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00:05:25 *** Steven has joined #openttdcoop 00:06:14 <Steven> !password 00:06:14 <PublicServer> Steven: milled 00:06:20 <PublicServer> *** Steven has left the game (connection lost) 00:07:02 <PublicServer> *** Steven joined the game 00:08:04 *** Razaekal has joined #openttdcoop 00:08:04 *** Razaekel is now known as Guest451 00:08:04 *** Razaekal is now known as Razaekel 00:09:05 <XeryusTC> Mazur: have you registered on my link in the end btw? 00:09:53 <Mazur> I have put my name and email in, yes, not looked at the email yet. Dealing with a double login (likely) on stable. 00:10:23 <XeryusTC> ah ok :) 00:13:14 *** Guest451 has quit IRC 00:13:25 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 00:15:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my gawd, the Gs on deceleration of those planes must be lethal 00:17:05 <KenjiE20> XeryusTC: if you want to know what salem is like, play Haven and Hearth 00:17:35 <XeryusTC> yeah, friends told me it is the same 00:17:54 <KenjiE20> yup, same guy(s) 00:17:59 <XeryusTC> but i cant remember having played haven and hearth 00:18:05 <XeryusTC> even though they say that i have 00:18:22 <KenjiE20> you get eaten by bears, boars, russians and ants 00:18:32 <KenjiE20> sometimes you make a farm 00:18:35 <KenjiE20> :p 00:18:36 <XeryusTC> some sandbox mmo with permadeath 00:18:45 <KenjiE20> yeah 00:21:48 <XeryusTC> sounds like fun 00:21:52 <XeryusTC> plan is to do a let´s play 00:22:00 <XeryusTC> which will probably be my last let´s play ever 00:22:13 <XeryusTC> since i dont actually like watching let´s plays myself :P 00:34:29 <XeryusTC> ! test 00:34:29 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ai=-1 00:34:33 <XeryusTC> !say test 00:35:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I've timetabled the planes and synched them again. 00:35:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> \o/ 00:35:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ctrl+watching the planes is fun btw :P 00:35:38 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, these are pretty fast. :-) 00:36:05 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Gotta wtach out for travel sickness, though. 00:36:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> never mind the Gs when landing ;) 00:36:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 2.5 mach to 500km/h cant be good for you 00:36:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> mach 2.5 even :P 00:37:23 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Man was not meant to go this fast. 00:37:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, it is not the speed itself which kills 00:37:41 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's what they said of the first cars. 00:37:43 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just the acceleration 00:37:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or rapid deceleration 00:38:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, when I'm eating, don;t take away the celery too fast or I can;t enjoy it. 00:38:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ? 00:39:02 <PublicServer> <Mazur> De-celer-ation. 00:39:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD 00:39:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> far fetched 00:39:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> planes on NW SE are out of sync it seems :o 00:39:38 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I gots jme a big reach. 00:39:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, they keep doing that. 00:40:05 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Despite the timetable. 00:40:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if you timetable you have to reset the late counter after they arive the first time 00:40:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I did. 00:41:10 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, Aircraft 3 is not keeping up. 00:41:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'll just restart. 00:41:54 <XeryusTC> oh btw, these planes ¨only¨ do mach 2.1 00:42:16 <planetmaker> mach 2.1 = 2500 km/h? 00:43:14 <XeryusTC> 2575 00:43:22 <XeryusTC> mach 1 = 1225 00:44:03 <planetmaker> for a guestimate without lookup I think I was pretty close :-) 00:45:17 <XeryusTC> yeah :) 00:45:24 <XeryusTC> i estimated the planes to go at mach 2.5 00:45:33 <XeryusTC> mach 1 being about 1000km/h 00:45:44 <XeryusTC> but apparently, mach 1 is the speed of sound in air at 15C 00:46:11 <planetmaker> 1000 km/h is rather about 0.9 mach ;-) 00:46:18 <XeryusTC> yeah 00:46:29 <XeryusTC> i knew only that mach 1 is the speed of sound 00:46:30 <planetmaker> as the planes usually travel at 970 km/h or so 00:46:44 <planetmaker> and they're still a good margin below the sound barrier due to energetic reasons 00:46:45 <XeryusTC> and i know that planes usually travel just below mach 1 00:46:52 <planetmaker> 10% 00:46:54 <planetmaker> :-P 00:47:13 <planetmaker> depending on model, though 00:47:23 <Khol__> !password 00:47:23 <PublicServer> Khol__: instep 00:47:24 <XeryusTC> the air that flows over the wings can go supersonic sometimes though 00:47:52 <planetmaker> which is bad 00:47:59 <planetmaker> it eats fuel like no tomorrow 00:48:16 <XeryusTC> i wouldnt know about that 00:48:17 <planetmaker> it creates vortices 00:48:26 <planetmaker> and vibrations 00:48:30 <XeryusTC> but it happens quite often on jetplanes usually 00:48:38 <XeryusTC> well, it mainly creates shockwaves 00:48:55 <XeryusTC> everything that moves through the air creates vortices 00:49:13 <planetmaker> not quite 00:49:36 <planetmaker> and minimizing their creation is what pays the bill for 50% of the aerospace engineering people 00:51:06 <XeryusTC> true, they mostly get payed to get planes to travel a bit faster savily 00:51:51 <planetmaker> not really faster. A lot goes into less fuel and less sound 00:52:03 <planetmaker> Speed is limited by the sound barrier kinda. 00:52:14 <planetmaker> And thus you want to minimize vortex generation 00:52:22 <Mazur> By money, more like. 00:52:24 <planetmaker> which is the main cause of drag 00:52:31 <XeryusTC> vortex = drag 00:52:35 <planetmaker> exactly 00:52:44 <planetmaker> they suck the energy 00:53:05 <XeryusTC> its why F1 cars are so fiddly with their aerodynamics, to create the vortices in the right place 00:53:11 <XeryusTC> and keep them as small as possible 00:53:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Mazur: no plan? 00:54:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, I got a plan. 00:54:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not being here too much. 00:54:34 <PublicServer> <Mazur> ;-) 00:55:47 <XeryusTC> xD 00:55:57 <dwarf> !password 00:55:57 <PublicServer> dwarf: piques 00:56:12 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 00:56:35 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 00:57:55 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 00:58:03 <PublicServer> *** Steven has left the game (leaving) 00:58:03 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 01:02:03 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 01:06:43 *** Razaekal has joined #openttdcoop 01:06:43 *** Razaekel is now known as Guest454 01:06:44 *** Razaekal is now known as Razaekel 01:12:07 *** Guest454 has quit IRC 01:37:02 *** Jupix has joined #openttdcoop 01:38:51 *** Jupix2 has quit IRC 02:36:42 *** pugi_ has joined #openttdcoop 02:37:38 *** Khol__ has quit IRC 02:42:39 *** pugi has quit IRC 02:42:40 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 02:58:01 *** Steven has quit IRC 04:03:00 <dwarf> !password 04:03:00 <PublicServer> dwarf: piques 04:03:04 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (connection lost) 04:03:06 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 04:03:16 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 04:03:16 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 04:04:00 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 04:31:33 *** Rhamphoryncus has quit IRC 05:46:37 *** thecogwheel has quit IRC 05:53:46 *** pugi has quit IRC 05:59:04 *** UncleCJ has joined #openttdcoop 06:46:30 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop 06:52:27 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 06:56:19 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 06:57:10 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 07:18:13 *** UncleCJ has left #openttdcoop 07:19:20 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 07:20:25 *** Razaekal has joined #openttdcoop 07:20:25 *** Razaekel is now known as Guest492 07:20:25 *** Razaekal is now known as Razaekel 07:21:09 <dwarf> !password 07:21:09 <PublicServer> dwarf: piques 07:21:21 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:21:22 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 07:23:58 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 07:24:54 *** Guest492 has quit IRC 07:26:50 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 07:28:35 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 07:28:53 <dwarf> oh, more and more people 07:31:22 <hylje> yes 07:33:54 <dwarf> do you always wait for 3 plans before voting? 07:36:35 <planetmaker> makes for a better vote 07:37:06 <planetmaker> Always is a strong word and I'm not sure it'll hold for every single map from the past, but it's a very common thing. 07:48:47 <Meechtastic> hi 07:58:03 <dwarf> hi 07:59:42 *** Tray has quit IRC 08:08:15 <Meechtastic> !password 08:08:15 <PublicServer> Meechtastic: piques 08:08:33 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:08:34 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech joined the game 08:09:28 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:09:29 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 08:09:32 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hi 08:09:35 <PublicServer> <dwarf> hi 08:09:42 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 08:09:42 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 08:09:44 <PublicServer> <dwarf> do you have a plan? 08:09:50 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> no 08:10:00 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> ive never made a plan before, im a noob 08:10:11 <PublicServer> <dwarf> ahh, me too :D 08:10:49 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 08:11:07 <Meechtastic> hi hazzard 08:11:15 <Hazzard> Hooray 08:11:18 <Hazzard> New game :D 08:11:31 <Hazzard> Hey Meechtastica 08:11:33 <Hazzard> !password 08:11:33 <PublicServer> Hazzard: piques 08:12:03 <Hazzard> !download 08:12:03 <PublicServer> Hazzard: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 08:12:03 <PublicServer> Hazzard: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r24119 08:12:40 <Hazzard> !info 08:12:40 <PublicServer> Hazzard: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Bloggs & Co.' Year Founded: 2100 Money: 8745324 Loan: 0 Value: 10046199 (T:1, R:0, P:5, S:0) unprotected 08:14:48 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 08:14:48 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 08:14:56 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 08:15:12 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has left the game (leaving) 08:16:06 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:16:06 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 08:16:43 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Rivers :/ 08:19:53 <Meechtastic> do you want me to join so you can make a plan? 08:19:55 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> There are a lot of industries 08:20:07 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Naw, I don't really want to make a plan 08:20:10 <Meechtastic> ok 08:20:14 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> you can make one if you want 08:20:24 <Meechtastic> my plan would be : haul crap xD 08:21:03 <Meechtastic> im a total noob, so i will wait a bit before i make a plan 08:21:24 <dwarf> me too 08:21:35 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hey, I am a noob too 08:21:38 <dwarf> I don't know what will happen next 08:22:13 <dwarf> how accurately will the planner tell what to bulild where? 08:22:24 <dwarf> assuming his plan wins 08:24:18 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Spam the land with bought land :D 08:24:53 <dwarf> : 08:24:56 <dwarf> :d 08:24:58 <dwarf> :d 08:25:00 <dwarf> :D 08:25:04 <dwarf> caps lock 08:25:22 <dwarf> and can you build new secondary industries? 08:25:27 <Meechtastic> well i think there is give and take with the plan 08:25:46 <Meechtastic> as long as its in the general area , right? 08:27:26 <Meechtastic> i think theres enough secondaries on the map 08:27:47 <Hazzard> I think they are normally funded 08:29:58 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 08:39:46 <Hazzard> !ping 08:39:46 <PublicServer> Hazzard: pong 08:42:53 <Meechtastic> !pong 08:43:00 <Meechtastic> =[ 08:48:04 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:48:04 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 08:48:04 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 08:48:53 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 08:48:53 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 08:55:35 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has joined spectators 09:04:18 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 09:04:30 <Absolutis> !dl win32 09:04:30 <PublicServer> Absolutis: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24119/openttd-trunk-r24119-windows-win32.zip 09:04:33 <Absolutis> !players 09:04:35 <PublicServer> Absolutis: Client 165 is Hazzard, a spectator 09:10:11 *** dwarf has quit IRC 09:15:09 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (general timeout) 09:15:09 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (connection lost) 09:16:24 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 10:10:10 *** Bassals has joined #openttdcoop 10:28:02 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 10:37:30 <Tray> !password 10:37:30 <PublicServer> Tray: fusses 10:37:52 <Tray> !dl win32 10:37:52 <PublicServer> Tray: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24119/openttd-trunk-r24119-windows-win32.zip 10:40:40 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:40:40 <PublicServer> *** bassals joined the game 10:41:53 <V453000> !password 10:41:55 <PublicServer> V453000: fusses 10:41:58 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:41:58 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:41:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 10:42:00 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 10:42:24 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 10:49:38 <Ammler> does someone know a public dns service, which I can use like dyndns.org but without monthly activation? 10:50:19 <CornishPasty> Ammler: http://freedns.afraid.org 10:50:21 <Webster> Title: FreeDNS - Free DNS - Dynamic DNS - Static DNS subdomain and domain hosting (at freedns.afraid.org) 10:50:24 <Maraxus> !password 10:50:24 <PublicServer> Maraxus: brewed 10:50:36 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 10:50:40 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 10:54:09 <Meechtastic> !password 10:54:09 <PublicServer> Meechtastic: brewed 10:54:27 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech joined the game 10:54:48 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 10:56:30 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 10:57:33 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> ingame gamenr != irc gamenr? 10:58:00 <V453000> !gamenr 233 10:58:00 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has set gamenr to 233 (next !restart) 11:04:34 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 11:09:05 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 11:12:33 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 11:12:53 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 11:12:57 <Bassals> did you find any new features in this nightly? 11:13:01 <PublicServer> <Tray> I would like to see some nutty s-bahn. 11:13:23 <PublicServer> <Tray> but I ain't here for the next week anyway ): 11:14:57 <Absolutis> !password 11:14:57 <PublicServer> Absolutis: depots 11:15:15 <Absolutis> hmh, 233? 11:15:24 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 11:15:50 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 11:16:16 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis joined the game 11:16:21 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yet another NUTS game? 11:16:28 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :| 11:16:34 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> not saying i dislike it 11:16:35 <Hazzard> :D 11:16:50 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> but i prefer some variety in trainsets 11:17:49 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh, superstrong trains? 11:18:26 <Hazzard> Superstrong? 11:18:32 <Tray> Superstrong. 11:20:00 <Hazzard> Like, how superstrong? 11:20:08 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> supa dupa strong 11:20:18 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> the strongest one is stronger than the get heavy 11:20:30 <Hazzard> Like how supa dupa strong 11:20:36 <PublicServer> <bassals> it's 1 tile long 11:20:42 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> 25k while the GH is 20k 11:20:44 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah 11:21:23 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> so when equal lenght 25k and 40k respectively 11:21:51 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 11:22:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> does NE-SW really need 3 planes? :o 11:23:09 <Hazzard> I want another bonus train with stupidly high HP and stupidly low Speed 11:24:06 <Tray> I like superstrong. 1 engine upto TL 10 with acceptable acceleration and CL 2 (: 11:26:00 <Hazzard> Yes. 11:26:00 <Hazzard> That would be awesome 11:28:45 <Hazzard> !ping 11:28:45 <PublicServer> Hazzard: pong 11:29:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: no plan? :o 11:29:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> im ok with yours 11:30:21 <Hazzard> !players 11:30:21 <PublicServer> Hazzard: Client 199 (Orange) is bassals, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.) 11:30:21 <PublicServer> Hazzard: Client 201 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.) 11:30:21 <PublicServer> Hazzard: Client 217 (Orange) is Absolutis, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.) 11:30:21 <PublicServer> Hazzard: Client 219 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.) 11:30:21 <PublicServer> Hazzard: Client 210 is Big Meech, a spectator 11:32:06 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 11:32:24 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> doesn't speed demon + express wagon look kind of... odd? 11:34:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i need a plan to challenge mine :o 11:34:15 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i'm making one. 11:34:16 <hylje> maglev locomotive and brake wagon 11:34:19 <hylje> do it 11:34:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D 11:34:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> +1 11:34:49 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> too bad there's no brake wagons in NUTS... 11:34:53 <hylje> it makes sense because magnets 11:35:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> how do magnets work? 11:35:24 <hylje> very quickly 11:35:32 <hylje> that's why maglev is fast 11:35:34 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :P 11:35:40 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> true 11:35:48 <Hazzard> Why would maglev trains have engines? 11:35:54 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> maglev is fast because there is no friction 11:35:57 <Hazzard> Don't the tracks propel the train? 11:37:21 <planetmaker> that depends on how you build it 11:37:27 <CornishPasty> Don't maglev trains have magnets in them that disturb the magnetic force of the track, causing it to move in a direction? 11:37:52 <planetmaker> oh, "disturb the magnetic force" :D 11:38:06 <CornishPasty> :> 11:38:14 <planetmaker> sorry, but I had a good laugh 11:38:21 <CornishPasty> I know, partially intentional ;P 11:38:48 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 11:38:55 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> you know what would be cool? 11:39:02 <planetmaker> yeah... and... makes it sound 100% wrong :-P 11:39:06 <Hazzard> This calls for some deep 11:39:07 <Hazzard> wikipedia research 11:39:08 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that similar loop to previous game 11:39:14 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> with different speed trains 11:39:29 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> synced to use the same time traveling 11:40:19 <CornishPasty> planetmaker: technicalities... 11:40:56 <planetmaker> realities? 11:41:03 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hehe 11:48:22 <Hazzard> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vactrain 11:48:23 <Webster> Title: Vactrain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 11:48:26 <Hazzard> I want that in OpenTTD 11:48:56 <V453000> it is there already 11:48:56 <V453000> useless newgrf if you ask me 11:49:17 <Absolutis> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=53743 11:49:41 <Absolutis> is that vactrainy enough, Hazzard? 11:50:28 <XeryusTC> would be fun to have mach 5 trains in OTTD :P 11:50:31 <Hazzard> No. 11:50:42 <Hazzard> Bridges still screw it up 11:50:53 <XeryusTC> use tunnels 11:52:10 <Hazzard> How would you cross a lake? 11:52:31 <XeryusTC> landbridge 11:53:33 <Hazzard> But the poor lake 11:53:41 <hylje> trains that arrive before they leave 11:53:48 <XeryusTC> /care 11:53:55 <XeryusTC> you should look at our old games 11:53:59 <XeryusTC> tunnels were default 11:54:06 <XeryusTC> just like landbridges 11:54:08 <XeryusTC> and high tf 11:54:10 <hylje> tunnels are unwieldy as fuck 11:54:23 <hylje> magic bridges were a godsend 11:54:23 <XeryusTC> trains almost never had to climb hills 11:54:32 <Hazzard> tf? 11:54:34 <Hazzard> oh 11:54:36 <XeryusTC> terraform 11:54:36 <hylje> and when they had, they climbed one level at a time 11:54:36 <Hazzard> Terraforming 11:54:56 <XeryusTC> before magic bridges tunnels were more flexible 11:54:58 <Hazzard> Did realistic acceleration exist? 11:55:03 <XeryusTC> yes 11:55:09 <XeryusTC> but it was different back then 11:55:28 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 11:57:25 <PublicServer> <bassals> Absolutis: I guess your plan includes separated sbahns for each city? 11:57:26 <Hazzard> Vactrains would make a good successor to Maglev 11:57:34 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yes 11:57:41 <XeryusTC> they are maglev 11:57:50 <XeryusTC> but without the air resistance that you would get outside the tube 11:57:56 <Hazzard> I know 11:58:01 <XeryusTC> or the sonic boom 11:58:06 <Hazzard> I mean in OpenTTD 11:58:28 <PublicServer> <bassals> any rules for them, like are buses allowed or mandatory trains? 11:58:46 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 11:58:52 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> possibly trams 11:59:18 <PublicServer> <bassals> I cannot see any trams 11:59:26 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 11:59:27 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 12:00:56 <XeryusTC> hmm 12:01:05 <XeryusTC> i just loaded a game from before i made those massive entries 12:01:08 <XeryusTC> good fun :P 12:01:42 <XeryusTC> and before we fully balanced all bbhs :P 12:02:21 <Hazzard> What massive entries? 12:03:29 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has left the game (leaving) 12:03:40 <XeryusTC> rofl 12:04:13 <Absolutis> what? 12:04:43 <XeryusTC> this game has the following signs next to the plan: ¨some rules:¨, ¨XeryusTC is a pro¨, ¨Don´t trust Ihmemies, he´s a sign spammer!¨ and ¨Ichi´s God of sucker. Worship him! :P¨ 12:04:54 <XeryusTC> and it has some proper art 12:04:56 <Absolutis> what game? 12:04:59 <XeryusTC> someone made a peace symbol 12:05:25 <Hazzard> Sounds like something firestar would enjoy 12:05:51 <XeryusTC> it was in a game from more than 5 years ago 12:06:06 <Absolutis> 2007? 12:08:05 <Absolutis> heh 12:08:12 <Absolutis> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2008/01/30/the-all-new-public-server/ 12:08:25 <Absolutis> even i got a computer better than that 12:09:57 <XeryusTC> we still run on that server 12:10:03 <XeryusTC> dont know if it is still the same hardware though 12:11:17 <hylje> it doesn't matter too much because the lowest common denominator of the player clients defines the performance 12:11:20 <XeryusTC> Absolutis: pax? 12:11:24 <Absolutis> pax 12:11:59 <Absolutis> ... 12:12:07 <Hazzard> hylje: What does that mean? 12:12:15 <Absolutis> it's been 2 years since V wrote the first ABR 12:12:25 <hylje> Hazzard: the worst computer in the game slows down the game (or drops almost instantly) 12:12:35 <XeryusTC> hylje: nowadays the slowest computer drops 12:12:35 <Hazzard> drops? 12:12:49 <hylje> can't stay connected 12:13:00 <XeryusTC> if one person is too slow to handle the game he lags because the game doesnt get the time to render in between ticks 12:13:06 <Hazzard> Wouldn't that just kick everyone one by one? 12:13:06 <XeryusTC> if it gets too bad he lags behind and drops 12:13:21 <hylje> Hazzard: yes as the game becomes more complex 12:13:54 <XeryusTC> some people have a better pc than the server though 12:14:03 <Hazzard> Doesn't "the slowest computer drops" mean that anyone that doesn't keep up with the server drops 12:14:29 <XeryusTC> yes 12:14:32 <XeryusTC> if they are too slow 12:14:34 <hylje> yep, so we can't increase game complexity to top out the server's performance 12:14:39 <XeryusTC> otherwise they´ll experience lag 12:14:40 <hylje> because it becomes unplayable 12:14:53 <Hazzard> Like me :( 12:15:30 <XeryusTC> back in ye olde brianetta days we couldnt run more than 500 trains 12:15:37 <XeryusTC> or the server would puke and die 12:15:57 <XeryusTC> brian´s server suffered quite a lot because of us :P 12:16:59 <Hazzard> I'm going to vote on whichever plan uses the fewest trains 12:17:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hard to tell 12:17:58 <Hazzard> > TL = < Trains 12:18:19 <Hazzard> Also, maybe Pax usese less trains? 12:18:23 <Absolutis> more 12:18:26 <Absolutis> definitely more 12:18:26 <XeryusTC> also depends on capacity 12:18:36 <XeryusTC> pax uses a lot 12:18:44 <Hazzard> :/ 12:18:45 <XeryusTC> sbahn gets an insane amount of trains 12:18:48 <XeryusTC> and order complexity 12:20:40 <Hazzard> Is it easy to make newGRF stations? 12:22:08 <XeryusTC> yes 12:22:18 <XeryusTC> although if you want more complex stuff it becomes quite hard 12:22:30 <Hazzard> Like the cargo-dependant stuff? 12:22:48 <XeryusTC> yes 12:23:01 <XeryusTC> although i never got to fool around with that 12:24:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk I havent really came to anything truly hard in NML 12:24:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure if you dont know how to do something it takes a while to find the functions in the documentation, but once you find it it is quite easy 12:24:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> at least vehicles were so far 12:24:46 <XeryusTC> must be easier in NML than in NFO 12:24:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> for sure 12:24:57 <XeryusTC> the modern train station set that i coded is buggy as hell :P 12:24:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> NML at least makes sense when you read it 12:25:07 <Hazzard> What is NML? 12:25:29 <V453000> the language 12:25:33 <V453000> newgrf meta language 12:26:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway there goes another plan 12:27:31 <Hazzard> XeryusTC: Link? 12:27:39 <XeryusTC> to? 12:27:54 <Hazzard> the modern train station set that i coded 12:28:53 <XeryusTC> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=23472 12:28:54 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Red*Stars modern train station set [beta released] (at www.tt-forums.net) 12:29:11 <Hazzard> Red Star? 12:29:24 <V453000> the look of the stations is cute, but I hate how the sizes of them are unflexible 12:29:59 <Hazzard> Sexy stations 12:30:12 <XeryusTC> they are a bit unwieldy, yes :P 12:30:24 <V453000> remembering each layout ... not really 12:30:31 <sietse> !dl 12:30:31 <PublicServer> sietse: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 12:30:31 <PublicServer> sietse: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r24119 12:30:35 <V453000> I rather like to make my own stations from pieces 12:30:39 <sietse> !dl lin 12:30:39 <PublicServer> sietse: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24119/openttd-trunk-r24119-linux-generic-i686.tar.xz 12:30:42 <V453000> like ISR, japanese stations etc 12:31:01 <XeryusTC> they are more like the US stations than newstations ;) 12:31:32 <V453000> well w/e :) not too usable 12:31:35 <Hazzard> So what was buggy about the station? 12:32:25 <Hazzard> wait, brb 12:32:36 <XeryusTC> they dont always build correctly 12:32:41 <XeryusTC> and graphics are sometimes glitchy 12:33:14 <V453000> and you have to try about 10000 times until you figure out how to build them :D 12:33:21 <V453000> or have the readme open :d 12:33:41 <XeryusTC> i know them all by heart 12:34:04 <XeryusTC> berlin hbf is 4x6 or larger in the 6 direction :P 12:34:29 <XeryusTC> racoon city is 8 tiles long and at least 2 wide 12:34:35 <XeryusTC> and then plazas on both sides :P 12:36:02 <XeryusTC> but you can take hints from the number selectors for the size 12:36:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk I havent tried too much, just once. As I said, I like to make my own stations from pieces 12:36:50 <sietse> !password 12:36:50 <PublicServer> sietse: deluxe 12:36:55 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (connection lost) 12:37:25 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 12:37:44 <PublicServer> <Sietse> heya 12:37:45 <PublicServer> *** Sietse joined the game 12:38:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 12:39:51 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 12:40:26 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 12:41:31 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 12:41:35 <Hazzard> Ehrm 12:41:37 <Hazzard> Back 12:42:03 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 12:42:03 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 12:43:16 <Hazzard> So what was buggy about the stations? 12:43:16 <Hazzard> !password 12:43:16 <PublicServer> Hazzard: deluxe 12:43:59 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 12:44:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> why are we using the ugliest airplane ever? :D 12:44:52 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Rainbowwww 12:45:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok a bit better in blue 12:48:20 <Hazzard> XeryusTC: What was buggy about the station? 12:48:44 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 12:48:54 <XeryusTC> just play with the set a while 12:49:01 <XeryusTC> you´ll start to notice glitches etc 12:49:14 <XeryusTC> stuff that doesnt work exactly like advertised in the readme 12:49:17 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (leaving) 12:51:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> why the note about SL depots XeryusTC? there shouldnt be any accessible depots at all 12:51:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> Any of your service centers is exception and shouldnt even be mentioned imo 12:52:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> and it isnt just the SL, but any other line than the main ML 12:53:37 <Hazzard> What are the service centers for? 12:54:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> only for selling trains 12:54:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> or eventually sending a bunch of trains into the depot temporarily when you rebuild something major, but that isnt necessary 12:55:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> and in most games things are just upgraded, not destroyed and rebuilt 12:57:43 <XeryusTC> and service centers are for upgrading, if needed 12:58:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> we never ever do that 12:58:58 <XeryusTC> i know 12:59:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> and upgrading with service centers is rather bad 12:59:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> the depots behind reversers or terminus stations is much better 12:59:21 <XeryusTC> but if we start a game in 1920 and have quick voting we do :P 12:59:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but that is ... kind of rare :P 12:59:48 <XeryusTC> service centers allow for everything upgrading at once and not mixing speeds for 10 years on the network :P 13:00:16 <XeryusTC> it was quite common in ye olde games :P 13:00:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on situation but mostly different speeds by a little bit are much smaller problem than having a massive jam and many lost trains 13:01:06 <XeryusTC> if trains are lost because of a service center than there is something really wrong with the network 13:01:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> not really 13:01:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> trains willingly go through a roro station just because there is a depot somewhere behind it 13:01:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> to autoreplace 13:02:02 <XeryusTC> lost = not being able to find a route to the destination, going through a station not in the order list is not lost 13:02:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> they go through station in the order list 13:02:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> if there is depot behind it 13:02:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> instead of visiting the station first 13:02:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> and then they have to go to the station again of course 13:02:52 <XeryusTC> that is just game mechanics 13:02:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 13:03:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it makes mess 13:03:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> while terminus stations make it safe 13:03:33 <XeryusTC> trains with different speeds on the network also make a mess 13:03:37 <XeryusTC> i dont see your problem 13:03:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway, the best way to autoreplace is terminus refit :P you 1. make sure trains dont get lost, and 2. you make sure that every train replaces after it does 1 round of trip 13:04:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> not that much, and definitely better a few slowdowns than lost trains 13:04:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you have 30 trains suddenly turning around at some station just because they like a depot on the ML behind it, it will make massive problems 13:05:08 <XeryusTC> not really 13:05:13 <XeryusTC> trains just need a detour to get back 13:05:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 13:05:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> and they are likely to jam at that detour because the station also has some trains loading 13:06:51 <XeryusTC> :/ 13:06:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> and well, not even a service center makes all trains replace instantly, it doesnt take much shorter than when you want every train to make a full trip 13:07:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> so you still mix train speeds for quite a while 13:07:13 <XeryusTC> then terminii are also jamming because they have a lower capacity than roro 13:07:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> not at all 13:07:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> the lost trains wont go to try to turn around in the terminus at all 13:07:32 <PublicServer> *** bassals has joined spectators 13:07:37 <XeryusTC> it is about as relevant as trains jamming because trains wait in a station 13:07:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> and that terminus has low capacity is a myth 13:07:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> no it isnt when the lost trains wont go there 13:08:37 <Mark> hello 13:08:42 <V453000> hi 13:09:04 <Mark> !password 13:09:04 <PublicServer> Mark: manged 13:09:12 <XeryusTC> hey Mark 13:09:14 <Mark> !dl win32 13:09:14 <PublicServer> Mark: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24119/openttd-trunk-r24119-windows-win32.zip 13:09:16 <Mark> hiya :) 13:09:29 <XeryusTC> those trains are still not lost btw, it is a detour 13:09:31 <Mark> how'd last game end? 13:09:44 <XeryusTC> with a sizzle 13:09:59 <Mark> hehe 13:10:29 <V453000> but how would they get to a detour when they have terminus stations which prevent them from getting lost 13:10:57 <Absolutis> !password 13:10:57 <PublicServer> Absolutis: manged 13:10:57 <XeryusTC> terminus stations preventing them getting lost? 13:11:10 <V453000> with autoreplacing, sure 13:11:16 *** Bassals has quit IRC 13:11:19 <XeryusTC> i dont know what world you live in, but in mine terminus stations make trains lost while roros dont 13:11:28 <XeryusTC> as terminus dont allow the PF to search for a path through them 13:11:33 <V453000> yes exactly 13:11:37 <V453000> so if you put a depot behind it 13:11:39 <V453000> they wont screw up 13:11:48 <V453000> -> safe autoreplacing 13:11:57 <XeryusTC> that makes trains lost if they happen to get on the way to a terminus that they dont belong on 13:11:58 <planetmaker> or put the station explicitly into orders... 13:12:09 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis joined the game 13:12:17 <V453000> why would they ever get to a terminus they dont belong to 13:12:30 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 13:12:31 <V453000> when they cant screw up while autoreplacing 13:12:32 <XeryusTC> because they got on the wrong track somehow? 13:12:36 <V453000> somehow? 13:12:48 <XeryusTC> that was a rhetorical question :P 13:12:56 <V453000> no, they just dont. :) 13:12:56 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 13:13:15 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> what about starting voting 13:13:17 <V453000> you can even for example make all drop stations roro while primary pickups are terminus 13:13:33 <V453000> which is probably the best way to do it, put autoreplace depots behind primary stations 13:14:02 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has joined spectators 13:14:08 <XeryusTC> i prefer to put service centers just on the ML 13:14:19 <XeryusTC> if they happen to come across the SC then they´ll visit it 13:14:36 <XeryusTC> only if you give them the order they´ll move out of the way 13:14:39 <V453000> yes, but they also will visit it when they dont have any SC before the drop 13:14:59 <V453000> and when you hit the autoreplace button, some sure will 13:15:40 <XeryusTC> only if it is near their route 13:15:50 <V453000> unfortunately not 13:15:56 <V453000> that thing works real weird 13:16:13 <XeryusTC> only if you order them to visit a depot they will go out of their way 13:16:25 <XeryusTC> openttd only looks x tiles away for a depot to visit 13:16:30 <V453000> anyway, I dont say using a SC for autoreplacing is completely horrible, but the hidden depot method is just 100% safe 13:17:08 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 13:17:10 <Mazur> V453000 and hidden depots sitrting in the tree,... 13:17:16 <planetmaker> what's the "hidden depot method"? 13:17:35 <XeryusTC> depots behind a terminus or turn around track 13:17:44 *** roboboy has quit IRC 13:17:50 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 13:18:21 <V453000> you put depots only behind terminus stations or reversers. Typically only behind primary pickups which are all made terminus 13:18:33 <XeryusTC> but anyway, to get back to the original point, i added the signs to the message board because lately people have been adding visible depots on sidelines without care 13:18:56 <V453000> alright ... I would just extend that point to say just "no accessible depots" 13:19:08 <V453000> you can still build a SC as an exception from that "rule" 13:19:24 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> V453000: Does your train compactor still work? 13:19:30 <V453000> Hazzard: which one? 13:19:31 <XeryusTC> agreed :) 13:19:34 <planetmaker> simply "no accessible depots except SC" 13:19:41 <Hazzard> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/e/e0/Psg203_sparta.png 13:19:44 <Hazzard> There is another? 13:20:02 <V453000> oh that 13:20:14 <V453000> sure it works, but it is not too efficient 13:20:25 <V453000> it makes a huge signal gap so normal waiting bays are faster 13:20:43 <V453000> and if you make the bays CL1 they can still be fit somewhere to not take up much space 13:21:16 <V453000> @stage Planning & Voting 13:21:16 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG232 (r24119) | STAGE: Planning & Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 13:21:37 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has joined company #1 13:24:21 <PublicServer> <Mark> XeryusTC: you should probably put your station's exits/entries the other way around 13:24:28 <PublicServer> <Mark> that way you wont have join before split 13:24:40 <XeryusTC> hmm 13:24:46 <XeryusTC> someone else actually made those signals xD 13:25:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> done :p 13:25:07 <PublicServer> <Mark> :) 13:25:10 <PublicServer> <Mark> cool 13:25:33 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has joined spectators 13:26:14 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I don't like any of these plans : 13:26:16 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> :/ 13:26:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> make a better one :P 13:26:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why not? 13:27:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> people hate downhills? :( 13:27:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 13:27:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we only want to reach the top 13:28:05 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe it is just that your plan is more like what i'd suggest and my plan is more like what Mark would suggest :P 13:28:23 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 13:28:27 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> How about we build aqueducts from mountain to mountain 13:28:38 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> abd transport cargo between the mountains :D 13:29:52 <Hazzard> Genious, right? 13:32:17 <Hazzard> yeah, im not too sure about it either 13:33:00 <XeryusTC> @wiki members 13:33:02 <Webster> XeryusTC: I didn't find anything for "members", but here's the result for "Community:Members": 13:33:03 <Webster> XeryusTC: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Community:Members 13:33:04 <Webster> XeryusTC: Note: * Admins have shell access to our servers, all others have rcon access 13:34:58 *** LoPo has joined #openttdcoop 13:35:05 <PublicServer> *** bassals has left the game (leaving) 13:35:05 <planetmaker> Ha, Mazur *is* around 13:35:20 <planetmaker> or not? 13:36:01 <Mazur> He is. 13:36:10 <LoPo> hi 13:36:17 <Mazur> He heard his name being dropped frmo a great height. 13:37:11 <Hazzard> CharcoalDioxide! 13:37:37 <LoPo> !password 13:37:37 <PublicServer> LoPo: neater 13:37:47 <PublicServer> *** LoPo joined the game 13:38:13 <XeryusTC> oh btw 13:38:28 <XeryusTC> i have a small announcement 13:38:36 <planetmaker> right... @nicks 13:38:44 <planetmaker> Folks, welcome all... 13:38:46 <planetmaker> @op Mazur 13:38:47 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mazur 13:38:54 <planetmaker> our newest member to #openttdcoop 13:38:57 <XeryusTC> Mazur is now an official member :D 13:39:08 <XeryusTC> but, to do this 13:39:11 <LoPo> wow nice and gratz Mazur 13:39:13 <Mazur> KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!! 13:39:18 <XeryusTC> we have to dismember V453000 13:39:20 <Mazur> s/ZOD/MAZUR/ 13:39:22 <V453000> @deop 13:39:22 *** Webster sets mode: -o V453000 13:39:33 <XeryusTC> he is still a member, he just has to sacrifice an arm :P 13:39:36 <LoPo> lol? 13:39:40 <LoPo> why 13:39:51 <Mazur> Because he hates me. 13:39:52 <XeryusTC> newton´s 3rd law 13:39:58 <LoPo> oky 13:40:04 <XeryusTC> anyway, welcome mazur 13:40:09 <Mazur> Or I hate him, egg/chicken. 13:40:12 <Mazur> Thank you. 13:41:12 <Hazzard> Party! 13:41:38 <Mark> BEER 13:41:47 <V453000> @op 13:41:47 *** Webster sets mode: +o V453000 13:41:50 <Hazzard> :D 13:44:36 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has joined company #1 13:44:42 <Webster> 1 new tweet(s): openttdcoop New post: New member: Mazur http://t.co/t8sBEYDq, 55 seconds ago via #openttdcoop Blog. (191884592683290626) 13:46:08 <Absolutis> grats maz 13:46:10 <Webster> Latest update from blog: New member: Mazur <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/04/16/new-member-mazur/> 13:46:36 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 13:46:50 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> maybe i should try a BBH after the voting is done... 13:47:02 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 13:48:37 <V453000> @stage Building 13:48:37 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG232 (r24119) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 13:48:38 <V453000> there we go 13:48:53 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :) 13:49:04 <V453000> XeryusTC: go do stuff :) 13:49:10 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> What the just happened 13:49:17 <Maraxus> !password 13:49:17 <PublicServer> Maraxus: tulips 13:49:25 <Absolutis> XeryusTC: High TF? 13:49:28 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> You guys didn't let me vote :( 13:49:35 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Now imma go cry 13:49:35 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 13:49:39 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :P 13:49:45 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 13:51:34 <Tray> !password 13:51:34 <PublicServer> Tray: tulips 13:51:52 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 13:52:47 <PublicServer> <Sietse> voting in half an hour? 13:53:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> enough votes 13:53:23 <PublicServer> <Mark> oh quickie 13:54:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> XeryusTC: wanna mark out some hubs? 13:54:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> I do build ze town drop 13:54:54 <PublicServer> <Mark> keep the rings like 30 tiles from the edge 13:55:00 <PublicServer> <Mark> makes expansion easier 13:55:02 <PublicServer> <Mark> they'll get massive 13:56:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> you think the ring size at NW is ok? 13:56:56 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> There goes that mountain 13:57:18 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I would wait for XeryusTC 13:57:49 <PublicServer> <Mark> X is slow :P 13:58:16 *** bassals has joined #openttdcoop 13:59:33 <PublicServer> *** bassals joined the game 13:59:40 <PublicServer> <bassals> eh? 13:59:46 <PublicServer> <bassals> building already? 14:00:14 <Absolutis> !gap 3 6 14:00:14 <PublicServer> Absolutis: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 6. 14:04:21 <XeryusTC> oh, plan done 14:04:29 <XeryusTC> i need to brush my hair and brush my teeth 14:04:42 <PublicServer> <Mark> you got too much hair 14:05:04 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Mark: are you bald? 14:05:20 <PublicServer> <Mark> no but i dont need to brush it :P 14:05:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> neither 14:05:38 <PublicServer> <Mark> these hubs are way easy 14:05:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> uhm who is messing with my station 14:08:04 *** Firestar has joined #openttdcoop 14:08:15 <Firestar> hi all 14:08:18 <Firestar> !password 14:08:18 <PublicServer> Firestar: patted 14:08:19 <PublicServer> <Mark> hello 14:08:23 <PublicServer> <bassals> hello 14:08:25 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 14:08:31 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hey 14:08:37 <Firestar> how are things going? 14:08:43 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi 14:08:45 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 14:08:51 <Hazzard> Mazur has been promoted :D 14:09:19 <Firestar> !password 14:09:19 <PublicServer> Firestar: patted 14:09:30 <PublicServer> *** Firestar joined the game 14:09:35 <Mazur> Demoted, you mean. 14:09:45 <PublicServer> <Mark> your life is over 14:10:09 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Mazur: whatever, same thing 14:10:20 <Mazur> Trued dat. 14:10:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> back 14:10:40 <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi XeryusTC 14:10:43 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm 14:10:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i might've misjudged the distances :P 14:11:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> didnt think that the rings would come this close to the edge :o 14:11:13 <PublicServer> <bassals> will be allowed to build SLH in the rings? 14:11:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ofcourse 14:11:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> rings are fine imo 14:11:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and on the LLxRR too 14:11:33 <PublicServer> <Mark> not too close anyway 14:11:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but rings need at least two SLHs, one for between the MSHs and one out 14:12:26 *** Rhamphoryncus has joined #openttdcoop 14:14:29 <PublicServer> <Mark> ima do a xeryus style station :P 14:14:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> \o/ 14:15:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> slh1 done :D 14:17:45 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 14:18:26 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> What the 14:18:28 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Is that 14:18:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> what? 14:18:40 <PublicServer> <Firestar> where? 14:18:46 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Nvm 14:19:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> who is digging at my site? 14:20:03 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> What is that thing 14:20:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which thing? 14:20:15 <PublicServer> <Firestar> where is your site? 14:20:18 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That mountain 14:20:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> where? 14:20:49 *** thecogwheel has joined #openttdcoop 14:20:51 <Rhamphoryncus> Who's on first? 14:21:05 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> first? 14:22:09 <PublicServer> <Mark> hows that for XeryusTC-style? :P 14:22:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> randomness :D 14:22:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm 14:22:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nice :) 14:23:04 <Absolutis> my first BBH IIRC 14:23:15 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you never build a bbh before? 14:23:21 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah 14:23:39 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i think i've been kind of "afraid" of it 14:23:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fortunately BBHs in this game are simple 14:23:47 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah 14:23:53 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> good game to build your first one 14:24:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> BBHs are though if you never build one before 14:24:10 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> meh 14:24:20 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i've built many SLHs and some MSHs 14:24:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> 3 way ones are 14:24:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, not in this game 14:24:38 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> in this game they are nothing more but a bit more complex ones 14:25:01 <Tray> I don't really see the difference bewteen a MSH and a BBH \: 14:25:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> there often is none 14:25:13 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Yes 14:25:19 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> MSHs connect the ML to a MS 14:25:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> only when stations dont need a connection to a certain direction 14:25:29 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> BBHs connect a ML to a ML 14:25:31 <PublicServer> <Mark> meaning they're not all-to-all as BBHs are 14:25:47 <Tray> So what? Mainstationslines are mainlines. 14:25:59 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> technically 14:26:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> not if they only have traffic from a station going in one direction 14:26:07 <PublicServer> <Mark> if you know what i mean 14:26:21 <PublicServer> <Mark> ie goods trains only going to the town drop, not the other way 14:26:37 <Tray> and empty goods train simply vanish? 14:26:51 <PublicServer> <Mark> well no 14:26:57 <PublicServer> <Mark> but they'd go the same direction aswell 14:27:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> look !here 14:28:02 <PublicServer> <Mark> traffic from the town drop only goes to the factory 14:28:12 <PublicServer> <Mark> so it doesnt need the connection the other way 14:28:19 <PublicServer> <Mark> in this case it differs from a BBH 14:28:30 <PublicServer> <Tray> Well I got ya point, there are edge cases but as a rule of thumb it's good to say that there is no difference 14:28:40 <PublicServer> <Mark> yep 14:28:46 <PublicServer> <Mark> except for longer prios, maybe 14:29:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> back in ye olde days we named MSHs BBHs too :P 14:29:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> yea 14:29:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i have been saying ye olde a lot today 14:29:28 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (general timeout) 14:29:28 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (connection lost) 14:29:36 <Hazzard> D: 14:29:38 <Hazzard> !password 14:29:38 <PublicServer> Hazzard: shoals 14:30:07 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 14:31:59 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: just noticed, but your drop is kind of close to the ring :o 14:32:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> shouldnt be a real problem though 14:32:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> enough space I think 14:32:50 <PublicServer> <LoPo> the "MSH" are not realy hubs so mush smaller 14:32:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> much* 14:35:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O 14:35:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> tf that is 14:35:18 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> where? 14:35:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> left corner is 30 from edge why should this be 60 14:35:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> especially when the station is closer 14:35:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> who is building the ML near my station? 14:35:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i am on one side 14:36:08 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the one in the west 14:36:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think we have to keep the ring 100% square 14:36:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i quickly measured out the ring btw 14:36:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no we dont 14:36:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you can move it if you want 14:36:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am rather surprised about teh south :D 14:37:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is 144 tiles from the other side 14:37:05 <PublicServer> <Firestar> oh that was me though 14:37:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> I know it was you 14:37:11 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which had been moved by Absolutis to build the hub 14:37:37 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah, a bit 14:37:47 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that was just a so good spot to build one 14:39:33 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 14:39:55 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 14:40:01 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 14:40:16 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> TF to the rescue 14:41:14 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 14:41:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> uhm 14:41:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> whoever is building the south ML, it is LL5RR 14:41:23 <PublicServer> <Tray> There are two BBH 045(: 14:41:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i know 14:41:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm renumbering them 14:42:26 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> there 14:42:32 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> BBH 05 done 14:42:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh numbering makes sense now :P 14:42:50 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> just BBH 06 and were done with BBHs 14:48:25 <PublicServer> <LoPo> wtf @ bbh 07 14:48:47 <PublicServer> <Tray> Absolutis, I think that your balancer at BBH05 is quite useless because that line is already balanced by BBH06 14:49:01 <PublicServer> <Tray> What's the problem about BBHß7? 14:49:16 <PublicServer> <LoPo> cls 14:49:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> weird connection 14:49:32 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That will go away 14:49:46 <PublicServer> <Mark> might take 200 years 14:49:54 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> It is at 18 14:50:04 <PublicServer> <Tray> industry die after 5 years? 14:52:04 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> The non prioritiezed lines are the ones that get choices, right? 14:52:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> yea 14:52:33 <PublicServer> <LoPo> Mazur: there is nothing wrong with the lines at BBH 06 14:52:43 <PublicServer> <LoPo> its a splitted line 14:52:57 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I think it is fine 14:53:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> should really be doubled 14:53:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> We'll see, anyway. 14:53:29 <PublicServer> <LoPo> why does it needs doubling? 14:53:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> there is a bridge infront of it 14:53:46 <PublicServer> <Tray> Induszrtry at BBH 07 gone, thanks for conmplaining. 14:53:56 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> :P 14:53:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> which splits the traffic 14:54:02 <PublicServer> <Mazur> If lots of trains from the Main Station need to exit via BBH05. 14:54:28 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hmm 14:54:30 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That is a good point 14:54:37 <PublicServer> <LoPo> it doesnt make sence to me 14:54:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> But what about sense? 14:54:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> sense i mean... :P 14:55:27 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Some trains from the livestock drops's goods will go that way 14:55:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, it is possible to create big slhs on this map 14:56:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you just need to make them 3 way :P 14:56:37 <PublicServer> <Mark> LoPo: there will also be trains heading for the other stations on that ml 14:56:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> not just town + iron trains 14:56:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> LoPo: Suppose a million ore mines happen to be in the north, then the empties will return vie BBH05, using both ring lines, one of your bridges is a half-balancer, only the other one is proper ML. And so both the bridges and the tunnles need to be double for the ring line. 14:56:51 <PublicServer> <Mark> its as much ML as the connection is 14:56:55 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I gtg now 14:56:57 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 14:56:59 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> See you guys later 14:57:01 <PublicServer> <Mark> cya 14:57:11 <PublicServer> <Firestar> cya 14:57:14 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu 14:57:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye,Haz. 14:57:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cya 14:57:32 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i doubt 9 platforms will be enough for pickup/drop at Ring 1 14:57:46 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> :3 14:57:48 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (leaving) 14:57:54 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 15:00:53 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> Hrisey is going to have to cope with a bit smaller pop 15:01:11 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> *le tree trick* 15:02:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> build a couple of SLHs :D 15:04:21 <PublicServer> <Mazur> How's the accel of our trains? 15:04:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ~10 tiles 15:04:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> no wonders but good 15:05:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> So 7 tile prio? 8? 15:05:38 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 15:06:00 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> stupid steelmill 15:06:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Mark: grain ready yet? 15:06:10 <PublicServer> <Mark> yep 15:06:12 <PublicServer> <Mark> bring it on 15:06:32 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 15:07:10 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> is flattening the lake excessive TF for the LS + ST pick? 15:07:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> ask again after looking at iron ore drop 15:07:38 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 15:07:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D 15:08:04 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> no argument there 15:08:38 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has joined spectators 15:08:49 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 15:09:12 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 15:09:46 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i'd like to do the pickup to go towards the drop 15:10:36 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> but that requires either some TF or sacrificing a few platforms 15:10:38 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> TF it is 15:11:12 *** pugi has quit IRC 15:12:16 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 15:12:34 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that entry is probably fine for the pickup 15:12:36 *** Zeknurn` has quit IRC 15:12:41 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> but the exit... 15:12:59 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i think i should separate the lines a little 15:13:17 *** Zeknurn has joined #openttdcoop 15:15:53 <PublicServer> <Mark> XeryusTC: wrong station 15:16:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol :D 15:16:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> fixed :) 15:16:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ty 15:16:31 <PublicServer> <Mark> ah fuck 15:16:38 <PublicServer> <Mark> refinery has to be close to edge of map 15:16:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh4 has quite some missing signals 15:16:55 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (general timeout) 15:16:55 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (connection lost) 15:17:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> pickup would be too far away :o 15:17:46 <PublicServer> <Mark> yes 15:17:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> we can override that limit with a newgrf 15:18:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> so you could place it anywhere you want 15:18:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> that'd be nice 15:19:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will add it when I finish this shit 15:20:15 <PublicServer> <Mark> stuff going from slh02 to the factory will take a pretty long detour 15:20:37 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah. 15:21:39 <PublicServer> <Mark> 2 full loops around that ring 15:21:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah well 15:21:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we'll just have to take that with the one way ness :P 15:22:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but it needs to change to right hand drive 15:23:45 <Mazur> @gap 4 15:23:45 <Webster> Mazur: For Trainlength of 4: <= 10 needs 2, 11 - 16 needs 3, 17 - 22 needs 4. 15:24:33 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i think signalling is done for the LS + ST area 15:24:36 <PublicServer> <Tray> Ring 1 Pickup looks bad ): 15:24:47 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> it'll do 15:25:01 <PublicServer> <Firestar> for now 15:25:16 <PublicServer> <Firestar> the exit needs to go the other way 15:25:30 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> no problem 15:25:37 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 15:25:40 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> *le U-turn 15:25:42 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> * 15:26:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok my station is complete 15:26:50 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> if someone wants to build the merger so that full trains don't have to take a detour at ring 1, go ahead 15:27:08 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that doesnt make any problems 15:27:59 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 15:28:09 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> looks like Husavik is in the way 15:28:11 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> good night residents 15:30:14 <Firestar> bit afk 15:30:44 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 15:31:07 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> next to skogar is probably distand enough for LS and ST factory 15:31:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> wow holy shit 15:31:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting goods pickup entrance Abso 15:31:38 <PublicServer> <Mark> :P 15:31:40 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> can be improved later 15:31:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure but .. :D 15:31:52 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> wth, why not improve it now 15:32:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wood hasnt been build yet :s 15:32:59 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 15:33:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont look at me 15:37:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm :D not putting train head on each end? :( 15:37:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no 15:37:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i want some variety 15:37:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> variety is the spice of life 15:38:04 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 15:38:14 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> the goods/steel trains look kind of... odd... 15:38:16 <PublicServer> <Tray> The prio at Ringone Pickupoverflow is broken, I think. Trains will ignore the red combo when they use pbs 15:38:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> omg Absolutis 15:38:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1. visible depot. 2. overflow depot without waiting bay 15:38:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> cant be any worse dude 15:39:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> and btw the PBS station entrance wont work with an overflow 15:39:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> perhaps with some pf trap but I wouldnt rely on that 15:40:25 <Firestar> back 15:40:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> the wood station could use some braking space btw 15:41:57 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> *le tree trick* 15:42:28 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> *le overusage of *le something** 15:42:38 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> how much braking space is enough? 1 TL? 15:42:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Again with the mind-reading! I was only _looking_ at the option, mr. Inspector! 15:42:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1 TL is 100% safe 15:42:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> 3 tiles for that station would probably be enough 15:43:32 <PublicServer> <Tray> Is it possible to change town rating via grf? Might be usefull to get rid of it. Though it's not a big deal 15:43:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> probably not, dont know 15:44:10 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 15:44:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> train yard done 15:44:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> except from the orders 15:44:28 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> ring 3 not done or... 15:44:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm off to dinner now 15:44:56 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh, the trains still look odd, indicator of destination/source? 15:45:20 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> or chain? 15:46:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark going to spam us with RVs? 15:46:12 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 15:46:18 <PublicServer> <Mark> no just a few 15:46:32 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> coal should be loco - 3x wagon - loco - 3x wagon 15:46:44 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> not loco- 6x wagon -loco 15:46:54 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> idk though 15:46:58 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 15:47:00 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> but that would seem logical to me 15:47:12 <PublicServer> *** Firestar has left the game (connection lost) 15:47:44 <PublicServer> <Tray> There is no Oil-wells-don't-decrease grf loaded and close to zero water: oil drop is pretty much useless, isn't it? 15:47:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> grain goes there 15:47:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> but yes 15:48:04 <Firestar> !password 15:48:04 <PublicServer> Firestar: mentor 15:48:09 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 15:48:15 <sietse> !dl lin 15:48:15 <PublicServer> sietse: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24119/openttd-trunk-r24119-linux-generic-i686.tar.xz 15:48:18 <PublicServer> *** Firestar joined the game 15:49:09 <PublicServer> <Tray> maybe add that oilwell grf when adding the oil refinery grf? Or ignore oil at all? 15:49:12 <sietse> !password 15:49:12 <PublicServer> sietse: proses 15:49:15 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (connection lost) 15:49:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk I guess XeryusTC is aware that there will be almost no oil 15:49:37 <PublicServer> <Sietse> hello 15:49:38 <PublicServer> *** Sietse joined the game 15:49:39 <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi 15:50:17 <PublicServer> <Sietse> first trains running already :) 15:50:34 <Absolutis> yup 15:50:46 <Absolutis> pretty accurately, 2 hours from building starting 15:50:53 <Absolutis> boy that went quick 15:51:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark? :( 15:52:02 <Meechtastic> O_o 15:52:23 <Meechtastic> we demand more oil 15:52:34 <Meechtastic> I will steal olive oyl 15:53:07 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> too bad the coop air only flies inside the place 15:53:14 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> region* 15:54:25 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hello, im back 15:54:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 15:54:29 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has joined company #1 15:54:31 <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi 15:55:09 <PublicServer> <LoPo> want help with the station Maraxus 15:55:09 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 15:55:17 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> sure 15:55:31 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> created dummy stations for wood and coal 15:56:05 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 15:56:16 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> coal and wood drops don't necessarily need to be separate 15:56:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> it shouldnt be either 15:56:40 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> if you don't want eyecandy 15:57:12 <PublicServer> *** bassals has left the game (leaving) 15:57:21 *** bassals has quit IRC 15:58:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> back 15:59:06 <PublicServer> <Firestar> wb 15:59:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you can mix eyecandy 16:00:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: seriously, wtf is that depot 16:01:07 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, I thought after the large discussion, that we might needs invisible depots behind terminus primeries. 16:01:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is accessible, it doesnt even work properly with block signals, and why not make a proper inaccessible injection depot 16:01:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 16:01:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> the behind is this 16:01:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> which is only for autoreplacing 16:01:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> -> not needed here 16:02:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> well you could build one for each station for killing trains 16:02:33 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 16:03:48 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 16:04:03 <dwarf> !stat 16:04:21 <dwarf> !help 16:04:21 <PublicServer> dwarf: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 16:04:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Anny Way, dinner time. 16:04:57 <dwarf> !playercount 16:04:57 <PublicServer> dwarf: Number of players: 9 (1 spectators) 16:05:07 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has joined spectators 16:05:23 <dwarf> !password 16:05:23 <PublicServer> dwarf: chintz 16:05:40 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 16:07:07 <PublicServer> <Sietse> Maraxus: I think you are building towards the wrong side :( 16:07:33 <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg wtf :P 16:07:51 <PublicServer> <Firestar> yeah youre building towards BBH 08 16:08:29 <PublicServer> <Firestar> but you can always make a U-Turn 16:08:33 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> anything wrong with detours? 16:10:47 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> check varmahlid iron ore/wood 16:10:53 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> cramped much? 16:13:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Absolutis: there are closer hubs to Varmahlíð 16:13:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> like SLH1 16:13:23 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah 16:13:33 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> but that would require a u-turn 16:13:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or turning the station 90 degrees 16:13:57 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> still 16:14:05 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> at the SLH end 16:14:11 <PublicServer> <Firestar> orders in the train yard done 16:14:41 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> nice, drop done 16:14:48 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> can we send trains to C/W drop 16:15:24 <PublicServer> <Firestar> i`ve made the orders already for the last trains too in the Train Yard 16:20:48 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:20:55 <V453000> laters 16:21:02 <PublicServer> <Firestar> cu 16:21:04 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu 16:21:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cya 16:25:33 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> whoops 16:27:19 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hm, nice 16:27:29 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> steel is "packets" of steel 16:27:51 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh, what is that livestock 16:28:05 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> prepackaged 16:28:07 <PublicServer> <Firestar> tanks of livestock 16:28:45 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh, is that supposed to be bacon chips floating in water or something? 16:28:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ask V 16:29:21 <PublicServer> <Firestar> train 43 went through station 16:29:59 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 16:30:10 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> was it forced through the other station? 16:30:12 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> the goods pickup 16:30:44 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> since that splitter could do that 16:31:59 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> time for food - bbl 16:32:07 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 16:32:25 <Meechtastic> why are you guys building without me? 16:32:35 <Meechtastic> !password 16:32:36 <PublicServer> Meechtastic: doored 16:32:43 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> because you're late? 16:32:47 <Meechtastic> =P 16:32:49 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> because we can. 16:32:54 <Meechtastic> =[ 16:32:54 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech joined the game 16:32:55 <PublicServer> <Firestar> cause we want 16:32:59 <Meechtastic> =[[ 16:33:09 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hi 16:33:32 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 16:33:56 <PublicServer> <Firestar> cya later 16:33:58 <PublicServer> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving) 16:34:05 *** Firestar has quit IRC 16:35:42 <PublicServer> <Sietse> Just found that the whole coal/wood drop is join before split 16:36:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol 16:36:13 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 16:36:17 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> anything is join before split on a loop 16:36:33 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> with enough trains everything can form a ring jam 16:36:48 <Chris_Booth> lol @ Absolutis 16:36:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> except that we have some start and end point on these loops 16:37:23 <V453000> OMG Absolutis 16:37:25 <V453000> fish of course 16:37:32 <Absolutis> !fish 16:37:32 <PublicServer> Absolutis: Today's fish is ... where is it? "NEMO?" 16:37:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and with that logic only point to point isnt jbs 16:37:58 <Absolutis> okay, i spoke before thinking. 16:38:02 <Absolutis> Point taken. 16:39:24 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh 16:39:54 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> V, you still there? 16:40:07 <Chris_Booth> no he has died 16:40:14 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :P 16:40:40 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> Hello Chris 16:40:52 <Chris_Booth> Hi Small Meech 16:42:05 <Chris_Booth> stupid autoupdate died! 16:42:40 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> maybe it does not like you =P 16:42:53 <Chris_Booth> nothing likes me, but it must learn to live with me :P 16:43:56 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> =P 16:44:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we need more SLHs 16:45:13 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah 16:46:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, someone building trains for me? :D 16:46:52 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> yep 16:46:58 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> jsut the depot 16:46:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nice :) 16:47:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh 16:47:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> could you build the trains too? 16:47:13 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> yep 16:47:20 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 16:47:24 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> fucking finally 16:47:29 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i can squeeze out some more SLHs then 16:47:55 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> does it matter wichh one i clone ? 16:47:59 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> for wood ? 16:48:46 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> oh, I see how its done in the dialog window =D 16:48:53 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hello Chris 16:49:12 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 16:49:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 16:53:36 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 16:53:56 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 16:54:12 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has left the game (leaving) 16:56:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just a question (don't kill me), but are we ever going to play without NUTS? 16:56:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 16:56:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but not in the coming 4 years 16:56:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> boring 16:56:53 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> I'm playing without nuts right now 16:57:07 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> g/f got ne neutered 16:57:17 <PublicServer> <LoPo> there :) i think wood goods pickup is done 16:57:18 *** Tray has quit IRC 16:57:21 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 16:57:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Big Meech: we know you are single 16:57:37 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> =P 16:57:43 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> who told? 16:57:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you 16:57:54 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> damn, knew i couldnt trust him 16:59:19 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 16:59:39 <V453000> !password 16:59:39 <PublicServer> V453000: lucked 16:59:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 16:59:50 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:00:01 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> xeryus is that you near slh 10? 17:00:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 17:00:11 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> I will add the coal trains 17:00:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ok 17:02:00 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> good work 17:05:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> time to build the next SLH :D 17:06:11 <PublicServer> <dwarf> I'll build one near Bolungravik 17:06:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cool :) 17:07:08 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> anyone need help building? 17:07:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> near SLH 11 :P 17:07:37 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> roro at the wood ? 17:07:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah 17:08:51 *** Abs0lutis has joined #openttdcoop 17:10:06 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> done, I mean, sorry about team chat 17:11:27 *** Absolutis is now known as Guest556 17:11:28 *** Abs0lutis is now known as Absolutis 17:11:28 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> heh, sorry abt that ;) 17:11:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no problem 17:11:45 *** nicfer has joined #openttdcoop 17:11:49 <nicfer> !password 17:11:49 <PublicServer> nicfer: refuge 17:11:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> time to kill some planes 17:11:52 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> were yo ugoing to try to get the coal wit hthat slh ? 17:12:04 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop joined the game 17:12:07 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hi nicfer 17:12:11 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> hi 17:15:45 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has joined company #1 17:16:09 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop has joined company #1 17:16:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol, somone shared the iron ore template's orders :D 17:16:29 *** Guest556 has quit IRC 17:16:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed now 17:17:42 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> might have been me, i do silly things sometimes 17:18:04 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> where can I work on? 17:18:26 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hi Mazur 17:19:56 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> can probably build anywhere, Nicfer 17:20:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dwarf: add a space in front of hub names next time 17:20:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> makes them sort to the top of the sign list 17:20:38 <PublicServer> <dwarf> ok 17:20:48 <PublicServer> * XeryusTC kicks absolutis in the balls 17:20:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> read the message board next time 17:21:05 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol 17:21:11 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop has left the game (leaving) 17:21:23 <nicfer> !password 17:21:23 <PublicServer> nicfer: beamed 17:21:36 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop joined the game 17:21:38 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> wb 17:21:41 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop has joined company #1 17:22:29 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I want to copy my hotkeys from my stable installation 17:22:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just copy the file over 17:23:06 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I copied it but when I restarted the game it just 'rollbacked' 17:23:17 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 17:23:31 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop has left the game (leaving) 17:23:47 <nicfer> !password 17:23:47 <PublicServer> nicfer: beamed 17:24:05 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop joined the game 17:24:05 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop has joined company #1 17:24:10 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> yay it works now 17:24:54 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has joined spectators 17:27:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, hi Beach. 17:27:56 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hai =P 17:28:46 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> ill let you connect that 17:28:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D 17:28:54 <PublicServer> <Mazur> THey did horrible things with a sward to me, did you hear? Dismembered me almost. 17:29:16 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> sward? 17:29:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> sword 17:29:29 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> should be more careful next time 17:29:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that was V 17:29:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> he was almost dismembered 17:29:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, it was something with members, anyway. 17:30:10 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol,o h membership =P 17:30:45 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> only clubs i never got kicked out of, were the ones i started xD 17:30:47 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, they're really scraping the bottom of hte barrel now. 17:31:01 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 17:31:05 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol 17:31:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no one has ever been kicked out of coop 17:31:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not even thergo 17:31:41 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I think I never got kicked out of anything, really, I'd have to think hard. 17:31:59 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 17:32:01 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> bbiab 17:33:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: we need more SLHs 17:33:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i have build all but 4 so far 17:34:30 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Point me to an easy one. 17:34:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> really? 17:35:21 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You don;t like SLH06? That's ok, neither do I, but it works. 17:35:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it's missing a connection 17:35:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !here 17:38:15 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm looking but not seeing anything missing. 17:38:29 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone just fixed it :P 17:38:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, really??? 17:38:43 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sneaky. 17:38:57 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I woner who that was.... 17:39:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dunno 17:39:39 <PublicServer> <Mazur> But thanks forthte heads up. 17:40:01 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Someone would surely not have fixed it if he'd not been alerted to it. 17:40:54 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 17:43:08 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> V is very quiet 17:43:19 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Plotting against us. 17:44:09 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> oh my 17:44:19 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> Congrats Maz, I can read ^_^ 17:44:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Thanks. 17:44:57 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 17:45:02 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> anyone need help ? 17:45:16 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I think. It may turn out commiseration or condolences would have been more appropriate. 17:45:22 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> LMAO 17:45:28 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> someone die? 17:45:28 <PublicServer> <Mazur> SLHs 17:45:28 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> xD 17:45:50 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> yes, but im not very good at building those yet 17:46:12 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Each ring needs 2 or 3 inward, one on the corner and one on eiter side of that, and the connecting lines each need one or two outwards. 17:46:42 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> ah yes, I know the jist of it, just suck at building them, i dont leave enough room to start 17:46:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, these SLHs arent that hard 17:46:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just a split and a join 17:47:15 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> check SLH 16 for smallness :) 17:47:19 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> usually do that with the tablesaw ;) 17:47:35 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> ah, yes 17:49:20 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> actually 17:49:36 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> can you give me a lane to the other wood ? 17:53:02 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> TF isn't allowed? 17:53:08 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 17:53:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we still dont have oil btw 17:53:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> TF is allowed 17:53:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> some people are just scared of it 17:53:28 <PublicServer> * Spike gets bulldozer out... 17:53:30 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> Im scared of everything 17:54:06 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Don;t worry, it'll fade. I speak from experience. 17:54:20 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> I am also afraid of americans ;) 17:54:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> so.... now that you're a member you're experienced Mazur? ;) 17:54:59 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nope. Happily and totally inexperienced, and quite resiged to remain so. 17:55:05 <PublicServer> <Spike> :D 17:55:08 <PublicServer> <Mazur> resigned 17:55:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> resigned? 17:55:28 <PublicServer> <Mazur> being complacent 17:55:32 <^Spike^> everybody has his/her... do we even have a her around here.. oh well his/her strong points :) 17:55:36 <PublicServer> <Mazur> happy, at peace with 17:56:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> well quite honestly you spend so much time here already that it is a shame to be resigned 17:57:04 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> is SLH17 good? 17:57:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, maybe I inadvertently learn things. 17:57:24 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop has left the game (general timeout) 17:57:24 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop has left the game (connection lost) 17:57:30 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or occasionally intentionally. 17:57:32 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> looks good nicfer 17:57:42 <nicfer> !password 17:57:42 <PublicServer> nicfer: sentry 17:57:55 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop joined the game 17:58:07 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has joined company #1 17:58:12 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop has joined company #1 17:58:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we can drop oil now 17:58:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> as long as you copy the train yard 17:58:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or add transfer orders yourself 17:59:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> needs goods for refinery :) 17:59:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Copy without sharing, of course, the trainyard should be unshared. 17:59:37 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You share only within a primary. 17:59:45 <PublicServer> <dwarf> wouldn't it be easier just to fund a refinery? 18:00:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i did that 18:00:08 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they just have a max distance 18:00:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> you know we could override that distance with a newgrf 18:00:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i know 18:00:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, glad to see you're awake 18:00:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 18:01:03 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> wasn't pbs unallowed here? 18:01:17 <PublicServer> <Mazur> He is awake? I thought he did this in his sleep? 18:01:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> not really 18:01:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is usually just frowned upon 18:01:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Discouraged, nicfer, but there are times they are the best, of not only, option. 18:04:41 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, and please sign your stations. 18:07:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Build a SC 18:09:37 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 18:12:39 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 18:15:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> Big Meech: the / signs are one / not // 18:16:05 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> jam at steel pickup 18:16:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> someone spammed steel trains I assume 18:16:30 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And no underflow. 18:19:08 <PublicServer> <Mazur> There are plenty of unsigned primaries. 18:19:15 *** jo2k has joined #openttdcoop 18:19:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's usually me 18:19:37 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Including HveragerðiNorth with the ungrouped trains? 18:20:11 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 18:20:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed 18:21:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fuck 18:21:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> grain drop produces grain :s 18:21:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> nice 18:21:34 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That whole setup is weird, are you testing something there? 18:22:02 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no, it's just that we cant build a refinery close enough 18:22:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, I see. 18:22:36 <PublicServer> <LoPo> steel & LS goods pickup is also jamming 18:22:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> the overflow doesnt work 18:22:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 18:22:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> told him 18:23:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> for now 18:24:39 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop has left the game (leaving) 18:24:45 *** nicfer has quit IRC 18:26:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so that's why we have so many trains already 18:26:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there's quite a lot of them hidden in depots 18:27:57 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 18:28:19 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> define quite a lot 18:28:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> all 10 or so that i just deleted :P 18:32:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> oooh I seee now 18:32:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> fucking steel mill 18:33:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> new one appeared ofc 18:33:08 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol 18:34:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Any logic builder wnt to check my !roundabout stopper? 18:34:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Faily sure it's good. 18:34:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> should work 18:35:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Good, those trains going in circles through the depot were giving me the jeebies. 18:35:34 <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg 18:35:37 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> \o/ 18:37:45 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> anyone need help? 18:37:50 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> mental or ottd is ok 18:37:53 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> tell me where xD 18:38:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> tell me whore? 18:38:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> or? 18:38:15 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> no, thats later tonight 18:38:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> aww 18:38:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will wait then 18:38:22 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> 10 dollar special 18:38:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf :( 18:38:35 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol 18:38:57 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lots of hookers in detroit 18:39:10 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 18:39:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 18:39:13 <mfb-> hi 18:39:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> ellow 18:39:18 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hello 18:39:24 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 18:39:39 <PublicServer> <Mazur> lo, mufby. 18:39:49 <PublicServer> <dwarf> I think we could save a lot of train running time and congestion at the stations if we made the inner corners of the loops two-way 18:39:59 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Btw, I finished Steel & LS Drop. 18:40:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> the running time doesnt hurt dwarf 18:40:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed wood to be split before join 18:40:30 <mfb-> !password 18:40:30 <PublicServer> mfb-: gropes 18:40:39 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 18:40:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> we have an aircraft newgrf loaded? 18:40:50 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol 18:40:56 <PublicServer> <dwarf> is it fixed payment or what? 18:41:06 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> have enough steel mills near faskruosfjorour heights? 18:41:17 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> at !steel 18:41:21 <mfb-> !gamenr 18:41:21 <PublicServer> mfb-: This is game number: 233 18:41:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> OH! NO! Not Detroit!! 18:41:33 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> yes, Detoilet 18:41:48 *** mfb- changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG233 (r24119) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 18:42:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That was another quote in hte category: "Name that film." 18:42:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh no, not rings again 18:42:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> again? 18:42:37 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> why are livestock, fish ? 18:42:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> One ring to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them. 18:42:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting arrangement 18:43:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> CW is shorter than CCW 18:43:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> (as global structure) 18:44:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added some goods and steel trains 18:44:33 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has left the game (leaving) 18:44:40 <LoPo> see ya 18:44:47 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye. 18:44:55 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu 18:44:55 *** LoPo has quit IRC 18:45:02 <PublicServer> * Mazur is off, as well. 18:45:04 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> laydurr 18:45:08 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye. 18:45:11 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 18:46:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cya both 18:46:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> cu 18:52:47 <PublicServer> <dwarf> gtg 18:52:53 <PublicServer> <dwarf> bye 18:52:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> see you 18:52:58 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu 18:53:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> cu 18:53:02 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> seeya 18:53:02 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 18:53:06 *** dwarf has quit IRC 18:53:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cya 18:54:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, CL3 18:54:26 <mfb-> why that? 18:54:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> tilt 18:54:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah ok 18:55:21 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> oh hai ;) 18:55:23 *** jo2k has quit IRC 18:55:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD 18:55:28 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> im buiding with you 18:55:36 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> again 18:55:38 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> =D 18:55:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, i kind of started building here 18:55:54 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> you did 18:55:56 *** sparky has joined #openttdcoop 18:56:02 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> because i saw that nothing had been connected to my slh yet 18:56:09 *** sparky has quit IRC 18:56:17 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> mmhmm 18:56:36 *** sparky has joined #openttdcoop 18:58:54 *** sparky has quit IRC 18:58:56 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hi 5 18:59:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf empty livestock tankers :D 18:59:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> train 109 18:59:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm? 18:59:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> whats wrong with it 19:00:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> looks odd 19:00:13 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> I like giant fishbowls on livestock trailers 19:00:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> those stations might need more platforms 19:00:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> making one feels just wrong 19:01:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe just because you are not used to it. no idea who built that 19:01:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dunno either 19:03:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> 97% steel transported :) 19:05:39 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> I want 100% steel transported or else 19:05:57 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> I will cut you 19:06:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> then I want your whoring for free 19:06:23 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> im sure there are some that will do it for free 19:06:47 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 19:09:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok Xeryus can rage now 19:09:47 <mfb-> ? 19:09:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> steel pickup has overflow 19:09:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 19:09:53 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 19:10:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i was wondering what you were doing there :P 19:10:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> no more excessive train count jams :) 19:10:43 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm nice 19:10:49 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we have a jam anyway 19:10:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh 19:10:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> 3rd needed? 19:11:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no 19:11:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you forgot to place signals 19:11:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> lol 19:11:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> :> 19:11:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> blame poor V 19:11:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nicfer placed too many signals in slh17 chooser :s 19:12:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> twoways :( 19:14:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> ring 3 -> ML merge jams 19:14:26 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> we need better mixing there 19:14:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> lol 19:14:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> no, we need a connection to the other ML at all 19:14:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh5/6? 19:15:12 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> theres a lack of traffic on that other rail though 19:15:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> all the traffic went to one ML 19:15:32 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> i understand that but 19:15:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> mixed, and both mixed lines joined the same ML 19:15:44 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> most of the coal wood drop is funneling into the left lane 19:15:49 *** Firestar has joined #openttdcoop 19:15:53 <Firestar> !password 19:15:53 <PublicServer> Firestar: avider 19:16:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> I think that just had a worse probability to join the ML 19:16:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 19:16:28 <PublicServer> *** Firestar joined the game 19:16:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> and if not, that is an issue at the station 19:16:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> or even the ML before it 19:16:45 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> do you see the traffic at the drop? 19:16:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> +english 19:18:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 19:19:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> coal trains from SLH19 do not reach full speed before they leave the ML again 19:19:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:19:20 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 19:19:29 <PublicServer> <Firestar> why is at grain oil goods pickup GRAIN waiting? 19:19:44 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> wroing orders? 19:19:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> because there is a farm there 19:20:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> someone had to make a loading grain train there 19:20:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> we could even reconstruct the station, just one group of orders to be changed 19:20:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> drop has the same problem currently 19:20:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm just waiting for the farm to die 19:20:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 19:20:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> omg 19:21:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> it wont die 19:21:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is serviced 19:21:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> will have to apply magix 19:21:27 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol 19:21:29 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there should be no trains picking up 19:21:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure but the station is still accepting it 19:21:46 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> i can haz uze magick bulldoza? 19:21:48 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> still serviced 19:21:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> since one train apparently tried to 19:22:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> only way to stop it is remove station or catchment 19:23:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> build a second SC btw :P 19:24:02 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> one that is a bit better placed 19:24:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> SC? 19:24:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> service centre 19:25:10 <PublicServer> <Firestar> could someone raise the max for trains? 19:25:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no 19:25:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is impossible 19:25:26 <XeryusTC> !rcon set max_trains 750 19:25:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> indeed 19:25:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> <- got 501 :p 19:26:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> TL4 looks weird on the map now :o 19:26:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> after having seen trains half the size 19:27:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> ;) 19:27:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we had TL2? 19:27:24 <PublicServer> <Firestar> yup 19:27:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 19:27:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why have we got TL4 now? 19:27:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> last PSG 19:27:56 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oh 19:28:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I am a dumb dumb 19:28:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> missing signals in bbh8 xD 19:29:08 <Mark> !password 19:29:08 <PublicServer> Mark: unhook 19:29:19 <PublicServer> <Mark> howdy 19:29:19 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 19:29:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hey mark 19:29:40 <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi 19:29:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 19:29:56 <PublicServer> <Mark> thats gone pretty quick 19:30:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> mfb: you placed Bolungarvík heights the wrong way around 19:30:45 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 19:30:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 19:31:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it was 90 degrees turned 19:31:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> what? 19:32:09 <PublicServer> * mfb is confused 19:33:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why are steel platoforms so long? 19:34:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> candy 19:34:45 *** Ryton has joined #openttdcoop 19:34:49 <Ryton> !password 19:34:49 <PublicServer> Ryton: hanger 19:35:23 <Ryton> !password 19:35:23 <PublicServer> Ryton: hanger 19:36:02 <Ryton> !password 19:36:02 <PublicServer> Ryton: hanger 19:36:12 <Ryton> better :p 19:36:14 <PublicServer> *** Ryton joined the game 19:37:18 <PublicServer> <Ryton> lol, deja vue networkplan :D 19:37:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> ;) 19:37:28 <PublicServer> <Ryton> but it was fun last time (with TTT maglev) :-) 19:37:59 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> last time i remember we played anything like this was 2006 or 2007 :o 19:38:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol? 19:38:37 <mfb-> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/2/23/PSG220.png 19:38:39 <PublicServer> <Firestar> ? 19:38:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> 220 or 211 19:38:54 <mfb-> 211 too 19:39:14 <mfb-> 211 was with 4 rings and spokes 19:39:37 <mfb-> TL2, and all rings CW or CCW iirc 19:39:59 <PublicServer> <Ryton> yes, thats the one i mean, ty mfb 19:40:09 <PublicServer> <Ryton> thats about 14-15 montsh ago? 19:40:13 <PublicServer> <Ryton> or less? 19:40:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> PSG199 was december 2010 19:42:41 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> any how peeps I am off now 19:42:43 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 19:44:05 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 19:45:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting transfer service at oil :D 19:46:13 <PublicServer> <Mark> oil ref cant be too far from the edge 19:46:23 <PublicServer> <Mark> i wouldve gone with a teleport for transfering 19:46:57 <PublicServer> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving) 19:47:05 <mfb-> I would have built the station closer to the map edge 19:47:05 *** Firestar has quit IRC 19:47:31 <PublicServer> <Mark> obviously didnt think of that 19:47:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> move it if you like 19:49:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:49:32 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 19:50:43 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol 19:50:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we've got a conga line :D 19:51:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> aka jam 19:51:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see MSH 4 19:52:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, evil double bridge ;) 19:52:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm now the MSH blocked too 19:52:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah, msh is the cause 19:52:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or the high traffic 19:53:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> the merger has quite bad gaps I thikn 19:53:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> yeah 19:53:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah i know 19:53:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> let's try that 19:54:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> named the MSHs btw 19:54:36 <PublicServer> <Mark> that ML is about full i'd say 19:54:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont think steel needs MSH naming 19:55:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> /care 19:55:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it leads to a main station :P 19:55:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure but it is just a split and station exit 19:57:43 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes, but it splits and enters the ML :P 19:57:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and for consistency 19:57:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> w/e 19:57:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> it'll get bigger 19:58:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> and become a major construction 19:58:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> so naming is probably good 19:58:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> it will but it will keep the idea 19:58:15 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but first ring 3 needs an extra lane 19:58:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> do we have to call rings by numbers and not by industries? 19:58:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> kinda hard to remember which is which 19:58:55 <PublicServer> <Mark> BBH08 merge is weird 19:59:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hard to remember, they're numbered CCW starting at the top :P 19:59:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 19:59:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> still better to name them by industries 19:59:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and BBHs are numbered the same :P 19:59:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> I don't know the industries by location :/ 20:00:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> NW/SW/NE/SE ok? :D 20:00:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D 20:01:28 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (general timeout) 20:01:28 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (connection lost) 20:01:30 <PublicServer> <Mark> started on 3rd at slh19 20:01:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> started at BBH07 spoke 20:04:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> not sure how to expand BBH07 20:04:24 <PublicServer> <Ryton> the W-most line going in steel drop, can that one 20:04:47 <PublicServer> <Ryton> has to pass the station at MSH03a atm 20:04:50 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 20:04:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> I know 20:04:56 <PublicServer> <Ryton> still needs a bypass somewhere 20:04:58 <PublicServer> <Ryton> oki 20:05:05 <PublicServer> <Ryton> just mentioning it :-) 20:05:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure I was just expanding the SLHs around so I could easily forget to return to it :) 20:06:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> lol, interesting presignals at SLH03 Xeryus :p 20:08:49 <PublicServer> <Mark> way too many slhs :P 20:08:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lies and slander! 20:09:15 <PublicServer> <Mark> im going to make slh12 a 2-way one i think 20:09:43 <PublicServer> <Mark> though running that forest directly to the drop and killing it would be way easier 20:09:43 <PublicServer> <Mark> and makes much more sense too 20:09:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but that is boring 20:09:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it would be easier to create a spur off slh 12 20:13:43 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 20:14:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> nearly a circle :D 20:14:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> can i send trains over the 3rd lane yet? 20:14:33 <PublicServer> <Mark> no 20:14:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> kind of helps in fixing bbh7 20:14:37 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :( 20:14:47 <PublicServer> <Mark> k now you can 20:14:53 <PublicServer> <Mark> made a temp join though 20:15:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i have to rethink my strategy anyway 20:15:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but sending trains on it anyway :P 20:16:57 <PublicServer> <Mark> your slhs survived for now 20:17:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> \o/ 20:22:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 20:24:02 <sietse> !password 20:24:02 <PublicServer> sietse: gulped 20:24:07 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (connection lost) 20:24:25 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> =D 20:24:32 <PublicServer> *** Sietse joined the game 20:24:34 <PublicServer> <Sietse> heya 20:24:40 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hiya 20:24:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 20:24:59 *** pugi has quit IRC 20:25:16 <PublicServer> <Ryton> @@gap 5 20:25:24 <Webster> PublicServer: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1. 20:25:52 <PublicServer> <Ryton> @@gap 5 2 20:25:54 <Webster> PublicServer: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1. 20:26:18 <Ryton> @gap 5 2 20:26:18 <Webster> Ryton: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4. 20:26:25 <Ryton> ty Webster :p 20:26:28 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> anyone need a noob's help>? 20:26:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> who added 3rd west of bbh7? 20:27:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> at rollercoaster ride? me 20:27:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bit far away from the hub imo :P 20:27:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> I expect a 3rd there soon 20:28:16 <PublicServer> <Mark> please dont touch signals when im working on something 20:28:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> annoys the crap out of me 20:30:09 <PublicServer> <Mark> 3rd at bbh08 done? 20:30:11 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 20:30:11 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 20:30:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> exit missing 20:30:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh 7 done 20:31:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> basically rebuild the entire thing :P 20:31:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm crap 20:32:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> "imagine a farm here" 20:32:24 <PublicServer> <Mark> epic sign 20:32:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> 3rd at BBH08 done 20:32:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> and it is ugly 20:33:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh6 is kind of stuck :s 20:33:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> with a WIP sign :o 20:33:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> bad waiting bays 20:33:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah 20:33:29 <Meechtastic> !pass 20:33:33 <Meechtastic> !password 20:33:33 <PublicServer> Meechtastic: gulped 20:33:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> great 20:33:45 <Meechtastic> !password 20:33:45 <PublicServer> Meechtastic: stench 20:33:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> still bad 20:34:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, feel free to work at it 20:34:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> and add a 3rd :D 20:34:07 <Meechtastic> lmao 20:34:11 <Meechtastic> !password 20:34:11 <PublicServer> Meechtastic: stench 20:34:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed :P 20:34:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Ryton is working there anyway 20:34:32 <PublicServer> <Ryton> trying :p 20:34:32 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech joined the game 20:34:40 <PublicServer> <Ryton> sorry, kind of slow :p 20:34:50 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 20:35:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> damnit Ryton 20:35:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you forgot to reconnect one ML lane 20:35:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now slh13 is jammed xD 20:36:04 <PublicServer> <Ryton> hmm? 20:36:21 <PublicServer> <Ryton> sorry :s didnt notice that 20:36:28 <PublicServer> <Ryton> what tile did I fail toconnect? :s 20:36:34 <PublicServer> <Ryton> and ty for fixing :p 20:36:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but do we really need a 3rd there? 20:37:00 <PublicServer> <Ryton> :was thining how to connect lines from east to this 3rd line 20:37:06 <PublicServer> <Ryton> probably not 20:37:22 <PublicServer> <Ryton> but it was stated a long long time ago :p 20:37:40 <PublicServer> <Ryton> that the ring to expand, was the 3rd? 20:37:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no, we were expanding ring 4 with a 3rd lane 20:38:04 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:38:16 <PublicServer> <Mark> looks like 3 will be next though 20:38:54 <PublicServer> <Mark> we might need to rethink prios at some of the BBHs 20:38:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> probably all the inner parts need expansion soon 20:40:51 <PublicServer> <Mark> gold tubulars ftw 20:40:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jup 20:41:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i made a couple of golden hubs :D 20:42:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Vogar Mines doesnt need more trains 20:42:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> messed a bout a bit with upgrading xD 20:43:00 <PublicServer> <Mark> :) 20:43:23 <PublicServer> <Mark> BAN PRIMARY TERMINI 20:43:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D 20:43:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 20:43:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see V, i'm not the only one who hates them ;) 20:44:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> \o/ 20:44:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf my stations got station buffers 20:44:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> station buffers? 20:45:00 <PublicServer> <Mark> you got buffer'd 20:45:29 <PublicServer> *** {TWerkhoven[l]} joined the game 20:45:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh 20:45:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> awesome! 20:45:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> wtf is that 20:45:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> eyecandy 20:45:54 <PublicServer> <Mark> wow thats pretty :D 20:46:00 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 20:46:00 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 20:46:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> in other words: without any function in the game 20:46:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> unless it extends the catchment area in some way 20:46:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Ryton: bbh7 cant do with a 3rd in from that direction btw :P 20:48:03 <PublicServer> <Mark> 07 is jammy 20:48:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> not merging to 3rd 20:48:25 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven[l] has left the game (leaving) 20:49:13 <Meechtastic> !password 20:49:13 <PublicServer> Meechtastic: raping 20:49:17 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 20:49:31 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 20:49:34 <Meechtastic> raping is a bad password 20:49:35 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech joined the game 20:50:33 <PublicServer> <Ryton> ty XeryusTC :p 20:50:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ? 20:50:46 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> anyone need helP? 20:50:53 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 20:50:55 <PublicServer> <Ryton> yeah I do :p 20:51:01 <PublicServer> <Ryton> see !WIP Ryton 20:51:03 <PublicServer> <Ryton> ;-) 20:51:05 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> ok 20:51:35 <PublicServer> <Ryton> trying to figure out how to connect lines from east to 3rd line 20:51:35 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> yeah nobody can help yo uthere =P 20:51:37 <PublicServer> <Mark> what are you trying to do? 20:52:24 <PublicServer> <Mark> try to keep bridges as short as possible 20:52:26 <PublicServer> <Ryton> maybe adding a line east of the hub is easier? 20:52:28 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> use tackle, its super effective 20:52:42 <PublicServer> <Ryton> ty, but was thining to mix later Mark :-) 20:52:57 <PublicServer> <Ryton> but then the city is annoyed :;p 20:52:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> there is an option 20:53:09 <PublicServer> <Ryton> ok ty 20:53:19 <PublicServer> <Ryton> superb 20:53:21 <PublicServer> <Mark> ugly though 20:53:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 20:53:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> do we have 3x3 grid towns? 20:53:40 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> doube tunnel 20:53:42 <PublicServer> <Mark> looks like it 20:53:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> changed the oil thing 20:54:00 <PublicServer> <Mark> hehe 20:54:02 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hopefully the drop and pickup station wont have the farm in their range anymore 20:54:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> lol 20:54:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> is that enough? :P 20:54:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> 0% transported now 20:54:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> good :D 20:55:17 <PublicServer> <Mark> Ryton: that hub's flawed to begin with, no choices for outermost inbound NE track 20:55:21 <XeryusTC> !rcon raw_industry_construction 1 20:55:21 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ERROR: command not found 20:55:29 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 1 20:55:35 <PublicServer> <Ryton> I konw, but how to make the best of it ? :-) 20:55:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, that has a prio 20:55:57 <PublicServer> <Mark> yea 20:55:59 <PublicServer> <Mark> still ugly 20:56:09 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> smoosh with bulldoza 20:56:10 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 2 20:56:11 <PublicServer> <Ryton> I can live with ugly 20:56:26 <PublicServer> <Ryton> but bulldozer or dynamite works too 20:56:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> I don't think this part is ugly 20:56:30 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> thats what my g/f kept telling me 20:56:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> the main traffic is E->N 20:57:03 <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah :p 20:57:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> well it should either have choices from one way or the other, not half/half 20:57:07 <PublicServer> <Ryton> I doubled the wrong area? :p 20:57:37 <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah should have choice full flow to one, or full flow to second one? 20:58:01 <PublicServer> <Mark> i'd say so 20:58:15 <PublicServer> <Mark> inbound spoke should have prio in this case i think 20:58:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> hardly any traffic stays on the ring 21:01:40 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> its not too late to use bulldozer 21:01:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> more oil :D 21:01:52 <PublicServer> <Ryton> Ok for me :D 21:01:52 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (processing map took too long) 21:01:52 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 21:01:57 <PublicServer> <Ryton> ask LoPo tough 21:02:20 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> just kidding 21:02:24 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 21:02:26 <PublicServer> <Ryton> I wasnt :p 21:02:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and another one xD 21:02:44 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol 21:03:00 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> thats what happens when you fund them =P 21:03:15 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 0 21:03:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well 21:03:24 <PublicServer> <Mark> tempted to dig out an ocean 21:03:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not possible anymore now 21:03:30 <PublicServer> <Mark> prospecting failed 10 times in a row 21:03:36 <PublicServer> <Mark> oh 21:03:38 <PublicServer> <Mark> :D 21:04:08 <PublicServer> <Mark> aww turn it back on 21:04:10 <PublicServer> <Mark> want some oil 21:05:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i dont want a LLxRR SL there :P 21:05:08 <mfb-> lol 21:05:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> ima dig out an ocean somewhere 21:06:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> most steel brothers died 21:06:56 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> super steelio brothers? 21:08:55 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 21:09:02 <dwarf> !playercount 21:09:02 <PublicServer> dwarf: Number of players: 9 (2 spectators) 21:09:09 <PublicServer> <Ryton> can/should the 3rd line in ring 3 be connected, or does that just shuft the problem from MSH3B to BBH07? 21:09:40 <dwarf> !password 21:09:40 <PublicServer> dwarf: egoism 21:09:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> I think the problem at MSH03b is just that the new connection adds a lot of bad waiting bays 21:09:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> and a new join without prio 21:10:07 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 21:10:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah, 3rd ready 21:10:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> just connect 21:10:13 <PublicServer> <Ryton> the 3rd line isnt connected yet 21:10:23 <PublicServer> <Ryton> but just 2 lines goinog out to BBH°7... 21:10:25 <PublicServer> <Ryton> lets try 21:10:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, SLH05 missing 21:10:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> and 16 and BBH05 21:11:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> feel free to connect the 3rd 21:11:18 <PublicServer> <Ryton> indeed 21:11:21 <PublicServer> <Ryton> me is off 21:11:23 <PublicServer> <Ryton> srry 21:11:27 <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (leaving) 21:11:59 <PublicServer> <Mark> what the fuck 21:12:10 *** Zeknurn has quit IRC 21:12:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> dont just delete stuff someone's working on 21:12:27 <PublicServer> <Mark> fuck sake 21:12:29 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 21:12:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol? 21:12:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ragequit? 21:12:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> which part? 21:12:46 <Mark> ye 21:12:49 <Mark> im off anyway 21:12:52 *** Zeknurn has joined #openttdcoop 21:12:55 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> glad that wasnt me xD 21:13:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf is happening here :D 21:13:32 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 21:13:50 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> brain disease is messing with our headzz 21:13:52 <Chris_Booth> calm down 21:17:40 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:19:26 *** Ryton has quit IRC 21:21:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> who is building at BBH05? 21:21:23 <PublicServer> <dwarf> me, but not going to connect now 21:21:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> 3rd is ready 21:21:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> from both sides 21:22:07 <PublicServer> <dwarf> I dont'have enough time to do it now 21:22:17 <PublicServer> <dwarf> at least not properly 21:22:35 <PublicServer> <dwarf> I could connect from BBH4 21:23:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> "connect from BBH04"? 21:26:13 <PublicServer> <dwarf> gtg, damnpacific time zone 21:26:26 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> only 230pm there =P 21:26:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> ~13:00? 21:26:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> move to a proper continent :P 21:26:37 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol 21:26:43 <PublicServer> <dwarf> someone should be here around GMT 02 so I can play 21:26:53 <PublicServer> <dwarf> I just moved here :D 21:27:03 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> im in Eastern time zone,. might check in later tonight 21:27:17 <PublicServer> <dwarf> anyways, cy 21:27:20 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> later 21:27:23 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> speaking of the USA 21:27:25 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 21:27:31 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> where's sylf? Did he get hit by a tornado? 21:27:41 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> there were tornados where he's at yesterday 21:34:01 *** dwarf has quit IRC 21:36:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm 21:36:49 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> slh8 has caused some jamming 21:36:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added some penalties to avoid 21:40:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> I have an open connection at BBH05 :( 21:41:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> any ideas? 21:42:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 21:42:36 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> msh 01b is getting slow 21:43:03 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> i thin kwe beed a better mix 21:43:25 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> at !here, they are prefering the outer lane 21:44:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm... add mixing? 21:46:34 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> ahh, flow is much better now 21:47:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm 21:47:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh7 is jammed 21:47:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> trains dont have enough mixing oportunities 21:47:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> flow is very unequal 21:48:04 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> wel lgood news is that one industry is gone 21:48:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> the inner line in the ring has nearly no trains in this directiopn 21:50:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> what is that? 21:50:33 <mfb-> 3rd line v2? 21:50:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 21:50:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> balancer v3 21:51:51 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 21:52:25 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 21:52:27 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 21:52:29 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> bb 21:53:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we need to remove those tunnels in slh 8 21:54:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> why? 21:56:18 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 21:56:44 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 21:57:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hopefully this works better 21:59:19 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 21:59:37 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone forgot to combo a signal in bbh8 21:59:43 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> leading to a prio not being a prio xD 22:00:02 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hopefully it will unjam ring 1 22:03:41 <XeryusTC> !rcon set max_trains 700 22:04:53 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Is that mixer in BBH02 such a good idea? Now almost all trains take the full east line, almost none the west one. 22:05:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lopo seems to like these kind of joiners 22:05:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where one lane from both direction chooses 22:05:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes. 22:06:02 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added a penalty for good measure 22:06:21 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's right, I saw him building 06. 22:07:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's all coming back to me, oh, the horror, the horror! 22:08:29 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added a penalty anyway 22:08:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> balances a bit better now it seems 22:08:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but ring 4 might need a 4th 22:10:17 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Seems to flow alliright, and the end of the third is not even connected yet. 22:10:59 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lo 22:11:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, that's only fromo the drop. 22:11:22 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 22:11:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> lo 22:11:37 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hey, look! Its that new member ;)\ 22:11:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Is it? Where? 22:12:04 <XeryusTC> he must be the oldest member 22:12:07 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I heard about it, but haven;t sen him yet. 22:12:32 <mfb-> :p 22:17:24 <mfb-> Mazur: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Community:Members 22:18:03 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> oh goodie, i can finally see where everyone lives now =D 22:18:26 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hmm, where am I at ? 22:18:29 <XeryusTC> oh right 22:18:35 <XeryusTC> i shall file Mazur under the right list 22:19:11 <mfb-> oh, and I think Mucht and me are in the wrong order 22:19:47 <Mazur> Well, I did not move either there, did I. 22:20:14 <XeryusTC> no 22:20:15 <XeryusTC> fixing :P 22:20:18 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> who do I kidnap to get on the list? 22:20:32 <mfb-> become a "usual suspect" :p 22:20:46 <Mazur> useful helps, too. 22:20:52 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> Im already on the post office wall 22:21:09 <XeryusTC> oh, someone already updated :s 22:21:39 <Mazur> Yeah, odd how quick that goes when someone gets it pointed out. 22:22:38 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hey so a friend of mine had an idea for me in real life 22:22:42 <Mazur> It's like that magical split in BBH 06, I think it must be some elves, you know, like hte kind that used to make shoes for the kind, poor cobbler. 22:22:52 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> since i build computers and sell them, they mentioned i should include openttd in programs =D 22:23:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> LOL train in a dish :D 22:23:38 <Mazur> Yezzz, moar annoying clueless newbies for me to kcik around. 22:23:46 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol 22:24:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> all bridges in ring 4 should be golden :P 22:24:27 <Mazur> Oh, should I hgave a * to my name? 22:24:29 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 22:24:40 <XeryusTC> dunno, do you have ssh access? 22:24:47 <mfb-> :D 22:25:08 <Mazur> Were you not around when pm did his magic this afternoon? 22:25:22 <XeryusTC> yes, but you failed to give a proper key, twice 22:25:34 <XeryusTC> then i went off to do other stuff 22:25:36 <Mazur> Nope, pm failed to know how to use those. 22:25:38 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> do we need gold bridges all around? 22:25:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no, i just prefer gold bridges :P 22:26:03 <Mazur> So I gave him a raw line from my ssh file. 22:26:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> best bridges are the newbridges monorail track-only 22:26:30 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> there should be a multi bridege 22:28:30 <XeryusTC> !trains 750 22:28:30 <Mazur> I've been dreaming about a newgrf with separate bridge parts on pillars, so you could build bends and stuff. 22:28:45 <XeryusTC> !rcon set max_trains 750 22:31:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, i build 13/19 SLHs :D 22:31:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 22:31:48 <Meechtastic> haha omg, check this stuff out if yo uget the chance =D http://www.masswerk.at/googleBBS/ 22:31:49 <Webster> Title: Google BBS Terminal (at www.masswerk.at) 22:34:13 <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 22:34:42 <PublicServer> <Big Meech> tired here, will bb tomorrow or later today =D 22:36:55 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:37:26 <mfb-> good night 22:37:36 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn 22:38:18 *** mfb- has quit IRC 22:38:23 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 22:38:36 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 22:38:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:43:39 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 22:44:54 <Hazzard> !password 22:44:54 <PublicServer> Hazzard: whiled 22:45:23 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 22:45:35 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Upgraded already?! 22:49:26 *** Razaekel is now known as Guest593 22:49:26 *** Razaekal has joined #openttdcoop 22:49:26 *** Razaekal is now known as Razaekel 22:50:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> upgrading is fast 22:54:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, someone had replaced hte wings with decorative end-bits. 22:54:54 *** Guest593 has quit IRC 23:01:30 <PublicServer> <Sietse> gnight 23:01:34 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Night 23:01:36 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (leaving) 23:10:46 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 23:11:17 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> fffs 23:20:59 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Why third end? 23:21:07 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Oh nvm 23:21:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ring 1 might need a 3rd 23:21:44 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Once again I have made a stupid mistake 23:23:27 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> What 23:23:35 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That doesn't even make sense 23:23:45 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> ._. 23:25:27 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Does the pbs signal not know there is a train going that way? 23:25:29 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just turning signals into pbs might cause trains to crash 23:26:39 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That has never happened to me before 23:26:42 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Weird 23:31:10 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I gtg now 23:33:13 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (leaving) 23:33:13 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:33:26 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 23:33:29 <dwarf> !password 23:33:29 <PublicServer> dwarf: bugled 23:33:34 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 23:34:11 <dwarf> !password 23:34:11 <PublicServer> dwarf: mooter 23:34:32 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:34:32 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:34:33 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 23:38:37 *** Ihmemies has quit IRC 23:43:06 *** Ihmemies has joined #openttdcoop 23:46:21 *** valhallasw has quit IRC