Log for #openttdcoop on 4th December 2013:
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05:47:14  <PublicServer> Hazzard:
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07:34:07  <Benny> !passwprd
07:34:09  <Benny> hm
07:34:11  <Benny> !password
07:34:12  <PublicServer> Benny: monies
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09:47:17  <Benny> did a bunch of stuff on the wiki, added links/redirects and merged some pages.
09:47:25  <Benny> merged signal gaps/signals:
09:47:39  <Benny> merged Shift Mainline/Shift Mainlines:
09:48:05  <Benny> Removed city grow guide and redirected to mfb's towns page:
09:48:07  <V453000> one of the SML articles was a rewrite
09:48:17  <V453000> that should be the only one I think
09:48:29  <V453000> mfbs city grow guide, 100% agree
09:48:43  <V453000> gaps/signals is good
09:49:10  <Benny> havent rewritten too much as im not a person who's good with words, but i tried merging the SML articles evenly
09:49:22  <Benny> one of them had text and the other had examples with some definitions iirc
09:49:36  <Benny> i used the text on top and examples on bottom, but i can change it?
09:50:12  <Benny> also did some simple work on the sidelines page:
09:50:30  <V453000> idk, I am checking now but one of the SML pages was certainly good enough
09:50:31  <V453000> have to check
09:50:32  <Benny> removed a couple of unneeded guides and added redirects to proper articles instead
09:50:40  <Benny> okay
09:50:47  <V453000> sideline looks good, quick and explanatory
09:52:36  <Benny> thanks, actually did some quick writing on that one
09:55:44  <V453000> looks alright to me
09:57:23  <Benny> SML article too? i dont do SMLs so i dont know if any of it is correct
10:27:24  <V453000> I dont quite see what did you actually merge :d
10:28:56  <Benny> all the text above SML Implementations is from one article
10:29:22  <Benny> everything below it is from another one, minus two sentences i deleted in favour of the text from the other article
10:29:37  <V453000> right
10:30:11  <V453000> I see, good (:
10:31:43  <V453000>
10:31:45  <V453000> did you add this?
10:32:00  <V453000> because it doesnt work :P
10:32:51  <Benny> lol you're right
10:32:57  <Benny> and i already fixed it once
10:33:07  <Benny> thanks
10:33:18  <V453000> btw time ago, I started
10:33:26  <V453000> perhaps it could help you with some future vision how it could look like
10:33:50  <V453000> its not final, but I think some cleaning up and making things a lot more direct and accessible would be a good move
10:37:00  <V453000> ... you know about the entry signal at the image, right? wouldnt want to make you fix it 3 times :P
10:39:09  <Benny> Haha
10:39:12  <Benny> yes i fixed it
10:40:25  <V453000> k :)
10:40:28  <V453000> good
10:40:33  <Benny> looking at the new front page now
10:42:14  <V453000> I basically removed the Development section because that is just trash and mess all in all, and I tried to make each of the sections make sense
10:42:30  <V453000> for example the current basic/advanced building sections are just intersecting mess
10:43:25  <V453000> for example a Priority is a cute thing, article about it is helpful, but I would just put a link where it is needed, as the name itself alone "Priority" does not tell anything to a new person
10:43:45  <V453000> example, have a Sideline Junctions page - and there would be a priority at the right time when discussing the joiners
10:44:04  <Benny> that seems like a pretty good idea
10:44:54  <V453000> apart from details like I would totally make Mainline Junctions and totally eliminate a MSH page (because it does not have any difference to BBHs), I think in general the concept of the new main page is quite solid
10:45:15  <V453000> Tutorials should be Basic Building in my eyes
10:45:39  <V453000> not taking the player by hand on every detail in openttd, but quickly and clearly saying everything, possibly with links for more stuff
10:48:08  <Benny> one proper mainline junctions page could work, but im not sure what you'd want to put on it
10:48:22  <Benny> a BBH is just a couple of splits and then mergers
10:49:04  <V453000> yeah but it is nice to tell the new players what to expect there
10:49:14  <V453000> of course it is just a couple of splits and mergers :)
10:49:24  <V453000> but thats why it is under Basic
10:49:35  <V453000> it needs to explain what to expect, and then perhaps link to Merging_Tracks
10:49:37  <V453000> etc
10:49:49  <V453000> the page doesnt even have to be long
10:50:32  <V453000> there can be 3 random images of BBHs with signs/ photoshopped stuff even better, explanation what is which part, what to be careful about, links to merging tracks, etc, done
10:51:01  <V453000> if it is a Basic as in sort of tutorial, flooding it with shitload of text isnt exactly constructive anyway
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10:52:43  <Benny> definitely need links to merging tracks
10:52:47  <Benny> best article on the whole wiki
10:52:51  <V453000> :)
10:52:59  <Benny> ive played openttd for 6 years and this week i build my first BBH
10:53:05  <Benny> because i read that!
10:53:11  <V453000> well its also an explanation to 90% of openttd logic
10:53:23  <V453000> because it applies to everything
10:53:40  <Benny> yeah
10:55:58  <Taede> moin
10:56:49  <Benny> moin? :o
10:57:03  <Taede> mornin, mogge, something in that vain
10:57:52  <Benny> good day sir
11:01:01  <V453000> arse
11:01:39  <Taede> ?
11:01:50  <V453000> random 4 character word to greet people? :D
11:01:56  <Taede> :p
11:02:00  <Benny> cock
11:02:04  <V453000> anus
11:02:23  <V453000> actually english has a whole lot of nice 4char words
11:02:31  <Benny> english is brilliant
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12:01:04  <PublicServer> Osai:
12:01:07  <Osai> !info
12:01:08  <PublicServer> Osai: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Gufingley Transport'  Year Founded: 2100  Money: 25280397472  Loan: 0  Value: 25311283934  (T:825, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
12:01:11  <Osai> !version
12:01:12  <PublicServer> Osai: Autopilot AP+ 4.0 Beta (r99+.422ef4e8cbe1+)
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15:32:04  <nicferirc> !dl win64
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16:27:17  <Vinnie_NL> !dl win64
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16:28:19  <PublicServer> Vinnie_NL: monies
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16:29:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wow that BBH rape
16:30:14  <V453000> RAPE?
16:30:15  <V453000> must see
16:30:18  <V453000> !password
16:30:18  <PublicServer> V453000: monies
16:30:48  <V453000> !dl win64
16:30:48  <PublicServer> V453000:
16:41:59  <V453000> !password
16:41:59  <PublicServer> V453000: byways
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16:42:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> :DDD
16:42:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> fuck
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16:46:43  <Vinnie_NL> that is ugly isnt it
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19:19:07  <nicferirc> hoolis
19:19:20  <nicferirc> los tkm a todos :333
19:26:05  <hylje> oi
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19:44:03  * m-w waves
19:44:19  <m-w> i've got a quick question about a flipflop splitter ...
19:44:30  <m-w> does anyone here know how those things work?
19:45:34  <m-w> my trains refuse to pick the branch with the green signal, they pick the one with a red signal, and get stuck
19:46:44  <V453000> show show :)
19:48:13  <m-w> it's on a private server actually
19:48:27  <m-w> i remember something about two-way signals, am now trying that approach
19:48:46  <V453000> I mean just send a save or screenshot, talking is cute but seeing it solves a lot of things quickly ;)
19:49:19  <m-w> true
19:49:29  <m-w> lemme just wait to see if the two-way thingy fixes it
19:49:39  <m-w> the ff itself is working fine, i.e., the signals alternate
19:50:07  <V453000> the 2-way thing could easily be the issue indeed, depends though :)
19:50:26  <m-w> nope, it isn't :(
19:52:32  <m-w>
19:52:36  <m-w> visibility is a bit bad
19:52:51  <m-w> but the problem isn't in the splitter, it's in the choice it's not making
19:53:32  <V453000> well the left not gate is broken but idk if that is a thing
19:53:38  <V453000> does the train have orders?
19:53:43  <m-w> yes
19:53:56  <V453000> can I have a save? :)
19:54:02  <m-w> hmm, why is it broken?
19:54:34  <m-w> input is green, output is red, so seems to work
19:55:24  <V453000> I believe output of it is always red
19:55:25  <m-w> ohh, yes, it is broken, you're right
19:55:50  <V453000> well my theory is:
19:56:06  <V453000> hm no that doesnt make sense
19:56:15  <V453000> look, just sending a save would make this oh so easier
19:57:02  <m-w>
19:57:19  <m-w> i bet there are tons of other stupid mistakes :P but, well, just starting out with some friends
19:57:54  <V453000> its fine, we will find out :)
19:58:03  <m-w> cool
19:58:17  <m-w> but, does it depend on pathfinder settings?
19:59:18  <V453000> the 2way eol can definitely change that
20:00:55  <m-w> aha :) reading up on it now
20:02:06  <V453000> yeah you have it disabled
20:02:23  <m-w> set yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol 1 should fix it, then?
20:02:40  <V453000>
20:02:41  <V453000> yeah
20:02:42  <m-w> btw the example on the wiki has single signals, not double
20:02:51  <V453000> they arent always necessary
20:03:00  <m-w> ok, lets see what happens now :P
20:03:08  <V453000> depends on the differences of the two tracks, or if they are dead ends etc
20:04:37  <m-w> i understand
20:04:38  <V453000> by the way, just splitting traffic over X lines is not really doing much ;)
20:04:45  <m-w> i know
20:05:13  <m-w> ooooooooooooooooooooh
20:05:15  <m-w> you are my hero
20:05:18  <m-w> it works like a charm
20:05:27  <V453000> :)
20:05:31  <m-w> and well, the splitter ... it's more of an excuse to try the flipflop thingy
20:05:38  <V453000> feel free to ask about anything else whenever you need
20:05:39  <m-w> and it gives a more balanced mainline!
20:05:53  <V453000> yeah, but you dont really need it to be balanced ;)
20:06:01  <m-w> it looks cool
20:06:07  <V453000> fair enough :D
20:06:32  <V453000> but yeah trying new things is always good
20:06:36  <m-w> :)
20:06:42  <m-w> anyway, many many thanks for the help
20:06:48  <V453000> remember to keep the twoway eol on ;)
20:06:55  <V453000> helps with things like overflows etc
20:06:56  <m-w> yes!
20:07:06  <m-w> it used to be on by default, right?
20:07:12  <m-w> i kinda remember this from years ago
20:07:14  <V453000> I think so, I am not even sure
20:07:28  <V453000> but yeah :0
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20:09:47  <V453000> cya
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20:31:17  <mfb-> hi
20:31:40  <Djanxy> hey mfb
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20:36:19  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
20:44:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> the 4th from wood drop to wood BBH has no connection to E
20:45:22  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> I'll have a look
20:45:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> not connected yet
20:45:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> but looks dangerous
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20:47:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> CL :/
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21:07:18  <PublicServer> tneo: waning
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21:22:32  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn
21:22:39  <PublicServer> <tneo> bye
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21:47:22  <damalix> !svn
21:47:22  <PublicServer> damalix: svn update -r26140 && make && ./bin/openttd -n -p sighed
21:47:22  <PublicServer> damalix: svn checkout -r26140 svn:// openttdcoop && cd openttdcoop && ./configure && make
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