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Log for #openttdcoop on 15th February 2012:
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10:38:44  <Ryton> @status
10:38:44  <Webster> Ryton: I am connected to oftc as Webster.
10:38:52  <Ryton> !screenshot
10:39:04  <Ryton> @screenshot
10:39:20  <Ryton> !help
10:39:20  <PublicServer> Ryton: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
10:39:23  <bassals> !screen
10:39:23  <PublicServer> *** bassals liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002F3D.png)
10:39:25  <Ryton> ty
10:39:32  <Ryton> its been a while :-)
10:39:34  <bassals> anyway it does not work
10:39:57  <Ryton> it is not actual ?
10:40:16  <bassals> it only takes screenshots when restarting the server
10:40:50  <bassals> otherways it says that nobody's been working
10:41:07  <V453000> welcome back Ryton :)
10:45:02  <Ryton> ty V :-)
10:45:28  <Ryton> I saw some free for all sideline saves in the archive? how has it been
10:45:41  <Ryton> any new developments lately?
10:46:07  <Ryton> lets see if I still know how to get the latest version :-)
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10:47:56  <V453000> I dont remember for how long have you been gone but sure there has been some progress as always :p
10:48:25  <Ryton> true. I think its been about 7-8 psgs:-)
10:50:36  <Ryton> btw, the blog about the Day[9].tv channel was interesting :-)
10:50:50  <Ryton> I love SCII commentaries
10:51:40  <V453000> :)
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11:01:38  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah, still voting phase
11:02:44  <PublicServer> <Ryton> cool, new zoom levels are supported now too?
11:03:47  <PublicServer> <Ryton> or was that always possible (but just not for me, since I used old GFX files)?
11:03:59  <bassals> it's new
11:04:15  <bassals> well, was added in december I think
11:05:55  <Mark> goodmorning folks
11:05:59  <PublicServer> <Ryton> quite a a-typical scenario :-)
11:06:01  <PublicServer> <Ryton> hi mark
11:09:38  <Mark> @op
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11:09:39  <Mark> !password
11:09:39  <PublicServer> Mark: boasts
11:12:30  <Mark> of course
11:12:30  <Mark> !password
11:12:30  <PublicServer> Mark: hatted
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11:13:52  <PublicServer> <Ryton> could some-one explain me, how nicfer's plan includes the islands?
11:14:04  <PublicServer> <Ryton> w/o bridges or terraforming :s and no word on ships
11:14:23  <hylje> station walking obviously
11:14:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> probably does use ships
11:14:39  <PublicServer> <Ryton> hehe hylje :-D
11:14:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> using canals and not being able to bridge them is a bit weird
11:15:05  <PublicServer> <bassals> I understand that he allows bridges
11:15:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> there arent many islands btw :P
11:15:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> just 1 big one
11:15:23  <PublicServer> <Ryton> yeah, thats the one I refer to
11:15:33  <PublicServer> <bassals> just no raising water tiles to build shorter bridges
11:15:41  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah oke
11:16:45  <Mark> need more votes
11:17:00  <Mark> lets start the mayhem
11:17:03  <PublicServer> <Ryton> your plan needs more votes, or the game in general does? ;-)
11:17:07  <Mark> any plan really
11:17:09  <Mark> not too bothered
11:17:23  <Mark> just want to play with some trucks :P
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11:18:03  <PublicServer> <Ryton> here you go :p
11:18:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> one thing about cb's plan: the fastest cargo tram is 49kmh
11:18:28  <PublicServer> <Ryton> tough 1 vote differnce probably isnt desciding enough yet? ;)
11:18:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> nope
11:18:44  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah... that ***
11:18:51  <PublicServer> <Ryton> its like maglev /20 :-)
11:19:03  <PublicServer> <Ryton> in that case, let me reconsider :-)
11:20:22  <PublicServer> <Ryton> hard choice: plain and simple rules (your plan, mark) or everything connected (lopo)
11:20:49  <Mark> mine is chaos & eye-candy pretty much
11:21:09  <PublicServer> <Ryton> yeah, that has an appealing factor imho
11:21:28  <PublicServer> <Ryton> with road vehicles, the network wont be so special anyway
11:21:40  <PublicServer> <Ryton> and if one wants to, it can always be made special locally
11:22:10  <PublicServer> <Ryton> I'll go for your plan then  ;-)
11:22:16  <PublicServer> <Ryton> good campain :p
11:22:21  <Mark> yay :)
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11:35:43  <V453000> have we got documented the way gigantic towns should be treated? Like a correct road layout?
11:37:13  <Mark> doubt it
11:37:20  <Mark> dont think we've perfected that art yet :P
11:37:38  <Mark> using tunnels etc...
11:38:21  <V453000> well grow tunnels are a cheat imo :)
11:39:19  <V453000> but I have 2 games, in one I didnt really care much about it, but the city has a nice center, and not a single road has a bridge/tunnel/road crossing and the town is stuck at 120-140k. Then I made another try with straight roads directly from the center and it grows like mad
11:41:40  <V453000> 200k in 10 years opposed to 120k in 200 years ..
11:42:22  <Mark> hmm
11:42:27  <Mark> i dont think it matters that much really
11:42:44  <Mark> ive had towns grow to 1m without paying too much attention to road layout
11:43:33  <V453000> then you were lucky :)
11:43:45  <Mark> well just look at game 140
11:43:46  <V453000> to choose the right one
11:43:53  <V453000> 140 has a good layout of roads
11:44:01  <V453000> long straight roads from the city center
11:44:17  <Mark> yeah i suppose
11:44:17  <V453000> the Thijs center is ridiculous :-D
11:46:12  <V453000> i sez next game metropolils :p
11:46:31  <Mark> :)
11:46:34  <Mark> i wont be there
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11:47:14  <V453000> why not? .o
11:47:24  <Mark> going skiing for another 3 weeks on friday :)
11:47:33  <V453000> hmm
11:47:38  <LoPo> hi
11:47:44  <Mark> hello
11:48:05  <LoPo> !password
11:48:05  <PublicServer> LoPo: hooped
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12:01:33  <V453000> half a million with only 20 busses in 25 years ...
12:02:04  <V453000> yeah the old design of roads certainly was worse :D
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14:23:20  <V453000> hmmm I have 2 exactly the same cities with one exception - one has growing tunnels, one doesnt. So far there is no difference between them regarding total population :o
14:23:24  <V453000> they are like dead even
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14:28:37  <Firestar> !grf
14:28:37  <PublicServer> Firestar: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 8.0)
14:29:53  <Rhamphoryncus> !players
14:29:56  <PublicServer> Rhamphoryncus: Client 673 is LoPo, a spectator
14:30:15  <Rhamphoryncus> !password
14:30:15  <PublicServer> Rhamphoryncus: camels
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14:31:51  <PublicServer> Firestar: camels
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14:32:23  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hiya
14:32:26  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> yo
14:32:28  <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi
14:32:50  <PublicServer> <Firestar> ive got a new pc now! :D
14:32:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> nice :)
14:33:00  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> cool
14:34:02  <PublicServer> <Firestar> this time we could play with Brazilian Real (BRL) currency units
14:34:44  <bassals> ok, I don't pay much atention to money anyways
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14:38:02  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> I assume there's no special membership requirement to vote?
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14:38:53  <Mark> !password
14:38:53  <PublicServer> Mark: camels
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14:46:00  <LoPo> ey CB
14:46:16  <Chris_Booth> Hi LoPo
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14:47:42  <Absolutis> !password
14:47:42  <PublicServer> Absolutis: spokes
14:47:43  <Absolutis> hey
14:47:47  <LoPo> Rhamphoryncus: no everybody may vote
14:47:50  <LoPo> hello :)
14:47:59  <Rhamphoryncus> LoPo: thanks
14:48:07  <Absolutis> i haven't been here for a while, anything major?
14:48:17  <LoPo> not realy
14:48:26  <LoPo> voting statge atm
14:48:33  <Absolutis> !dl win32
14:48:33  <PublicServer> Absolutis: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r23902/openttd-trunk-r23902-windows-win32.zip
14:49:12  <Chris_Booth> how are the votes looking?
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14:49:30  <Absolutis> !password
14:49:30  <PublicServer> Absolutis: spokes
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14:51:40  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmm
14:51:48  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i have to go with mark on this
14:52:04  <Chris_Booth> I liked Marks plan
14:52:37  <LoPo> :(
14:52:59  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmm
14:53:21  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> chaotic road construction?
14:53:41  <PublicServer> <LoPo> we will have "chaotic" roads anyway
14:53:51  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> like no plan
14:53:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> no
14:54:07  <PublicServer> <LoPo> compared with Marks plan
14:54:10  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> on Marks i mean
14:54:16  <PublicServer> <LoPo> imo my plan is not chaotic
14:54:23  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> it
14:54:34  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> it's not, but i mean mark's
14:54:40  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky
14:55:11  <Chris_Booth> If you don't want chaos then vote for me!
14:55:12  <Chris_Booth> XD
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14:56:44  <bassals> are we still in a 3-4-1?
14:56:53  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> no, a 4-4-1
14:56:59  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i voted for mark
14:57:02  <bassals> oh perfect
15:00:28  <Chris_Booth> I vote for Mark aswell
15:00:34  <Chris_Booth> that makes it 5-4-1
15:01:00  <Chris_Booth> that also means I withdraw my plan
15:01:14  <Rhamphoryncus> !password
15:01:14  <PublicServer> Rhamphoryncus: groins
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15:02:32  <Rhamphoryncus> Chris_Booth: want me to put the sign up for you?
15:03:10  <Chris_Booth> Yes please, I am at word and can't join anythin apart from the IRC
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15:07:24  <Nithius> What program can I use to install YACD to my base game?
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15:08:38  <planetmaker> none. YACD is a separate OpenTTD version
15:08:48  <planetmaker> incompatible with all others
15:08:59  <Nithius> oh..alright thanks
15:09:03  <planetmaker> (unless you spend lots of time fixing the incompatibilities)
15:09:53  <Chris_Booth> when was the last YACD merge?
15:10:00  <planetmaker> long ago :-)
15:10:56  <Nithius> ok i must be confused. I downloaded a "yacd.patch" file so I guess my question should be how do I add a patch
15:11:15  <planetmaker> the solution there is: compile the game from source code
15:11:56  <planetmaker> thus you first need to be able to compile OpenTTD w/o any patches. And when that works, then you can try to patch it
15:12:37  <Chris_Booth> there is a wiki atricle on wiki.openttd.org about building/compiling
15:12:47  <Absolutis> or you can use a ready binary
15:13:29  <planetmaker> indeed: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/yacd/
15:13:40  <planetmaker> but there you see: it's more than 8 months old
15:20:21  <Nithius> "YACD will be released in form of a git-style patch, which any sane (this does not include TortoiseSVN) patch tool will be able to apply (use -p1 for the standard GNU patch). "
15:21:16  <Nithius> I cant find these "patch tools"
15:21:59  <Chris_Booth> good SVN
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15:22:05  <mfb-> hi
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15:22:39  <Chris_Booth> Nithius: google SVN but don't download TortoiseSVN(Its very hard to use!)
15:22:55  <Nithius> Ok.
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17:57:26  <nicfer> what's a good starting year for 2cc trainset?
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18:55:54  <Rhamphoryncus> "good" and "starting year" is not something I've figured out for any train set
18:57:24  <Rhamphoryncus> Nor have I found a trainset I generally like (largely because I do want to continue into the monorail/maglev era)
19:05:03  <V453000> hehe
19:05:20  <V453000> well I dont think 2cc train set has a good start either as it probably isnt a good train set :)
19:05:28  <V453000> or at least I dont like it regardless of the starting year
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19:38:58  <Firestar> !password
19:38:58  <PublicServer> Firestar: supple
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20:19:24  <Maraxus> !password
20:19:24  <PublicServer> Maraxus: paddle
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20:22:44  <V453000> !password
20:22:45  <PublicServer> V453000: paddle
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20:25:33  <LoPo> did i win? :P
20:25:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> 5-4 so far
20:27:24  <LoPo> ey Mark, did you sent an SMS to Radio 3FM?
20:27:42  <LoPo> or Twitter Message?
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20:40:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi
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21:11:33  <PublicServer> sane: bigots
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21:21:51  <PublicServer> Tray: bigots
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21:24:41  <Maraxus> !password
21:24:41  <PublicServer> Maraxus: bigots
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22:02:25  <LoPo> !password
22:02:25  <PublicServer> LoPo: keeled
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22:45:18  <mfb-> anything new in the game?
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