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V453000? :) 10:31:07 <V453000> you are right 10:31:23 <^Spike^> and that for someone that hasn't actually played in a while :D 10:31:37 <V453000> :) 10:32:19 <V453000> still LiveFreeOrLagHard , it is always more effective to build a second line/track instead of making cyclotrons :) 11:01:57 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Yeah, I know second lines would probably be better, but there already are 6 lines right there 11:02:42 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> And I need every station to be accessible from that point 11:06:16 <V453000> come play with us on our servers and you will learn more :) 11:06:18 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Alright, 90 degree settings seem to have solved it! Thanks a lot! 11:06:31 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Can I just freely join your servers? 11:07:19 <V453000> of course 11:07:48 <V453000> see @@quickstart on how to do it 11:07:49 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 11:07:54 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> I've never played multiplayer though. 11:08:31 <V453000> doesnt need to be a problem 11:12:48 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Ah. Game start with airplanes? 11:13:03 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> I mostly use oil trains 11:13:18 *** wedsxcrfv has joined #openttdcoop 11:13:23 <wedsxcrfv> !password 11:13:23 <PublicServer> wedsxcrfv: acorns 11:13:40 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:13:42 <PublicServer> *** wedsxcrfv joined the game 11:13:44 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Then again, I mostly skip ahead to 2050 to avoid having to redo my network :P 11:14:32 <PublicServer> *** wedsxcrfv has left the game (leaving) 11:14:32 <V453000> not like you have to do that either :) 11:15:00 <V453000> some newGRFs provide universal rail through which you can autoreplace trains regardless their "native" track type 11:15:33 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Ah, okay 11:15:45 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> I think I had that installed once, the universal rail thing 11:15:49 <V453000> see NUTS train set, it has it included 11:16:08 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Does your server use any modifications I have to install client-side? 11:16:37 <V453000> no 11:16:55 <V453000> you join with official nightly version you can get as quickstart says 11:17:04 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Alternatively, if I just read the thing, I can find that out by myself. Apologies. 11:18:26 <V453000> :) 11:18:37 <V453000> we also have archives if you want to look at finished games 11:18:39 <V453000> !archive 11:18:39 <PublicServer> V453000: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 11:19:59 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Haha, the ProZone looks really... 11:20:01 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Hectic? 11:20:05 <V453000> pfft 11:20:09 <V453000> :) a bit perhaps 11:22:29 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> So, you don't use CargoDist on the public server 11:22:40 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Then.. You can just randomly move cargo from any station to the next? 11:23:02 <V453000> pretty much 11:23:18 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Using a central hub to which all cargo is shipped? 11:23:24 <V453000> no? 11:23:33 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> *transported 11:23:37 <V453000> just see the savegames to get an image :) 11:23:39 <V453000> it depends 11:23:41 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Okay 11:26:15 <V453000> you will also need our newGRF pack, quickstar mentions it :) 11:26:15 <V453000> !grf 11:26:16 <PublicServer> V453000: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF 11:32:12 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> I already downloaded that 11:32:19 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> I just fail to obtain the server IP.. 11:32:25 <V453000> !ip 11:32:25 <PublicServer> V453000: ps.openttdcoop.org 11:32:35 <V453000> just feel free to ask :) 11:32:38 <^Spike^> @slowstart 11:32:38 <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything 11:32:48 <^Spike^> ;) 11:32:50 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> the ENTIRE wiki? 11:32:53 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> :P 11:33:06 <V453000> actually I dont think that is a good idea anymore ^Spike^ :D 11:33:11 <^Spike^> not? :D 11:33:15 <V453000> most of the wiki is rather outdated and full of wrong info unfortunately 11:33:19 <^Spike^> well what keeps you waiting for updating the wiki? :) 11:33:21 <V453000> or well most ... many parts 11:33:27 <V453000> I do all I can? :P 11:33:32 <^Spike^> or rather... the internals of the wiki ;) 11:33:37 <V453000> duh :D 11:33:43 <^Spike^> well that's where KenjiE20 and i played around with the review idea 11:33:46 <^Spike^> everybody can edit 11:33:52 <^Spike^> and we can just say: yep is good! 11:33:53 <^Spike^> publish! 11:34:04 <V453000> I might actually touch stuff in like 2 weeks 11:34:21 <V453000> and by touch I mean touch a lot 11:34:31 <^Spike^> we'll need to have a talk about our webplatforms anyway... so might not hurt to do it soon @ other universe 11:34:45 <V453000> ye 11:35:02 <KenjiE20> wiki badly needs an update too, but it breaks ALL the things 11:35:12 <^Spike^> well we did make a start with stuff KenjiE20 :) 11:35:16 <^Spike^> it's just alot of work to convert 11:35:23 <KenjiE20> so many templates 11:35:29 <^Spike^> true... 11:35:34 <^Spike^> but also the new templates you worked on 11:36:04 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Damn me, I downloaded the wrong nightly. 11:37:18 <V453000> I have a couple of ideas ^Spike^ , but no time now to make stuff, layter :) 11:38:18 <V453000> in general it leads to making wiki n2, and porting only the "proper" things, write the rest from scratch 11:38:48 <V453000> which means porting archives, junctionary, and a couple of other pages 11:38:56 <^Spike^> KenjiE20 11:39:01 <^Spike^> what does that idea remind us of? ;) 11:39:04 <V453000> rest needs mass sanitizing and rework 11:39:12 <KenjiE20> mhmm 11:40:10 <planetmaker> I don't think really that making a completely new wiki is a good idea 11:40:23 <planetmaker> but when updating, one might simply not update unneeded templates 11:40:52 <planetmaker> LiveFreeOrLagHard, use !dl 11:40:57 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> !DL 11:41:00 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> !dl 11:41:00 <PublicServer> LiveFreeOrLagHard: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 11:41:00 <PublicServer> LiveFreeOrLagHard: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r25734 11:41:11 <planetmaker> !dl lin64 11:41:11 <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r25734/openttd-trunk-r25734-linux-generic-amd64.tar.xz 11:41:15 <V453000> well then I will just sanitize pages and remove many, no other solution out of this mess 11:41:29 <planetmaker> yes. Still the better solution, V453000 11:41:37 <V453000> alright 11:41:42 <planetmaker> rewriting BIG things from scratch is what for instance killed netscape 11:41:44 <V453000> I agree 11:41:49 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> I'll just use Win64... For convenience. 11:41:49 <planetmaker> you loose too much work 11:42:20 <planetmaker> @ V453000 KenjiE20 http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html 11:42:26 <planetmaker> indeed 11:42:32 <planetmaker> smart webster 11:42:44 <V453000> D: 11:42:47 <V453000> :) 11:43:17 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> !pw 11:43:28 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> !password 11:43:28 <PublicServer> LiveFreeOrLagHard: acorns 11:43:44 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:43:44 <PublicServer> *** LiveFreeOrLagHard joined the game 11:44:17 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> You guys seem to avoid terraforming at all cost :p 11:44:50 <V453000> depends, but generally one rule applies - make it look nice 11:44:53 <V453000> which doesnt generally mean no tf 11:45:51 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Doesn't all the climbing slow trains down massively? Or did you guys somewhat alter the settings to avoid that? 11:46:28 <V453000> realistic acceleration model for trains 11:57:41 <PublicServer> *** LiveFreeOrLagHard has left the game (leaving) 12:00:59 <V453000> LiveFreeOrLagHard: we also have a Welcome Server on stable version of openttd :P there are people online right now 12:23:19 <wedsxcrfv> 3 12:23:20 <wedsxcrfv> 3 12:23:20 <wedsxcrfv> 36 12:23:25 *** wedsxcrfv has quit IRC 12:24:46 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Ah, okay, I'll look into that later 12:24:50 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Got to go for now 12:25:02 *** LiveFreeOrLagHard has quit IRC 13:48:22 *** mks has joined #openttdcoop 14:01:24 *** cyph3r has quit IRC 14:26:37 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 14:57:53 *** roboboy has quit IRC 15:11:51 *** Gregor-PLNL has quit IRC 15:22:04 *** Dom__ has joined #openttdcoop 15:24:37 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 15:24:37 *** Dom__ is now known as Dom_ 15:32:56 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 15:49:06 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop 16:23:51 *** Max| has quit IRC 16:38:09 *** uliko has joined #openttdcoop 16:38:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o uliko 16:43:52 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 16:55:54 *** bug_sniper has joined #openttdcoop 17:00:43 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 17:12:35 *** Gregor-PLNL has joined #openttdcoop 17:33:49 *** onekl has joined #openttdcoop 17:34:10 <onekl> !download win64 17:34:10 <PublicServer> onekl: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r25734/openttd-trunk-r25734-windows-win64.zip 17:35:31 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 17:35:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 17:37:09 *** onekl has quit IRC 17:38:05 *** Progman has quit IRC 17:39:18 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop 18:01:09 *** cyph3r has joined #openttdcoop 18:53:17 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 18:59:31 *** evildwarf has joined #openttdcoop 18:59:31 *** Webster sets mode: +o evildwarf 19:03:16 *** uliko has quit IRC 19:20:29 *** cyph3r has quit IRC 19:22:28 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 19:26:00 *** nicfer has joined #openttdcoop 19:32:08 *** LiveFreeOrLagHard has joined #openttdcoop 19:34:05 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> !ip 19:34:05 <PublicServer> LiveFreeOrLagHard: ps.openttdcoop.org 19:34:40 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> !ip welcom server 19:34:40 <PublicServer> LiveFreeOrLagHard: ps.openttdcoop.org 19:34:44 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Ffs 19:34:57 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Does anyone know the IP of the welcome server? :P 19:35:57 <scshunt> LiveFreeOrLagHard: #openttdcoop.stable 19:39:27 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Thanks! 20:01:35 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:18:52 *** evildwarf has quit IRC 20:19:18 *** evildwarf has joined #openttdcoop 20:19:18 *** Webster sets mode: +o evildwarf 21:15:09 *** evildwarf has quit IRC 21:17:10 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 21:27:08 *** Gregor-PLNL has quit IRC 21:32:37 *** evildwarf has joined #openttdcoop 21:32:37 *** Webster sets mode: +o evildwarf 21:37:31 *** LiveFreeOrLagHard has quit IRC 21:46:56 *** Anson has quit IRC 21:47:14 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop 21:53:44 <V453000> !rcon load 2 21:53:56 <V453000> ASDF 21:54:02 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 21:54:11 <V453000> no 21:54:11 <V453000> no 21:54:11 <V453000> no 21:54:46 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:55:13 <V453000> :) 21:55:54 *** evildwarfseviltwin has joined #openttdcoop 21:55:54 *** Webster sets mode: +o evildwarfseviltwin 21:57:24 <^Spike^> yes? 21:59:33 *** evildwarf has quit IRC 22:26:55 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:29:39 *** evildwarfseviltwin has quit IRC 22:35:12 <V453000> iz ok 22:35:21 <V453000> tard just pressed rcon load in kind of wrong channel :) 22:38:46 *** perk11 has quit IRC 23:57:32 *** evildwarfseviltwin has joined #openttdcoop 23:57:32 *** Webster sets mode: +o evildwarfseviltwin