Log for #openttdcoop on 7th December 2013:
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00:55:11  <geoffreybeene> Howdy
00:55:14  <geoffreybeene> !players
00:55:17  <PublicServer> geoffreybeene: There are currently no clients connected to the server
00:55:19  <geoffreybeene> @log
01:16:10  <phatmatt> sup
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01:59:01  <geoffreybeene> hey phatmatt
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02:15:16  <Hazzard> !players
02:15:19  <PublicServer> Hazzard: There are currently no clients connected to the server
02:15:31  <geoffreybeene> Hey Hazz
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06:11:18  <BiG_MiNi> :D
06:11:20  <BiG_MiNi> !date
06:11:20  <PublicServer> BiG_MiNi: 29 Jan 2368
06:12:45  <BiG_MiNi> :D
06:13:04  <Djanxy> havent really paid attention to the date
06:13:09  <Djanxy> not that it matters
06:13:10  <BiG_MiNi> yeah
06:13:15  <BiG_MiNi> how far along is everything?
06:13:40  <Djanxy> there's still expanding to do, before adding more trains
06:13:50  <Djanxy> and then more expanding i guess :D
06:14:47  <BiG_MiNi> I think we should add 40000000 trains
06:15:25  <Djanxy> that might be excessive
06:15:52  <BiG_MiNi> good point
06:15:56  <BiG_MiNi> maybe just 5000 more then
06:16:08  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> seeing as there is currently 864 ;)
06:20:40  <BiG_MiNi> def need more trains
06:21:44  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> agreed - just a couple of lines that still needs expansion before it's viable though i think
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08:04:27  <GriffinOneTwo> !players
08:04:29  <PublicServer> GriffinOneTwo: There are currently no clients connected to the server
08:04:46  <V453000> !password
08:04:46  <PublicServer> V453000: strait
08:04:48  <V453000> "dl win64
08:04:51  <V453000> !dl win64
08:04:51  <PublicServer> V453000:
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14:46:06  <geoffreybeene> mornin
14:46:45  <V453000> heyo
14:57:25  <geoffreybeene> hey V453000
14:57:27  <geoffreybeene> how are ya
14:57:58  <V453000> hi there, im pretty great but busy as hell
14:58:11  <geoffreybeene> with non-ttd issues?
14:58:38  <V453000> yeah :)
14:58:55  <V453000> openttd is quite quickly being pushed out from my timetable
14:59:01  <geoffreybeene> thats a bummer!
14:59:34  <geoffreybeene> i need more people around as mentors as i railroad the equivalent of a bull's path thru a china shop
15:00:59  <V453000> :D
15:01:18  <V453000> just play and stress things with throughput to the max and you will learn quite quickly :)
15:01:27  <V453000> obviously reading our stuff helps a lot too
15:01:38  <geoffreybeene> yes the coop wiki is wonderful
15:02:20  <V453000> the blog articles, mainly the ABRs are also quite useful for learning
15:02:30  * V453000 is shameless
15:02:55  <geoffreybeene> ohh you're the myopenttd story guy!
15:03:00  <geoffreybeene> I just went through your whole post the other day
15:03:49  <geoffreybeene> so i am speaking with a prominent community figure, eh??
15:03:52  <V453000> yes I am that guy :)
15:04:07  <V453000> you could say that I guess, yeah
15:04:25  <geoffreybeene> i liked the's nice to see that ottd is a skill like anything else, and no one starts out as a network wizard
15:05:11  <V453000> exactly :)
15:07:20  <geoffreybeene> do you think the community is staying pretty constant?
15:07:39  <geoffreybeene> i'm hoping i don't learn stuff to actually feel ready to contribute on the server and then everyone's disappeared :)
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15:12:00  <V453000> it is staying very solid
15:12:09  <V453000> :)
15:13:58  <V453000> one person can be a leader and motivate others more, but that isnt everything
15:19:52  <V453000> anyway, I got to run :) cya
15:19:56  <geoffreybeene> see ya!
15:19:57  <geoffreybeene> have a good one
15:20:15  <V453000> thanks, work stuff but should be okay :)
15:30:47  <planetmaker> geoffreybeene, the community has been around and kicking since ~2006. So I guess it is bound to stay :)
15:31:19  <planetmaker> people come and go. But the idea and community keeps going
15:31:49  <geoffreybeene> that's good to hear
15:32:02  <geoffreybeene> the IRC is usually pretty dead around the times I can get on, so I was wondering
15:33:18  <planetmaker> most active time is European evening hours
15:38:49  <geoffreybeene> is the welcome server the place i should start?
15:41:53  <planetmaker> it depends a bit
15:42:04  <planetmaker> but it's a good place to start, yes
15:42:14  <geoffreybeene> seems like there tends to be more people on it
15:42:19  <planetmaker> both, the 'PublicServer' as the Welcome server are
15:42:51  <planetmaker> the difference is that the welcome server allows everyone to build in his or her own company. While this server only has one company with a common network plan to follow for everyone
15:43:11  <geoffreybeene> !password
15:43:11  <PublicServer> geoffreybeene: strait
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15:46:07  <Taede> ello
15:46:14  <geoffreybeene> hello
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16:11:23  <geoffreybeene> In the tutorial savegame, I see land "bought" around cities
16:11:27  <geoffreybeene> Does this keep them from expanding?
16:11:42  <geoffreybeene> Also how do you guys mitigate the local authority in the big games
16:12:34  <planetmaker> cities expand along roads. If they can't build roads... no growth. Easier to switch-off though by means of adv. settings
16:12:47  <planetmaker> local authorities love trees. Really do.
16:13:36  <geoffreybeene> Is there a radius around cities that the trees "count" for?
16:13:50  <geoffreybeene> Like, if I've already saturated the local area with trees how do I keep them happy
16:16:04  <Jam35>
16:16:15  <Jam35> there is some info :)
16:16:46  <geoffreybeene> Cool, ty
16:17:07  <geoffreybeene> I was looking at some of your stuff on the pub server Jam
16:17:25  <geoffreybeene> A couple days ago you had what looked like a big jam near the south part
16:17:31  <geoffreybeene> Seemed cleared up today, that was cool
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16:18:05  <geoffreybeene> errr... bottom left... not sure which way the "compass" points
16:18:21  <planetmaker> North is up
16:18:25  <planetmaker> nothing fancy
16:18:44  <geoffreybeene> Oh ok, wasn't sure as everything's diagonal
16:18:46  <planetmaker> people who draw an oblique compass simply fail at directions ;)
16:19:35  <Jam35> some people call north top-left and east top-right :)
16:19:49  <planetmaker> Jam35, but there's no good reason whatsoever to do so
16:19:56  <Jam35> that is mostly accepted but there is always confusion
16:19:59  <Jam35> true
16:20:02  <planetmaker> it's confusing and has no basis anywhere in the game
16:20:18  <planetmaker> mostly accepted is North is straight up
16:21:05  <planetmaker> though I know that some people around coop want to press a different idea, I never understood why
16:21:30  <Jam35> idk (or care that much ) :)
16:21:44  <planetmaker> the game itself is clear about directions: normal way as on every map
16:21:51  <geoffreybeene> This tutorial game is helpful
16:22:28  <geoffreybeene> I can see the appeal to call Top-left North, though...because to build a true north line if North is up requires a wiggly diagonal movement upwards
16:23:57  <planetmaker> quite not
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16:24:14  <planetmaker> you can build rail any of the 4 major and also 4 minor directions easily
16:24:46  <geoffreybeene> Oh jeez you're right
16:24:49  <geoffreybeene> what am I talkin about
16:24:58  * geoffreybeene needs to go make coffee
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17:11:43  <geoffreybeene> HEY HAZZ
17:11:45  <geoffreybeene> caps sorry
17:11:47  <Hazzard> Hey hey
17:11:49  <Hazzard> !players
17:11:52  <PublicServer> Hazzard: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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17:13:02  <Hazzard> !password
17:13:02  <PublicServer> Hazzard: strait
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17:19:54  <Hazzard> Hows everything going?
17:20:17  <geoffreybeene> pretty good, trying to learn about priorities and load balancers
17:20:48  <happy_> good  thanks  how ar  u  hazzard
17:20:55  <Hazzard> good :)
17:21:03  <Hazzard> !help
17:21:03  <PublicServer> Hazzard:
17:21:25  <Hazzard> !wiki
17:21:26  <PublicServer> Hazzard:
17:23:00  <happy_>  !password
17:23:00  <PublicServer> happy_: strait
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17:27:47  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> 'lo
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17:47:16  <PublicServer> <happy tran  sport> hi
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18:06:29  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Anyone want to join?
18:15:39  <Jam35> 1 sec
18:16:58  <Jam35> !password
18:16:59  <PublicServer> Jam35: dainty
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18:17:32  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi
18:18:14  <PublicServer> <Jam35> no need to speak in team channel :)
18:18:26  <PublicServer> <Jam35> it is not logged in irc
18:19:36  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> there
18:19:54  <PublicServer> <Jam35> ok :)
18:20:12  <PublicServer> <Jam35> you may be talking and no-one would hear
18:53:39  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> ?
18:53:43  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> oh
18:54:35  <Anson> hallo... just read back in the log... some people were talking about directions
18:55:24  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> ?
18:55:37  <Anson> on the ps server directions are mostly replaced by hub- and sign-names
18:56:57  <Anson> instead " build from west to north" it is rather "build from slh04 to bbh02"
18:58:12  <Anson> other games like AOE have north in the top right corner
18:59:14  <Anson> but ottd has nothing official besides the names of building shortcut keys
18:59:39  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Well, depending on which side of a town you place a station...
18:59:49  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I think by that it's the top right edge
19:01:03  <Anson> when you build railroads, 1 is build_ns. 2 is build_x. 3 is build_ew. 4 is build_y
19:02:35  <Anson> for roads 1 and 2 are build_x and build_y
19:03:26  <Anson> i didn't see compass directions anywhere else
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19:36:08  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> :|
19:37:54  <PublicServer> <Jam35> what's up?
19:38:16  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> i crashed a train
19:38:22  <PublicServer> <Jam35> :p
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19:59:15  <PublicServer> <tneo> hi
19:59:25  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi
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20:13:09  <geoffreybeene> !PASSWORD
20:13:13  <geoffreybeene> !password
20:13:13  <PublicServer> geoffreybeene: lunacy
20:13:20  <geoffreybeene> indeed
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20:13:43  <PublicServer> <Jam35> yes
20:14:17  <PublicServer> <Jam35> ok wtf is going on !here?
20:14:21  <PublicServer> <Geoffreybeene> so where should i be watching
20:14:37  <PublicServer> <Jam35> see sign list
20:18:59  <PublicServer> <Jam35> right watch carefully
20:19:09  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> hmm?
20:19:49  <PublicServer> <Jam35> there
20:19:55  <PublicServer> <Jam35> red signal
20:20:09  <PublicServer> <Jam35> train heads towards it when there are green choices
20:20:27  <PublicServer> <Jam35> the routes are fine as fas as i can tell
20:20:29  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> huh
20:20:35  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> interesting
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20:21:13  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> We could force the trains to go the wrong way and watch where they go
20:21:20  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> "wrong"
20:21:30  <PublicServer> <Jam35> i've checked
20:21:44  <PublicServer> <Jam35> trains use those lines fine from other routes
20:22:10  <PublicServer> <Jam35> as you can see  if you look slightly north
20:23:00  <PublicServer> <Geoffreybeene> looks like its working now
20:23:24  <PublicServer> <Jam35> yes because the two-way signals force them the other way regardless
20:24:06  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I don't quite understand what the path cost of 2way signals is but it seems to be working now
20:24:17  <Jam35> see:
20:24:20  <PublicServer> <Geoffreybeene> would it be possible to make the middle red line take on more traffic at this junction?
20:24:28  <PublicServer> <Geoffreybeene> seems like the two outside lines are very busy and middle is not
20:25:30  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Ok
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20:26:28  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> The trains do seem to like the left track the best
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20:27:34  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Doesn't the pathfinder try to avoid two way signals in general?
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20:28:45  <PublicServer> <Jam35> if train sees red 2 way: go anywhere else
20:28:51  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Yeah
20:30:41  <PublicServer> <Jam35> ah missed connection
20:31:19  <PublicServer> <Jam35> to here
20:38:56  <Jam35> Geoffreybeene: yes that line had a missing connection, hence trains tried to avoid
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21:17:36  <V453000> !password
21:17:36  <PublicServer> V453000: whores
21:17:41  <V453000> LOL
21:17:56  <V453000> this thing means business today
21:18:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> yooo
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21:18:19  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Whats up
21:18:26  <Hazzard> XD
21:18:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> shits on fire yo
21:19:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> sooo how are thepm meow (:
21:19:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> found anything interesting on the stat changing mechanic yet?
21:19:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> I thought it would be nice if the stats changed more
21:19:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> like at least 50 or even more percent
21:19:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> so it would be even more noticeable
21:20:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> but e.g. change of speed by 100% is fucking insane
21:20:36  <Taede> could make more traintypes which vary only one stat, but different amounts depending on colour
21:20:58  <Taede> eg, red = speed +30%, blue +50 yellow +75% etc
21:21:47  <V453000> wouldnt yellow automatically be best in such case?
21:22:03  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Wait, you're telling me the colors actually _do something_?
21:22:17  <Taede> true
21:22:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> the MEOW class of trains changes stats with them
21:22:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> see the purchase menu
21:23:10  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Are we using meows?
21:23:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes?
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21:23:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vehicle class: MEOW
21:23:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> says it :P
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21:25:52  <Steven> !password
21:25:52  <PublicServer> Steven: sinewy
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21:46:08  <nicferirc> !playercount
21:46:08  <PublicServer> nicferirc: Number of players: 2 (0 spectators)
21:46:47  <Hazzard> !password
21:46:48  <PublicServer> Hazzard: muffin
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21:48:31  <Jam35> bb, on stable atm
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23:36:47  <Hazzard> !password
23:36:47  <PublicServer> Hazzard: muffin
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