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:) 08:30:44 <PublicServer> <Jam35> you are free to build then? 08:30:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much 08:31:04 <PublicServer> <Jam35> ok... :D 08:56:40 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 08:57:36 *** bug_sniper_ has quit IRC 08:59:35 *** Gregor-PLNL1 has joined #openttdcoop 09:06:47 *** Gregor-PLNL has quit IRC 09:07:53 *** Maraxus_ has joined #openttdcoop 09:13:32 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 09:13:34 *** Maraxus_ is now known as Maraxus 09:17:31 <PublicServer> <Jam35> oh why isn't there diagonal stations on bridges :( 09:17:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 09:22:00 *** uliko has joined #openttdcoop 09:22:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o uliko 09:27:32 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 09:41:22 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop 09:48:53 *** Anson has quit IRC 09:49:14 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop 09:50:37 <Dom_> !password 09:50:37 <PublicServer> Dom_: graved 09:50:47 <PublicServer> *** Dom joined the game 09:50:50 <PublicServer> <Dom> hey hey hey 09:50:56 <PublicServer> <Jam35> hihi 09:51:30 <PublicServer> <Jam35> loads to do :) 09:51:32 <PublicServer> <Dom> ? 09:51:54 <PublicServer> <Jam35> not much network yet 09:51:56 <PublicServer> <Dom> yep 09:52:02 <PublicServer> <Dom> yeah i wanna make a town somewhere 09:52:08 <PublicServer> <Dom> just looking for the right spot 10:04:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> both of you come see stable immediately :D 10:04:55 <a_sad_dude> !dl lin64 10:04:55 <PublicServer> a_sad_dude: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r25627/openttd-trunk-r25627-linux-generic-amd64.tar.xz 10:23:42 <PublicServer> <Jam35> if a town is separated by water with no road links will it still grow both sides? 10:23:56 <PublicServer> <Dom> idk 10:24:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> town grows along roads where it can 10:24:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> regardless 10:24:23 <PublicServer> <Jam35> ok... we'll soon see 10:45:30 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 10:45:53 <PublicServer> <Jam35> hello 10:46:07 <Maraxus> hi 10:56:06 <a_sad_dude> !password 10:56:06 <PublicServer> a_sad_dude: nieces 11:04:16 <a_sad_dude> what are the PGS: ... grfs and where do I get those? 11:04:42 <a_sad_dude> ah 11:04:50 <a_sad_dude> nvm, missed the link. 11:09:26 <a_sad_dude> !password 11:09:26 <PublicServer> a_sad_dude: teller 11:09:36 <PublicServer> *** a sad dude joined the game 11:10:02 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 11:25:20 <PublicServer> <Dom> which ml station needs more pax? 11:25:26 <PublicServer> <Dom> i have 38k waiting :( 11:25:44 <PublicServer> <Jam35> SEC needs trains 11:27:14 <PublicServer> <Dom> on their way 11:27:26 *** Gregor-PLNL1 has quit IRC 11:27:28 <PublicServer> <Jam35> nice 1 11:29:44 <PublicServer> <Jam35> nobody else building? :( 11:29:58 <PublicServer> <Dom> not atm 11:30:28 <PublicServer> <Jam35> someone needs to sort pm's holy mess :p 11:30:30 <PublicServer> <Jam35> TL3 11:30:40 <PublicServer> <Dom> ? 11:30:51 <PublicServer> <Jam35> see sign holy mess /pm 11:31:19 <PublicServer> <Dom> disconnect it? 11:31:33 <PublicServer> <Dom> or 11:31:33 <PublicServer> <Dom> nah 11:31:39 <PublicServer> <Dom> ill do the local stuff :) 11:31:46 <PublicServer> <Jam35> needs fixing imo 11:31:48 <PublicServer> <Jam35> :) 11:33:46 <PublicServer> <Jam35> also EWT any takers? 11:33:56 <PublicServer> <Dom> yes CTL 11:33:58 <PublicServer> <Jam35> half done... needs some love 11:36:46 <PublicServer> <Jam35> I can do something @ Nuuanang also 11:37:12 <PublicServer> <Dom> k 11:44:36 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> hai. nub here. any limitations on what I can do if I don't touch the ML? 11:45:55 <PublicServer> <Jam35> not really just find a town and build it nice 11:46:09 <PublicServer> <Jam35> low tf if poss please :) 11:46:20 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> and that 11:46:39 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> translate CL3 and TF if possible ) 11:46:49 <PublicServer> <Jam35> curve length 3 11:46:52 <PublicServer> <Jam35> terraforming 11:46:55 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ah 11:47:07 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> thanks 11:47:13 <PublicServer> *** a sad dude has joined company #1 11:52:13 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 11:53:47 <PublicServer> <phatmatt> lol, the "museum of modern arts" building tile (ie. in Elsinore) 11:54:33 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> :D 11:58:11 <PublicServer> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 11:58:11 <PublicServer> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 12:01:32 <Dom_> !password 12:01:32 <PublicServer> Dom_: allure 12:01:44 <PublicServer> *** Dom joined the game 12:13:13 <PublicServer> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 12:13:13 <PublicServer> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 12:15:44 <Dom_> !password 12:15:44 <PublicServer> Dom_: allure 12:15:53 <PublicServer> <Jam35> you know the idea is to transfer all pax to ML right? 12:15:55 <PublicServer> *** Dom joined the game 12:16:39 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> me? 12:16:49 <PublicServer> <Jam35> not sure i guess :) 12:16:59 <PublicServer> <Jam35> so you should have a ML station 12:17:11 <PublicServer> <Jam35> and smaller local traffic transferring 12:17:19 <PublicServer> <Jam35> look around you will see 12:18:09 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> mmkay 12:18:27 <PublicServer> <Jam35> keep the boat running but eventually need it to transfer somewhere :) 12:19:14 <PublicServer> <Jam35> so you could have ML station here 12:19:32 <PublicServer> <Jam35> smaller transfers next to it 12:19:51 <PublicServer> <Jam35> or something :) 12:19:57 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ok ok 12:20:00 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> i'll figure it out. 12:20:02 <PublicServer> <Jam35> cool :) 12:20:12 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> just can't decide what to do with this hill 12:20:23 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> looks too nice to just build houses over. 12:20:53 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> maybe i want to place the station there. but then no idea how to turn around. so need to think. : 12:21:07 <PublicServer> <Jam35> terminus is fine 12:21:17 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> but i don't wanna :( 12:21:47 <PublicServer> <Jam35> don't see another way there really 12:21:50 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> how low tf exactly? ) 12:21:57 <PublicServer> <Jam35> also larger footprint so less houses 12:22:07 <PublicServer> <Jam35> flatten it if you wish 12:22:21 <PublicServer> <Jam35> the top bit is ok 12:25:08 <PublicServer> <Dom> :D 12:25:14 <PublicServer> <phatmatt> that *still* isn't fixed? 12:25:17 <PublicServer> <Jam35> hm... :) 12:25:36 <PublicServer> <Jam35> fixed? it's just random 12:25:50 <PublicServer> <phatmatt> i mean, everyone getting the message, instead of the initiator 12:26:06 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> what? 12:26:13 <PublicServer> <Jam35> same company 12:26:20 <PublicServer> <phatmatt> i guess 12:56:11 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> waait... you can build a tram/road tunnel right? 12:56:21 <PublicServer> <Jam35> of course :) 12:57:36 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 12:57:42 <PublicServer> <Jam35> back soon 13:17:15 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> so, then I just make trains to random destinations? 13:17:29 <PublicServer> <Dom> CTL needs trains 13:17:32 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ok 13:17:34 <PublicServer> <Dom> 177k waiting XD 13:17:44 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> looks like GYM needs them more ) 13:17:46 <PublicServer> <Dom> oh and group them 13:17:53 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ofc 13:18:31 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> is there any easy way to get them to run evenly? 13:18:46 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> or should I just not bother about it :D 13:36:51 <PublicServer> <Jam35> don't think you have the orders quite right @ St Kenzie Dom?: after order 7 jump back to 1? 13:37:22 <PublicServer> <Dom> hm? 13:37:49 <PublicServer> <Jam35> after order 7 they just go via full. full or not 13:38:17 <PublicServer> <Dom> like this#ß 13:38:19 <PublicServer> <Dom> ? 13:38:37 <PublicServer> <Jam35> order 10 should be 8? 13:38:48 <PublicServer> <Dom> why? 13:39:06 <PublicServer> <Jam35> after order 7 it goes to 8? 13:39:16 <PublicServer> <Jam35> so trains just go via full 13:39:27 <PublicServer> <Jam35> it needs to loop around 13:39:34 <PublicServer> <Jam35> the conditions break the loop 13:39:36 <PublicServer> <Dom> ty 13:39:38 <PublicServer> <Dom> :) 13:39:50 <PublicServer> <Jam35> no probs :) 13:40:24 <PublicServer> <Dom> why dont the steamers steam? 13:40:54 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ...did you know that GYM doesn't accept anything? 13:41:01 <PublicServer> <Jam35> where are they? 13:41:13 <PublicServer> <Dom> cartmanland 13:41:15 <PublicServer> <Dom> boats 13:41:25 <PublicServer> <Jam35> oh right :) 13:41:29 <PublicServer> <Jam35> no idea 13:42:00 <PublicServer> <Jam35> GYM: just walk it temp style 13:42:14 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 has joined company #1 13:42:26 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> maybe we should relocate HQ there ) 13:42:41 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (leaving) 13:43:17 <PublicServer> <Jam35> there we go :) 13:44:07 <PublicServer> <Jam35> I have a sick idea for the HQ but not sure it would be acceptable :) 13:44:19 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> o_O 13:44:33 <PublicServer> <Dom> dependson the tf :D 13:44:44 <PublicServer> <Jam35> hq doesn't produce cargo right? 13:44:54 <PublicServer> <Dom> no 13:44:57 <PublicServer> <Jam35> well just use as a dropoff for pax 13:45:04 <PublicServer> <Jam35> ...to their doom :D 13:45:06 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> yes 13:45:12 <PublicServer> <Dom> ok 13:45:16 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> that's what i suggested 13:45:22 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> except doom! 13:45:29 <PublicServer> <Jam35> not like this ;) 13:45:49 <PublicServer> <Jam35> GYM is sorted 13:45:56 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> (: 13:46:02 <PublicServer> <Jam35> I'm talking about human testing laboratory 13:46:15 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> is that an industry? 13:46:21 <PublicServer> <Jam35> it is now :D 13:47:15 <PublicServer> <Jam35> Scenic it is then :) 13:48:13 <PublicServer> <Jam35> no somewhere with no town 14:08:27 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> omg 14:09:39 <PublicServer> <Dom> amm a sad dude why dont you just fund a town? 14:10:07 <PublicServer> <Jam35> that wouldn;t be so much fun 14:10:49 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ? 14:20:03 <PublicServer> <Dom> CTL 299k pax waiting :D 14:20:37 <PublicServer> <Jam35> :D 14:20:39 <PublicServer> <Jam35> shite 14:24:21 *** roboboy has quit IRC 14:30:46 <PublicServer> *** a sad dude has joined spectators 14:36:08 <PublicServer> *** a sad dude has left the game (leaving) 14:38:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D how 14:38:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 14:38:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> 350 now 14:38:26 <PublicServer> <Jam35> shite again 14:38:28 <PublicServer> <Jam35> noooo 14:45:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> guys TL2 slugs are awesome 14:45:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> we need to have a game with them sometime in the future :D 14:54:01 *** nicfer has joined #openttdcoop 15:00:46 <PublicServer> <Dom> CTL 400k pax waiting 15:06:06 <nicfer> !paxword 15:06:09 <nicfer> !password 15:06:09 <PublicServer> nicfer: fizzed 15:06:25 <PublicServer> *** nicfer joined the game 15:06:58 <PublicServer> *** nicfer has joined company #1 15:07:50 <PublicServer> <nicfer> those three bridges @ Coolabah aren't used ATM 15:09:01 <PublicServer> <nicfer> trains that don't go there choose the detour @ Pineview instead 15:11:59 <PublicServer> <nicfer> can I 'double here?' 15:15:22 <PublicServer> <nicfer> is everybody AFK? 15:15:28 <PublicServer> <Dom> nah 15:29:40 <PublicServer> <Jam35> nicfer you were building EWT? 15:29:52 <PublicServer> <nicfer> yea 15:30:26 <PublicServer> <Jam35> planning to continue? 15:30:34 <PublicServer> <nicfer> yeah, I am now 15:30:38 <PublicServer> <Jam35> k :) 15:31:33 *** Progman has quit IRC 15:32:25 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 15:37:13 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 15:39:05 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 15:39:38 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 15:42:13 <PublicServer> <Dom> nicfer are you pulling the ll on? 15:42:21 <PublicServer> <nicfer> which? 15:42:28 <PublicServer> <Dom> nah doesnt matter :) 15:44:40 *** bug_sniper has joined #openttdcoop 15:57:36 <PublicServer> <nicfer> who started road rebuild @ Monhead? 15:57:47 <PublicServer> <Dom> me :( 15:57:57 <PublicServer> <Dom> accidental click 15:58:27 <PublicServer> <Jam35> wrong fund :P 15:58:29 <PublicServer> <nicfer> tried to fund new buildings, aimed wrongly 15:58:36 <PublicServer> <Dom> yep 15:58:46 <PublicServer> <nicfer> happens to me also 16:01:01 <PublicServer> <nicfer> any other ML requiring doubling? 16:14:17 <PublicServer> *** nicfer has left the game (leaving) 16:14:26 <PublicServer> <Dom> gtgo 16:14:28 <PublicServer> <Dom> bb 16:14:54 <PublicServer> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 16:14:54 <PublicServer> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 16:14:54 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:43:06 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 17:03:10 *** bug_sniper has quit IRC 17:20:41 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 17:21:23 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop 17:30:31 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 17:42:11 *** bug_sniper has joined #openttdcoop 17:52:15 *** bug_sniper_ has joined #openttdcoop 17:57:44 *** bug_sniper has quit IRC 18:00:46 *** bug_sniper_ has quit IRC 18:17:23 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 has joined company #1 18:17:48 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:17:49 <PublicServer> *** a sad dude joined the game 18:18:00 <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi ag 18:18:46 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> how's it going? 18:18:52 <PublicServer> <Jam35> ok 18:18:55 <PublicServer> <Jam35> can u join? 18:19:05 <PublicServer> *** a sad dude has joined company #1 18:19:05 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:19:13 <PublicServer> <Jam35> yay 18:19:15 <PublicServer> <Jam35> :) 18:19:23 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> but i'm not sure I'll stay : 18:19:45 <PublicServer> <Jam35> 10 mins? :) 18:19:56 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ok 18:36:18 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 18:39:20 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> 58k pax at Gorman Hill Docks : 18:40:08 <PublicServer> <Jam35> ty that should have been Gorman hill north 18:40:22 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> and tons of stations in the middle of nowhere 18:40:32 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> :( 18:40:59 *** Gregor-PLNL has joined #openttdcoop 18:41:22 <PublicServer> <Jam35> not sure what you mean 18:42:09 <PublicServer> <Jam35> they are but need building up 18:42:11 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ok not tons 18:42:30 <PublicServer> <Jam35> build away :) 18:42:33 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> but CTL and MHD don't accept anything 18:42:39 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> is this intended? 18:43:13 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> but ok it is fixable yes. 18:44:59 <PublicServer> <Jam35> they do now :) 18:45:31 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> what does "temp" mean? :) 18:45:38 <PublicServer> <Jam35> temporary 18:47:07 <PublicServer> <Jam35> in this case until the town has grown enough for them not to be needed 18:56:53 *** Nigil has joined #openttdcoop 18:57:02 <Nigil> !password 18:57:02 <PublicServer> Nigil: pierce 18:57:41 <PublicServer> *** Nigil joined the game 18:58:01 <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi 18:58:11 <PublicServer> <Nigil> hi 19:01:07 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 19:01:09 <PublicServer> <Jam35> bbl 19:01:17 <PublicServer> <Nigil> kk 19:02:00 <Jam35> build a town Nigil :) 19:02:19 <PublicServer> <Nigil> w 19:02:22 <PublicServer> <Nigil> will do 19:05:52 *** Gregor-PLNL has quit IRC 19:07:08 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 19:07:32 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 19:09:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 19:09:34 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> hi 19:09:37 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 19:09:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 19:27:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm, I need a town name with T...F... 19:28:18 <PublicServer> <Jam35> truffles 19:29:08 <PublicServer> <Jam35> triffids 19:31:22 <mfb-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True,_Wisconsin lol 19:31:23 <Webster> Title: True, Wisconsin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 19:31:24 *** ODM has quit IRC 19:31:31 <mfb-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False,_Wisconsin ? 19:34:23 <mfb-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thetford,_Vermont hmm 19:34:24 <Webster> Title: Thetford, Vermont - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 19:35:27 <PublicServer> <Jam35> Aussie town names: Toadfish fits :) 19:35:42 <mfb-> :D 19:36:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, and I have to add a "new" in front of the name 19:36:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> as the station is NTF 19:36:27 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> why not "West" ? 19:36:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> west does not start with N, T or F 19:37:16 <PublicServer> <Jam35> north toadfish 19:37:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah :D 19:37:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm would have been an idea 19:37:40 <PublicServer> <Jam35> too late :) 19:37:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> it is at the southern border of the map, but who cares 19:38:18 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 has joined company #1 19:38:23 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> okay 19:48:09 <PublicServer> <Jam35> ah, Teapot Valley: should be TL5 19:48:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 19:54:07 *** Gregor-PLNL has joined #openttdcoop 19:54:21 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 20:02:56 <PublicServer> *** Nigil has left the game (leaving) 20:08:26 *** Anson has quit IRC 20:08:45 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop 20:09:33 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 20:19:40 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 20:20:12 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ok I'm not sure I understand path signals. 20:20:19 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> gonna go rtfm a bit. 20:20:31 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 20:20:42 <PublicServer> <Jam35> :) 20:21:29 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> or alternatively... 20:21:51 <PublicServer> <Jam35> what do you need to know? 20:21:58 <PublicServer> <Jam35> mfb will tell you :p 20:23:05 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> maybe some other time ) 20:23:58 <mfb-> ^^ 20:27:39 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 20:29:21 *** bug_sniper has joined #openttdcoop 20:29:30 <PublicServer> <Jam35> I'm done for tonight cya 20:29:36 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 20:29:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> bye 20:38:55 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 20:48:27 <PublicServer> <a sad dude> sorry, I'm off too 20:48:34 <PublicServer> *** a sad dude has joined spectators 20:48:34 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:48:58 <PublicServer> *** a sad dude has left the game (leaving) 20:54:11 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:54:23 <Dom_> !password 20:54:23 <PublicServer> Dom_: awning 20:54:35 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:54:35 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:54:35 <PublicServer> *** Dom joined the game 20:54:39 <PublicServer> <Dom> hello 20:57:54 <mfb-> hi 20:59:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm, something is wrong at NTF 20:59:40 *** Gregor-PLNL1 has joined #openttdcoop 20:59:42 <PublicServer> <Dom> not accepting pax 20:59:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> right, fixed 21:04:39 *** Gregor-PLNL has quit IRC 21:08:48 *** uliko has quit IRC 21:23:53 <V453000> hio :) 21:23:56 <PublicServer> <Dom> yo 21:23:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 21:24:09 <V453000> !password 21:24:09 <PublicServer> V453000: joyful 21:24:24 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:25:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> soo what up :) 21:25:15 <PublicServer> <Dom> nothign just building towns 21:25:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> havent seen mfb in a while :P 21:25:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> tile-by-tile construction at NTF 21:25:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> ntf or wtf 21:25:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> 21:26:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 21:26:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw whoever made the names, point of [] signs is to have them at the front of the station sign 21:26:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> they dont help much at the end 21:26:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> ;) 21:29:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb have you seen the blog btw :> 21:29:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> kinda finalized the ting 21:29:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> PZ? sure 21:29:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2013 aye 21:29:39 <PublicServer> <Dom> BDV needs trains :) 21:29:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> actually there was some weird change in openttd 21:29:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> dummies need waypoints now 21:29:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> add them? ;) 21:29:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> otherwise [far end] is actually not end 21:29:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> :/ 21:30:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> is actuallt FOUR ends :D 21:30:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> real wtf 21:30:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> (the train, I mean) 21:30:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf 21:30:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> total wtf 21:30:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> I had to fix all dummies in the game 21:30:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> [far end] can be applied FOUR fucking times 21:30:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> the train leaves station after far end and goes to far end again 21:30:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> why, dont ask me 21:31:01 <mfb-> "full load (far end)"*4 orders? 21:31:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> all the answer I got was "becuase far end looked ugly so we made it 4px from the end" 21:31:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 21:31:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> basically 21:31:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> and 3 px from the end, too? 21:31:27 *** Gregor-PLNL1 has quit IRC 21:31:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk 21:31:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> its just fucking unreliable 21:31:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> so waypoints 21:31:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> all of the srnw stations suddenly had ~25% throughput ... due to quadruply slowed dummy speed 21:32:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> never patch running madness 21:32:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> is retarded but fortunately simple reliable solutions with waypoints 21:32:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much 21:32:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> but as the main point of the pzg13^2 was to make it run in latest nightly ... :P 21:32:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> by the way, do you have an idea how to make !this connection less ugly? 21:32:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> no TF 21:33:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah tf the shit out of it ? :P 21:33:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> we will get more nighlies... 21:33:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> well sure but it doesnt mean they will include such retarded changes anytime soon :P 21:33:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> .... :D 21:33:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean the road connection? :) 21:34:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> without tf hardly :) more or less 21:34:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 21:34:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> okay 21:34:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> probably not 21:34:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> or 21:34:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> dno 21:34:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> I like it 21:35:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> k :D all that matters 21:35:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> BTW new NUTS has RAINBOW fucking SLUGS :> 21:35:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 21:36:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont really want to spend time updating server newgrfs so perhaps overnight / in the morning :) 21:37:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> did the town growth algorithm changed somehow? 21:37:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> but 1/100 probability to be a nyan cat? :P priceless 21:37:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> no idea 21:37:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> or maybe it is just a rounding issue 21:37:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is completely possible that Mark had some wtf gamescript on 21:37:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> though I doubt that 21:37:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah now it changed 21:38:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> WTF 21:38:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> the town terraformed a house at water level 21:38:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> XD 21:38:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> I see it 21:38:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> 104x485 21:39:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 21:39:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> I wonder if you could exploit town TF :D 21:39:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> was water there? 21:39:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess there was eh 21:40:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats pretty evil considering I make stable basecosts x64k water terraform :P 21:40:34 <mfb-> no 21:40:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> sdfg 21:40:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> asdf 21:40:46 <mfb-> both sides were 1<->0 height 21:40:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> k 21:40:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> similar to !this 21:41:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> just 2 layers lower 21:41:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> lol road construction 21:41:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> WTF who set road rebuilding Dom :D 21:41:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> XDDDDD 21:41:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> fucking christ 21:41:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark and his default settings 21:41:40 <PublicServer> <Dom> there are no vehicles in that city 21:41:42 <PublicServer> <Dom> ... 21:41:45 <PublicServer> <Dom> :D 21:41:51 <PublicServer> <Dom> and i need new roads 21:41:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> cant see !this 21:42:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( 21:42:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> /sad 21:42:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> how do new roads differ from old shit? :P) 21:42:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> I removed the sign 21:42:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> /sad . 21:42:25 <PublicServer> <Dom> well 21:42:27 <PublicServer> <Dom> they are new 21:42:34 <PublicServer> <Dom> and they cost money 21:42:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt mean they differ :P 21:42:47 <PublicServer> <Dom> which is good for economy :D 21:42:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> who cares about economy :p 21:43:05 <PublicServer> <Dom> :D 21:43:19 <PublicServer> <Dom> and it looks fun :D 21:43:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> I ordered a new keyboard from usa today which is totally not economical :> 21:43:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> 140% nerd from now 21:43:25 <PublicServer> <Dom> :D 21:43:31 <PublicServer> <Dom> link? 21:43:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> wasdkeyboards.com 21:43:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can customize fucking ANYTHING on it 21:44:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> so if you realize I work as a graphics nerd, you understand that customizing shit is the way to catch my attention :D 21:44:31 <Dom_> is it going to be a otto keyboard? 21:44:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> otto? 21:44:49 <V453000> is that austrian word for mechanical? 21:45:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> guess not huh :) 21:45:18 <Dom_> i meant *ottd 21:45:19 <Dom_> xD 21:45:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> no I dont really have too much openttd related in it 21:45:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> except slugs, mayhem, and stuff 21:45:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> I cant really show you how will it look atm as it is in 2 files and I cant quite combine them too easily 21:46:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> so just have to wait :( sad point is that it can get stuck on czech customs office for who knows how long 21:46:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> [fucking long] 21:46:54 <Dom_> lol 21:47:37 <Dom_> why not send it first to germany to someone and then send it to the czech republik 21:47:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> how would that help 21:48:07 <Dom_> well 21:48:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> only gain you cand get is to have an american who sends it to you as a gift so you dont have to pay taxes for it 21:48:19 <Dom_> true that 21:48:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> but usa - ger - cze isnt really helpfulo alone 21:48:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> though shipping is ass :( 21:49:00 <Dom_> ouch 21:49:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> plus keyboard itself plus tax, I dont even want to count it in total 21:49:41 <Dom_> why then order it?? 21:49:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> but totall wurf it :> 21:50:08 <phatmatt> V453000: i assume you've seen art lebedev's keyboards (the one that actually exists) 21:50:22 <V453000> not quite phatmatt 21:50:30 <Dom_> ? 21:50:36 <phatmatt> http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/maximus/ 21:50:37 <Webster> Title: Optimus Maximus keyboard (at www.artlebedev.com) 21:50:42 <phatmatt> each key is a little LCD 21:50:57 <V453000> Dom_: I spend a lot of time (including work) at the computer and i type a lot of stuff ... peripherals like mouse/headphones/keyboard have high value for me 21:51:34 <V453000> phatmatt: mechanical keyboards rule :P 21:51:49 <phatmatt> indeed 21:52:16 <V453000> Dom_: and as the second thing, I am extremely prone to making up my own things (which I bet you can see from my openttd inputs) sooo customizing my own keyboard is pretty much priceless for me 21:52:28 * ^Spike^ switched to a razer blackwidow not too long ago 21:52:32 <^Spike^> still don't regret it :) 21:52:42 <^Spike^> only the blue cherry's make more noise then i thought :D 21:52:45 <V453000> I read a lot about razer blackwidow too 21:52:50 <V453000> getting blue mx cherry too 21:54:00 <V453000> I just got totally captured by the customizability of wasd keyboard :> 21:54:05 <V453000> -> NEED 21:54:52 <V453000> I am getting the blues with 0.2 mm O-rings so lets see :> 21:55:24 <V453000> but even then, I live alone and most of the time I have loud music from speakers on, or even headphones ... so I assume (for now) that the noise wont be a disaster 21:55:50 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:56:31 <V453000> I actually considered to get a mx brown daskeboard for work purposes to the office, but lets see about that later 21:56:51 <V453000> kinda dont believe browns are silent enough either :> 21:57:08 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 21:58:36 <planetmaker> V453000, what then did you modify the keymap to? :D 21:59:04 * planetmaker wants photo 21:59:07 <V453000> planetmaker: I didnt modify keymap, but the colours and text on the keycaps is modified kinda heavily :P 21:59:30 <V453000> but the actual logical keys are standard 104key keyboard 21:59:42 <planetmaker> what 'text'? 22:00:33 <V453000> the thing on the keycaps 22:00:35 <V453000> sec 22:01:30 <V453000> there are two files which combine the keyboard, one from their designer and one from custom .ai file ... I only included text and images but some people do some more weird shit ... http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/wasd-v1-custom-keyboard.html?kt=1&k=1&s=0479a503cab7be721413b766cb6a1ac9 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/wasd_v1_104_vaclav_benc.tif 22:01:31 <Webster> Title: Custom Mechanical Keyboard Designer by WASD Keyboards (at www.wasdkeyboards.com) 22:02:13 <V453000> photo could be after it arrives to my habitat :> 22:02:43 <planetmaker> :-) 22:03:15 <V453000> still, I spent unimaginable time making the concept and I am soooo much looking forward to it :) 22:03:35 <planetmaker> :D incredible 22:03:46 <V453000> amplified by the fact that my old keyboard broke and now I am at a totally terrible wtf rubber keyboard I got free with the motherboard :d 22:04:25 <planetmaker> :-) 22:04:38 <V453000> so yeah :) man has to make himself happy once upon a time you know :P 22:05:20 <V453000> the "reasonable" part is that this thing is 50M clicks per key ... so it can last for like idk, 15 years of normal usage 22:05:39 <V453000> Which is insane if you ask me 22:07:44 <Anson> can the keycap pictures be programmed at home or did you do that before ordering and they are now fixed? 22:09:05 <V453000> I did not program anything 22:09:13 <V453000> all that you customize is just the text written on it 22:09:25 <V453000> you really dont have a special function for e.g. "rage lock" 22:09:59 <V453000> it is a standard 104key keyboard without any software to it 22:11:06 <V453000> even with PS/2 for n-key rollover :D which I honestly dont understand who could reasonably use that 22:12:48 <Anson> then you can write some software to use the keyboard as screen with something like 700x300 pixels (48x14 per row and 48x6 rows)? :-) 22:13:02 <V453000> idk you probably cant I guess 22:13:16 <V453000> which by far does not mean I am going to do anything even closely similar to that :) 22:13:32 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop 22:13:40 <V453000> I just want a reliable solid keyboard, and the visual customization is just awesome 22:14:15 <V453000> not to mention that "awesome" is kinf of priceless :> 22:14:21 <V453000> kind 22:14:26 <V453000> god I hate this shit keyboard 22:14:30 <V453000> :> :P 22:14:53 <V453000> anyway, I will be going, got to wake up early tomorrow 22:14:53 <V453000> gn 22:15:09 <PublicServer> <Dom> n8 22:17:11 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:25:14 *** bug_sniper has quit IRC 22:27:33 *** bug_sniper has joined #openttdcoop 22:32:06 <phatmatt> well shit. i want one 22:32:19 <phatmatt> my bank account doesn't tho 22:32:58 <phatmatt> yikes, per custom image 22:47:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> now the town killed the water completely :D 22:48:17 <Anson> per image? then they probably will be fixed... would be nice to have them dynamic, to be changed depending on program you currently use etc 22:48:50 <phatmatt> Anson: are you talking about the art lebedev LCD keyboard? me and V are talking about the WASD one 22:49:03 <phatmatt> the LCD one is fully dynamic AFAIK 22:49:13 <Anson> ah 22:50:38 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 22:50:46 <Anson> i followed one link above and saw the maximus... without num block and without cursor?... for 1k$ 22:51:29 <phatmatt> yeah. it's fucking expensive. 22:51:52 <phatmatt> it's more of a cool-nice-to-look-at thing than actually useful 22:52:13 <phatmatt> it'll need several more revisions before it becomes more useful (and cheaper) imo 22:52:36 <Anson> but if you can change the pics at any time it will be like a monitor with 700x300 resolution :-) 22:53:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> there are cheaper touchpads for that... 22:53:39 <phatmatt> Anson: and 10hz refresh rate 22:53:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> and LEDs for parts of the area only, right? 22:54:21 <Anson> 48x48 per key 22:54:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> and not covering the whole area 22:54:57 <Anson> thus with gaps if used as "monitor" 22:55:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 22:55:52 <Anson> i won't spend that money, but am interested ib 22:56:02 <Anson> in such things 22:56:19 <phatmatt> really, you want to go the opposite way 22:56:25 <phatmatt> so have keys on a giant lcd screen 22:56:29 <phatmatt> instead of lcds in the keys 22:56:45 <phatmatt> of course, if you figure that out well, patent that shit and earn your yacht 22:57:39 <Anson> i once got my hands on a character set RAM instead of ROM on a computer many years ago... an apple ][+ 22:58:44 <Anson> and i wrote graphics driver for it to display pictures with the charset :-) 23:00:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> lol 23:00:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> train 245 works :D 23:00:58 <Anson> you filled the whole screen with all different chars and then changed the looks of the single chars so that all together showed a picture 23:01:39 <Anson> it was revolutionary at that time :-) 23:02:01 <mfb-> 1970 called, they want new graphics? 23:02:37 <Anson> 1982 or something like that 23:02:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> :) 23:04:00 <Anson> we also modded the ram... replaced the old 48kb with 192kb 23:04:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 23:04:31 <Anson> at a time when there was no pc yet 23:05:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> I didn't see this time 23:06:25 <Anson> and i wrote the software to use 48kb of those 192kb as normal memory. and 140kb as ram disk. leaving 4kb to hold the software of the ram disk driver 23:09:12 <Anson> the "good" old times when a computer with 16kb (KILObytes) cost 3000 DM. a 5.25" floppy drive 1500 DM. and a pack of 10 floppies 150 DM 23:10:04 <mfb-> :p 23:10:10 <mfb-> it got cheaper 23:10:21 <mfb-> (and better, but who cares about 6 orders of magnitude?) 23:12:16 <Anson> yes. cheaper: my first harddisk with 10mb (MEGAbytes) was 1500 DM too... now my computer has 8mb ram for 30euro 23:12:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> GB? 23:13:13 <Anson> the harddisk had 10 mega... my comp 8 giga 23:13:29 <mfb-> "now my computer has 8mb ram for 30euro" <- that's why I asked 23:13:51 <Anson> :-) 23:14:44 <Anson> and my phone now has 2 giga. plus 32 for storage on a sd card 23:15:14 <Anson> i can even play ottd on my phone now 23:15:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> time to implement openttd in openttd? 23:15:57 <Anson> not large enough 23:16:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> :/ 23:16:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> ~40kb RAM would fit 23:16:19 <Anson> i mean the play area 2k x 2k 23:16:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, kBit 23:16:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 23:17:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> ROM is more compact 23:17:31 <Anson> what did you mean? i thought you were asking to do ottd in ottd with logic trains... 23:17:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> right 23:17:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> and I estimated 100 tiles per bit of storage 23:18:05 <Anson> you would need a map larger than 2k x 2k 23:18:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> not so much for the storage itself, more for the readout 23:19:05 <Anson> more for the computer... the cpu alone... 23:19:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> CPU does not need so much space 23:19:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> if you don't care about speed 23:20:29 <Anson> look at game2013... that is a data bus of 11 bit :-) 23:20:55 <mfb-> you wouldn't send data with trains 23:21:27 <Anson> without any cpu. display etc... that would be a multiple of it 23:21:32 <mfb-> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=138429&sid=33d639d98ac914d9fa8e00f6f83bc904 23:21:44 <mfb-> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=138446&sid=33d639d98ac914d9fa8e00f6f83bc904 <- ALU 23:21:58 <mfb-> tiny fraction of 2048^2 23:23:09 <Anson> but to do ottd with it you need more than an alu 23:23:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> sure 23:23:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> but a CPU would not be the issue 23:23:55 <Anson> btw: you know minecraft? 23:24:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> and I know about the CPUs there 23:26:21 <Anson> someone made a mod to have a 6502 computer ingame... that is a C64 or apple ][+... with monitor and ingame modem that connects to the real internet an also irc 23:27:56 <mfb-> oh wow 23:28:11 <Anson> so you can play. and use the ingame comp to let your character chat with people who play ottd on this server :- 23:29:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> Dom: are you building something? 23:31:20 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 23:31:20 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:31:29 <mfb-> good night 23:31:49 *** mfb- has quit IRC 23:32:20 <Anson> ottd on my phone runs nicely. but i have to figure out how to best configure the mouse emulation. and which 2-4 keys are most important 23:36:34 <bug_sniper> so do we have any toyland servers? 23:37:05 <bug_sniper> because I think it would be interesting to be able to transport candy across the map 23:47:47 <Anson> welcome server has different maps.... 23:48:33 <Anson> it never resets a map but sometime sooner or later a new map is loaded 23:50:06 <Anson> when one map is full. and people want a new map. and nobody does a lot with the map. AND when someone has created a new map 23:51:23 <Anson> look at the motd of the welcome server's irc channel 23:55:33 <bug_sniper> well, I don't know if I have access 23:55:48 <bug_sniper> but there is definitely a map preparation page with all the settings