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02:48:33 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard #1 has left the game (leaving) 02:48:33 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 04:42:43 *** retro|cz has quit IRC 04:47:37 <Hazzard> No one is ever on 04:47:38 <Hazzard> :( 04:55:49 <phatmatt> it has been quiet lately, yeah 04:55:58 <phatmatt> blame holidays i guess 05:05:21 <Hazzard> yeah 05:22:03 *** sim-al2_ has quit IRC 05:33:12 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (leaving) 05:33:27 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 06:01:49 *** Djanxy has quit IRC 06:57:11 *** nicferirc has quit IRC 07:07:23 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 07:07:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 09:29:46 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 09:48:27 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 11:13:50 *** Ristovski has joined #openttdcoop 11:53:27 *** nicferirc has joined #openttdcoop 12:31:44 <nicferirc> sat/sundays are the days the server's more full right? 12:39:13 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop 12:39:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Jam35 12:52:14 *** Benny has joined #openttdcoop 13:05:03 <planetmaker> depends, I guess. :) 13:05:09 <planetmaker> !date 13:05:09 <PublicServer> planetmaker: 16 Feb 2411 13:11:53 *** uliko has joined #openttdcoop 13:11:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o uliko 13:49:47 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop 13:49:49 <Vinnie> !password 13:49:49 <PublicServer> Vinnie: revere 13:50:00 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:50:02 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 13:51:18 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 15:15:15 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop 15:16:16 <Djanxy> !players 15:16:19 <PublicServer> Djanxy: There are currently no clients connected to the server 15:27:56 <Vinnie> planetmaker: better make that part more interesting then 15:37:36 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 15:37:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Phoenix_the_II 16:00:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Phoenix_the_II 16:00:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v uliko 16:00:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Jam35 16:00:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ODM 16:00:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Ammler 16:00:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v hylje 16:00:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v KenjiE20 16:00:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Taede 16:00:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v V453000 16:00:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Webster 16:12:45 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 16:36:21 *** retro|cz has joined #openttdcoop 16:54:58 *** skyem123 has joined #openttdcoop 18:00:53 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 18:00:59 <Hazzard> !players 18:01:01 <PublicServer> Hazzard: There are currently no clients connected to the server 18:05:41 <Benny> !revision 18:05:41 <PublicServer> Benny: Game version is r26140 18:06:43 <Benny> !password 18:06:43 <PublicServer> Benny: revere 18:06:52 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:06:54 <PublicServer> *** Benny joined the game 18:09:03 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:09:03 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:09:03 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 18:09:07 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> hey 18:09:09 <PublicServer> <Benny> hello 19:37:18 *** nicferirc has quit IRC 19:55:23 *** cyph3r has joined #openttdcoop 20:02:08 *** Vinnie_NL has joined #openttdcoop 20:02:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Vinnie_NL 20:02:12 <Vinnie_NL> hello 20:06:37 <Benny> hi 20:57:24 *** nicferirc has joined #openttdcoop 20:58:14 <Benny> !someone 20:58:15 <Benny> !admin 20:58:17 <Benny> !help 20:58:17 <PublicServer> Benny: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 20:58:20 <Benny> lol 20:58:23 <Benny> anyway train limit 21:00:56 <Jam35> try now :) 21:01:43 <PublicServer> <Benny> thanks! 21:01:50 <Jam35> np 21:16:00 *** cyph3r has quit IRC 21:19:07 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:36:35 <PublicServer> *** Benny has joined spectators 21:36:35 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:36:39 <PublicServer> <Benny> shit 21:36:41 <PublicServer> <Benny> wrong button 21:36:45 <PublicServer> *** Benny has joined company #1 21:36:45 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:36:47 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> lol 21:40:08 *** retro|cz has quit IRC 21:56:59 <PublicServer> <Benny> those penalties are bad 21:57:09 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I have no idea what I'm doing 21:57:11 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> lol 21:57:17 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Still working on it 21:57:28 <PublicServer> <Benny> its good that you have the guts to experiment ;) 21:57:36 <PublicServer> <Benny> i was always too afraid to touch shit 21:57:39 <PublicServer> <Benny> didnt learn anything 21:57:49 <PublicServer> <Benny> anyway, try imagining where trains are going to stop to wait 21:57:53 <PublicServer> <Benny> and space signals accordingly 21:59:00 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Oh whoops 21:59:06 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> left a train stopped 21:59:14 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I was wondering why there was a huge jam 21:59:20 <PublicServer> <Benny> :D 22:18:56 <Djanxy> !password 22:18:56 <PublicServer> Djanxy: betray 22:19:21 <PublicServer> *** Djanxy joined the game 22:19:22 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hello 22:19:28 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> good evening 22:19:35 <PublicServer> <Benny> evening djanxy 22:19:41 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> or whatever is it where you are :D 22:19:59 <PublicServer> <Benny> it is indeed evenign 22:20:02 <PublicServer> <Benny> evening* 22:20:16 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> where's the action 22:20:26 <PublicServer> <Benny> FPP 22:20:49 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> ah 22:21:03 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> :3 22:22:57 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Yeah, I don't really know what I'm doing 22:23:19 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> just like me then :D 22:24:21 <PublicServer> *** Djanxy has joined spectators 22:30:56 *** Ristovski has quit IRC 22:32:20 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 22:37:58 *** nicferirc has quit IRC 22:44:00 *** nicferirc has joined #openttdcoop 22:44:12 <nicferirc> !payers 22:46:48 <Benny> no payers here 22:46:54 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> huh 22:47:01 <nicferirc> !playercount 22:47:02 <PublicServer> nicferirc: Number of players: 3 (1 spectators) 22:47:14 <PublicServer> <Benny> irc 22:49:16 <nicferirc> !password 22:49:16 <PublicServer> nicferirc: joyful 22:49:36 <PublicServer> *** nicfer joined the game 22:52:12 <PublicServer> *** nicfer has joined company #1 22:52:22 <PublicServer> <nicfer> ham west of SLH 08 22:53:32 <PublicServer> <nicfer> don't know if exactly a jam 22:53:34 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> hi to you too nicfer :D 22:53:41 <PublicServer> <Benny> ham with jam 22:53:52 *** Vinnie_NL has quit IRC 22:54:08 <PublicServer> <Benny> but yeah, recently added 100 trains 22:54:26 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> looks like a 4th is needed to drop with those extra trains 22:55:28 <PublicServer> <nicfer> 4th from BBH south to BBH Wood? 22:55:48 <PublicServer> <Benny> wat 22:55:59 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> nah meant from BBH gold to drop 22:56:01 <PublicServer> <nicfer> oh there's already 4th there 22:56:05 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> since that's where the jam is 22:56:11 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> that you mentioned 22:56:45 <PublicServer> <nicfer> 3rd isn't too busy already 22:57:23 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> well it's that merge they are queueing at ? 22:57:49 <PublicServer> <Benny> prios slightly too long imo, but yes that is getting very close to needing a 4th 22:57:59 <PublicServer> <Benny> or well, it does 22:58:01 <PublicServer> <Benny> :D 23:01:39 <PublicServer> <nicfer> I noticed prios tend to create a 'compress-decompress' effect 23:01:46 <PublicServer> <Benny> decompress? 23:02:00 <PublicServer> <Benny> but compress, yes 23:02:06 <PublicServer> <Benny> if they are short, i mean 23:03:32 <PublicServer> <nicfer> when a train comes into an unpriorized track, it blocks the priorized lane, getting the trains to come closer 23:03:58 <PublicServer> <Benny> yes, thus compressing them 23:04:32 <PublicServer> <nicfer> after enough gap between trains has been made, the cycle starts again 23:04:58 <PublicServer> <Benny> yep, thats why too long prios are bad 23:05:30 <PublicServer> <nicfer> well, the decompression comes from trains stopping and reaccelerating 23:06:16 <PublicServer> <Benny> decompression would be something like a split i thought 23:06:24 <PublicServer> <Benny> i.e. relieveing pressure 23:06:50 <PublicServer> <nicfer> yeah, that's another way of a ML decompressing 23:07:40 <PublicServer> <nicfer> so, prio length depends on difference between the traffic of the lines 23:07:48 <PublicServer> <Benny> no 23:07:52 <PublicServer> <Benny> train length and acceleration 23:08:23 <PublicServer> <Benny> too short prios with badly accelerating trains = you'll block the ML too much 23:08:33 <PublicServer> <nicfer> I meant that, for example, in SLHs the prios are larger than on BBHs 23:08:35 <Hazzard> I like these: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Two-way_Prio 23:09:15 <PublicServer> <Benny> nicfer: depends on design 23:09:51 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Is it even necessary to mix before a station? 23:10:03 <PublicServer> <Benny> for drops, no 23:10:14 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> XD 23:10:26 <PublicServer> <Benny> but having choice before a station reduces the number of neccesary platforms 23:10:57 <PublicServer> <nicfer> BTW, I think that gold drop to BBH definitively needs a 4th lane 23:11:15 <PublicServer> <Benny> yeah 23:11:21 <PublicServer> <nicfer> question is, dies the station require more platforms? 23:11:27 <PublicServer> <Benny> probably 23:11:37 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Alright, i need an expert opinion on LV drop 23:11:45 <PublicServer> *** Benny has joined spectators 23:11:47 <PublicServer> *** Benny has joined company #1 23:11:49 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> livestock and wheat 23:12:36 <PublicServer> <Benny> well it works :) 23:12:46 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Is "works" good enough? 23:13:04 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> (not done with signals yet 23:15:59 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Also, where can I found out exactly what each color does 23:16:03 <PublicServer> <nicfer> what's the correct way to expand a ML at a SLH? bridging the ML over the SL or redoing the splitting ways? 23:16:19 <PublicServer> <Benny> Hazzard: look at the network plan 23:16:29 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Yeah 23:16:51 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> What is "max TE" 23:16:57 <PublicServer> <Benny> tractive effort 23:17:11 <PublicServer> <Benny> something along the lines of torque/traction iirc 23:18:29 <PublicServer> <Benny> nicfer: nothing wrong with bridging the ML 23:18:39 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> So what is the difference between TE and acceleration? 23:19:17 <PublicServer> <Benny> if i understood it correctly 23:19:21 <PublicServer> <Benny> which i may not have 23:19:31 <PublicServer> <Benny> TE is the train's ability to get going 23:19:49 <PublicServer> <Benny> and acceleration is the rate which a train picks up speed after having gotten some initial speed 23:21:32 *** skyem123 has quit IRC 23:22:23 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Now the food exit needs a lot of work 23:23:41 <PublicServer> <Benny> not just the exit 23:23:51 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Yeah 23:24:03 <PublicServer> <Benny> need 3rd from FPP to BBH Wood 23:24:47 <PublicServer> *** nicfer has joined spectators 23:25:11 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> So the exit and MSH FPP needs to be upgraded 23:25:29 <PublicServer> <Benny> yep 23:26:15 <PublicServer> <Benny> 2+4->3 would probably be the way to go 23:27:02 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> It's probably worthe expanding food pickup 23:27:44 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That's strange 23:27:58 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> no nvm 23:32:40 <PublicServer> <Benny> well im off for bed now 23:32:54 <PublicServer> <Benny> cya 23:32:56 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> cya 23:32:58 <PublicServer> *** Benny has left the game (leaving) 23:32:58 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:33:06 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has joined spectators 23:33:11 *** Benny has quit IRC 23:40:34 <PublicServer> *** nicfer has joined company #1 23:40:39 <PublicServer> <nicfer> back 23:42:13 <PublicServer> *** nicfer has joined spectators 23:44:13 <PublicServer> *** nicfer has joined company #1 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