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Log for #openttdcoop on 14th February 2012:
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02:32:56  <LoPo> !screen
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03:51:28  <PublicServer> Firestar: enemas
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04:16:04  <PublicServer> Rhamphoryncus: enemas
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04:16:26  <Rhamphoryncus> Who the heck made that word list?
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09:03:22  <Rhamphoryncus> heya bassals
09:03:29  <bassals> hello
09:03:50  <Rhamphoryncus> sup?
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10:22:38  <mfb-> hi
10:22:39  <mfb-> !players
10:22:42  <PublicServer> mfb-: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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11:36:34  <LoPo> hi
11:36:40  <LoPo> !password
11:36:41  <PublicServer> LoPo: wields
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11:39:52  <mfb-> hi
11:39:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yo
11:40:02  <PublicServer> <LoPo> no train game :(
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11:40:26  <mfb-> !password
11:40:26  <PublicServer> mfb-: babier
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11:40:45  <mfb-> small map
11:40:50  <Rhamphoryncus> heya mfb
11:41:23  <Maraxus> !password
11:41:23  <PublicServer> Maraxus: babier
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11:41:48  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
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11:46:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
11:46:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> how is the welcome to PSG... text done?
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11:46:40  <V453000> !password
11:46:40  <PublicServer> V453000: babier
11:46:49  <PublicServer> <LoPo> non company
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11:47:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> non company would have been grey :o
11:47:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah
11:47:09  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow
11:47:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> but it is not grey
11:48:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh omg one way roads without arrows
11:48:25  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah
11:48:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> looks strange
11:48:30  <PublicServer> <LoPo> with signs :S
11:48:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> not my game
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11:48:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol :P
11:48:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> because of the arrows? :D
11:48:53  <V453000> no because of everything
11:48:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> because of the _ lack_  of arrows
11:49:04  <V453000> ship/RV, super ugly trees, no trains :(
11:49:55  <V453000> I intended to make a TL1 trains but trains dont even work as the industries break them
11:50:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> industries break trains?
11:50:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting
11:50:39  <V453000> ogfx+ industries...
11:50:58  <V453000> anyway, the signs are done in the scenario editor ... apparently a new way how those are treated
11:51:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah
11:52:38  <PublicServer> <LoPo> plan done :)
11:54:32  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow fk
11:58:24  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k fixed :)
11:59:14  <PublicServer> <LoPo> where did all that money came from? :P
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11:59:46  <PublicServer> <mfb> earned with pax transport!
11:59:46  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
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12:05:38  <mfb-> we have a lot of timeouts here
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12:05:51  <mfb-> just try to reconnect
12:05:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky, it looks like the website is offline as well
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12:06:36  <mfb-> website != IRC-net
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12:07:02  <LoPo> woot :)
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13:14:51  <Firestar> !password
13:14:51  <PublicServer> Firestar: inters
13:15:01  <Firestar> anything new?
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13:16:47  <mfb-> a third plan
13:16:57  <PublicServer> <Firestar> be right back
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13:21:57  <Firestar> !password
13:21:57  <PublicServer> Firestar: inters
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13:29:46  <Rhamphoryncus> !password
13:29:46  <PublicServer> Rhamphoryncus: potter
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13:32:13  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> Nice plan LoPo
13:32:20  <LoPo> thx
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16:44:52  <Mark> g'day
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17:30:26  <nicfer> !password
17:30:26  <PublicServer> nicfer: gamuts
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17:55:54  <Firestar> something new?
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17:58:16  <Firestar> !password
17:58:16  <PublicServer> Firestar: gamuts
17:58:33  <mfb-> still 3 plans?
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17:59:00  <Mark> there's not that many options with this map and scenario :P
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18:08:13  <Mark> !password
18:08:13  <PublicServer> Mark: gamuts
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18:09:50  <Mark> @stage Planning & Voting
18:09:50  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG226 (r23902) | STAGE: Planning & Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
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18:26:28  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> can I still make plans?
18:30:49  <Mark> sure
18:30:54  <Firestar> !password
18:30:54  <PublicServer> Firestar: drifts
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18:32:20  <Maraxus> !password
18:32:20  <PublicServer> Maraxus: drifts
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18:34:20  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I was thinking about a 'no bridges or terraforming on water' rule
18:35:02  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> so islands should have their resources transported by ship
18:41:36  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> one way MLs and two way SLs are mfb's plan
18:42:07  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> are -> like
18:43:06  <mfb-> ?
18:43:09  <mfb-> ah
18:43:55  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> canals can be built but can't be more than 10 tiles away from the ocean
18:44:20  <mfb-> is that new?
18:44:55  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> yeah, were you reading it all?
18:45:12  <mfb-> text in the game?
18:45:19  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> yup
18:45:27  <mfb-> I think I missed that point
18:45:36  <mfb-> well, canals of length 20 are fine
18:45:45  <mfb-> (up to 20)
18:46:08  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> no bridging or terraforming over water
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18:47:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> ehm
18:48:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> you mix game rules and plans?
18:48:30  <PublicServer> <mfb> or where do the 10 tiles come from?
18:48:40  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> only the one-way rule from your plan
18:48:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> for main roads
18:48:57  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> yeah
18:48:59  <PublicServer> <mfb> where is the connection to canals and TF?
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18:49:59  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> the terraforming was my idea
18:50:26  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> well, the no terraforming / bridges
18:56:15  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> are trams allowed in this game?
18:57:00  <theholyduck> sure
18:57:08  <theholyduck> Mark, loves his trams
18:57:12  <theholyduck> especially dem cargotrams
18:57:28  <Mark> traaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaams
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18:59:44  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> hmmm, maybe ML can be trams and SL roads?
19:00:06  <mfb-> lol
19:00:55  <Mark> trams are quite slow
19:01:04  <Mark> and rvs are pretty good and fast
19:01:59  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> maybe make it the reverse way?
19:05:43  <Mark> sure its your plan
19:05:48  <Mark> i wouldnt use trams though
19:07:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> a distance measurement with metric, nice
19:08:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> +-2
19:09:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> "only SLs can be two-way" is a bit confusing without any other reference to roads
19:10:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> does "no feeder stations" exclude any transfer?
19:10:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> that would make some connections impossible
19:10:42  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> with 'feeder stations' I meant no transfering
19:11:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> see !from here
19:12:59  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> kinda fixed
19:13:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah
19:13:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> that looks much better
19:16:33  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> maybe goods and food should be transported by trams?
19:17:28  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> that might add  some challenge, since trams are slower and would require a nearby drop zone
19:18:26  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> or more vehicles
19:26:25  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I also changed SLs to being only two-way for a bigger challenge
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20:04:06  <Firestar> !password
20:04:06  <PublicServer> Firestar: boxers
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20:05:27  <Chris_Booth> hi Firestar
20:05:53  <PublicServer> <bassals> oh new plan?
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20:06:07  <PublicServer> <Firestar> yes from nicfer
20:07:35  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> can I vote for myself?
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20:07:50  <PublicServer> <bassals> it's assumed that you vote for yourself
20:07:52  <PublicServer> <bassals> so no
20:08:32  <PublicServer> <Firestar> can someone who made a plan vote for someone else who made a different plan?
20:08:46  <PublicServer> <bassals> yes
20:09:08  <PublicServer> <bassals> nicfercoop: 10 tiles away from the ocean
20:09:23  <PublicServer> <bassals> does it also mean lakes?
20:09:29  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> yes
20:09:35  <PublicServer> <bassals> I mean ocean= any water
20:09:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hhhm
20:10:06  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I fixed that
20:10:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I see PAX RVs
20:10:30  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> there are no rivers it seems
20:10:32  <PublicServer> <Firestar> i think he means 10 tiles away from larger lakes
20:10:59  <PublicServer> <bassals> chris Booth: fifth plan?
20:11:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hell yes
20:12:14  <bassals> by the way
20:12:24  <bassals> is the page http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Road_stations outdated?
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20:12:47  <Joosta> !password
20:12:47  <PublicServer> Joosta: fading
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20:13:08  <PublicServer> <Firestar> seperated or speerated?
20:15:14  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> Firestar, it's separated not seperated
20:15:32  <PublicServer> <Firestar> sorry that im noob in english
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20:15:41  <basssals> !ping
20:15:41  <PublicServer> basssals: pong
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20:16:26  <PublicServer> <Firestar> i mean i could speak german or even hungarian too but no one else understands
20:17:46  <Joosta> how long does the planning stage usually last?
20:18:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 1 month Joosta
20:18:09  <theholyduck> :d
20:18:14  <Joosta> :P
20:18:25  <bassals> less than 4 days
20:18:26  <theholyduck> Joosta, til theres a winner?
20:18:27  <Firestar> :d
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20:19:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Right I am done
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20:19:08  <bassals> everyone makes a plan today
20:19:19  <bassals> because V didn't make one :-D
20:19:25  <PublicServer> <Firestar> you mean those who want to make one
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20:20:16  <Firestar> im off for today cya all tomorrow morning
20:20:19  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> votes are possitive here right?
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20:21:13  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> so we choose the best one
20:21:59  <mfb-> right
20:22:09  <PublicServer> <mfb> 5th plan :o
20:23:18  <theholyduck> nicfer first game eh?
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20:23:33  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I've been here before
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20:34:24  <Chris_Booth[ph]> Wacka Wacka
20:34:46  <PublicServer> <bassals> speerated?
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20:54:52  <V453000> you know the awesome feeling when you build something like 15 hours straight and it doesnt work? :D
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20:57:07  <hylje> V453000: yea
21:01:22  <bassals> «Take care about the rating at primary industry stations. It should be between 65 and 75 per cent. Not more, since the production of the industry would fall down.»
21:01:33  <bassals> wow is this true? I didn't know that :-)
21:01:52  <hylje> i think that's outdated or generally inaccurate
21:02:08  <bassals> is it?
21:02:19  <hylje> more is more
21:07:22  <Mark> !password
21:07:22  <PublicServer> Mark: sprigs
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21:10:01  <Chris_Booth> bonjour
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21:11:29  <nicfer-> !password
21:11:29  <PublicServer> nicfer-: rashes
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21:21:27  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn
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21:24:05  <V453000> it is absolutely outdated bassals, that is how the fluctuating (as it is called nowadays) economy works
21:24:36  <bassals> well I found it in an outdated page
21:24:43  <Mark> i want recessions back
21:24:50  <Mark> get your production halved all of a sudden
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21:25:25  <mfb-> too many plans, too few votes :(
21:26:53  <Chris_Booth> I shouldn't have added a 5th
21:27:08  <bassals> it seems that there's nothing in the wiki on RV hubs
21:27:25  <Chris_Booth> bassals: why would there be?
21:28:00  <bassals> perhaps you used complex hubs for RV too
21:28:10  <bassals> there's http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Road_stations
21:28:18  <mfb-> well
21:28:26  <mfb-> there is no real point in complex RV hubs
21:28:32  <bassals> but is marked to be outdated
21:28:39  <hylje> RVs are a gimped system
21:28:41  <mfb-> unless you do it really wrong, they won't block each other much
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21:31:43  <bassals> «it is much better to use [RoRo] than terminus stations. A terminus road station is as inefficient as a standard terminus rail station»
21:31:49  <Chris_Booth> The only reason I hae 2 networks it to keep fullspeed
21:31:50  <bassals> V453000 won't like this
21:32:03  <mfb-> :p
21:32:13  <V453000> LOL
21:32:21  <V453000> well, wiki is outdated
21:42:03  <Chris_Booth> Wiki is v/outdated on RVs
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21:54:26  <Chris_Booth> mfb-: vote for me
21:54:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> why?
21:54:54  <Chris_Booth> my plan is amazing
21:55:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> I prefer my plan - and Mark's, which is very similar
21:55:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> so in order to avoid a distribution between both, I vote for Mark's
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22:13:00  <V453000> 92% Sbahn and city is shrinking...
22:16:22  <Chris_Booth> I had that on .stable  the otherday
22:16:27  <Chris_Booth> and you called me a noob
22:16:39  <Chris_Booth> so here goes V453000 your a nobb
22:16:43  <Chris_Booth> noob not nobb
22:20:47  <V453000> yeah but my city has 130k people
22:22:07  <Chris_Booth> it should still grow
22:22:32  <Chris_Booth> you just need to have the correct layout
22:22:52  <LoPo> !password
22:22:52  <PublicServer> LoPo: burial
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22:25:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi
22:29:27  <V453000> just had a lazy part I guess ... growing again
22:32:25  <Mark> what are you doing?
22:32:31  <Mark> making sbahns in sp
22:32:32  <Mark> ?
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22:34:00  <V453000> Mark: yes
22:34:02  <V453000> testing something
22:35:11  <V453000> I have a certain ... thing that is pretty fucking mad :)
22:37:07  <mfb-> ? ;)
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22:37:38  <Joosta> !password
22:37:39  <PublicServer> Joosta: defame
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22:38:23  <V453000> mfb-: no spoilers! :P next game might be a metropolis game once again ... unless someone gets a better idea
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22:39:32  <mfb-> I have the idea to build four 4way-hubs with a gigantic footprint in my mind. like a # as network
22:40:13  <mfb-> similar to the hub we had in the south-west at PSG232+-2
22:40:35  <mfb-> oh
22:40:45  <mfb-> 222 ;)
22:41:07  <V453000> I have a Sbahn which is a # town and transfers to all 4 sides
22:41:36  <mfb-> so towns eventually merge together to a large urban area?
22:42:07  <V453000> no I have 1 town and it transfers outward ... where could be some SRNW or something which collects the pax from the edge
22:42:35  <mfb-> hmm
22:42:44  <mfb-> difficult to imagine for me
22:44:47  <Mark> V453000: do you know PSG140?
22:44:55  <V453000> guess if I do
22:45:22  <Mark> what youre doing sounds similair to my sbahn there
22:46:03  <V453000> actually sort of yes but I have 1 order group for all trains in it
22:46:38  <Mark> that was a shiiiiitload of work
22:47:06  <mfb-> you know, we can do a shiiiiitload of work together
22:47:13  <V453000> ^
22:47:41  <V453000> !password
22:47:41  <PublicServer> V453000: wryest
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22:48:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb: see sign !town
22:49:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is sort of the idea
22:49:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> just a lot of SBahn lines in a town?
22:49:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much
22:49:55  <Mark> !password
22:49:56  <PublicServer> Mark: wryest
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