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00:18:14  <Mazur> Not a fan anymore.
00:18:59  <Mazur> I like the other idea with all the industries from all the climates.
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02:16:37  <happpy> ecs is bad  for the map so no I  vote no as will  eney way gn have fun
02:17:22  <happpy> !players
02:17:22  <coopserver> happpy: The server is empty, noone is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation
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03:30:56  <dwarf> !pw
03:30:56  <coopserver> dwarf: primes
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03:46:19  <dwarf_> !pw
03:46:19  <coopserver> dwarf_: aspect
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03:58:15  <dwarf_> !pw
03:58:15  <coopserver> dwarf_: failer
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06:30:56  <Mark> morning
06:31:08  <Mark> lol: ecs sucks for coop games
06:31:11  <Mark> go yeti or firs
06:31:26  <Mark> unless ecs has changed recently that is
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09:46:10  <lol> i made something else without ecs
09:46:11  <lol> http://1drv.ms/1SKLFB6
09:46:12  <Webster> Title: Microsoft OneDrive - Access files anywhere. Create docs with free Office Online. (at 1drv.ms)
09:46:26  <lol> the farmlands will spawn if you let the map run for a few monthes
09:47:27  <lol> let me know what you think about it, especially my newgrf choice, because it is hard to decide which ones to ues
09:47:29  <lol> use
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09:54:11  <lol_> i will read logs
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10:35:54  <longtomjr> hello all
10:35:58  <longtomjr> :)
10:36:42  <Mark> hi
10:37:32  <longtomjr> I am having a problem with NUTS. I only get the 8bbp sprites. Everything else is dandy. YETI and baseset works in 32bbp
10:37:53  <Mark> V453000
10:37:55  <Mark> ^
10:38:35  <longtomjr> I already changed my Config settings to force 32bp
10:39:24  <Mark> not all NUTS trains are 32bbp
10:40:14  <longtomjr> ah ok. I use 1940s trains atm. I assume the slugs etc will have 32bbp grapics tho
10:42:09  <longtomjr> on an urelated note, what is the reccommeded launcher thingie to use at this date.
10:42:35  <longtomjr> I have been out of the community for a while so I dont know this stuff anymore. :)
10:46:56  <longtomjr> nevermind, found it. Updater it is called.
11:14:21  <V453000> Slugs, maglev and chameleon is 32bpp/ez :P
11:14:42  <V453000> Hy Mark
11:19:02  <longtomjr> thanks a lot V453000
11:19:23  <V453000> I didnt help much :P
11:19:34  <longtomjr> is the other trains part of the DOOM project thingie?
11:20:25  <V453000> No, the idea is to replace all eventually, but my newgrf development is on hold indefinitely now
11:21:04  <V453000> If I would do anything, probably BRIX would go first
11:21:58  <V453000> Not even mentioning how much technical bullshit are openttd recolour masks and stuff
11:22:06  <V453000> Viva la 8bpp
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11:52:13  <happpy> !players
11:52:13  <coopserver> happpy: The server is empty, noone is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation
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12:02:02  <lol> @logs
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12:07:05  <happpy> hi lol
12:22:57  <lol> hi happpy
12:23:10  <lol> i made a new map
12:23:12  <lol> without ecs
12:24:17  <happpy> nice
12:24:35  <happpy> we got a map on the welcome server
12:25:46  <lol> a new one?
12:26:04  <lol> does it have special newgrf's?
12:26:34  <happpy> yer we got a new won it start yesterday
12:27:05  <lol> what industries does it have?
12:27:48  <happpy> farm and coal and wood and so on
12:28:06  <lol> ah nice
12:28:15  <lol> maybe i got some time tonight
12:28:20  <lol> to play
12:28:42  <happpy> I   have join mark company
12:29:06  <happpy> did not have time to doo  won
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12:55:15  <lol> hi cha0tics
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14:47:15  <lol_> @gap 3
14:47:15  <Webster> lol_: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
14:47:24  <lol_> @logs
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16:22:12  <Sylf> Lol, the link from earlier today only has a screenshot
16:26:05  <lol> really?
16:26:16  <lol> @logs
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16:27:36  <lol> i see, i will make a new link
16:28:00  <lol> http://1drv.ms/1iyLdJE
16:28:01  <Webster> Title: Microsoft OneDrive - Access files anywhere. Create docs with free Office Online. (at 1drv.ms)
16:28:30  <lol> i think i selected the screenshot when i pressed the sharebutton
16:32:42  <Sylf> !dl
16:32:42  <coopserver> Sylf: !download lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
16:32:43  <coopserver> Sylf: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r27428
16:55:36  <Mazur> "map psg lol.sav"?
16:58:02  <Sylf> Yeah
16:58:20  <Sylf> Let's load that on welcome server first
16:58:56  <Sylf> If players don't know how the industry set works, we can't even make a plan
17:00:12  <Mazur> Fine with me, Mark's map is even hillier than he expected, and it can always be reused.
17:01:49  <happpy> yer save the game so if  we don't like it we can go back to mark map
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17:04:33  <happpy> will  the  map date on  the  welome server is Jul 12 1973
17:12:49  <Sylf> Lol, your save file is corrupt again
17:13:18  <Sylf> If you are using a patched version of openers to create these maps, don't
17:14:17  <Sylf> See http://webster.openttdcoop.org/?channel=openttdcoop.stable
17:15:43  <Sylf> Or make sure that the file is not being corrupted in the process of upload
17:16:51  <happpy> lol  has  got  time  out  from the irc  i  tel hem  when he cumes back
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17:41:11  <Sylf> He reads the log, so no need to do anything
17:42:07  <happpy> k
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18:07:50  <happpy> wb  lol
18:08:22  <lol> thanks
18:08:26  <lol> i read the logs already
18:08:34  <lol> how do you see it is corrupt ?
18:08:43  <lol> because i never notice that
18:09:13  <lol> i think i used version r27428 to make this map
18:09:45  <lol> industry set is really simple if you take a look at the industrynames
18:10:02  <lol> but if you want to play it at the welcomeserver first that is fine for me too
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18:36:44  <Sylf> If you read the log for the stable channel, you see that this file also has the "Referencing invalid Town" error
18:37:32  <Sylf> To check, you can download the file yourself and see if you can load that copy of the file after you upload it
18:43:08  <lol> i cannot find that logs
18:46:10  <Sylf> I linked that earlier
18:48:31  <Mark> sounds like a town names grf issue?
18:48:42  <Sylf> No
18:49:26  <Mark> oh
18:49:34  <Sylf> I think wget utility doesn't like downloading the file from that file share site
18:49:50  <Mark> if you say so
18:50:08  <Sylf> The file worked for me when I downloaded the file locally via a browser
18:50:16  <Mark> hmm
18:50:21  <Sylf> At least this latest file
18:50:31  <Sylf> But this industry set is weird
18:51:15  <Sylf> I can't tell how the primaries work just from looking at them
18:51:36  <Sylf> All primaries requiring passengers
18:51:36  <lol> but if the server doesn't like downloading it my way can you try to download it the normal way if you upload it
18:52:00  <lol> you can connect all primairies, but they won't grow their production
18:52:18  <Sylf> The normal way is by using the wget
18:52:26  <lol> what is wget?
18:52:34  <lol> downloadlink?
18:52:35  <Sylf> Which is called when I use !getsave
18:52:58  <lol> would megashare work?
18:53:27  <Sylf> Never tried it
18:53:47  <Mark> get dropbox
18:54:08  <Sylf> Or box.net should work too
18:55:00  <Sylf> It should be easier to get a direct download link
18:55:27  <Sylf> Should/ needs to
18:56:29  <lol> i will make a dropbox
18:58:49  <lol> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b36zk67m3jvbtfl/map%20psg%20lol.sav?dl=0
18:58:54  <lol> maybe this will work?
19:06:02  <Mark> you need to place it in the public folder
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19:07:33  <lol_> @logs
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19:09:46  <lol_> from the public server or the public folder from my own dropbox?
19:13:11  <lol_> i don't get what i need to do
19:13:24  <lol_> !pw
19:13:24  <coopserver> lol_: subset
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19:29:42  <lol_> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/aguqxhiqpiexg5h/AADILBTxV5a2bjby07rCRck3a?dl=0
19:34:57  <Mark> so you'd need to take pax to a primary to have it increase production?
19:36:44  <lol_> yeah
19:36:51  <lol_> or change code
19:37:13  <lol_> i know the map is missing the upper secundairies but we can fund them later
19:37:39  <lol_> i saw you can only have very few of them so i made none
19:39:44  <Sylf> Change code?
19:39:50  <lol_> of grf
19:40:04  <lol_> in openttd all things are possible isn't it
19:40:08  <Sylf> Where's the code?
19:40:25  <lol_> can't you get that from the grf?
19:40:25  <Sylf> Not if the source is available
19:40:29  <Sylf> No
19:40:34  <lol_> maybe not then
19:41:19  <lol_> maybe it is somewhere in here
19:41:20  <lol_> https://svn.novapolis.net/novapolis/browser/novapolis#src
19:41:22  <Webster> Title: novapolis – novapolis (at svn.novapolis.net)
19:41:32  <lol_> since it is from novapolis, but i don't think so
19:42:07  <lol_> no it isn't
19:42:11  <lol_> so we have to live with it
19:42:34  <happpy> yer  that web sit  is  Untrusted
19:43:40  <Sylf> That makes no difference
19:44:30  <Sylf> That svn only has the patched version of openttd itself, I think
19:45:35  <lol_> i think so too
19:52:05  <Mark> what the hell is novapolis
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19:52:24  <happpy> so   Inconsistent size
19:53:57  <Sylf> novapolis was one of openttd communities
19:54:23  <Sylf> The ran a few goal based servers
19:58:10  <Sylf> It might be fun to play a Busy Bee game script game
19:58:27  <lol_> they are replaced by citymania
19:58:32  <Sylf> And connect all towns and industries
19:58:37  <lol_> they have some unique servers
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19:59:07  <lol_> like playing for quests, really challanging if you reach a high lvl
19:59:35  <happpy> yer  u  just  need to  fixs   Inconsistent size
19:59:42  <happpy> then  it shord woek
20:00:47  <lol_> is is still inconsistent
20:00:51  <lol_> my pc can load it
20:00:55  <Sylf> It's not that simple, happy
20:01:20  <happpy> k
20:02:01  <lol_> can it be that i build in another nightlyversion?
20:02:09  <Sylf> And it's not "still" a problem
20:02:17  <Sylf> It was a different error
20:02:48  <Sylf> Was it a newer version?
20:03:56  <Sylf> Save files are always backward compatible, but almost never forward compatible
20:04:25  <Sylf> Oh yeah
20:04:31  <lol_> i used the same version as the public server atm
20:04:48  <Sylf> Welcome server is running 1.5.3-RC1
20:04:56  <Sylf> That's why
20:05:03  <lol_> i can make it in that version
20:05:13  <lol_> but then i need to check all parameters
20:05:19  <Sylf> I should have caught that sooner
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