primary resources like planetmaker suggested 14:00:16 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> we get more trains when this is fixed 14:00:45 <pugi> maybe you want to try again when we have a new map 14:00:52 <planetmaker> Qantourisc: we first solve issues with the network before we create potential new problems by adding more trains 14:01:02 <Qantourisc> "dhu" 14:01:23 <Qantourisc> pugi: only this week i have enough time to invest ... 14:01:39 <planetmaker> but if you want to go, sulk and become defensive and abuse. Do that, if you think it helps you anywhere 14:01:42 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> though when we get more trains I might be out of it due to lag :P 14:02:26 <Qantourisc> planetmaker: "abuse" ? you mean cram the network ... that's bad 14:02:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> this looks ugly :D 14:02:56 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so, we got 3 new platform from that 14:03:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 14:03:12 <planetmaker> I mean your disdainful comment over in #openttd 14:03:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 12 = 4* 3 14:03:21 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 15 = 3 * 5 14:03:57 <planetmaker> and no. There are no other coop servers to my knowledge ;-) 14:04:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> @@(gap 9) 14:04:19 <Webster> PublicServer: For Trainlength of 9: <= 15 needs 2, 16 - 26 needs 3, 27 - 37 needs 4. 14:04:23 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> are 5's less efficient than 3's though? 14:04:28 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> @@(gap 3) 14:04:29 <Webster> PublicServer: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 14:04:32 <Qantourisc> planetmaker: hmmm not sure how i should have formualted that ... i also made no reference to openttdcoop... otherwise i would specificly have said openttpcoop sucks, it doesn't but this watching only is not for me 14:04:38 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> due to the entrance? 14:04:53 <Mazur> There is the Welcome server, but most people play their own company, there. 14:05:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> now we need presignal bypass 14:05:09 *** Dominik2000 has joined #openttdcoop 14:05:20 <Dominik2000> hello 14:05:27 <planetmaker> well. nvm then 14:05:37 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I thought that v453 said that the psb is of no use? 14:05:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> he did? 14:05:54 <PublicServer> <pugi> no idea 14:06:12 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep, because I asked whether I should build like that in the beginning 14:06:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not totally "no use", but generally a bad choice. 14:06:17 <Qantourisc> Mazur: that's sorta ok for noobs, aslong as they don't work in eachother ways ... also companies can be joined no ? 14:06:45 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> go back to twoway 14:06:47 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I liked the modular style for adding platforms 14:06:57 <Mazur> Qantourisc, just read the !rules there. 14:07:02 <Qantourisc> !rules 14:07:03 <PublicServer> Qantourisc: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Ruleset 14:07:19 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> of the psb that is 14:07:19 <Mazur> No, there, at #openttdcoop.stable 14:07:26 <Dominik2000> one question: if you play singleplayer what do you do? 14:07:34 <Dominik2000> do you create a network plan also 14:07:35 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> though it appeared to use a lot of land space 14:07:43 <planetmaker> Dominik2000: I don't play SP :-P 14:07:50 <Mazur> Depends on who you ask. 14:08:02 <Dominik2000> and get all things connected with mainlines and sidelinehubs and so 14:08:08 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SP is choas gamestyle 14:08:09 <Mazur> I generally work without a plan, and then regret it later on. 14:08:42 <planetmaker> In the rare occasion I do - why would I build a plan for me? 14:08:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> maybe you make multiple plans and then vote for yourself :P 14:09:07 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :P 14:09:29 <Mazur> No, I vot for hte other guy, his plan is usually better. 14:09:34 <Dominik2000> no i mean you plan only one plan :) 14:09:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> voting stage will always be unanamous 14:09:36 <Qantourisc> planetmaker: also sorry if my repsonses are not as they should be... i'm verrry stressed 14:09:41 <Dominik2000> no voting :D 14:09:44 <planetmaker> pugi: sounds like a good plan ;-) 14:10:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> network looks good again? 14:10:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> impressed how you managed to find the space to get those in though 14:10:37 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (connection lost) 14:10:39 <Dominik2000> its only the question if chaos style or plan. but i think the most of you don't play sp or build chaos style 14:11:09 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 14:11:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I've been doing a little sp 14:11:25 <Vinnie_nl> my kind of sp is on the welcome server. better compeditors then any ai 14:11:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> networked but no plan :) 14:11:33 <planetmaker> Vinnie_nl: hehe, indeed 14:11:49 <planetmaker> I do that sometimes, too 14:12:05 <planetmaker> And less effort than starting a new game here... 14:12:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH 05 :( 14:12:32 <Dominik2000> ok thanks :) 14:12:53 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> not going to sign your reworked station? :) 14:12:55 *** Dominik2000 has quit IRC 14:12:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm 14:13:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no increased traincount for some time 14:13:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH 04 needs a 3rd line in the sweet spot 14:13:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A73E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A73E.png 14:15:57 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> the 3+2->3 why does the lower drop exit only goto the new bridges? 14:16:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> where? 14:17:10 *** LoPo has joined #openttdcoop 14:17:21 <LoPo> !password 14:17:21 <PublicServer> LoPo: sterns 14:17:21 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Look at !that split 14:17:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> new bridges would be outer ML, if i understand correct 14:17:38 <planetmaker> !rcon clients 14:17:38 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #1 name: 'PublicServer' company: 255 IP: server 14:17:38 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #1833 name: 'Vinnie' company: 1 IP: 83.84.207.157 14:17:38 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #1884 name: 'pugi' company: 1 IP: 134.102.49.72 14:17:38 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #1860 name: 'Mazur' company: 1 IP: 94.210.190.174 14:17:38 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #1596 name: 'Xotic750' company: 1 IP: 85.227.232.96 14:17:40 <planetmaker> !more 14:17:41 <PublicServer> planetmaker: you have no more messages 14:17:46 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 14:17:54 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> aha, I didn't see !that split 14:18:00 <PublicServer> *** LoPo joined the game 14:18:05 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hello 14:18:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 14:18:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> LoPo. 14:18:17 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm off. 14:18:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky :P 14:18:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya maz 14:18:24 <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb 14:18:26 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> the distance makes it confusing for me 14:18:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bite to eat. Bye. 14:18:33 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> cya 14:18:35 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 14:20:51 *** Qantourisc has left #openttdcoop 14:20:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hmmm, the lag seems to get less with less clients connected 14:22:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Vinnie: how long have you been playing ottd? 14:22:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i remeber the original but it has been on and off 14:22:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i have seen a psg like 19x but really started on 200 14:23:35 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but cumulated time would be in years? 14:23:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1.5 or so 14:24:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but that would be one year hanging arround here really learning the game 14:24:35 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> cool, I only have 1.48 years to go to your level then :P 14:25:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm some nasty jam at BBH 03 14:25:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I think I like this game better than the last, or the plan is better 14:26:34 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and have learn a great deal this time, and fewer mistakes (I think :P) 14:27:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the most important think is to understand how something works 14:27:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> like the roads in your main drop 14:27:55 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> well, this is my first LL_RR but it gets pretty confusing when the 3rd line gets added 14:28:19 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep, the penalties, and the back facing pbs 14:28:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> had that to till we played a game where we went 8L_8R 14:28:29 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that was a great tip 14:28:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then you see it is just repeating 14:28:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029867: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00029867.png 14:30:23 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I spent quite a while last night prepping myself for those 2+2->2 mergers on the MS's 14:30:35 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> then had to have the guts to interrupt the flow :) 14:31:39 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> It's pretty nerv racking to blow up the exit of the MS and rebuild them 14:31:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :) 14:33:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and so it's really impressive to watch you tackling something like that MS upgrade you just performed 14:34:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and I'm so slow at laying track 14:34:38 <pugi> you just have to use shortcuts 14:34:46 <pugi> then it's much easier to do it fast 14:35:06 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I do it all by mouse at the moment 14:35:12 <pugi> a for rail, s for signals, d for destroy 14:35:18 <pugi> q, w, e for terraforming 14:35:22 <pugi> t tunnel, b bridge 14:35:41 <pugi> r for remove (combined with signal or station) 14:36:02 <pugi> there are probably some more i don't know :D 14:36:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I guess stations have to be done by mouse though 14:36:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> to choose the right graphic 14:36:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no it a number like 7 or 8 14:37:48 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I'll start playing with those shortcuts, I just started a new sp game, just me no ai 14:38:38 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> small map, and hilly as I was playing on flat land to get some ideas last time 14:40:46 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> my SLH06 is seriously backed up as the trains can't get onto the main line 14:41:00 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> seems to be alot more trains on it than I remember 14:41:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> my fault :) 14:41:30 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you had stations with 800 tons waiting 14:41:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but lucky for you your SLH needs a 3rd connection soon 14:41:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you can make it :) 14:42:33 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> too much lag for me, I think this game maybe over for me, like the previous game when it got this laggy 14:42:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> unless I can borrow my friends pc to see if it makes any difference 14:43:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that must be a bummer. all games get like this 14:43:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or more 14:43:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029865: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00029865.png 14:44:17 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I don't understand why it is so bad, as I said b4 I have resources spare on my pc 14:44:43 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> 1 cpu is running 100% but the other is only like about 40% 14:44:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this is not a multicore game 14:45:19 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> is the code not multithreaded then? 14:45:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i have no idea but if you read the tt forums you will see that every multicore idea gets shot down 14:46:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so i guess it is not possible 14:47:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it's possible but I guess the code would need a rewrite if it's not multithread 14:47:59 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> well if that's the case then it's only like running on a single 1.6MHz centrino :( 14:48:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> want to start the 3L_3R on BBH 03? 14:48:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> well i can only play this game on my macbook air my desktop can't handle it 14:49:16 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I think I'm limited to watching, and I have to go and collect my washing just now so going to be 15 mins or so 14:50:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> back soon 14:50:08 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya 14:50:10 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined spectators 14:58:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000C6E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000C6E.png 15:01:18 *** pugi has quit IRC 15:01:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lopo can i go spectate? 15:02:25 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has joined spectators 15:02:25 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:02:29 <PublicServer> <LoPo> sure ;p 15:02:29 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 15:02:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :) 15:22:51 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined company #1 15:23:07 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 15:25:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 15:25:56 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 15:25:56 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:26:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I changed the process priority to see if it improves things wrt lag 15:26:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you are fully zoomed in? 15:27:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> no out 1 zoom level 15:27:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you are asking for lagg :) 15:27:28 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> just testing it 15:27:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i also lagg when i zoom out so i dont do it :) 15:28:00 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> seems much better and both cpus run now 15:28:30 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hardly any lag in +1 zoom 15:29:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke can you play? 15:29:12 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and completely normal in full zoom 15:29:46 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I would say that I'm in the game again :) 15:30:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH03 to SLH 06 :) 15:30:19 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but I have to make dinner very soon and then collect the rest of my washing 15:30:24 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh oke 15:30:41 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so maybe not the best time to start something :) 15:31:59 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> your connection seems to have got rid of the backlog at slh6 15:32:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah but it must be rebuild soon 15:33:12 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> aha and you fixed a signal issue 15:33:28 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> after your bridges? 15:33:31 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep 15:33:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> did you make the original? 15:34:33 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yeah, all of it but had a little help from sylf on the connection towards beer and fitting it in 15:34:54 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and a bridge that mfb did 15:35:30 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> where you are working just now I had trouble fitting it 15:36:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I don't have an eye for the space usage yet 15:39:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice 15:39:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> if i say so myself :) 15:41:27 <V453000> !password 15:41:27 <PublicServer> V453000: rodent 15:41:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> you think so 15:41:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 15:41:46 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:41:53 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 15:41:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 15:42:14 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it took me about 3 hours or so to build it :P 15:43:05 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> which is a little ridiculous, I know 15:43:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not really 15:43:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its one of your first 15:43:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> the 1st 15:44:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001E68: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001E68.png 15:44:02 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 15:44:17 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I started by just making it rough and then worked it 15:44:33 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> then tweaked it again a few times 15:44:54 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I had a huge 360 degree loop at the very beginning 15:45:00 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> very pretty, lol 15:45:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :) 15:45:18 <V453000> !password 15:45:18 <PublicServer> V453000: rodent 15:45:42 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:46:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol watercow farm :D 15:46:55 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ? 15:47:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> Kintburg Springs: 15:47:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> aha 15:48:12 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I feel so incompetant watching you rework all of that 15:48:31 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i am not redoing it 15:48:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i am changing it so i can add 3rd :) 15:49:21 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that's what I mean, I had trouble getting the original in that space 15:49:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> redoing it implies that the original was wrong, witch was not 15:49:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> well that is unfair about landscape 15:50:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> over time everyone changes a little arround the SLH so the landscape also changes 15:50:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> which is why "very low TF" games are rather impossible to do 15:51:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> because if you expand 3 times and always edit a tiny bit, it might not be very low in the end 15:51:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I do try my best to avoid TF 15:51:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> "no tf" would work there but that is plain retarded 15:51:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> Xotic750: sure, that is the best approach 15:51:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> just do what you can 15:52:26 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 15:53:46 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> pretty tight in there :) 15:53:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :) 15:53:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it works 15:54:55 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> not so much traffice goes in that direction from the slh 15:55:04 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> mostly goes west 15:55:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but still that connection has to be made 15:55:37 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> oh yeah, it is used, only about 10% maybe 15:56:42 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it looks massive now in comparison to a little while ago 15:56:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> as in to big? 15:57:15 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> no, just in comparison to the 2 lines 15:57:25 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> looks neat 15:57:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you can do the BBH merger to connect 3rd 15:58:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it is an easy one 15:58:21 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 2 + 2 lines must be made 3 lines 15:58:51 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so you got 4 lines that need to become 3 lines 15:59:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001C61: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001C61.png 15:59:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this means you have to split one line over 3 others 15:59:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> can you do that? 15:59:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I will certainly try, but cooking while watching at the moment :) 16:00:02 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh then i will do it 16:00:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> if you don't mind 16:00:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> no, I'm happy to watch and see how experience processes it 16:02:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> once I figure out where you are or are going to start 16:02:08 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH 04 16:02:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no 03 16:02:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> top side 16:02:54 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> on the steep hill 16:02:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 16:06:51 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 16:07:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> looks ok 16:08:22 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> better than previous even 16:09:21 <Maraxus> !password 16:09:21 <PublicServer> Maraxus: sparks 16:09:37 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 16:09:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 16:09:41 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 16:10:08 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what else can be improved no :P 16:10:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now 16:12:50 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> bbs, washing :) 16:12:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya 16:14:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006E8A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006E8A.png 16:14:34 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined spectators 16:16:57 *** Dominik2000 has joined #openttdcoop 16:18:30 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and Maraxus how are you? 16:19:18 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> fine, thanks - looking for something to do in this game, but things look fine atm 16:19:32 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i agree lets ask for more trains 16:20:58 <Vinnie_nl> any members arround befor i start some highlighting? 16:22:32 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined company #1 16:22:41 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> bk 16:23:12 <Dominik2000> !password 16:23:12 <PublicServer> Dominik2000: sicked 16:23:20 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> man, that is some serious spicy soup I made :) 16:23:21 <Vinnie_nl> planetmaker, V453000 can the trainlimit be increased. The network flow is nice and we have no more jams. atm we have 1250 trains. Thabk you 16:23:29 <Vinnie_nl> thank you 16:23:55 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 joined the game 16:24:11 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> chicken thai tom kha soup 16:25:29 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> flowing real nice 16:26:14 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> need more trains on my ore mine, 1000 tonnes sitting there 16:26:48 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> production has rocketed 16:27:10 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> 1224 tonnes/month 16:28:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm no response :( 16:29:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003DA23: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003DA23.png 16:29:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> is the economy model always to increase production in coop? 16:29:28 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no indstries can also die 16:29:55 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I guess I must be lucky then as all of them have gone up 16:30:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> some by huge amounts 16:30:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1 in 10 dies or so 16:30:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and rst grows like 3% a year 16:30:36 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> farm is now producing 1200 grain per month 16:30:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 200 years and 3% is huge :) 16:30:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :) 16:31:21 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> need more thomas the tank engines :) 16:32:07 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> my lips are burning :P 16:34:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> the bridge around Cadwood is mad funny :) 16:35:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah 16:35:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> maybe make it more mad :) 16:35:20 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 has left the game (leaving) 16:35:25 *** Dominik2000 has quit IRC 16:36:14 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 16:36:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> lol, you can make it more mad? 16:36:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ofcourse 16:38:14 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and the bridge to the oil below it has to be the longest single span I have ever seen 16:39:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> check gendtown west 16:40:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> lol 16:40:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that one is longer :) 16:41:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> the channel tunnel on stilts 16:43:47 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 16:44:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000245D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000245D.png 16:44:57 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 16:46:06 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> how did pugi get so many forrests on that little island in the south 16:46:33 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and a farm and ore 16:46:36 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> ask the rng 16:47:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> rng=? 16:47:11 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> random number generator 16:47:20 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :) 16:47:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> very random' 16:48:51 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 16:49:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it really is quite a cute network 16:49:28 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 16:50:01 <hylje> rng = random number god 16:50:26 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> really near grouped 16:53:45 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Maraxus, are you playing or can I just spectate? 16:53:55 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> go ahead 16:54:05 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined spectators 16:54:05 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:05:48 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 17:16:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> still no member arround? 17:32:52 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop 17:33:12 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:33:12 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven joined the game 17:33:20 <Vinnie_nl> hey 17:36:42 <TWerkhoven> ola 17:37:24 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> ooh, ya finished the 3rd line 17:37:27 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> had fun doing it? 17:39:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah it is fun 17:40:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but i did it on multiple parts of the network 17:40:37 <TWerkhoven> :) 17:40:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> only we hit the trainlimit :( 17:43:05 <TWerkhoven> the usual then 17:44:10 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 17:44:43 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has joined company #1 17:44:43 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:44:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we can however wait and check BBH 05 17:44:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i feel it is about to break 17:47:29 *** Eightbitpwny has joined #openttdcoop 17:56:28 <Vinnie_nl> !screen 17:56:30 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie_nl made screenshot at 00034D8B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00034D8B.png 17:56:49 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 18:01:59 <Tray> !password 18:01:59 <PublicServer> Tray: crazed 18:02:22 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 18:02:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> good evening 18:05:10 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 18:05:13 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 18:10:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> is anyone building? 18:10:30 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> no 18:10:46 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> no 18:11:00 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has joined spectators 18:11:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so we are all waiting for the trainlimit to be raised :) 18:14:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009F51: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009F51.png 18:19:59 *** Tray has quit IRC 18:24:15 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 18:24:15 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:46:14 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 18:46:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 18:46:22 <mfb-> hi 18:46:42 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:46:42 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:46:43 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 18:48:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> any jams? 18:51:28 <mfb-> !rcon set max_trains 1375 18:55:00 *** magape has joined #openttdcoop 18:56:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no jams, and hello 18:57:57 <PublicServer> *** hnrgrgr joined the game 18:59:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A549: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000A549.png 19:10:24 <PublicServer> *** hnrgrgr has left the game (leaving) 19:10:33 *** magape has quit IRC 19:14:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00011DC6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00011DC6.png 19:19:37 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 19:19:45 <Vinnie_nl> !screen 19:19:46 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie_nl made screenshot at 000163C0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000163C0.png 19:21:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 19:21:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ? 19:21:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe an interesting rule: "no TF for SLs/primaries 19:21:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> ;) 19:22:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> interesting 19:22:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> leads to nice spaghetti rails, too 19:22:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you like that :) 19:22:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> indeed 19:23:29 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i hate this 19:23:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> somehow the mainlines have gaps in signaling 19:23:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> the usual wtf 19:27:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i got a nice one for you mfb 19:28:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 19:28:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> what is !bride? :D 19:28:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah lol 19:28:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> try and fix that 19:29:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000D227: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000D227.png 19:29:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 19:29:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> connection length would be ok 19:29:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> as it has to go south anyway 19:30:55 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 19:32:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no tf? 19:32:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> I try it :D 19:33:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is not the point 19:33:16 <pugi> hello again 19:33:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 19:33:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 19:33:40 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 19:34:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm i cant play on a touchpad 19:34:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah, got it 19:34:16 <pugi> well here we are again 19:34:26 <pugi> it's always such a pleasure... 19:34:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm does not help 19:34:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> that works 19:36:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm.. done 19:44:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002B241: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002B241.png 19:48:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i need another ml to fail :) 19:49:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> BBH06<->LV/STEEL N 19:50:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that is just a bad merger 19:50:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 19:50:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> but it is part of the ML system :) 19:51:08 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that fix is so easy 19:52:30 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 19:54:18 *** Intexon has quit IRC 19:54:24 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 19:56:53 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 19:57:00 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hello 19:57:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 19:57:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 19:57:15 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 19:57:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> although it does not look better now 19:59:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00015B6F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00015B6F.png 19:59:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> farm also no tf? 19:59:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> the one I am building? 19:59:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> near Gunninghall 19:59:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> do you think I would build it so large with? ;) 20:00:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i hope not 20:05:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah crap 20:07:08 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 20:07:29 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why are you happy with a CL 2 for the exit but the entry mut be CL 3 20:07:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 20:07:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> after that tunnel, it does not matter at all 20:08:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> now I have small CLs on both sides :D 20:08:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> I am not happy, but I accept them :) 20:09:01 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 20:09:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> i love the autopassword thing =) 20:09:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm i am going to start 3L_3R BBH06 20:09:49 <PublicServer> <pugi> is it needed? 20:09:54 <PublicServer> <pugi> hm okay 20:10:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the BBH06 merger is not fast enough 20:10:03 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah, just saw it 20:10:25 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so i am going to make it till SLH 10 20:10:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> mfb, is (no TF) a new part of your nickname ? :P 20:10:57 <mfb-> no :p 20:14:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000127C8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000127C8.png 20:17:20 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop 20:17:51 <Thorinbur> IDENTIFY 20:17:55 <Thorinbur> !Identify 20:18:15 <Thorinbur> grrr IRC noob again :) 20:19:54 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 20:19:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> haha 20:20:13 <Thorinbur> Ok i got it now :) 20:20:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this is so nice 20:21:01 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Dominik places a reversed pbs for each SL exit 20:21:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> like he wants trains to keep on the mainline :) 20:23:41 <Thorinbur> good, now i am me 20:23:58 <Vinnie_nl> welcome 20:24:24 <Thorinbur> !password 20:24:25 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: blouse 20:25:23 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur joined the game 20:29:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000119C8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000119C8.png 20:36:44 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 20:37:09 *** Intexon has quit IRC 20:40:11 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I love those stations. Nice eye candy. 20:41:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> only the drop needs a 4rd line and it is done 20:41:23 <pugi> add some more :D 20:41:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 3rd 20:41:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but that can wait 20:41:44 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wh 20:41:45 <pugi> wood drop? 20:41:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya 20:41:50 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> which drop? 20:41:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> livestock and steel N 20:42:02 <pugi> ah 20:42:08 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> just copy one of the existing ones :) 20:42:32 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 20:44:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003EB0A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003EB0A.png 20:45:06 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> problem iis yoou still need to merge thaqt 3rd line 20:45:35 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 20:45:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 20:46:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> that single bridge at SLH10 is a bottleneck now 20:47:43 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> where exactly? 20:47:53 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hey :P 20:47:59 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has joined company #1 20:48:34 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hello LoPo 20:58:12 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Is anyone building anything? or you just checking network for possible problems? 20:58:43 <PublicServer> <LoPo> im checking out the experimental anti evil mode device 20:58:50 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok 20:58:52 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^ 20:59:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003CE9B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003CE9B.png 20:59:35 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh there is third line near the livestock/steel Drop both in and out 21:01:29 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there is problem with livestock and steel drop N 21:01:45 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we need smarter signalling 21:01:47 <PublicServer> <LoPo> where? 21:02:01 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> on dropstations entrance 21:02:15 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i see 21:02:26 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> trains dont use platforms efiiciently 21:02:57 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we need either PBSs or presidals 21:03:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm 21:04:04 <PublicServer> <LoPo> first try it at one 21:04:06 <PublicServer> <mfb> wait 21:04:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> who removed the X there :( 21:04:15 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 21:04:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> which X ? 21:04:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> at "removed slowing snakes" 21:04:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> (well, I found the answer) 21:04:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow, dunno 21:04:47 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah 21:04:49 <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky 21:04:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> pugi: not the X were the problem 21:05:05 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> seems to be working i will copy thhat on other one 21:05:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> no, it does not 21:05:32 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ? 21:05:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> Thorinbur: its not the entrance btw 21:05:45 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> are we talking about the same thing? 21:05:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> that near cadwood? 21:05:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> there are more train taking tho north station 21:05:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> I think so 21:06:15 <PublicServer> <LoPo> im talking about LS/Steel drop 21:06:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> mfd about snakes ;P 21:07:20 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now they should use all platforms 21:07:35 <PublicServer> <LoPo> they already do 21:08:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> imo the balancer is to far away from the station 21:08:38 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there were only regular signals there and sometimes train tended to wait for the last platform to free and was blocking 21:08:49 <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky 21:08:55 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (connection lost) 21:09:53 *** Thorinbur_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:10:04 <Thorinbur_> bleh i changed my IP :/ 21:10:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol 21:10:24 <Thorinbur_> anyway there is merge there of third line 21:11:12 <Thorinbur_> both stations need to be copied and connected separately 21:11:16 <Thorinbur_> !password 21:11:16 <PublicServer> Thorinbur_: skates 21:11:32 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur joined the game 21:11:36 *** Spuuukie has joined #openttdcoop 21:11:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> it not the merg as well :P 21:12:00 <Spuuukie> hi@all 21:12:05 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi 21:12:11 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hello 21:13:55 *** Thorinbur is now known as Guest15726 21:13:55 *** Thorinbur_ is now known as Thorinbur 21:14:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000084C8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000084C8.png 21:14:11 <Thorinbur> ok I am ne yet again:) 21:14:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 21:14:24 <Spuuukie> !password 21:14:24 <PublicServer> Spuuukie: skates 21:14:30 <Thorinbur> There was ghost of me when i dropped 21:14:59 <PublicServer> *** Spuuukie joined the game 21:15:11 *** Dominik2000 has joined #openttdcoop 21:15:17 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 21:15:45 <Dominik2000> hello 21:15:47 <Dominik2000> !password 21:15:47 <PublicServer> Dominik2000: skates 21:15:51 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi 21:16:01 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 joined the game 21:16:21 <PublicServer> <LoPo> see what i did Thorinbur? 21:16:22 *** Guest15726 has quit IRC 21:16:27 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> where? 21:16:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> at LS/STEEL drop entrance 21:17:17 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> small balancer? 21:17:23 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yep 21:17:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but its just to crouded :P 21:17:56 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we need third station 21:18:00 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye 21:18:10 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so we wont have to merge the 3rd line 21:18:37 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and i think pbs would be slightly faster than presignals 21:21:40 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 21:23:11 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> why we reduce two lanes to one and then to the ls/steel drop 21:23:11 <pugi> mfb: i know the X didn't create the problem... 21:23:15 <pugi> but they amplified it 21:23:21 <pugi> and were just stupid :D 21:23:23 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> isn't this a bottleneck? 21:23:37 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm? 21:23:47 <PublicServer> <LoPo> where? 21:24:02 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> at !here 21:24:16 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i think it stops the trains on the ml 21:24:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> the station "design" has one entrance? 21:24:40 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I wasn't really in this game til very and but i believe 3rd line was added later 21:25:00 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> thus merge and only 2 stations we are expanding it right now 21:25:39 <PublicServer> <LoPo> go ahead :) 21:25:57 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yes but there are much trains and it is not causing a jam now, but maybe later if more train comes 21:26:31 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 21:26:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ill make the balancer exit ready for the 3rd station 21:29:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000177B3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000177B3.png 21:33:49 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn 21:34:02 <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb 21:34:09 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 21:34:20 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 21:35:04 <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol :P 21:35:14 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ? 21:35:24 <PublicServer> <LoPo> did something wrong :P 21:36:24 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am trying to make my way to the other side to the goods pickup :) 21:36:47 <PublicServer> <LoPo> good 21:36:52 <Thorinbur> what was the command for tunnel length? 21:36:56 <Thorinbur> !tl 21:37:00 <Thorinbur> !bl 21:37:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> it is easier to do that west of the factory 21:37:37 <TWerkhoven> @gap 21:37:37 <Webster> TWerkhoven: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1. 21:38:13 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> thank you i feel like such a noob again 21:38:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> np ;) 21:39:07 <Thorinbur> mfb :) not you i was thanking for a gap command actually bu will look into your advice as well 21:39:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 21:39:43 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 21:41:58 <Thorinbur> !gap 3 21:41:58 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: !gap <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 21:43:40 <Thorinbur> !gap 3 10 21:43:40 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 10. 21:44:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00017DD1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00017DD1.png 21:44:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf triple bridges 21:44:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> what are you doing 21:45:13 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am trying to get under all that shit to the other side 21:45:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 21:45:47 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we can offord 3 bridges XD 21:45:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> and split to the other side 21:45:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> no need to bridge the same line 21:47:56 <pugi> Thorinbur, use @gap or @tunnel and not the ! commands 21:48:03 <pugi> they tell you more 21:48:07 <pugi> @gap 3 21:48:07 <Webster> pugi: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 21:50:05 *** nlhans has left #openttdcoop 21:50:08 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> bleh i already forgot how mind bending it is when you are not in the "shape" 21:52:46 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 21:53:00 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you can finish after me 21:54:25 <PublicServer> <LoPo> pffff 21:54:27 <PublicServer> <LoPo> finally :P 21:54:48 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> beautiful :) 21:54:58 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i agree, really nice 21:55:05 <PublicServer> <LoPo> thx 21:55:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i almost went mad :P 21:55:22 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now for the second station 21:55:28 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> the second lane on the begin isn't connected 21:55:30 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but then i though, "oky back to the old method" 21:55:47 <PublicServer> <LoPo> where? 21:55:49 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 21:55:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> relax :) 21:55:59 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> no sorry 21:56:11 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> is ok :) 21:56:36 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wait with connecting 21:56:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> to late :p 21:56:50 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we need to merge it with pickup 21:57:04 <PublicServer> <LoPo> already done 21:57:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow entrance? 21:57:13 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ther 21:57:16 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> o wait 21:57:30 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there is no third pickup station yet 21:57:38 <PublicServer> <LoPo> pickup is at east 21:57:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> also pickup doesnt need third 21:58:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i think :) 21:58:24 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but i already made a line there :) 21:58:36 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> only station is missing 21:59:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016FAC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00016FAC.png 22:00:05 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why so big prio? 22:00:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> less tf :P 22:00:20 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> haha 22:02:23 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ;P 22:02:42 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i was making my way to make third pickup station for third lane 22:02:45 <PublicServer> <LoPo> guys :P 22:02:52 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but now i am confused 22:02:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> I mean the X there 22:03:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, and the split needs better signals 22:03:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> no, the third line there is ok 22:03:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> see my signs 22:03:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> do it like that 22:04:45 <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> fine but i got to go, you can rebuild that if you want 22:04:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow :| 22:05:13 <PublicServer> <LoPo> well :P bye then 22:05:19 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> bye 22:05:22 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (leaving) 22:05:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> bye 22:05:34 <Thorinbur> will be back later today 22:05:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k :) 22:05:43 <Thorinbur> off to kill some zombies with friends 22:05:49 *** Thorinbur has quit IRC 22:08:53 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 22:09:57 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> is !this merger needed any more? 22:10:23 <PublicServer> <LoPo> not if we connect 3rd 22:10:33 <PublicServer> <LoPo> help me with the entrance :) 22:10:43 <PublicServer> <LoPo> can you build the split? 22:10:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and pull the line next to th rest? 22:10:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> what about !that split? 22:11:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> why the sign? 22:11:04 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> to the goods pickup 22:11:30 <PublicServer> <LoPo> "that split" will be removed mfd :) 22:12:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> coal/ore -> SLH12? 22:12:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, double bridge is really oversized 22:12:49 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 22:12:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> where? 22:13:00 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 22:14:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000187D7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000187D7.png 22:14:14 <mfb-> at "that split"... 22:14:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye 22:17:29 <PublicServer> <LoPo> argh.... 22:17:30 <Spuuukie> what are the terraforming rules of this game? 22:17:53 <PublicServer> <LoPo> its in the wiki :P 22:18:14 <V453000> have you actually read the wiki tf page lopo? 22:18:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeha :D 22:18:24 <V453000> because there is something quite a bit different afaik :) 22:18:40 <PublicServer> <LoPo> realy? 22:19:02 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Terraforming 22:19:09 <Spuuukie> yeah, but i mean the active game 22:19:18 <V453000> well if "correct terraforming" is correct, then wtf :) 22:19:25 <Spuuukie> there are many styles described in the wiki ;) 22:19:40 <V453000> the wiki is not too updated 22:19:46 <V453000> so the best way is to ask, just like you did 22:19:52 <V453000> unfortunately you got the wrong answer :P 22:20:21 <Spuuukie> :) thought that 22:21:08 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 22:21:14 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 22:21:18 <V453000> which brings the question why does nobody care about the wiki :( 22:21:22 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 22:21:32 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 22:21:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i care, but i dont "care" the wiki :P 22:21:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> to little time 22:22:12 <V453000> lies 22:22:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg! :P 22:22:23 <PublicServer> <LoPo> how did you know? 22:22:30 <Spuuukie> well i read the wiki... but i've been to long away from openttd to write something about it ;) 22:23:00 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:23:13 <V453000> because if someone cared at least a tiny bit about the junctionary with which I tried to catch your attention, I would have plenty suggestions what to put there as it takes no real extra time to anyone 22:23:23 <V453000> I can count the suggestions on fingers of 0 hands 22:23:35 <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky 22:23:45 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm 22:23:54 <V453000> I dont expect anyone to actually write anything if nobody did even that 22:23:54 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i had one but i forgot :S 22:24:56 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok can we connect the 3rd line 22:25:03 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined company #1 22:25:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 22:25:19 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> oh sorry you haven't finished 22:25:21 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> hi 22:27:00 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k connect it 22:28:29 <PublicServer> <LoPo> single bridge enough? 22:28:31 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> nop 22:28:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> then double it ^^ 22:29:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00017FDC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00017FDC.png 22:29:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> done :D 22:30:08 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> very good :) 22:30:24 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow man... 22:30:46 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ? 22:30:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> entrance of the 3rd line is not balanced between stations.... 22:33:12 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> hmmm 22:33:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm? 22:34:09 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> entrance balance 22:34:37 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> there's not so much space 22:35:27 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hmmm, out of trains again 22:36:46 <PublicServer> *** Spuuukie has left the game (leaving) 22:37:15 <Spuuukie> well good night then ;) ...its nice to see openttdcoop still exists 22:37:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 22:37:30 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> gn 22:37:40 *** Spuuukie has quit IRC 22:39:16 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has left the game (connection lost) 22:39:31 <Xotic750> !password 22:39:31 <PublicServer> Xotic750: bugged 22:39:53 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 joined the game 22:43:49 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> all done with the livestock drop? 22:44:03 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> no the entrance balancer is missing 22:44:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00018DD5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00018DD5.png 22:44:32 <PublicServer> <LoPo> look at it and then say if it needs improvements or not :P 22:45:30 <PublicServer> <LoPo> dont build to thight 22:45:34 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> god knows, my first experience of 3 lines 22:45:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> well, do you see that jam? :P 22:45:54 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but if I see something obvious :) 22:45:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> al the way up to the BBH 22:46:14 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so :P yes it needs improvement 22:46:16 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep 22:47:27 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so the exit is feeding directly back to the jam in the entrance 22:47:33 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> at the bbh 22:47:39 *** pugi has quit IRC 22:47:52 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 22:47:54 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> a big circular jam 22:48:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> wut? 22:48:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> no look better 22:48:16 <PublicServer> <LoPo> trains can never turn at a BBH 22:48:44 *** Progman_ has joined #openttdcoop 22:48:48 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> the excessive trains on the exit of the livestock drop feed back into the entrance jam back up in bbh06 22:49:20 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I guess trying to get to SLH10? 22:50:07 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that's just how it looks to me, I may be wrong 22:50:11 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> LoPo: do you build the lane to the 3rd ls station 22:50:29 <PublicServer> <LoPo> nha you may finnish it 22:50:35 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok 22:50:53 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but there are some CL and signal gap issues at your construction :) 22:51:17 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so try to review them 22:51:23 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok 22:52:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is bad 22:52:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> no tile for a signal 22:52:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> yes, !this 22:52:53 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yeah 22:52:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> the old one was better 22:53:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> like that 22:54:39 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:54:47 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 22:56:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I guess I should have built those drops bigger at the veryy begining of the game 22:57:30 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but I had little idea how much traffic would be going through them 22:57:40 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> :D 22:57:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and 12 platforms seemed pretty damn big :) 22:58:48 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> one lane is missing... 22:59:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00019BD4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00019BD4.png 22:59:25 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 23:01:51 <PublicServer> <LoPo> which lane? 23:02:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> to the first 23:02:14 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> to the 3rd 23:02:18 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> station 23:02:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah 23:02:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i see 23:02:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is no problem 23:02:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye not realy 23:02:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> looking at train distribution, I think the station will work better without balancing 23:03:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> too many trains want to use the middle part 23:03:28 <PublicServer> <LoPo> woha epic lag :P 23:03:28 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 23:03:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> seen !broken 23:03:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> -n 23:06:11 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> there was an entry signal ^ 23:06:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> at the moment, there is not 23:06:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> now there is 23:06:28 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yeah i see 23:07:51 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> what is the problem with not good? 23:08:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> the entry signal is bad for good trains 23:08:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> it can wait for LV/steel drop trains without reason 23:08:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> and it is a signal gap of 2 for many trains 23:08:56 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok i see 23:09:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> but !broken is the real problem ;) 23:10:09 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yeah but it seems that my experience is too low 23:10:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is an improvement 23:10:48 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok ^ 23:10:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> at least it cannot block now 23:10:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> the good train thing is still there 23:14:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000187D7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000187D7.png 23:14:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> jam at BBH05 23:14:52 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 23:15:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> I think that needs a 3rd line, too 23:18:45 <PublicServer> <LoPo> where was !broken? 23:21:13 <mfb-> !rcon set max_trains 1500 23:21:13 <PublicServer> mfb-: CmdLevelLand Dominik2000 date:2287-10-02 tile:00016FD1 p1:00016FD1 p2:00000004 text: price:310 23:21:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> why the hack at slh 06 mfd? 23:22:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> trains waited too long at the single bridge 23:22:13 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 23:22:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> now they can use both 23:23:54 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i blame the transmitter :P 23:24:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 23:25:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> with the single tunnel, the double bridge is a bit pointless 23:25:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> 55% better :P 23:25:52 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> oh shit :D 23:25:58 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yeah 23:26:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> and a 1->3 split is best like that 23:26:30 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok 23:27:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is possible, too 23:27:12 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> thats look best 23:27:28 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> the good train problem exists 23:29:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000179D9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000179D9.png 23:29:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 23:29:32 <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol 23:29:47 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 23:29:49 <PublicServer> <LoPo> there 23:30:43 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> it hink 23:30:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm 23:30:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> weird :P 23:33:02 <PublicServer> <LoPo> we could remove some brack space 23:33:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> for that extra tile 23:33:22 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yeah we need one tile 23:37:00 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> better i think 23:37:16 <PublicServer> <LoPo> leave the penalties 23:38:24 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> sorry 23:38:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that will not work :P 23:39:04 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> what? 23:39:21 <PublicServer> <LoPo> you need a backward pbs signal 23:40:47 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has joined spectators 23:40:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k im afk 23:40:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 23:41:01 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> bye 23:41:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> cu 23:42:59 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok thanks for your support i'm going to sleep 23:43:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> good night 23:43:25 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> night 23:43:41 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 has left the game (leaving) 23:43:53 *** Dominik2000 has quit IRC 23:44:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000BA8B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000BA8B.png 23:56:53 *** Mucht has quit IRC 23:59:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028580: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028580.png