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00:08:44 <Webster> 1 new tweet(s): openttdcoop Merry Christmas to all #openttdcoop people out there ^KE, 1 minute ago via SupyTweet. 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Mark. 12:16:36 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 12:16:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 12:16:39 <mfb-> hi 12:17:33 <mfb-> !password 12:17:33 <PublicServer> mfb-: haggle 12:17:43 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:17:43 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 12:18:06 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh oh 12:35:04 <Mazur> Oh? 12:40:58 <^Spike^> ? 12:43:08 * Mazur points to <mfb>, above. 12:43:52 <mfb-> I hope we get a bit more traffic than the PZ game with these industries 12:44:05 <^Spike^> there you arleady said it..: PZ game 12:44:09 <^Spike^> who has access to pz games? :) 12:44:13 <^Spike^> right.. selected people :D 12:44:27 <mfb-> @records 12:44:27 <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 26 | Trains: 2666 (PSG#219) - 2522 (PZG#5) - ( 3000 (PSG#180) logic net) | Single cargo type output: 200,169 (PZG#13) | World Pop: 6,150,671 (PSG#201) 12:44:45 <mfb-> some PZ games :p 12:46:55 * ^Spike^ is busy with something else atm... 12:55:29 *** StarLite has quit IRC 13:08:36 *** Mark has quit IRC 14:07:24 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop 14:07:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 14:07:32 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop 14:08:01 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop 14:08:01 *** ^Spike^- has joined #openttdcoop 14:09:02 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop 14:09:02 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop 14:09:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tneo 14:09:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 14:10:01 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop 14:10:01 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop 14:10:01 *** Webster sets mode: +o Ammler 14:11:01 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 14:11:01 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop 14:11:01 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 14:11:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o XeryusTC 14:11:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 14:11:31 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 14:11:35 *** ^ekipS^ has quit IRC 14:22:59 <Webster> Latest update from dznews: NewGRF Meta Language - NML 0.2.1 released <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/61> 14:26:01 *** ^Spike^- is now known as ^Spike^ 14:26:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 14:41:02 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 14:42:35 *** StarLite has joined #openttdcoop 14:45:08 <StarLite> !players 14:45:11 <PublicServer> StarLite: Client 418 (Orange) is mfb, in company 1 (Merry Christmas all!) 14:45:11 <PublicServer> StarLite: Client 429 is Sylf, a spectator 14:45:11 <PublicServer> StarLite: Client 196 is TWerkhoven[l], a spectator 14:45:45 <StarLite> !password 14:45:50 <PublicServer> StarLite: pilots 14:45:54 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:45:54 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 14:45:55 <PublicServer> *** StarLite joined the game 14:45:59 <mfb-> hi 14:46:02 <PublicServer> *** StarLite has joined spectators 14:46:02 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 14:46:06 <PublicServer> <StarLite> lo 14:46:37 <PublicServer> <StarLite> hey, you cant see signs as a spectator? 14:46:59 <PublicServer> *** StarLite has joined company #1 14:46:59 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 14:47:10 <mfb-> you can 14:47:16 <KenjiE20> there's a thing in the options dropdown for that 14:47:16 <mfb-> there is an option in the options menu 14:47:23 <PublicServer> *** StarLite has joined spectators 14:47:23 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 14:49:31 <PublicServer> <StarLite> cant seem to find that option :s 14:50:31 <PublicServer> <StarLite> ah there 14:50:33 <PublicServer> <StarLite> doh! :P 14:50:35 <PublicServer> <StarLite> tnx 14:51:09 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 14:51:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> afk 15:32:48 *** Vbignum has joined #openttdcoop 15:32:49 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 15:32:50 <Vbignum> o/ 15:33:19 *** Vbignum has left #openttdcoop 15:33:30 *** Vbignum has joined #openttdcoop 15:33:36 *** Webster sets mode: +o Vbignum 15:34:33 <Vbignum> !password 15:34:34 <PublicServer> Vbignum: jogger 15:34:50 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:34:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> hio 15:34:50 *** StarLite has quit IRC 15:34:50 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:36:18 *** Mazur has quit IRC 15:37:59 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop 15:51:32 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop 15:51:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 15:52:46 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop 15:52:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ammler 15:53:42 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop 15:53:44 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 15:53:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 15:54:10 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop 15:54:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 15:54:43 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop 15:54:46 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 15:54:46 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:55:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 15:55:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> no infrastructure costs? 15:55:14 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop 15:56:14 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 15:56:14 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop 15:56:14 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 15:56:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o XeryusTC 15:56:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 15:56:43 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 15:57:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi hi :) 15:58:32 <Vbignum> !rcon set infrastructure_maintenance 15:58:32 <PublicServer> Vbignum: Current value for 'infrastructure_maintenance' is: 'off' (min: 0, max: 1) 15:58:35 <Vbignum> !rcon set infrastructure_maintenance 1 15:58:38 <Vbignum> there it is 16:01:06 <mfb-> ah 16:01:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> 1.7million € for the airports 16:02:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much nothing 16:03:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> income is 10million+ 16:06:19 <Webster> Latest update from dznews: NewGRF Meta Language - NML 0.2.1 released <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/61> 16:08:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh I see now :) 16:08:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> 24 hubs in mark's plan :D 16:08:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah just looking at that 16:08:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> what do you see now? 16:08:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> a bit too many I think 16:08:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> opened the infra window :p 16:09:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> just in more detail what is already in the main list 16:21:11 *** Qanael has joined #openttdcoop 16:33:50 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 16:42:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm 16:42:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it is possible to make it all in 3 main stations 16:49:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> how? 16:49:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> like in the scheme I made near Slintford 16:50:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> what is drop, what is pickup? 16:50:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 16:50:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> so the industries in each sector are independent? 16:51:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> kind of 16:51:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> (=do not need the output of the same sector) 16:51:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting 16:51:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> ah, yes 16:51:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> it makes for example 5 pickups on one ofthe stations but well .. :) for a difference 16:52:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 16:52:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> and several drops, if several industries need the same raw material? 16:52:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> no just one transfer, and from there zero distance re-delivery 16:52:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 16:53:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 16:53:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> but I think at least some more stations would use the industry set better 16:53:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> it just looks wrong to pack everything together 16:54:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> a large complex can look nice 16:54:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> but where is the point in 20+ different goods if you just have ~10 different connections 16:55:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> huge main stations with various pickups, eyecandy transfers etc 16:55:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmmhmm 16:55:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> I think ~5 stations for secondaries would give a more interesting network 16:55:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> I didnt say 3 is final number 16:56:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> and better traffic distributions 16:56:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> some industries still dont fit perfectly 16:58:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm 16:58:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> the only effect I reach by more stations is really just more stations, but it doesnt fit any better :x 17:07:09 <mfb-> :p 17:07:11 *** kuch3n has joined #openttdcoop 17:08:31 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 17:10:53 <kuch3n> @quickstart 17:11:12 <kuch3n> !help 17:11:45 <PublicServer> kuch3n: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 18:40:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> the most fixed together group is food industries 18:40:52 <kuch3n> which channel has the public server? 18:40:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> if I get those away of the top right group, I suddenly have 2 drops for sugar and grain without a real reason :x 18:40:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> this one kuch3n 18:40:56 <mfb-> this is the channel of the public server 18:41:19 <Webster> timed out - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 18:42:06 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop 18:42:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 18:42:07 <^ekipS^> ah under 200 again 18:42:14 <^ekipS^> and there is webster 18:42:14 <kuch3n> hellp webster 18:42:14 <^ekipS^> rest should follow soon then :) 18:42:17 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop 18:42:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tneo 18:42:37 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop 18:43:14 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop 18:43:35 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop 18:43:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ammler 18:43:51 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop 18:43:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 18:43:51 <PublicServer> <ppetak> use extreme amount of eyecandy :D 18:44:07 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 18:44:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 18:44:29 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop 18:44:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Osai 18:44:47 <^ekipS^> SmatZ_ meet SmatZ! know him yet? :D 18:44:57 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop 18:44:57 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 18:44:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o XeryusTC 18:44:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 18:45:27 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 18:45:27 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 18:45:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> WHICH TARD 18:46:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> just nuked my trainyard 18:46:20 <PublicServer> <StarLite> ? ;) 18:46:21 <^Spike^> check logs? :) 18:46:28 <PublicServer> <Brenhein> brb 18:46:31 <PublicServer> *** Brenhein has left the game (leaving) 18:46:41 *** brenhein has quit IRC 18:46:55 <^Spike^> you mean brenhein did it 18:47:00 <^Spike^> i dont need logs for that 18:47:13 <kuch3n> i cant find the welcome server on the server list 18:47:14 <^ekipS^> How to give awawy i did it... 18:47:27 <^ekipS^> when some asys: Who did it -> LEAVE! 18:47:29 <^ekipS^> :D 18:47:31 <Vbignum> I guess 18:47:32 <Vbignum> lol 18:48:19 *** StarLite has joined #openttdcoop 18:48:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> he was also the only one in the company and ppetak is innocent I am sure :) 18:49:42 <dnf> I'm always good boy 18:49:44 <dnf> :D 18:50:09 *** brenhein has joined #openttdcoop 18:51:28 <Vbignum> you better tell me a single reason why to mass dynamite brenhein 18:51:58 <dnf> I see I have to play some games offline .. lots of things changed from last time I played with you .. 18:52:08 <brenhein> to get banned. trolol 18:52:10 <brenhein> cya all 18:52:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> just a different game this time 18:52:13 *** brenhein has quit IRC 18:52:21 <Vbignum> lol 18:52:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> where was the train yard? 18:52:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> still is mfb 18:52:31 <PublicServer> <StarLite> Tutson 18:52:48 *** ^Spike^ sets mode: +b *!*@96-42-147-193.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com 18:52:50 <^Spike^> he asked for it 18:52:53 <^Spike^> i don't mind helping 18:52:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 18:53:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have the wagons nicely set up and distributed so all cargoes get its own wagon 18:53:42 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 18:54:27 <^Spike^> V 18:54:35 <^Spike^> we can also go back to an autosave btw if it was alot of work 18:54:41 <^Spike^> i don't think much happend in the mean time? 18:54:45 <PublicServer> <StarLite> isn't it pretty straightforward which carriage to choose? 18:54:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> no it was basically nothing 18:54:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> just rails Spike 18:54:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> StarLite: it isnt really 18:55:00 <PublicServer> <StarLite> or are there multiple possibilities with these grfs? 18:55:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you want every cargo to have a different one and fitting 18:55:04 <Webster> Latest update from dznews: NewGRF Meta Language - NML 0.2.1 released <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/61> 18:55:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> there are many possibilities 18:55:19 <PublicServer> <StarLite> ahh 18:55:21 <PublicServer> <StarLite> i see 18:55:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> I spent a long time doing it for my old single player game 18:55:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> so now I am just compying it 18:55:34 <PublicServer> <StarLite> you dont want oil and chemicals to have the same carriages? 18:55:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> exactly 18:55:42 <PublicServer> <StarLite> I see 18:56:04 <PublicServer> <StarLite> I noticed that with the standard trainset, if you refit the carriages, they look different. 18:56:08 <dnf> when the planning/voting ends? 18:56:25 <mfb-> when it is done 18:56:32 <mfb-> probably tomorrow 18:56:42 <PublicServer> <StarLite> but I guess one carriage can carry more then others 18:57:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> just try to make your own train yard 18:57:19 <PublicServer> *** StarLite has joined company #1 18:57:52 <PublicServer> <StarLite> omg, I never looked at the trains/carriages yet.. 18:57:59 <PublicServer> <StarLite> thats indeed an insane amount of choice :o 18:58:06 <PublicServer> *** {TWerkhoven[l]} has joined company #1 18:58:22 <PublicServer> <ppetak> uff, just looking at it 18:58:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> there are many train sets to enable that choice 18:59:14 <PublicServer> <StarLite> Just out of curiosity: what does a 'brake van' do? 18:59:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on train set 18:59:31 <TWerkhoven[l]> nothing, it is simply needed with some trains in some train sets 18:59:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt ever do anything, but some sets require them to be on certain trains 18:59:43 <PublicServer> <StarLite> aha 18:59:45 <Qanael> !password 18:59:45 <PublicServer> Qanael: fisher 18:59:55 <PublicServer> *** Qanael joined the game 19:01:15 <PublicServer> <StarLite> woo, turbine jet trains :o 19:02:09 <PublicServer> *** {TWerkhoven[l]} has joined spectators 19:03:03 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 19:03:16 *** ^ekipS^ has quit IRC 19:03:21 <PublicServer> <StarLite> If it sais "Suitable for: Express passengers" , does it mean it cannot pull anything other then passengers? or isn't that enforced (yet)? 19:03:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> probably that 19:03:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> but with the different train sets it is likely that the train might accept some cargo wagons from other sets 19:03:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on how it is coded 19:03:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> some do 19:03:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> some dont 19:04:17 <PublicServer> <StarLite> aha, indeed. I cannot put Boxcars on a eurostar train 19:05:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok this is it :) 19:06:05 <PublicServer> <StarLite> Is that maximized for amounts it can carry for that specific TL? 19:06:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 19:06:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is made to look nice 19:06:37 <PublicServer> <StarLite> cool :) 19:06:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> not all wagonos "fit" the cargo well 19:06:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you went just for capacity, many would be the same 19:07:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> was the sand wagon the template for the nya-wagons? :p 19:07:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it sure makes some sense capacity wise, but it is not the main factor 19:07:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> no :d 19:09:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> we have two wunfingways 19:09:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> one is on sea :) 19:09:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> on lake rather :) 19:09:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> I see(a) 19:09:43 *** Firartix has quit IRC 19:10:04 <PublicServer> <StarLite> kenfingway-on-sea isnt even near any water :P 19:10:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh thanks for grouping the trainyard :) 19:10:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> fenway-on-sea as well 19:12:06 <PublicServer> <mfb> @V: LLRR or LLLRRR at your MLs? 19:12:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> main ring should be LLL RRR I guess 19:12:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> can expand anytime :) 19:13:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> the clusters will probably need a lot more than LL_RR :) 19:13:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> expanding LLLRRR to LLLLRRRR is easier than LLRR->LLLRRR->LLLLRRRR 19:13:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes for sure 19:13:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is why I put LLL 19:13:32 <mfb-> that is why I asked ;) 19:13:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> good question, thanks :) 19:13:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> kinda forgot to write that after the flood of other signs :D 19:14:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 19:14:26 <PublicServer> *** ppetak has left the game (leaving) 19:15:28 <PublicServer> <StarLite> its easy to find !plans now , just look for insane sign spammage ;) 19:15:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> :)) 19:15:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> normal with FIRS 19:15:57 <PublicServer> <StarLite> yeh 19:16:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok my hugecandy madness plan is ready :) 19:18:34 <PublicServer> <Qanael> By "transfered by local functional eyecandy", do you mean actual trains or just one big station that does the whole thing with lots of decoration? 19:18:42 <^Spike^> ... :) 19:19:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> simply said: there is a huge complex. It has 1 drop station. To this drop station is transfered cargo, for example coal at cluster 1. Then eyecandy trains pick that coal up and distribute it between steel mill, brick works and cement plant. 19:19:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> so it is eyecandy, but it also has a purpose 19:19:58 <PublicServer> <StarLite> gtg guys, see ya, looking forward to this game :D 19:20:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> and everywhere around is probably expected to be some huge field of eyecandy station tiles 19:20:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya :) 19:20:24 <Qanael> Ah, that is cool 19:20:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets make a small example 19:20:36 <Qanael> So have like a swarm of little transfer trains constantly going around in a cluster 19:20:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> might not be clear to more people than you :) 19:20:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> basically, yes 19:20:49 <PublicServer> *** StarLite has left the game (leaving) 19:20:52 <Qanael> Sounds like fun 19:21:54 <^Spike^> webchat isn't so bad it works on my ipad... 19:29:37 *** Eightbitpwny has left #openttdcoop 19:29:39 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven[l] has left the game (connection lost) 19:30:39 <PublicServer> <Qanael> Looks cool 19:30:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:30:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> how do I find out when the final wagons are available? 19:31:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> hardly 19:31:12 *** TWerkhoven2[l] has joined #openttdcoop 19:31:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> but sometime soon 19:31:58 <Vbignum> the final result is this 19:31:59 <Vbignum> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/Kingdom%20of%20FIRS%2C%202073-03-16.png 19:32:02 <Vbignum> alcohol is missing 19:32:52 <mfb-> metal looks like rails :D 19:34:51 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 19:35:01 <Maraxus> !password 19:35:01 <PublicServer> Maraxus: wicket 19:35:17 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 19:37:13 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 19:38:35 *** Etedris has joined #openttdcoop 19:39:27 <Etedris> !ip 19:39:28 <PublicServer> Etedris: ps.openttdcoop.org 19:41:28 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 19:42:31 <Etedris> !password 19:42:32 <PublicServer> Etedris: wicket 19:42:49 <PublicServer> *** Etedris joined the game 19:43:25 <PublicServer> *** Etedris has joined company #1 19:44:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, nice oil wells 19:44:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont play FIRS much, do you? p 19:44:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 19:44:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> just played around a bit with the PZ savegame 19:45:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> old version :) 19:46:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 0.6.4 could also be considered old nowadays, but meh :) 19:50:01 <PublicServer> *** Etedris has left the game (leaving) 19:59:53 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 20:01:24 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:08:29 <PublicServer> *** Qanael has left the game (leaving) 20:20:43 *** TWerkhoven2[l] is now known as TWerkhoven[l] 20:21:41 <PublicServer> *** {TWerkhoven[l]} joined the game 20:46:23 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 20:46:53 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 20:46:53 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 20:46:54 <Webster> Hi! From all your Coop Friends! 20:47:11 <Vbignum> hi Mark :) 20:47:23 <Mark> 'lo 20:47:35 *** Vbignum has quit IRC 20:48:13 <V453000> are you sure about the LL_RR everywhere? :o I think L_R would be enough in most places there and LL_RR might become a major clusterfuck 20:49:19 <Mark> yeah im sure :P 20:49:36 * Mark loves clusterfucks 20:50:28 <Mark> i want 2k trains at least 20:50:36 <V453000> oh ok 20:50:51 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined company #1 21:18:02 *** bassasl has joined #openttdcoop 21:18:04 *** bassasl is now known as bassals 21:18:07 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 21:19:03 <PublicServer> *** bassals joined the game 21:38:14 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 21:38:14 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:46:10 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 21:46:10 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:48:40 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:57:38 <PublicServer> *** bassals has left the game (leaving) 21:57:57 *** bassals has quit IRC 22:07:51 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn 22:07:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> gn 22:08:03 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 22:08:03 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:08:18 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 22:21:07 <mfb-> need a cluster-finding algorithm :( 22:21:30 <^Spike^> ? 22:21:32 <Qanael> Hmm? 22:21:32 <^Spike^> for what 22:21:59 <mfb-> industry groups 22:23:49 *** dnf has quit IRC 22:24:53 <Qanael> As in finding groups of related industries on the map? 22:25:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> in the production chains, not on the map 22:25:20 <Qanael> Ah 22:27:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> crap 22:27:38 <PublicServer> * mfb gives up to make 4 nice groups 22:27:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? :o 22:28:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> no improvement over your 3-group-version 22:28:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> ah 22:28:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> 3-5 pickups per group 22:28:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> and a lot of shared drops 22:29:21 <Qanael> You could write something that parses a file with each industry's inputs and outputs and comes up with a coefficient of "relatedness" which adds a value for shared inputs or outputs 22:29:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 22:29:43 <Qanael> (sorry, I'm a programmer, I hear "algorithm" and I go into nuts mode) 22:29:48 *** tkjacobsen has joined #openttdcoop 22:29:54 <tkjacobsen> !password 22:29:54 <PublicServer> tkjacobsen: shyest 22:30:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, a tricky thing is "nothing should be used only where it is produced" 22:30:11 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 22:30:13 <PublicServer> *** tkjacobsen joined the game 22:30:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> and I tried "nothing should be used and produced at all at the same group" 22:31:05 <Qanael> You could try adding a negative value to the coefficient if a product is only used in that group, like a fuzzy logic type thing 22:31:18 <Qanael> But then you'll have to come up with all sorts of thresholds and weight values 22:31:22 <Qanael> Dunno if it's worthwhile 22:32:14 <mfb-> :D 22:32:19 <tkjacobsen> f #openttdcoop to: This channel is no longer on freenode. Please check the project website for more information. 22:32:35 <tkjacobsen> sry 22:32:36 <mfb-> voting for one of the existing versions is easier 22:35:22 *** Brumi has joined #openttdcoop 22:35:26 *** XaTriX has quit IRC 22:36:08 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 22:36:08 <PublicServer> *** Brumi joined the game 22:36:12 <PublicServer> <Brumi> hello 22:36:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 22:38:04 <PublicServer> <Brumi> so now there are 2 plans? 22:41:57 <kuch3n> why is the stable server toyland running? 22:42:33 <planetmaker> why not? 22:42:43 <kuch3n> looks ugly :> 22:43:02 <planetmaker> one can disagree 22:43:05 <PublicServer> <Brumi> opengfx toyland is way better :) 22:46:41 <KenjiE20> toyland ftw 22:47:49 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven[l] has left the game (leaving) 22:50:52 <PublicServer> <Brumi> anyway, is there any consensus when the most players will meet up here for some discussion and voting? 22:53:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> actually, grouping the outputs works well with 8 groups 22:54:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> just lime kiln does not fit in any system 22:57:40 <mfb-> brumi: usually in the afternoon/evening for europe 22:58:12 <Tray> !password 22:58:12 <PublicServer> Tray: wipers 22:58:32 <Tray> !dl win32 22:58:32 <PublicServer> Tray: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r23596/openttd-trunk-r23596-windows-win32.zip 23:00:41 <Tray> !password 23:00:43 <PublicServer> Tray: shrubs 23:00:46 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:00:46 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:00:49 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 23:04:57 <PublicServer> <Brumi> how long does the voting phase usually last? 23:05:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> <= 1 day 23:05:52 <PublicServer> <Tray> o man, a FIRS game sounds fun to me but I'm not a home from 27-29. ): 23:07:20 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 23:07:21 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:07:27 <mfb-> good night 23:07:30 <mfb-> the game will last longer 23:07:36 *** mfb- has quit IRC 23:07:37 <PublicServer> <Brumi> good night 23:07:49 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 23:07:56 *** Qanael has quit IRC 23:24:21 <PublicServer> <Brumi> well, I'm really looking forward to this game :) 23:24:27 <PublicServer> <Brumi> good night 23:24:33 <PublicServer> *** Brumi has left the game (leaving) 23:26:33 <PublicServer> *** tkjacobsen has left the game (leaving) 23:27:33 *** Brumi has left #openttdcoop 23:31:31 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:43:43 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 23:54:26 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 23:56:12 *** Tray has quit IRC 23:59:09 *** SmatZ_ has quit IRC