Log for #openttdcoop on 2nd January 2015:
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03:17:15  <geowgie> Hey, been playing OpenTTD for a while (read 6 months or so). Still very much a noob when it comes to really high-capcity networks…
03:17:17  <geowgie> This seems like an awesome community to learn from
03:18:08  <geowgie> (From reading your wiki anyway, already learnt a ton of stuff)
03:19:17  <geowgie> @quickstart
03:19:18  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
03:25:57  <geowgie> !dl osx
03:25:58  <coopserver> geowgie:
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03:34:13  <geowgie> !password
03:34:13  <coopserver> geowgie: decent
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04:02:02  <Sylf> yeah, welcome, geowgie
04:02:50  <geowgie> Thanks!
04:03:02  <geowgie> I will spectate on the public server tomorrow and see what’s what
04:03:54  <Sylf> what timezone do you live in?
04:12:59  <geowgie> UK
04:13:23  <geowgie> (insomniac :p)
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16:33:29  <Jam35> !password
16:33:29  <coopserver> Jam35: detect
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16:34:03  <Jam35> hm crash on joining
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16:34:52  <Sylf> hm?
16:35:07  <Jam35> ... has stopped working etc
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16:39:02  <Jam35> Weird cos I had the similar on stable the other day
16:39:12  <coopserver> <Taede> platform?
16:39:22  <Jam35> win 8. whatever
16:39:30  <Jam35> yeah new pooter
16:40:20  <coopserver> <Taede> weird
16:40:52  <coopserver> <Taede> not that im a win8 expert, first thing i did with mynew laptop was take it off
16:43:12  <Jam35> I almost went with win7 but figured it will stop being supported sooner than I think
16:44:55  <Taede> yeah, 2 weeks from now
16:45:02  <Taede> extended support only after that
16:45:04  <Jam35> really?! :)
16:45:19  <Taede>
16:45:20  <Webster> Title: Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Windows Help (at
16:45:25  <Jam35> yep sooner :p
16:45:53  <Taede> thought it was 2017 for some reason
16:46:22  <Taede> wonder if i should upgrade the kid's pc's to win8.1 then, they still have windows for gaming
16:48:03  <Taede> or i might hold off and go straight for 10
16:48:37  <Sylf> D:  I had no idea win7 was that close to the end
16:48:41  <Sylf> but meh.
16:49:00  <Taede> it might go the way of xp
16:49:23  <Sylf> I bought a lap top last month... Win8.1 remained on it for whole 30 minutes after it got home
16:49:41  <Sylf> long enough to make the backup
16:51:51  <Jam35> I won't sing it's praises but it works for my needs
16:51:53  <V453000> waaat
16:52:27  <Sylf> I'm gonna pass on win8/win8.1
16:52:32  <Sylf> AT least wait for win 10
16:52:43  <Jam35> I have this classic shell/explorer thingy so it looks/feels the same
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16:58:00  <V453000> cant say I get what the page Taede linked is about :D
16:58:02  <V453000> hints?
16:58:06  <V453000> I got win7, what does it mean
16:58:11  <V453000> I got win7, what does it mean
16:58:14  <V453000> sdf :)
16:58:23  <Taede> means no more updates for windows 7 as of jan 13th
16:58:29  <V453000> ah right
17:05:41  <LadyHawk> rediculous... finally go through the trouble of updating windows to a windows version that isn't riddled with troubles for what you wanna use it for, less than a year later you're back in the same boat cuz microshaft decides 'go fork out more money for an OS you dont wanna run!'
17:06:07  <LadyHawk> thanks, bitch, ever considered not everybody is rich enough to do this twice a year?!
17:09:16  <LadyHawk> i've already bought 2 copies of win7 in the past 5 months because shortly after buyign the 1st copy, the motherboard died
17:09:45  <LadyHawk> buy the second copy last month only to find out i've got to buy yet another copy of windows in a couple of months from now
17:10:04  <Taede> so why the 2nd copy? if the mainboard is fried, yu should be able to transfer the license to the replacement, no?
17:10:04  <LadyHawk> all because i said fuck it to windows vista
17:10:09  <LadyHawk> no, you can't
17:10:19  <LadyHawk> windows is tied to your mobo
17:10:30  <LadyHawk> any other hardware replacement and you can move your windows copy over, but not the mobo
17:10:34  <LadyHawk> it'll say it's invalid
17:10:43  <LadyHawk> and wont let you update
17:10:53  <Taede> it should reactivate though
17:10:56  <LadyHawk> nope
17:11:07  <LadyHawk> unless you fork out extra money i didn't have at the time to buy a copy that's not OEM
17:11:18  <LadyHawk> then you can contact microsoft to get it reactivated
17:11:21  <Taede> ah, oem
17:11:39  <LadyHawk> but in a few months that wont matter anymore anyway
17:11:54  <LadyHawk> the world is consumed by greed
17:12:10  <Sylf> Windows 10 is rumored to be free
17:12:21  <LadyHawk> microsoft sees the world through the dollar signs they have in their eyes
17:12:31  <LadyHawk> seeing is believing =)
17:12:35  <LadyHawk> hope it's true
17:12:39  <Taede> i thught it was going to be subscription based?
17:12:44  <Taede> ah well
17:13:05  <Taede> we'll find out when ms release the release dates and pricing
17:13:07  <Sylf> I really don't plan on buying windows for home anymore
17:14:08  <Sylf> ms will get their money from corporations who use the subscription licensing
17:16:47  <Taede> same here
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17:46:38  <V453000> Sylf: around
17:46:41  <V453000> I got some news XD
17:46:46  <Sylf> what's that?
17:46:49  <V453000> CATS
17:46:53  <V453000> Elyon has returned XD
17:46:58  <Sylf> oh?
17:47:13  <V453000> ima start making station spritez on monday right away
17:47:51  <Elyon> yeah sometimes I uh
17:47:57  <Elyon> disappear for a year
17:48:02  <V453000> :)
17:48:02  <Elyon> it happens occasionally
17:48:34  <V453000> well I believe Sylf here is quite interested in the stations too, so if you give us some documentation, we could eventually carry on with the project :P
17:48:42  <V453000> so far nobody decoded wtf did you do XD
17:48:52  <Elyon> no, I can't really, either
17:49:00  <Elyon> well I can sort of, but it's so messy and undocumented
17:49:44  <Sylf> oh, I just wanted some station platfroms that regcognized yetis
17:50:39  <Sylf> I like the visual cues on stations
17:51:06  <Elyon> CATS is pretty ambitious in that regard ...
17:52:06  <V453000> yeah :D
17:52:23  <V453000> lets see what we can get done
17:52:42  <V453000> I can get some cargo/station sprites very quickly
17:52:49  <V453000> since all of the essential models are done
17:52:58  <Sylf> I haven't tried to understand CATS source yet
17:53:26  <Elyon> don't bother
17:53:45  <Elyon> I use it for inspiration now, while reworking CATS from scratch (get it?)
17:54:12  <Sylf> I got the scratch post you can use
17:55:15  <Elyon> :3
17:56:49  <V453000> XD
17:57:12  <Elyon> basically, though, it worked like this
17:58:56  <Elyon> determine cargo waiting (up to 8 types) --> select a random (from 64 pregenerated) layout for cargo and fill it based on amounts --> draw platforms based on accepted cargo and/or adjacent platform types
17:59:29  <V453000> brains blowing in the process
17:59:34  <Elyon> but there was a lot of pregen - maybe too much, iirc 15000+ lines of NFO
18:00:11  <Elyon> oh and somewhere in there it gets animated as well
18:00:24  <V453000> XDDD
18:00:34  <Elyon> can't recall the code is horrendous - well it's okay actually, just unreadable by virtue of 360 nocomment
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