Log for #openttdcoop on 12th October 2012:
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00:00:08  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> I figure its bedtime now
00:00:11  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> what is an S bend?
00:00:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> this
00:00:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> more descriptively
00:00:38  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> is the thing under my bridge a problem?
00:00:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> this could seem like CL3
00:00:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> but isnt because it is an Sbend
00:01:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> the thing you make is a normal CL1
00:01:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> bridges are fine
00:01:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> also gnight Ben :)
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00:01:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh what
00:02:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> nevermind
00:02:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
00:02:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just fucked up
00:02:17  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> ?
00:02:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> I built secondary to the wrong station
00:07:00  <V453000> !auto
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00:09:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the fruit is pretty wtf :) I gotta fix that tomorrow
00:10:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh well at least it is crates, could be worse
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00:11:41  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass>  feel like I did this backwards
00:12:28  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> i should have split then merged
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00:13:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the optimal case is to have an idea of both from the start ;)
00:13:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> but you can always fill it up somehow .)
00:13:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> that comes with time, just deal with the situation somehow
00:13:35  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> k
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00:31:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty well done
00:31:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
00:31:25  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> thanks, almost goti t
00:34:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> many industries are starting to get a monthly supply
00:34:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> skyrocketing production very soon
00:35:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can do this
00:35:35  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> oh
00:35:37  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> smart
00:35:47  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> ty :)
00:35:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> yw
00:36:16  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> that was genius
00:36:28  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> I don't see those things yet
00:36:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty solid SLH, well done
00:36:34  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> ty
00:37:12  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> my first :)
00:37:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> exceptionally good for first SLH
00:38:29  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> I like it.
00:39:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> im mainly happy that the plan works flawless so far
00:39:23  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> I don't understand it haha
00:39:30  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> never played a refit game
00:39:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is actually pretty simple
00:39:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains from primaries go and deliver the raw cargo, then they pick up the supplies and return to their primary
00:40:12  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> so same train that delivers raws picks up the goods?
00:40:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> the other train on the inside (maglev) make sure that the supplies get produced from the raw cargo, and transfer them to make them ready for the raw trains
00:40:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> sort of
00:40:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> in a typical refit games it is for example oil -> goods
00:40:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> here it is a bit different
00:41:05  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> the orders are crazy
00:41:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> the point of all this is, we have a centralized production of supplies and then we redistribute them to all primaries, even those which cannot produce them in their chain
00:41:25  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> on the maglev trains
00:41:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> could be worse
00:41:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
00:41:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is the simpliest refit orders we have
00:42:02  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> what's all that logic for?
00:42:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is point B of plan
00:42:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is a wagon trick
00:42:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> 7 wagons are raw cargo, 8th is universal
00:42:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> so 8 wagons can refit to any raw cargo
00:42:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> and only 1 can refit to supplies
00:42:55  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> so it counts?
00:43:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> no no
00:43:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> the sugar/grain cannot use this trick as they are hoppers and farm supplies are hoppers too
00:43:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> so they would just refit all 8
00:43:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> and this logic makes sure only 1 wagon of supplies goes to each train
00:43:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you watch it carefully you can see that each train departs with 30t supplies
00:44:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> except this lost wood train :D
00:44:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> shouldnt happen again
00:44:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway, this is just to make the trick affect also the grain/sugar farms :)
00:45:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> all other industries work with it as the wagon combination is available
00:45:19  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> neat
00:45:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah I really like it
00:45:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is arguably the cleanest way to do FIRS
00:45:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I have tried quite a few alread
00:45:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> y
00:45:53  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> FIRS?
00:45:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> the industry set
00:45:58  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> k
00:46:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> fun what can one insane train set do :>
00:46:57  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> so
00:47:15  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> this is the same thing multiple times right?
00:47:16  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> it's not just 1 thing
00:47:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you mean
00:47:38  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> uh
00:47:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> the logic?
00:47:50  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> can multiple trains come through at once
00:47:54  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> or is all this logic for 1 train
00:47:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is one identical mechanism made 6 times
00:47:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> one for each platform
00:48:00  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> k
00:48:00  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> yeah
00:48:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I fucking hate those wood trains getting lost
00:48:24  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> does it fuck it up?
00:48:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> missing waypoints or what
00:48:58  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> nvm
00:49:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> should be fine now
00:50:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> the logic is rather simple
00:50:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> the small train is waiting for a big train to arrive into the waiting bay
00:50:16  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> all logic is once you understand it
00:50:20  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> I just don't understand it :)
00:50:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> once that happens, it goes to unload
00:50:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> when it is unloading, big train is released
00:50:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> and no new small train can go unload until big train is out of the platform
00:51:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> the gates are well ... gates :)
00:51:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> the triangle gates are a bit special, the circle is a NOT gate
00:51:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is a bit decribed in @ABR09
00:52:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> @@ABR09
00:52:03  <Webster> [Errno 113] No route to host -
00:52:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah that one
00:59:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway
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00:59:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will have to go
00:59:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> im totally dead
00:59:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> cant remember when I was playing 12 hours straight last  :D
00:59:44  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> haha k
00:59:46  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> good night V
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00:59:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> good times :) cya
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06:44:21  <Dom_> !password
06:44:21  <PublicServer> Dom_: archer
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09:22:07  <Guest1459> !password
09:22:07  <PublicServer> Guest1459: tanker
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09:49:00  <Sassafrass> !PASSWORD
09:49:03  <Sassafrass> !password
09:49:03  <PublicServer> Sassafrass: tanker
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10:35:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> morning bitches :)
10:45:52  <V453000> !unpause
10:45:52  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.)
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10:47:27  <V453000> !auto
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10:51:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> hio
10:51:53  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hello
10:53:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> join company? :)
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10:56:17  <PublicServer> <Bassals> there is actual alcohol in firs
10:56:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> used to be beer though
10:56:30  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I thought it was a joke...
10:56:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
10:58:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you wanted to build then just pick a SLH spot :p
10:58:25  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I am still reading the plan hahhaha
10:58:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh ok :)
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11:11:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> still reading? :P
11:11:43  <PublicServer> <Bassals> i finished that :-D
11:11:53  <PublicServer> <Bassals> are you building?
11:12:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> no im fixing nuts :)
11:12:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> building now, it compiles :s
11:12:44  <PublicServer> <Bassals> how big is the changelog? XD
11:12:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am probably going to add a seventh station as recyclables/fish
11:13:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> not big, 2 lines :)
11:13:10  <Dom_> !password
11:13:10  <PublicServer> Dom_: snared
11:13:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> just bugfixes/improvements, nothing new
11:13:19  <PublicServer> <Bassals> a seventh cluster?
11:13:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> speaking of something new I have a new blog "article" :p
11:13:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> not exactly cluster as it wont refit
11:13:38  <PublicServer> <Dom> hi
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11:13:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
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11:14:39  <PublicServer> <Bassals> but it seems that the 4th is still not done
11:15:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> fucking finally
11:15:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> funded fishing harbour
11:15:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> hard as hell
11:15:50  <PublicServer> <Bassals> did you want it in there?
11:16:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it is a bit far but
11:16:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> could do it elsewhere I guess
11:16:31  <V453000> !rcon set found_town
11:16:31  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'found_town' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 2)
11:16:33  <V453000> !rcon set found_town 2
11:17:10  <V453000> !rcon set found_town 0
11:17:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> there we go
11:19:59  <PublicServer> <Dom> afk
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11:37:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> cool nuts fixed :)
11:38:16  <bassals> cool
11:42:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> and MSH 07 is there
11:55:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains grouped :)
12:05:41  <PublicServer> <Bassals> is there a reason for !this?
12:05:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> doubt that
12:10:46  <Sassafrass> !password
12:10:46  <PublicServer> Sassafrass: lashed
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12:11:00  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hello
12:11:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> hiy
12:11:14  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> hey
12:11:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> nuts 0.3.4 available :)
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12:11:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will load it
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12:13:10  <V453000> !content
12:13:10  <PublicServer> V453000: Connection established
12:13:10  <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
12:13:10  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
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12:13:24  <V453000> !content
12:13:26  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
12:13:26  <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 6 file(s) (1299094 bytes)
12:13:26  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
12:13:33  <V453000> !getsave
12:13:35  <PublicServer> V453000: OK :-)
12:13:41  <V453000> !restart
12:13:41  <PublicServer> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
12:14:01  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
12:14:01  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r24578.
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12:14:43  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
12:14:43  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG245 (r24578) | STAGE: Insanity (Building) | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
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12:15:20  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000100A7:
12:15:22  <V453000> !rcon cd 3
12:15:23  <V453000> !rcon load 2
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12:15:27  <V453000> !auto
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12:15:29  <V453000> !changepw
12:15:29  <PublicServer> V453000: Password changed to mushes
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12:15:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> :>
12:15:49  <bassals> is it okay to update a newgrf mid-game?
12:15:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you know what you are doing
12:16:03  <bassals> doesn't openttd freak out or something?
12:16:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know exactly what changes in nuts so it is :)
12:16:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt update any other train set for example
12:16:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> or if there was a major change in nuts
12:16:50  <Sassafrass> !password
12:16:50  <PublicServer> Sassafrass: mushes
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12:17:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> nuts isnt really getting any game-breaking features as replacing/removing engines so it is pretty safe
12:17:22  <TyrHeimdal> !help
12:17:22  <PublicServer> TyrHeimdal:
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12:17:29  <bassals> yea
12:17:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> changes are either changing appearance or adjusting train stats
12:17:35  <TyrHeimdal> @quickstart
12:17:38  <Webster> [Errno 113] No route to host -
12:17:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> train stats could make your network jam but shouldnt crash anything
12:18:01  <bassals> !quickstart
12:18:06  <V453000> KenjiE20: Webster is having some issues with links - no route to host
12:18:09  <V453000> links are fine though
12:18:42  <KenjiE20> Ammler, ^Spike^ ^ servers broke again
12:18:47  <KenjiE20> :p
12:18:50  <V453000> :D
12:18:56  <bassals> oh
12:19:02  <Dom_> !password
12:19:02  <PublicServer> Dom_: mushes
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12:19:19  <PublicServer> <Dom> hello
12:19:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
12:19:30  <KenjiE20> (possbily broke still, whichever)
12:19:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> join :)
12:20:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk why do you even join as spectators :)
12:20:09  <PublicServer> <Dom> cant maybe later sry gtgo again but
12:20:16  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I can join
12:20:22  <PublicServer> <Dom> take a look to hvammstangi arable farm
12:20:26  <PublicServer> <Dom> exis is missing
12:20:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> guess why I want you to join
12:20:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> seriously spectating is pointless
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12:21:05  <PublicServer> <Dom> anyways gtgo again :D
12:21:36  <Sassafrass> I'm spectating
12:21:37  <Sassafrass> that's why
12:23:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> still useful to put signs of the results of your spectating etc .p
12:24:40  <PublicServer> <Bassals> what do you mean?
12:24:46  <PublicServer> <Bassals> like unfinished things?
12:24:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> like anything worth reporting :)
12:25:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> placing signs for discussion, fixing things
12:25:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> anything
12:25:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> never hurts to be in the company
12:25:44  <PublicServer> <Bassals> by the way, do you guys like PBS now
12:25:57  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I can see a lot of them and you use to hate them
12:25:59  <Sassafrass> yes
12:26:07  <Sassafrass> Oh
12:26:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> it has its uses
12:26:12  <Sassafrass> I thought you were asking about the new graphics
12:26:12  <KenjiE20> we never hated them
12:26:22  <KenjiE20> we just hated people being lazy with them
12:26:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> more like that
12:27:09  <PublicServer> <Bassals> the entrance to FISH DROP is a bit lazy
12:27:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> not exactly
12:27:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the same as presignals technically
12:27:36  <Ammler> @quickstart
12:27:37  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
12:27:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> worse are the various X-es and stuff
12:27:49  <Ammler> fixed?
12:27:56  <V453000> seemingly :)
12:29:07  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I can see that in a few months we will be using PBS like regular signals in ML
12:29:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
12:29:13  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I'm kidding XD
12:29:22  * KenjiE20 would slap bassals, but is not being violent today
12:30:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is just two different things which can and should be used differently. But situations where they can be exchanged (pbs for presignals and vice versa), people start comparing them
12:30:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is dumb as hell
12:32:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> generally, pre-signals are better for specific precise logic in total, not jsut the logic which is gates
12:32:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> PBS can be abused because it searches for the path based on the things directly in front of it
12:32:29  <KenjiE20> while PBS is good for parallel processing
12:32:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt even mention that
12:32:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is actually the thing which makes people go wtf
12:33:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> but the real usage is elsewhere
12:33:16  <V453000> let me show
12:33:24  <KenjiE20> mutli pathed junctions is pretty much all I use it for in my games :p
12:34:09  <PublicServer> <Bassals> when I came here pretty much the only use for PBS were as a PFP
12:34:13  <V453000> yes and that is the wrong thing
12:34:33  <V453000> I mean, it obviously works
12:34:37  <V453000> but main usage is elsewhere
12:35:32  <KenjiE20> yeah, my games aren't about throughput, I like them 'ineresting' :)
12:35:43  <KenjiE20> interesting*
12:36:17  <V453000> best shown here
12:36:28  <V453000> the unique feature is that PBS can decide which of the prios is green
12:36:28  <V453000> and go there
12:36:31  <V453000> you cant do that with presignals
12:36:46  <V453000> and it works really well
12:37:25  <V453000> almost every other usage of PBS is not really important as it can be solved otherwise
12:37:26  <V453000> this cant
12:37:44  <V453000> see my point?
12:38:02  <KenjiE20> yep
12:38:25  <KenjiE20> but like I say, I play my games different :p
12:38:28  <V453000> I guess I dont have to make example of what presignals can do and PBS cant ... that is abit obvious :)
12:38:36  <V453000> meh :)
12:38:36  <KenjiE20> whoops, didn't close the bold right
12:39:18  <V453000> but of course we also use PBS in "messy" stuff
12:39:25  <V453000> often it doesnt even make problems
12:39:48  <V453000> psg219 which had 2666 trains had a lot of that
12:39:49  <V453000> and it worked flawless
12:40:39  <V453000> so by no means I am saying that the multitasking feature of PBS is bad; but it should not be taken as the primary one I think ... simply because noobs use it only that way and get stuck with it
12:41:05  <V453000> usually making people use presignals is the first key step towards the "right" building :)
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12:44:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> well I will have to go for local elections and some other stuff
12:44:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> communists gonna win with 40% :D our region is fucked
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12:44:45  <bassals> oh really?
12:44:50  <V453000> oh fucking really :(
12:44:59  <V453000> not like we had communism for 40 years
12:46:03  <bassals> I though that most former communist countries had a small support for modern communism
12:46:38  <V453000> yes, 20-40%
12:46:40  <V453000> :d
12:46:46  <V453000> it is a bit complicated here
12:46:59  <bassals> I guess
12:47:07  <V453000> current "right wing" government is trying to uncover corruption but of course it goes also against them
12:47:21  <V453000> and all communists do is populistic crap which the people eat completely
12:47:48  <bassals> I don't really know much about Czech politics
12:47:55  <bassals> Catalan politics are exciting enough
12:47:59  <V453000> we have two communistic parties, ones call them socialists but they are probably even worse than communists
12:48:12  <V453000> in total they currently have about 40%
12:49:12  <bassals> but are they like social democratic or something more commie?
12:49:23  <V453000> officially social democratic
12:49:28  <V453000> but with same program as commies
12:50:01  <V453000> they are just hand in hand, idk why arent they as one party
12:51:01  <V453000> but well, government elections should be in about 1.5 years so I hope things are going to change a bit
12:51:05  <V453000> so far it is changing to worse
12:53:23  <PublicServer> <Sassafrass> hmm
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13:19:56  <Sassafrass_> Hey V
13:20:11  <Sassafrass_> or anyone
13:20:15  <Sassafrass_> can you tell me what's wrong here
13:20:16  <Sassafrass_>
13:20:17  <Webster> Title: 2012-10-12_0719 - Sastoman's library (at
13:20:30  <Sassafrass_> the train likes to go to the red exit signal over the green combo signal
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13:24:37  <Ammler> Sassafrass_: force atrain to use the green path
13:26:05  <Sassafrass_> how
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14:08:42  <TyrHeimdal> !help
14:08:42  <PublicServer> TyrHeimdal:
14:09:57  <TyrHeimdal> hmmm
14:10:08  <TyrHeimdal> how do I join the servers to watch?
14:10:21  <TyrHeimdal> well, joining the servers at all is a good start
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14:13:39  <Ammler> @quickstart
14:13:40  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
14:13:46  <Ammler> TyrHeimdal: ^
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14:15:51  <TyrHeimdal> Ah!
14:16:02  <TyrHeimdal> that didn't eork when I tried it earlier today :)
14:16:04  <TyrHeimdal> thanks :)
14:16:06  <TyrHeimdal> *work
14:23:30  <bassals> you can spectate to look what has been done but right now there's nobody playing
14:36:08  <V453000> !password
14:36:08  <PublicServer> V453000: huffed
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14:36:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> hyyy
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14:37:41  <PublicServer> Tray: huffed
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14:38:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
14:38:28  <PublicServer> <Tray> hi
14:38:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi hi
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15:39:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> :z
15:39:10  <V453000> !unpause
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16:10:53  <TyrHeimdal> bassals: I just wanna look and see how things are buildt, and try to follow the progress and learn a bit now and then :)
16:11:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> just join :)
16:11:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> nobody will eat your head off
16:13:41  <bassals> of course
16:17:00  <bassals> also I can answer you if you have any specific question TyrHeimdal
16:17:10  <TyrHeimdal> sweet
16:17:16  <TyrHeimdal> This is why I love IRC still
16:17:23  <TyrHeimdal> people are still nice here :P
16:19:03  <V453000> not on all IRC channels :)
16:19:10  <TyrHeimdal> I know, I know
16:19:23  <TyrHeimdal> I'
16:19:37  <TyrHeimdal> I've been on IRC for about 16-17 years
16:19:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :d
16:20:04  <TyrHeimdal> but this is a nice channel, with nice people. It's not hard to tell :)
16:20:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes :)
16:20:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> except me, I am a terrible person
16:20:37  <TyrHeimdal> right, thanks for the heads up ^^
16:20:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> having problems with joining the server or? :)
16:21:35  <TyrHeimdal> Version mismatch
16:21:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> @@quickstart
16:21:42  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
16:21:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> it should all be covered there
16:23:03  <TyrHeimdal> !dl win64
16:23:03  <PublicServer> TyrHeimdal:
16:24:36  <bassals> V453000: are all of the current newgrf in bananas?
16:24:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> + pack of course
16:24:50  <bassals> or will he need the pack?
16:25:01  <bassals> ah
16:25:56  <TyrHeimdal> grf pack over twice the size of the game itself? ^^
16:26:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> not too surprising :)
16:27:07  <TyrHeimdal> it says to unpack it into the newgrf folder
16:27:15  <TyrHeimdal> i don't have one
16:27:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> you sure? :p
16:27:23  <TyrHeimdal> just make it in the game root folder?
16:27:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> windows?
16:27:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> documents/opnttd/data is the best folder
16:27:45  <bassals> not in the same foldes ar the executable
16:27:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> you could put it to the game but if you do that then it works only for that one version
16:28:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> so if you use multiple versions, documents is better as it works for all
16:28:10  <bassals> yes that's what I mean
16:28:13  <TyrHeimdal> aaah
16:28:30  <TyrHeimdal> that could be clearer in the documentation
16:28:37  <bassals> usually the savegames and the newgrf you want to save them in the documents so that it's shared
16:28:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> tell them but dont mention my name :)
16:30:16  <TyrHeimdal> !password
16:30:16  <PublicServer> TyrHeimdal: loomed
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16:30:28  <TyrHeimdal> theeeere we go
16:30:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome :)
16:30:42  <TyrHeimdal> thanks :)
16:33:20  <TyrHeimdal> oh my....
16:33:36  <TyrHeimdal> that's quite a bit more different types of goods...
16:33:50  <PublicServer> <Bassals> this game we are using FIRS
16:34:16  <PublicServer> <Bassals> that is a newgrf with many different kinds of industries
16:35:43  <PublicServer> <TyrHeimdal> This is so cool! :D
16:35:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
16:37:03  <bassals> v: did you want to test nuts with firs?
16:37:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> not exactly
16:37:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> just wanted to use it :)
16:37:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> the plan isnt possible with any other train set
16:37:43  <PublicServer> <Bassals> because of the univ wagon?
16:37:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course
16:38:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> also I cant say I am somehow terrible attracted by other sets anymore :)
16:39:22  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I understand, NUTS is great
16:41:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> im going to make something totally off the chain now :)
16:41:10  <PublicServer> <Bassals> ?
16:42:00  <PublicServer> <Bassals> engineering supplies is a battery?
16:42:03  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hahaha
16:42:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> hell yes
16:42:14  <TyrHeimdal> bbl, got to feed the baby, and evetually put her to bed :)
16:42:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> it powers up the industries :)
16:42:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> see you :)
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16:56:01  <Dom_> !password
16:56:01  <PublicServer> Dom_: spires
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16:56:22  <PublicServer> <Dom> hello
16:56:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> h
16:56:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> y
16:56:28  <TyrHeimdal> Looking at all the railways you guys are building, I have no idea how or where to start trying to understand how it's all connected
16:56:40  <PublicServer> <Dom> wiki page :)
16:56:47  <PublicServer> <Dom> that's where i started
16:56:53  <PublicServer> <Dom> and stable server
16:57:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> stable server is useful only if you dont know absolutely anything, like not even signals
16:57:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> and you still learn here faster no matter what
16:57:23  <PublicServer> <Dom> true
16:58:10  <TyrHeimdal> I got the point with entry and exit pre-signals
16:58:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats good
16:58:30  <TyrHeimdal> but that's about it
16:58:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is enough :)
16:59:01  <TyrHeimdal> not the combo signals though
16:59:25  <TyrHeimdal> well, I got the point, but didn't get it to work as I wanted
16:59:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> just try to build stuff here
16:59:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> start from small stations and work from up there
16:59:49  <PublicServer> <Dom> and ABR
16:59:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> ABR is for later
16:59:59  <TyrHeimdal> abr?
17:00:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> advanced building revue, a series of articles about theory
17:00:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> the advanced is there for a reason
17:00:46  <TyrHeimdal> hehe, usually is
17:01:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> yay
17:01:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> my farm cluster is running
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17:07:26  <Dom_> !password
17:07:26  <PublicServer> Dom_: bubbly
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17:23:15  <PublicServer> <Bassals> is it OK to send trains to the brickworks?
17:23:31  <PublicServer> <Bassals> even though it is not connected yet to the central station?
17:23:41  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hmmm I guess it is...
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17:29:39  <Firestar> hi
17:29:49  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hello
17:30:15  <Firestar> how things going?
17:30:24  <PublicServer> <Bassals> okay
17:30:36  <Firestar> lot to build in server?
17:30:52  <PublicServer> <Bassals> sort of
17:31:09  <Firestar> !password
17:31:09  <PublicServer> Firestar: rinked
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17:36:14  <PublicServer> <Bassals> can we connect fishes?
17:37:02  <PublicServer> <Firestar> long time no see V453000
17:41:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello
17:41:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes fishes are ready ... not too complicated .p
17:42:21  <PublicServer> <Bassals> it does not say to accept fish
17:42:23  <PublicServer> <Bassals> to me
17:42:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesn ow
17:42:41  <PublicServer> <Firestar> bassals wanna build together a bit? i need to get into the game again xD
17:43:01  <PublicServer> <Bassals> okay
17:44:45  <PublicServer> <Firestar> just tell me where youre working
17:45:12  <PublicServer> <Bassals> well i just built sudhureyri fish to try fishes
17:45:18  <PublicServer> <Bassals> but it's finished
17:45:48  <PublicServer> <Bassals> apparently people in fishing grounds prefer to bottle fish
17:45:58  <PublicServer> <Bassals> rather that fish it
17:46:13  <PublicServer> <Firestar> lol
17:46:18  <Dom_> !password
17:46:18  <PublicServer> Dom_: tolled
17:46:28  <PublicServer> <Bassals> that sentence sounds weird in english
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17:46:48  <PublicServer> <Dom> hi
17:46:54  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hello
17:46:54  <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi
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17:51:05  <PublicServer> <Bassals> fish trains will not need to refit
17:51:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
17:51:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no reason to
17:51:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> why dont you build a new SLH :/
17:51:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> there are four total
17:51:58  <PublicServer> <Firestar> erm V
17:52:16  <PublicServer> <Firestar> i havent played ottd for like 2-3 months xD
17:52:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> me neither?
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17:52:35  <TyrHeimdal> Aaaaaah, now this should be a nice evening. Kid is in bed, GF is at a concert with her mom, nachos with cheese in the oven, Babylon 5 playing on the HTPC and now to fire up openttd again
17:52:47  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hello again
17:52:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
17:53:03  <PublicServer> <Firestar> maybe i forgot how to make SLHs?
17:53:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> you cant do that
17:53:15  <TyrHeimdal> !password
17:53:15  <PublicServer> TyrHeimdal: tolled
17:53:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least I cant imagine how
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17:54:00  <PublicServer> <Firestar> can you imagine me forgetting some things when i play GTA for 2-3 months and no ottd?
17:54:10  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hahahaha
17:54:13  <PublicServer> <Dom> V
17:54:20  <PublicServer> <Dom> you forgott a line in msh 07
17:54:26  <TyrHeimdal> but they are almost the same game!?
17:54:27  <TyrHeimdal> :P
17:54:43  <PublicServer> <Firestar> not on multiplayer
17:54:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> I can imagine that GTA generates esrious mindfuck, but  still, openttd is logical game, everything in it makes sense, I dont understand how do you forget something
17:55:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh yeah thanks :)
17:55:09  <PublicServer> <Dom> :)
17:55:15  <PublicServer> <Dom> np
17:55:19  <PublicServer> <Firestar> school stuff etc
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17:57:30  <TyrHeimdal> Just beneth the sign saying MSH01/V453000 there are 2-3 rectangels with light on them
17:57:44  <TyrHeimdal> what do they do?
17:57:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> @@priority
17:57:55  <V453000> @prio
17:57:55  <Webster> prio: Priority, see also:
17:58:23  <TyrHeimdal> kk, reading :)
17:59:37  <PublicServer> <Dom> gtgo
17:59:39  <PublicServer> <Dom> bb
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18:03:16  <TyrHeimdal> ok, I think i understand how they work
18:03:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> the purpose is rather simple
18:03:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> they give way
18:03:49  <TyrHeimdal> yeah, that part I understood
18:03:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> the usage is a bit different, they are used to make trains choose the right track where is not high traffic
18:04:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> and stuff around that
18:04:12  <TyrHeimdal> aha
18:04:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> for example
18:04:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you merge one line which does not have any choices
18:04:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> and a line which chooses from 3 other lines
18:04:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> the one which has no choice must get priority because it must not jam
18:05:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> you will get that when you build mergers, that is later on
18:06:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> first off you should try to either build small stations on a sideline
18:06:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> or even try a sideline hub
18:07:15  <TyrHeimdal> ...and those insane speed trains running in circles?
18:08:09  <bassals> buff that is logic stuff
18:08:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is logic gates, ignoere that for the moment
18:08:25  <TyrHeimdal> roger
18:08:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> simply said it is trains which react on presignals and do something with the
18:08:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> like inverting green to red signal typically
18:11:10  <TyrHeimdal> should I watch for a while? or should I join and try to build something under strict supervision?
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18:11:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> as you want really
18:11:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> building is obviously the best way to learn
18:11:52  <[1]Mark> yo
18:11:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> investigating stuff is good too of course
18:11:55  <[1]Mark> wtf
18:11:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi noob
18:12:01  <V453000> [1]
18:12:08  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hello mark
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18:14:20  <Mark> !password
18:14:20  <PublicServer> Mark: victor
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18:14:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> hyyyy
18:14:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> noob
18:14:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^^
18:15:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> :P
18:15:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:15:08  <PublicServer> <Bassals> are you in Europe?
18:15:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> i am
18:15:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> dunno why
18:15:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> he is so dumb he doesnt even know where he is
18:15:25  <TyrHeimdal> I had no idea there where "addons" making the game this complex
18:15:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> i dont even know who i am most of the time
18:15:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> :DDD
18:15:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah, newGRFs can do basically anything :)
18:17:00  <bassals> that is a bit of an overstatement....
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18:17:25  <TyrHeimdal> !password
18:17:25  <PublicServer> TyrHeimdal: rascal
18:17:34  <V453000> well they obviously wont turn the game into a RPG FPS shooter
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18:17:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> but you can change pretty much anything in the game
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18:22:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyone discovered my triple refit cheat yet? :)
18:27:57  <PublicServer> <Bassals> wow why did you make such a complex in the FS pickup?
18:28:11  <PublicServer> <Bassals> is it so that FS don't decay, perhaps?
18:28:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> that is cheating :P
18:29:16  <PublicServer> <Bassals> cheating? ¬¬'
18:29:30  <Jam35> you mean refitting to 3 cargoes simultaneously?
18:29:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> its not cheating
18:29:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> Jam35 pretty much
18:29:38  <Jam35> why cheating?
18:29:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> the FS pickup just allows for the 30t of cargo per train pickup
18:30:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> otherwise trains would take everything they can
18:30:13  <PublicServer> <Bassals> ah yeah
18:30:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> because cargoes which are in hopper and FS in hopper cannot do the trick
18:30:29  <PublicServer> <Bassals> for hopper cargos
18:30:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> makes no sense
18:30:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> how come
18:30:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> this way sugar and grain trains get their supplies
18:31:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> jk :P
18:31:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> :DDD
18:31:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> nub
18:31:25  <TyrHeimdal> you rang? :P
18:31:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> and while at it, the triple refit is to allow 1->6 split and not make trains load there
18:31:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> where is that triple refit?
18:31:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> if it was just livestock/milk/FS train, they would load LV/milk
18:32:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> bottom corner of the map, cant miss it
18:32:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> right
18:33:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> thats stupid
18:33:28  <PublicServer> <Mark> pretty clever
18:33:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
18:33:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:33:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> :(
18:33:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:35:48  <Mark> wtf you drunk? :P
18:36:06  <V453000> nah just couldnt decide what to make of your retarded answer
18:36:11  <V453000> <3
18:36:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:41:45  <bassals> !ping
18:41:45  <PublicServer> bassals: pong
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18:46:43  <TyrHeimdal> overwhelming
18:46:45  <TyrHeimdal> so!
18:46:50  <TyrHeimdal> where do you want me to start?
18:46:58  <TyrHeimdal> I'm a total n00b here
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18:47:20  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi
18:47:26  <TyrHeimdal> hi
18:48:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk, sideline stations require refit and SLH is under traffic and with LLL_RRR
18:48:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> pick :)
18:48:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> for either, definitely get a partner
18:50:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have to go so I wont be particularly useful
18:50:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will be around but having guests
18:50:32  <TyrHeimdal> np
18:50:45  <TyrHeimdal> I'll try to watch some more first me thinks
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18:57:38  <bassals> i'm back
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18:58:38  <PublicServer> <Bassals> ah but he's gone
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19:34:44  <mfb-> hi
19:35:43  <mfb-> !password
19:35:43  <PublicServer> mfb-: arouse
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19:39:59  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, progress
19:43:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> I think CD entrance needs trains (?)
19:44:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah...
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19:44:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> I see
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20:09:09  <PublicServer> <mfb> FrozenFish Coal Mine, great
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20:11:15  <Maraxus> !password
20:11:15  <PublicServer> Maraxus: legals
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20:11:33  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
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20:41:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> first brickworks-ES :)
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22:23:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> my quarry is cheating
22:24:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> had 1000 production before
22:24:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> but now it reads "maximum production reached" with just 896 tons
22:24:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> there, 1008 again
22:24:52  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> something to do with delivered supplies?
22:25:10  <PublicServer> <mfb> which I cannot see, as max production is reached :D
22:25:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> reykholt quarry
22:28:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> stable at 1008 now
22:28:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> strange
22:29:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> and that dredging site refuses to increase its production. 252 tons each
22:29:51  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> not at max?
22:29:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> far away from max
22:30:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, 261. first change this year :D
22:36:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :)
22:36:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
22:36:46  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
22:37:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh building materials :)
22:37:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> was missing somehow
22:38:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> somehow :)
22:38:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> do we use scrap metals from recycling stuff?
22:38:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> we could send it to alu plant
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22:39:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> that was my point
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22:39:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> what else eh :)
22:39:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> just do it :)
22:39:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> nike
22:39:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
22:39:59  <PublicServer> <mfb> busy with bauxite :p
22:40:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:40:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> have you seen my triple refit at the farm cluster yet? .)
22:40:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> SLH 04
22:40:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> triple refit? I saw the system
22:40:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh
22:40:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> why that?
22:41:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> the Cephalic Detonator?
22:41:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> why triple refit?
22:41:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> because if the supply trains had lv/milk available to pickup, they would
22:42:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> so if you do BM/alcohol trains can only uload FS at the farms
22:42:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> cant load anything
22:42:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh they do that all in 1 depot
22:42:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah that is the mgic
22:42:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> magic :)
22:42:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> nice
22:42:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can even observe that if you look at the depot interface
22:43:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> it happens in stages
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22:43:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> yeah
22:44:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> h
22:44:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> m
22:44:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> petrol & chemicals at center look jamming :D
22:44:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> fuck. :)
22:44:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
22:44:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> refinery drop, too
22:45:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> bad balancing
22:45:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> amazing
22:45:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
22:45:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> rather none than bad :)
22:46:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it is to be expected that refinery is the biggest, followed by metal
22:47:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> biggest production of supplies
22:47:17  <PublicServer> <mfb> SLH01 had some jam issues before
22:47:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> so I doubled the number of lines there :D
22:48:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk why but people seem to be extremely lazy to build just a fucking SLH
22:48:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> 4 sideline hubs in 2 days? wtf
22:49:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> takes some time
22:49:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> admittedly this game is not exacly beginner friendly, BBH is always hard, SLH is LLL_RRR and primary stations require refit
22:49:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> well, you can copy primary orders
22:50:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> but still, 4 is just ridiculous nuber, provided that you built one, I built 2 and Sassafrass built 1
22:50:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah but still :)
22:50:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> scares people
22:52:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> do you know why a quarry can have a variable production at "maximum production reached"?
22:52:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> what? it differs?
22:52:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> reykholt quarry
22:52:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> that I totally was not aware of
22:52:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> was 1008 before, 896 now
22:53:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> that was the second industry to get ES I think
22:53:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is pretty wtf
22:53:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> forests have the same feature
22:53:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> the order in which they get ES doesnt matter that much; I think industries can not only just die, but they cant even reduce production I think
22:54:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> well, it just means that the industry had enough time to reach max production
22:54:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> reaching max production and changing tat is weird though
22:54:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
22:54:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will consult that with andy
22:54:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> (author of firs)
22:56:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm shitload of oil at SLH 02 :D
22:56:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> it is oil, what do you expect :p
22:56:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> the maximum production is relatively easy to reach
22:56:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> after you get 1 train of supplies / month
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22:59:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> we could just add 1 more set of 4platforms for petrol/chemicals at center
22:59:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> IF THAT FUCKING BRICKWORKS WASNT IN THE WAY
22:59:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
23:00:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> other side
23:00:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will remove it by dozer eventually tomorrow
23:00:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> or yeah other side :)
23:00:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> true
23:00:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> move animals 4 tiles and the connection is fine
23:00:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
23:01:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> fuck you authority
23:02:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> stations .)
23:02:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> both industries @ metal station get both cargo types now :)
23:03:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats good
23:03:10  <PublicServer> <mfb> so we get endless metal
23:03:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> +ES
23:03:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is how it is intended how it should work after all
23:03:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
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23:03:59  <PublicServer> <mfb> do we use MS anywhere?
23:04:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> not yat
23:04:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> yet
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23:04:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am waiting for the chain which needs to accept more FS
23:04:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> so we would send the MS there
23:04:37  <Dom_> !password
23:04:37  <PublicServer> Dom_: rodent
23:04:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> so there would be more (food/stuff) trains there -> more supplies
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23:04:55  <PublicServer> <Dom> hiii
23:04:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
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23:05:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> hiy
23:05:06  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
23:05:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
23:05:39  <PublicServer> <Dom> if i bould something plese check it twice :)
23:05:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm
23:05:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> the question is if we want to actually improve the throughput for petrol/chemicals
23:05:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> :p
23:06:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> 7.5k FS and 500 ES is kinda enough :D
23:06:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> just drop it, without picking more FS?
23:06:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> also an option but would make a mess
23:06:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> 500 ES is not much
23:06:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> if we have enough  FS in general then just lets pick it
23:06:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> metal+brickworks have ~1k
23:06:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah that isnt
23:06:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> FS is in large amounts everywher
23:06:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> so fuck that
23:07:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ES is t he question
23:07:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> we could make a few chemical trains to deliver ES
23:07:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> but I guess there isnt as much ES in general
23:07:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> so... not much to do about that , boost cargoes which produce ES :)
23:08:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> metal/refineries :)
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23:18:34  <Dom_> !password
23:18:34  <PublicServer> Dom_: starry
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23:21:29  <PublicServer> <Dom> V
23:21:37  <PublicServer> <Dom> Beer factory line missing
23:21:51  <PublicServer> <Dom> at the exit point sign !here
23:22:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> done
23:22:44  <PublicServer> <Dom> ok
23:23:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> better
23:24:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> before I managed to react :p thanks
23:25:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> do we have insufficient amount of supplies anywhere?
23:25:47  <PublicServer> <mfb> I don't see anything
23:25:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> looks like enough everywher to me
23:25:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
23:26:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh
23:26:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> ES @ refinery
23:28:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> not much :)
23:28:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is to be expected I think
23:28:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> farms have lower productions than oil wells in general
23:29:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> good night
23:29:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> gn
23:29:57  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn
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23:30:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> k :D
23:30:50  <V453000> !auto
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23:48:33  <Dom_> n8
23:48:41  <V453000> gn

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