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#openttdcoop 15:07:34 *** Max| has joined #openttdcoop 15:18:58 *** G-Tus has joined #openttdcoop 15:20:45 <G-Tus> !players 15:20:47 <PublicServer> G-Tus: There are currently no clients connected to the server 15:21:42 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 15:54:13 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 15:54:13 *** Webster sets mode: +o dwarf 16:00:06 <G-Tus> !password 16:00:06 <PublicServer> G-Tus: gawked 16:00:17 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:00:18 <PublicServer> *** G-Tus joined the game 16:24:33 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop 16:42:46 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:42:46 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:42:46 <PublicServer> <uliko> Evening 16:42:46 <PublicServer> *** uliko joined the game 16:42:48 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> hey 17:27:42 <PublicServer> *** G-Tus has left the game (general timeout) 17:27:42 <PublicServer> *** G-Tus has left the game (connection lost) 17:27:42 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:31:03 *** Dilandau has quit IRC 17:33:53 *** G-Tus has quit IRC 17:38:08 *** Gregor-PLNL has joined #openttdcoop 17:52:45 *** Progman has quit IRC 18:14:15 <dwarf> !playercount 18:14:15 <PublicServer> dwarf: Number of players: 3 (0 spectators) 18:14:20 <dwarf> !password 18:14:20 <PublicServer> dwarf: sodomy 18:14:26 <dwarf> :D 18:14:55 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:14:55 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:14:58 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 18:15:10 <PublicServer> <uliko> Hello 18:15:31 *** Gregor-PLNL has quit IRC 18:33:06 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 18:33:06 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:33:20 <PublicServer> *** uliko has left the game (leaving) 18:36:13 *** G-Tus has joined #openttdcoop 18:37:13 <G-Tus> !playhers 18:37:15 <G-Tus> !players 18:37:18 <PublicServer> G-Tus: There are currently no clients connected to the server 18:38:03 <G-Tus> !password 18:38:03 <PublicServer> G-Tus: poised 18:38:20 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:38:20 <PublicServer> *** G-Tus joined the game 18:55:17 *** Gregor-PLNL has joined #openttdcoop 19:29:35 <molv> !password 19:29:35 <PublicServer> molv: poised 19:30:04 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:30:04 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:30:04 <PublicServer> *** molv joined the game 19:30:09 <PublicServer> <molv> howdy 19:34:00 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> hey 19:52:38 <dwarf> !password 19:52:39 <PublicServer> dwarf: census 19:53:09 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 19:53:21 <PublicServer> <molv> hi 19:53:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> hel0 19:53:28 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:53:32 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> hey 20:06:04 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 20:06:50 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has joined spectators 20:07:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> yayy 20:07:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> properly wet naow 20:07:19 <PublicServer> <dwarf> ? 20:07:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> flooded train 20:07:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> someone screwed up 20:07:38 <PublicServer> <dwarf> :D 20:07:41 <PublicServer> <dwarf> where? 20:07:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> Fort Dratburg: 20:08:22 <PublicServer> <dwarf> ah :D 20:08:38 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> looks like it was the town itself.... 20:12:25 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:14:20 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:14:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> I wonder if that is possible 20:14:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> ah right 20:15:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> there was missing canal and it deleted a building or something 20:15:19 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> yep town rebuild a building 20:20:07 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> ..... 20:20:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> you built those signals? 20:20:29 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> no Im working on my refit network 20:20:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> entrance and exit of the refit station makes no sense at all 20:20:57 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> oh whoops 20:21:03 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> forgot to cycle them 20:21:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> what 20:21:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> PBS on default? :d 20:21:16 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> yes 20:22:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> why ? :d 20:22:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> esp-2way PBS which is like never used 20:22:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> almost 20:23:51 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> PBS on entrance is required, waiting bays are too short for block signals 20:24:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but not 2way 20:27:03 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> so extra 2 way PBS signals at a terminus station are overkill? 20:27:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> they dont do anything 20:27:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> only if the platform can be accessed from the other end, then they make sense 20:27:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> otherwise not 20:30:04 <dwarf> they have the tiny advantage of letting the train move out of the platform to the signal even if the exit is not free 20:31:36 *** Darigaaz has joined #openttdcoop 20:32:34 <V453000> yes, if there is a big gap between the signal and the station, but not building the signals already gives you faster response by having the one tile gone 20:34:06 <Darigaaz> !password 20:34:06 <PublicServer> Darigaaz: homier 20:34:08 <dwarf> but you may want that for braking space 20:34:28 <PublicServer> *** Dari joined the game 20:35:14 <dwarf> anyways, I agree with the conclusion, that they are usually not necessary for terminus stations 20:39:42 <Darigaaz> @quickstart 20:39:42 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 20:39:50 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 20:40:47 <molv> with a pbs you can penalty a particular platform to have trains move to the outside of your terminus station 20:41:41 <V453000> not like that achieves much 20:42:16 <molv> i have some tight stations where particular exits are tight corners 20:42:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> right, but they can be penalized in different ways like with a road crossing 20:42:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> therefore discussing 2way PBS there is irrelevant 20:43:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is about the penalty and the way how the station works not about PBS 20:48:19 *** Gregor-PLNL has quit IRC 20:54:24 <PublicServer> *** Dari has joined spectators 20:54:32 <PublicServer> *** Dari has joined company #1 21:05:40 <PublicServer> *** Dari has left the game (leaving) 21:10:26 <Darigaaz> !password 21:10:26 <PublicServer> Darigaaz: burlap 21:10:38 <PublicServer> *** Dari joined the game 21:11:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello :) 21:11:16 <Darigaaz> hi 21:11:24 <Darigaaz> is this game done? 21:11:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think so 21:11:42 <Darigaaz> i cant see any plan and looks like everything is in place 21:11:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> this is a bit special game, people just have fun 21:11:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> just expand any part you like 21:12:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> we are celebrating NUTS birthday :) 21:12:19 <Darigaaz> well, im scared to mess with somebodies network 21:12:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont worry about it too much 21:12:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> start with some small stations, or just create your own little network 21:12:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> for example the monorail in the top left of the map is abandoned 21:14:15 <Darigaaz> looks like it goes through half of the map 21:15:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> see train 119 for example 21:15:42 <Darigaaz> oh. that one 21:16:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to play with it in any way you want :) 21:16:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> tehre are some industries to connect 21:17:01 <Darigaaz> ther is oil and oil plant nearby. looks like im going to do smthing w it 21:17:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:18:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> the game chat is transmitted to IRC btw so just dont worry and feel free to talk in game 21:18:51 <PublicServer> <Dari> ok 21:19:13 <PublicServer> <Dari> dual monitor keeps it simple tho 21:20:19 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> hmmm 21:20:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> :> 21:20:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> testing ultimate chameleon recolour to black and white? 21:20:46 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> yep 21:20:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> works nice eh 21:22:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> connect it to the network 21:22:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> not just a direct conection 21:22:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> use the existing rails :) 21:23:08 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> but this is easy 21:23:14 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> :p 21:23:15 <Darigaaz> still planing) 21:23:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> was talking to Dari 21:23:18 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> oh 21:23:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> :P 21:25:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> preferably use train length 2 there btw :p just noting when I see the station 21:25:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> these trains are good with 2 tiles 21:25:41 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> (better with 3 tiles) 21:25:44 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> :p 21:26:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> no :) 21:26:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> best with 2 tiles :P 21:26:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> actually solid with TL1, and doable with TL0.5 :D 21:26:55 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> I prefer the higher capacity of the 3 tile ones 21:27:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats nice but some other train classes are probably stronger at TL2 21:27:19 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> 2 tile gives them the same capacity as a dualheaded 3 tile medium maglev, which is faster, although longer curves 21:27:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> TL3 I mean 21:27:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> but shorter loading time 21:27:34 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> yep 21:27:52 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> loading time is the only real downside of Chami for me 21:28:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> and better acceleration I think 21:28:35 *** chester_ has quit IRC 21:28:42 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> dunno how much the TE affects... 21:28:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> a lot 21:28:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> TE is probably even more important than power 21:29:36 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> but maglevs dont have TE 21:29:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> I didnt talk about maglevs :d 21:29:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> monorail medium 21:30:15 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> monorail medium is weird... 21:30:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? :d 21:30:47 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> losing TE when making them longer 21:31:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> which is obviously good when using them short 21:31:23 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> but what is their advantage when they are short? 21:31:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> acceleration 21:32:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> though chameleons are probably too good in that as well 21:32:34 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> by default they have less TE than Chami and lower power 21:32:40 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> lower capacity 21:32:50 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> only 5 loading stages instead of 7 21:33:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah the acceleration of chameleons shouldnt be as high 21:33:26 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> monorail fast on the other hand are quite epic 21:33:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> only when long 21:33:37 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> too bad nobody has used them yet :p 21:38:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm 21:39:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think I will reduce chameleon speed and tractive effort 21:40:49 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> I think the speed is fine... 21:41:00 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> increasing their length kills their speed anyway 21:41:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, I am trying to reduce teh difference in length 21:41:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> but reduce speed in general 21:54:43 *** condac_ has quit IRC 21:59:24 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 22:01:03 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 22:01:18 <PublicServer> <Dari> how am i ended like building 4way LR hub =\ 22:01:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :D 22:01:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> you made it a bit too complicated for yourself, oil only needed the path to the refinery 22:02:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> you didnt need the other choices 22:02:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> s/choices/directions 22:02:12 <Darigaaz> i know, but still 22:02:27 <PublicServer> <Dari> i want it "complete" 22:02:42 <PublicServer> <Dari> hate undone things 22:02:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> complete isnt always beneficial :) 22:03:10 <PublicServer> <Dari> are not we suppose getting fun? =) 22:03:22 <PublicServer> <Dari> make smthing in half aint fun 22:03:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> it isnt half if it does everything it needs to do 22:08:41 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 22:09:39 <PublicServer> *** molv has joined spectators 22:12:59 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 22:13:20 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 22:13:20 *** Webster sets mode: +o KenjiE20 22:22:33 *** tycoondemon2 has joined #openttdcoop 22:25:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> alright that should do it :) 22:25:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> gnight 22:25:38 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> night 22:25:38 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:26:18 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 22:35:13 *** Tray has quit IRC 22:42:49 *** Rupe has joined #openttdcoop 22:43:28 <Rupe> !password 22:43:28 <PublicServer> 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