Log for #openttdcoop on 18th August 2013:
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08:12:36  <Jam35> !password
08:12:36  <PublicServer> Jam35: dopier
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08:23:23  <V453000> !password
08:23:23  <PublicServer> V453000: madder
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08:24:05  <PublicServer> <Jam35> company :)
08:24:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> heyoo
08:24:14  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi
08:24:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> HOL looks nice
08:25:18  <PublicServer> <Jam35> ty I think i'm done there
08:25:22  <PublicServer> <Jam35> for the time being
08:25:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> KYL YT AL
08:25:39  <PublicServer> <Jam35> what???!
08:25:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> k not done in that manner :)
08:25:51  <PublicServer> <Jam35> no
08:25:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> :>
08:26:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> insufficient evil
08:27:40  <PublicServer> <Jam35> now looking around, don't feel inspired :(
08:27:43  <PublicServer> <Jam35> or :)
08:29:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :DD
08:29:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> that isnt very motivating
08:29:50  <PublicServer> <Jam35> no :)
08:30:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> I could give you some wtf motivation in ~1-1.5 hours
08:30:38  <PublicServer> <Jam35> what does that even mean? :)
08:30:44  <PublicServer> <Jam35> you are free to build then?
08:30:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much
08:31:04  <PublicServer> <Jam35> ok... :D
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09:17:31  <PublicServer> <Jam35> oh why isn't there diagonal stations on bridges :(
09:17:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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09:50:37  <Dom_> !password
09:50:37  <PublicServer> Dom_: graved
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09:50:50  <PublicServer> <Dom> hey hey hey
09:50:56  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hihi
09:51:30  <PublicServer> <Jam35> loads to do :)
09:51:32  <PublicServer> <Dom> ?
09:51:54  <PublicServer> <Jam35> not much network yet
09:51:56  <PublicServer> <Dom> yep
09:52:02  <PublicServer> <Dom> yeah i wanna make a town somewhere
09:52:08  <PublicServer> <Dom> just looking for the right spot
10:04:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> both of you come see stable immediately :D
10:04:55  <a_sad_dude> !dl lin64
10:04:55  <PublicServer> a_sad_dude:
10:23:42  <PublicServer> <Jam35> if a town is separated by water with no road links will it still grow both sides?
10:23:56  <PublicServer> <Dom> idk
10:24:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> town grows along roads where it can
10:24:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> regardless
10:24:23  <PublicServer> <Jam35> ok... we'll soon see
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10:45:53  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hello
10:46:07  <Maraxus> hi
10:56:06  <a_sad_dude> !password
10:56:06  <PublicServer> a_sad_dude: nieces
11:04:16  <a_sad_dude> what are the PGS: ... grfs and where do I get those?
11:04:42  <a_sad_dude> ah
11:04:50  <a_sad_dude> nvm, missed the link.
11:09:26  <a_sad_dude> !password
11:09:26  <PublicServer> a_sad_dude: teller
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11:25:20  <PublicServer> <Dom> which ml station needs more pax?
11:25:26  <PublicServer> <Dom> i have 38k waiting :(
11:25:44  <PublicServer> <Jam35> SEC needs trains
11:27:14  <PublicServer> <Dom> on their way
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11:27:28  <PublicServer> <Jam35> nice 1
11:29:44  <PublicServer> <Jam35> nobody else building? :(
11:29:58  <PublicServer> <Dom> not atm
11:30:28  <PublicServer> <Jam35> someone needs to sort pm's holy mess :p
11:30:30  <PublicServer> <Jam35> TL3
11:30:40  <PublicServer> <Dom> ?
11:30:51  <PublicServer> <Jam35> see sign holy mess /pm
11:31:19  <PublicServer> <Dom> disconnect it?
11:31:33  <PublicServer> <Dom> or
11:31:33  <PublicServer> <Dom> nah
11:31:39  <PublicServer> <Dom> ill do the local stuff :)
11:31:46  <PublicServer> <Jam35> needs fixing imo
11:31:48  <PublicServer> <Jam35> :)
11:33:46  <PublicServer> <Jam35> also EWT any takers?
11:33:56  <PublicServer> <Dom> yes CTL
11:33:58  <PublicServer> <Jam35> half done... needs some love
11:36:46  <PublicServer> <Jam35> I can do something @ Nuuanang also
11:37:12  <PublicServer> <Dom> k
11:44:36  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> hai. nub here. any limitations on what I can do if I don't touch the ML?
11:45:55  <PublicServer> <Jam35> not really just find a town and build it nice
11:46:09  <PublicServer> <Jam35> low tf if poss please :)
11:46:20  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> and that
11:46:39  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> translate CL3 and TF if possible )
11:46:49  <PublicServer> <Jam35> curve length 3
11:46:52  <PublicServer> <Jam35> terraforming
11:46:55  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ah
11:47:07  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> thanks
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11:53:47  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> lol, the "museum of modern arts" building tile (ie. in Elsinore)
11:54:33  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> :D
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12:01:32  <Dom_> !password
12:01:32  <PublicServer> Dom_: allure
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12:15:44  <Dom_> !password
12:15:44  <PublicServer> Dom_: allure
12:15:53  <PublicServer> <Jam35>  you know the idea is to transfer all pax to ML right?
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12:16:39  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> me?
12:16:49  <PublicServer> <Jam35> not sure i guess :)
12:16:59  <PublicServer> <Jam35> so you should have a ML station
12:17:11  <PublicServer> <Jam35> and smaller local traffic transferring
12:17:19  <PublicServer> <Jam35> look around you will see
12:18:09  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> mmkay
12:18:27  <PublicServer> <Jam35> keep the boat running but eventually need it to transfer somewhere :)
12:19:14  <PublicServer> <Jam35> so you could have ML station here
12:19:32  <PublicServer> <Jam35> smaller transfers next to it
12:19:51  <PublicServer> <Jam35> or something :)
12:19:57  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ok ok
12:20:00  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> i'll figure it out.
12:20:02  <PublicServer> <Jam35> cool :)
12:20:12  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> just can't decide what to do with this hill
12:20:23  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> looks too nice to just build houses over.
12:20:53  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> maybe i want to place the station there. but then no idea how to turn around. so need to think. :
12:21:07  <PublicServer> <Jam35> terminus is fine
12:21:17  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> but i don't wanna :(
12:21:47  <PublicServer> <Jam35> don't see another way there really
12:21:50  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> how low tf exactly? )
12:21:57  <PublicServer> <Jam35> also larger footprint so less houses
12:22:07  <PublicServer> <Jam35> flatten it if you wish
12:22:21  <PublicServer> <Jam35> the top bit is ok
12:25:08  <PublicServer> <Dom> :D
12:25:14  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> that *still* isn't fixed?
12:25:17  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hm... :)
12:25:36  <PublicServer> <Jam35> fixed? it's just random
12:25:50  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> i mean, everyone getting the message, instead of the initiator
12:26:06  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> what?
12:26:13  <PublicServer> <Jam35> same company
12:26:20  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> i guess
12:56:11  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> waait... you can build a tram/road tunnel right?
12:56:21  <PublicServer> <Jam35> of course :)
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12:57:42  <PublicServer> <Jam35> back soon
13:17:15  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> so, then I just make trains to random destinations?
13:17:29  <PublicServer> <Dom> CTL needs trains
13:17:32  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ok
13:17:34  <PublicServer> <Dom> 177k waiting XD
13:17:44  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> looks like GYM needs them more )
13:17:46  <PublicServer> <Dom> oh and group them
13:17:53  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ofc
13:18:31  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> is there any easy way to get them to run evenly?
13:18:46  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> or should I just not bother about it :D
13:36:51  <PublicServer> <Jam35> don't think you have the orders quite right @ St Kenzie Dom?: after order 7 jump back to 1?
13:37:22  <PublicServer> <Dom> hm?
13:37:49  <PublicServer> <Jam35> after order 7 they just go via full. full or not
13:38:17  <PublicServer> <Dom> like this#ß
13:38:19  <PublicServer> <Dom> ?
13:38:37  <PublicServer> <Jam35> order 10 should be 8?
13:38:48  <PublicServer> <Dom> why?
13:39:06  <PublicServer> <Jam35> after order 7 it goes to 8?
13:39:16  <PublicServer> <Jam35> so trains just go via full
13:39:27  <PublicServer> <Jam35> it needs to loop around
13:39:34  <PublicServer> <Jam35> the conditions break the loop
13:39:36  <PublicServer> <Dom> ty
13:39:38  <PublicServer> <Dom> :)
13:39:50  <PublicServer> <Jam35> no probs :)
13:40:24  <PublicServer> <Dom> why dont the steamers steam?
13:40:54  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ...did you know that GYM doesn't accept anything?
13:41:01  <PublicServer> <Jam35> where are they?
13:41:13  <PublicServer> <Dom> cartmanland
13:41:15  <PublicServer> <Dom> boats
13:41:25  <PublicServer> <Jam35> oh right :)
13:41:29  <PublicServer> <Jam35> no idea
13:42:00  <PublicServer> <Jam35> GYM: just walk it temp style
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13:42:26  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> maybe we should relocate HQ there )
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13:43:17  <PublicServer> <Jam35> there we go :)
13:44:07  <PublicServer> <Jam35> I have a sick idea for the HQ but not sure it would be acceptable :)
13:44:19  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> o_O
13:44:33  <PublicServer> <Dom> dependson the tf :D
13:44:44  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hq doesn't produce cargo right?
13:44:54  <PublicServer> <Dom> no
13:44:57  <PublicServer> <Jam35> well just use as a dropoff for pax
13:45:04  <PublicServer> <Jam35> their doom :D
13:45:06  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> yes
13:45:12  <PublicServer> <Dom> ok
13:45:16  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> that's what i suggested
13:45:22  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> except doom!
13:45:29  <PublicServer> <Jam35> not like this ;)
13:45:49  <PublicServer> <Jam35> GYM is sorted
13:45:56  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> (:
13:46:02  <PublicServer> <Jam35> I'm talking about human testing laboratory
13:46:15  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> is that an industry?
13:46:21  <PublicServer> <Jam35> it is now :D
13:47:15  <PublicServer> <Jam35> Scenic it is then :)
13:48:13  <PublicServer> <Jam35> no somewhere with no town
14:08:27  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> omg
14:09:39  <PublicServer> <Dom> amm a sad dude why dont you just fund a town?
14:10:07  <PublicServer> <Jam35> that wouldn;t be so much fun
14:10:49  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ?
14:20:03  <PublicServer> <Dom> CTL 299k pax waiting :D
14:20:37  <PublicServer> <Jam35> :D
14:20:39  <PublicServer> <Jam35> shite
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14:38:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D how
14:38:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
14:38:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> 350 now
14:38:26  <PublicServer> <Jam35> shite again
14:38:28  <PublicServer> <Jam35> noooo
14:45:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> guys TL2 slugs are awesome
14:45:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> we need to have a game with them sometime in the future :D
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15:00:46  <PublicServer> <Dom> CTL 400k pax waiting
15:06:06  <nicfer> !paxword
15:06:09  <nicfer> !password
15:06:09  <PublicServer> nicfer: fizzed
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15:07:50  <PublicServer> <nicfer> those three bridges @ Coolabah aren't used ATM
15:09:01  <PublicServer> <nicfer> trains that don't go there choose the detour @ Pineview instead
15:11:59  <PublicServer> <nicfer> can I 'double here?'
15:15:22  <PublicServer> <nicfer> is everybody AFK?
15:15:28  <PublicServer> <Dom> nah
15:29:40  <PublicServer> <Jam35> nicfer you were building EWT?
15:29:52  <PublicServer> <nicfer> yea
15:30:26  <PublicServer> <Jam35> planning to continue?
15:30:34  <PublicServer> <nicfer> yeah, I am now
15:30:38  <PublicServer> <Jam35> k :)
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15:42:13  <PublicServer> <Dom> nicfer are you pulling the ll on?
15:42:21  <PublicServer> <nicfer> which?
15:42:28  <PublicServer> <Dom> nah doesnt matter :)
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15:57:36  <PublicServer> <nicfer> who started road rebuild @ Monhead?
15:57:47  <PublicServer> <Dom> me :(
15:57:57  <PublicServer> <Dom> accidental click
15:58:27  <PublicServer> <Jam35> wrong fund :P
15:58:29  <PublicServer> <nicfer> tried to fund new buildings, aimed wrongly
15:58:36  <PublicServer> <Dom> yep
15:58:46  <PublicServer> <nicfer> happens to me also
16:01:01  <PublicServer> <nicfer> any other ML requiring doubling?
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16:14:26  <PublicServer> <Dom> gtgo
16:14:28  <PublicServer> <Dom> bb
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18:18:00  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi ag
18:18:46  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> how's it going?
18:18:52  <PublicServer> <Jam35> ok
18:18:55  <PublicServer> <Jam35> can u join?
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18:19:13  <PublicServer> <Jam35> yay
18:19:15  <PublicServer> <Jam35> :)
18:19:23  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> but i'm not sure I'll stay :
18:19:45  <PublicServer> <Jam35> 10 mins? :)
18:19:56  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ok
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18:39:20  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> 58k pax at Gorman Hill Docks :
18:40:08  <PublicServer> <Jam35> ty that should have been Gorman hill north
18:40:22  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> and tons of stations in the middle of nowhere
18:40:32  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> :(
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18:41:22  <PublicServer> <Jam35> not sure what you mean
18:42:09  <PublicServer> <Jam35> they are but need building up
18:42:11  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ok not tons
18:42:30  <PublicServer> <Jam35> build away :)
18:42:33  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> but CTL and MHD don't accept anything
18:42:39  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> is this intended?
18:43:13  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> but ok it is fixable yes.
18:44:59  <PublicServer> <Jam35> they do now :)
18:45:31  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> what does "temp" mean? :)
18:45:38  <PublicServer> <Jam35> temporary
18:47:07  <PublicServer> <Jam35> in this case until the town has grown enough for them not to be needed
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18:57:02  <Nigil> !password
18:57:02  <PublicServer> Nigil: pierce
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18:58:01  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi
18:58:11  <PublicServer> <Nigil> hi
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19:01:09  <PublicServer> <Jam35> bbl
19:01:17  <PublicServer> <Nigil> kk
19:02:00  <Jam35> build a town Nigil :)
19:02:19  <PublicServer> <Nigil> w
19:02:22  <PublicServer> <Nigil> will do
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19:09:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
19:09:34  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> hi
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19:27:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm, I need a town name with T...F...
19:28:18  <PublicServer> <Jam35> truffles
19:29:08  <PublicServer> <Jam35> triffids
19:31:22  <mfb->,_Wisconsin lol
19:31:23  <Webster> Title: True, Wisconsin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at
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19:31:31  <mfb->,_Wisconsin ?
19:34:23  <mfb->,_Vermont hmm
19:34:24  <Webster> Title: Thetford, Vermont - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at
19:35:27  <PublicServer> <Jam35> Aussie town names: Toadfish fits :)
19:35:42  <mfb-> :D
19:36:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, and I have to add a "new" in front of the name
19:36:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> as the station is NTF
19:36:27  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> why not "West" ?
19:36:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> west does not start with N, T or F
19:37:16  <PublicServer> <Jam35> north toadfish
19:37:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah :D
19:37:30  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm would have been an idea
19:37:40  <PublicServer> <Jam35> too late :)
19:37:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> it is at the southern border of the map, but who cares
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19:38:23  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> okay
19:48:09  <PublicServer> <Jam35> ah, Teapot Valley: should be TL5
19:48:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
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20:20:12  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> ok I'm not sure I understand path signals.
20:20:19  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> gonna go rtfm a bit.
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20:20:42  <PublicServer> <Jam35> :)
20:21:29  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> or alternatively...
20:21:51  <PublicServer> <Jam35> what do you need to know?
20:21:58  <PublicServer> <Jam35> mfb will tell you :p
20:23:05  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> maybe some other time )
20:23:58  <mfb-> ^^
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20:29:30  <PublicServer> <Jam35> I'm done for tonight cya
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20:29:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> bye
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20:48:27  <PublicServer> <a sad dude> sorry, I'm off too
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20:54:23  <Dom_> !password
20:54:23  <PublicServer> Dom_: awning
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20:54:39  <PublicServer> <Dom> hello
20:57:54  <mfb-> hi
20:59:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm, something is wrong at NTF
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20:59:42  <PublicServer> <Dom> not accepting pax
20:59:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> right, fixed
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21:23:53  <V453000> hio :)
21:23:56  <PublicServer> <Dom> yo
21:23:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
21:24:09  <V453000> !password
21:24:09  <PublicServer> V453000: joyful
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21:25:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> soo what up :)
21:25:15  <PublicServer> <Dom> nothign just building towns
21:25:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> havent seen mfb in a while :P
21:25:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> tile-by-tile construction at NTF
21:25:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> ntf or wtf
21:25:55  <PublicServer> <V453000>
21:26:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> :p
21:26:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw whoever made the names, point of [] signs is to have them at the front of the station sign
21:26:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> they dont help much at the end
21:26:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> ;)
21:29:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb have you seen the blog btw :>
21:29:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> kinda finalized the ting
21:29:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> PZ? sure
21:29:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2013 aye
21:29:39  <PublicServer> <Dom> BDV needs trains :)
21:29:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> actually there was some weird change in openttd
21:29:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> dummies need waypoints now
21:29:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> add them? ;)
21:29:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> otherwise [far end] is actually not end
21:29:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> :/
21:30:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> is actuallt FOUR ends :D
21:30:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> real wtf
21:30:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> (the train, I mean)
21:30:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf
21:30:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> total wtf
21:30:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> I had to fix all dummies in the game
21:30:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> [far end] can be applied FOUR fucking times
21:30:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> the train leaves station after far end and goes to far end again
21:30:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> why, dont ask me
21:31:01  <mfb-> "full load (far end)"*4 orders?
21:31:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> all the answer I got was "becuase far end looked ugly so we made it 4px from the end"
21:31:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:31:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> basically
21:31:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> and 3 px from the end, too?
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21:31:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk
21:31:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> its just fucking unreliable
21:31:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> so waypoints
21:31:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> all of the srnw stations suddenly had ~25% throughput ... due to quadruply slowed dummy speed
21:32:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> never patch running madness
21:32:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> is retarded but fortunately simple reliable solutions with waypoints
21:32:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much
21:32:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> but as the main point of the pzg13^2 was to make it run in latest nightly ... :P
21:32:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> by the way, do you have an idea how to make !this connection less ugly?
21:32:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> no TF
21:33:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah tf the shit out of it ? :P
21:33:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> we will get more nighlies...
21:33:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> well sure but it doesnt mean they will include such retarded changes anytime soon :P
21:33:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> .... :D
21:33:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean the road connection? :)
21:34:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> without tf hardly :) more or less
21:34:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
21:34:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> okay
21:34:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> probably not
21:34:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> or
21:34:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> dno
21:34:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> I like it
21:35:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> k :D all that matters
21:35:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> BTW new NUTS has RAINBOW fucking SLUGS :>
21:35:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
21:36:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont really want to spend time updating server newgrfs so perhaps overnight / in the morning :)
21:37:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> did the town growth algorithm changed somehow?
21:37:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> but 1/100 probability to be a nyan cat? :P priceless
21:37:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> no idea
21:37:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> or maybe it is just a rounding issue
21:37:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is completely possible that Mark had some wtf gamescript on
21:37:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> though I doubt that
21:37:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah now it changed
21:38:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> WTF
21:38:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> the town terraformed a house at water level
21:38:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> XD
21:38:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see it
21:38:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> 104x485
21:39:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
21:39:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> I wonder if you could exploit town TF :D
21:39:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> was water there?
21:39:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess there was eh
21:40:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats pretty evil  considering I make stable basecosts x64k water terraform :P
21:40:34  <mfb-> no
21:40:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> sdfg
21:40:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> asdf
21:40:46  <mfb-> both sides were 1<->0 height
21:40:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> k
21:40:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> similar to !this
21:41:04  <PublicServer> <mfb> just 2 layers lower
21:41:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> lol road construction
21:41:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> WTF who set road rebuilding Dom :D
21:41:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> XDDDDD
21:41:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> fucking christ
21:41:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark and his default settings
21:41:40  <PublicServer> <Dom> there are no vehicles in that city
21:41:42  <PublicServer> <Dom> ...
21:41:45  <PublicServer> <Dom> :D
21:41:51  <PublicServer> <Dom> and i need new roads
21:41:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> cant see !this
21:42:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> :(
21:42:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> /sad
21:42:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> how do new roads differ from old shit? :P)
21:42:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> I removed the sign
21:42:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> /sad .
21:42:25  <PublicServer> <Dom> well
21:42:27  <PublicServer> <Dom> they are new
21:42:34  <PublicServer> <Dom> and they cost  money
21:42:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt mean they differ :P
21:42:47  <PublicServer> <Dom> which is good for economy :D
21:42:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> who cares about economy :p
21:43:05  <PublicServer> <Dom> :D
21:43:19  <PublicServer> <Dom> and it looks fun :D
21:43:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> I ordered a new keyboard from usa today which is totally not economical :>
21:43:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> 140% nerd from now
21:43:25  <PublicServer> <Dom> :D
21:43:31  <PublicServer> <Dom> link?
21:43:45  <PublicServer> <V453000>
21:43:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can customize fucking ANYTHING on it
21:44:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> so if you realize I work as a graphics nerd, you understand that customizing shit is the way to catch my attention :D
21:44:31  <Dom_> is it going to be a otto keyboard?
21:44:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> otto?
21:44:49  <V453000> is that austrian word for mechanical?
21:45:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> guess not huh :)
21:45:18  <Dom_> i meant *ottd
21:45:19  <Dom_> xD
21:45:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> no I dont really have too much openttd related in it
21:45:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> except slugs, mayhem, and stuff
21:45:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I cant really show you how will it look atm as it is in 2 files and I cant quite combine them too easily
21:46:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> so just have to wait :( sad point is that it can get stuck on czech customs office for who knows how long
21:46:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> [fucking long]
21:46:54  <Dom_> lol
21:47:37  <Dom_> why not send it first to germany to someone and then send it to the czech republik
21:47:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> how would that help
21:48:07  <Dom_> well
21:48:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> only gain you cand get is to have an american who sends it to you as a gift so you dont have to pay taxes for it
21:48:19  <Dom_> true that
21:48:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> but usa - ger - cze isnt really helpfulo alone
21:48:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> though  shipping is ass :(
21:49:00  <Dom_> ouch
21:49:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> plus keyboard itself plus tax, I dont even want to count it in total
21:49:41  <Dom_> why then order it??
21:49:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> but totall wurf it :>
21:50:08  <phatmatt> V453000: i assume you've seen art lebedev's keyboards (the one that actually exists)
21:50:22  <V453000> not quite phatmatt
21:50:30  <Dom_> ?
21:50:36  <phatmatt>
21:50:37  <Webster> Title: Optimus Maximus keyboard (at
21:50:42  <phatmatt> each key is a little LCD
21:50:57  <V453000> Dom_: I spend a lot of time (including work) at the computer and i type a lot of stuff ... peripherals like mouse/headphones/keyboard have high value for me
21:51:34  <V453000> phatmatt: mechanical keyboards rule :P
21:51:49  <phatmatt> indeed
21:52:16  <V453000> Dom_: and as the second thing, I am extremely prone to making up my own things (which I bet you can see from my openttd inputs) sooo customizing my own keyboard is pretty much priceless for me
21:52:28  * ^Spike^ switched to a razer blackwidow not too long ago
21:52:32  <^Spike^> still don't regret it :)
21:52:42  <^Spike^> only the blue cherry's make more noise then i thought :D
21:52:45  <V453000> I read a lot about razer blackwidow too
21:52:50  <V453000> getting blue mx cherry too
21:54:00  <V453000> I just got totally captured by the customizability of wasd keyboard :>
21:54:05  <V453000> -> NEED
21:54:52  <V453000> I am getting the blues with 0.2 mm O-rings so lets see :>
21:55:24  <V453000> but even then, I live alone and most of the time I have loud music from speakers on, or even headphones ... so I assume (for now) that the noise wont be a disaster
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21:56:31  <V453000> I actually considered to get a mx brown daskeboard for work purposes to the office, but lets see about that later
21:56:51  <V453000> kinda dont believe browns are silent enough either :>
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21:58:36  <planetmaker> V453000, what then did you modify the keymap to? :D
21:59:04  * planetmaker wants photo
21:59:07  <V453000> planetmaker: I didnt modify keymap, but the colours and text on the keycaps is modified kinda heavily :P
21:59:30  <V453000> but the actual logical keys are standard 104key keyboard
21:59:42  <planetmaker> what 'text'?
22:00:33  <V453000> the thing on the keycaps
22:00:35  <V453000> sec
22:01:30  <V453000> there are two files which combine the keyboard, one from their designer and one from custom .ai file ... I only included text and images but some people do some more weird shit ...
22:01:31  <Webster> Title: Custom Mechanical Keyboard Designer by WASD Keyboards (at
22:02:13  <V453000> photo could be after it arrives to my habitat :>
22:02:43  <planetmaker> :-)
22:03:15  <V453000> still, I spent unimaginable time making the concept and I am soooo much looking forward to it :)
22:03:35  <planetmaker> :D incredible
22:03:46  <V453000> amplified by the fact that my old keyboard broke and now I am at a totally terrible wtf rubber keyboard I got free with the motherboard :d
22:04:25  <planetmaker> :-)
22:04:38  <V453000> so yeah :) man has to make himself happy once upon a time you know :P
22:05:20  <V453000> the "reasonable" part is that this thing is 50M clicks per key ... so it can last for like idk, 15 years of normal usage
22:05:39  <V453000> Which is insane if you ask me
22:07:44  <Anson> can the keycap pictures be programmed at home or did you do that before ordering and they are now fixed?
22:09:05  <V453000> I did not program anything
22:09:13  <V453000> all that you customize is just the text written on it
22:09:25  <V453000> you really dont have a special function for e.g. "rage lock"
22:09:59  <V453000> it is a standard 104key keyboard without any software to it
22:11:06  <V453000> even with PS/2 for n-key rollover :D which I honestly dont understand who could reasonably use that
22:12:48  <Anson> then you can write some software to use the keyboard as screen with something like 700x300 pixels (48x14 per row and 48x6 rows)? :-)
22:13:02  <V453000> idk you probably cant I guess
22:13:16  <V453000> which by far does not mean I am going to do anything even closely similar to that :)
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22:13:40  <V453000> I just want a reliable solid keyboard, and the visual customization  is just awesome
22:14:15  <V453000> not to mention that "awesome" is kinf of priceless :>
22:14:21  <V453000> kind
22:14:26  <V453000> god I hate this shit keyboard
22:14:30  <V453000> :> :P
22:14:53  <V453000> anyway, I will be going, got to wake up early tomorrow
22:14:53  <V453000> gn
22:15:09  <PublicServer> <Dom> n8
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22:32:06  <phatmatt> well shit. i want one
22:32:19  <phatmatt> my bank account doesn't tho
22:32:58  <phatmatt> yikes,  per custom image
22:47:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> now the town killed the water completely :D
22:48:17  <Anson> per image? then they probably will be fixed... would be nice to have them dynamic, to be changed depending on program you currently use etc
22:48:50  <phatmatt> Anson: are you talking about the art lebedev LCD keyboard? me and V are talking about the WASD one
22:49:03  <phatmatt> the LCD one is fully dynamic AFAIK
22:49:13  <Anson> ah
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22:50:46  <Anson> i followed one link above and saw the maximus... without num block and without cursor?... for 1k$
22:51:29  <phatmatt> yeah. it's fucking expensive.
22:51:52  <phatmatt> it's more of a cool-nice-to-look-at thing than actually useful
22:52:13  <phatmatt> it'll need several more revisions before it becomes more useful (and cheaper) imo
22:52:36  <Anson> but if you can change the pics at any time it will be like a monitor with 700x300 resolution :-)
22:53:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> there are cheaper touchpads for that...
22:53:39  <phatmatt> Anson: and 10hz refresh rate
22:53:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> and LEDs for parts of the area only, right?
22:54:21  <Anson> 48x48 per key
22:54:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> and not covering the whole area
22:54:57  <Anson> thus with gaps if used as "monitor"
22:55:04  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
22:55:52  <Anson> i won't spend that money, but am interested ib
22:56:02  <Anson> in such things
22:56:19  <phatmatt> really, you want to go the opposite way
22:56:25  <phatmatt> so have keys on a giant lcd screen
22:56:29  <phatmatt> instead of lcds in the keys
22:56:45  <phatmatt> of course, if you figure that out well, patent that shit and earn your yacht
22:57:39  <Anson> i once got my hands on a character set RAM instead of ROM on a computer many years ago... an apple ][+
22:58:44  <Anson> and i wrote graphics driver for it to display pictures with the charset :-)
23:00:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> lol
23:00:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> train 245 works :D
23:00:58  <Anson> you filled the whole screen with all different chars and then changed the looks of the single chars so that all together showed a picture
23:01:39  <Anson> it was revolutionary at that time :-)
23:02:01  <mfb-> 1970 called, they want new graphics?
23:02:37  <Anson> 1982 or something like that
23:02:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> :)
23:04:00  <Anson> we also modded the ram... replaced the old 48kb with 192kb
23:04:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
23:04:31  <Anson> at a time when there was no pc yet
23:05:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> I didn't see this time
23:06:25  <Anson> and i wrote the software to use 48kb of those 192kb as normal memory. and 140kb as ram disk. leaving 4kb to hold the software of the ram disk driver
23:09:12  <Anson> the "good" old times when a computer with 16kb (KILObytes) cost 3000 DM. a 5.25" floppy drive 1500 DM. and a pack of 10 floppies 150 DM
23:10:04  <mfb-> :p
23:10:10  <mfb-> it got cheaper
23:10:21  <mfb-> (and better, but who cares about 6 orders of magnitude?)
23:12:16  <Anson> yes. cheaper: my first harddisk with 10mb (MEGAbytes) was 1500 DM too... now my computer has 8mb ram for 30euro
23:12:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> GB?
23:13:13  <Anson> the harddisk had 10 mega... my comp 8 giga
23:13:29  <mfb-> "now my computer has 8mb ram for 30euro" <- that's why I asked
23:13:51  <Anson> :-)
23:14:44  <Anson> and my phone now has 2 giga. plus 32 for storage on a sd card
23:15:14  <Anson> i can even play ottd on my phone now
23:15:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> time to implement openttd in openttd?
23:15:57  <Anson> not large enough
23:16:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> :/
23:16:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> ~40kb RAM would fit
23:16:19  <Anson> i mean the play area 2k x 2k
23:16:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, kBit
23:16:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
23:17:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> ROM is more compact
23:17:31  <Anson> what did you mean? i thought you were asking to do ottd in ottd with logic trains...
23:17:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> right
23:17:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> and I estimated 100 tiles per bit of storage
23:18:05  <Anson> you would need a map larger than 2k x 2k
23:18:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> not so much for the storage itself, more for the readout
23:19:05  <Anson> more for the computer... the cpu alone...
23:19:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> CPU does not need so much space
23:19:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> if you don't care about speed
23:20:29  <Anson> look at game2013... that is a data bus of 11 bit :-)
23:20:55  <mfb-> you wouldn't send data with trains
23:21:27  <Anson> without any cpu. display etc... that would be a multiple of it
23:21:32  <mfb->
23:21:44  <mfb-> <- ALU
23:21:58  <mfb-> tiny fraction of 2048^2
23:23:09  <Anson> but to do ottd with it you need more than an alu
23:23:17  <PublicServer> <mfb> sure
23:23:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> but a CPU would not be the issue
23:23:55  <Anson> btw: you know minecraft?
23:24:09  <PublicServer> <mfb> and I know about the CPUs there
23:26:21  <Anson> someone made a mod to have a 6502 computer ingame... that is a C64 or apple ][+... with monitor and ingame modem that connects to the real internet an also irc
23:27:56  <mfb-> oh wow
23:28:11  <Anson> so you can play. and use the ingame comp to let your character chat with people who play ottd on this server :-
23:29:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> Dom: are you building something?
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23:31:29  <mfb-> good night
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23:32:20  <Anson> ottd on my phone runs nicely. but i have to figure out how to best configure the mouse emulation. and which 2-4 keys are most important
23:36:34  <bug_sniper> so do we have any toyland servers?
23:37:05  <bug_sniper> because I think it would be interesting to be able to transport candy across the map
23:47:47  <Anson> welcome server has different maps....
23:48:33  <Anson> it never resets a map but sometime sooner or later a new map is loaded
23:50:06  <Anson> when one map is full. and people want a new map. and nobody does a lot with the map. AND when someone has created a new map
23:51:23  <Anson> look at the motd of the welcome server's irc channel
23:55:33  <bug_sniper> well, I don't know if I have access
23:55:48  <bug_sniper> but there is definitely a map preparation page with all the settings

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