Log for #openttdcoop on 14th April 2016:
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11:34:56  <happpymoblic> !players
11:34:56  <coopserver> happpymoblic: The server is empty, noone is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation
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11:39:10  <DyeH> I just found this channel on it's wiki... does this group still run games?
11:39:49  <DyeH> I was hoping to find some decent players to coop with.
11:43:30  <DyeH> @quickstar
11:43:35  <DyeH> @quickstart
11:43:36  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop wiki -
11:43:43  <DyeH> !help
11:43:43  <coopserver> DyeH:
11:44:09  <DyeH> !playercount
11:44:09  <coopserver> DyeH: The server is empty, noone is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation
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12:08:25  <tyteen4a03> DyeH: yes
12:09:02  <DyeH> That's good to hear
12:09:34  <DyeH> I'm guessing during working hours it's not that busy
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12:53:44  <happpy> hi  DyeH
12:53:50  <happpy> hi tyteen4a03
12:53:55  <DyeH> hi Happpy
12:54:03  <happpy> how things
12:54:16  <DyeH> Not too bad, just enjoying a few days off work and no wife :)
12:54:29  <happpy> nice
12:55:59  <DyeH> just getting a bit bored of playing ottd by myself
12:56:55  <DyeH> how's things with yourself?
13:24:35  <happpy> good
13:25:02  <happpy> been  doing  this game
13:25:03  <Webster> Title: CC: ShockWave mod for CC Generals: Zero Hour - Mod DB (at
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15:02:38  <tyteen4a03> !pw
15:02:38  <coopserver> tyteen4a03: dinger
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15:27:56  <happpymoblic> !players
15:27:56  <coopserver> happpymoblic: There are currently 1 players and 0 spectators, making a total of 1 clients connected
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15:54:42  <Jam35> !pw
15:54:42  <coopserver> Jam35: packed
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15:55:15  <V453000> heyo Jam35
15:55:25  <Jam35> hello
15:55:37  <Jam35> hows you?
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15:56:16  <DyeH> hey all, <-- never played on these servers before. I read the wiki, do I just join the server?
15:56:20  <Jam35> and when are you back on the grfs?
15:56:30  <Jam35> join right now! :)
15:56:41  <Jam35> you need
15:56:44  <Jam35> !dl
15:56:44  <coopserver> Jam35: !download lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
15:56:45  <coopserver> Jam35:
15:56:51  <Jam35> correct version
15:56:55  <V453000> I am great but super busy - moving etc
15:57:07  <Jam35> oh moving, closer to work?
15:57:34  <Jam35> I thought you said it was a long commute before
15:58:22  <coopserver> <Jam35> hi tyteen4a03
15:58:23  <V453000> yeah now we live in Prague so it is like 40min by bus/metro
15:58:29  <tyteen4a03> hey Jam35
15:58:32  <V453000> instead of 2 hrs total
15:58:49  <V453000> mainly, driving on the highway for an hour every day is just insanely tiring because you need to concentrate etc
15:58:55  <V453000> so yeah, good stuff
15:58:56  <Jam35> an improvement yes
15:59:13  <V453000> now I am working hardcore mode on factorio graphics, at least until we release 0.13
15:59:16  <Jam35> indeed, just got home from that myself
15:59:20  <V453000> :) yeah
15:59:37  <V453000> ps, will be making new graphics for factorio locomotive :P
15:59:50  <tyteen4a03> I've been meaning to try factorio
15:59:56  <DyeH> Uhm... can't find the command to get the server ip :/
16:00:02  <tyteen4a03> !ip
16:00:02  <coopserver> tyteen4a03:
16:00:02  <Jam35> oh right, I have not played the game but seen some vids
16:00:11  <tyteen4a03> DyeH: or search for it in multiplayer
16:00:18  <Jam35> !ip
16:00:18  <coopserver> Jam35:
16:00:25  <Jam35> type that in add server box
16:00:30  <DyeH> thanks
16:00:38  <V453000> it is insane, and with the next version it will be miles better
16:00:42  <Jam35> not the Jam35 ofc :P
16:00:56  <Jam35> I am seriously tempted
16:00:59  <V453000> but I will be back to openttd newgrfs in June hopefully
16:01:08  <Jam35> need to find more time to play stuff
16:01:24  <V453000> I think everybody who enjoys playing on openttdcoop is in great danger of loving factorio
16:01:30  <Jam35> I lurk here a lot isn't the same as playing
16:01:31  <V453000> and factorio eats your time and soul
16:01:38  <Jam35> yeah it looks like I would enjoy
16:01:44  <DyeH> !pw
16:01:44  <coopserver> DyeH: packed
16:03:11  <V453000> how is Jam35 ?
16:03:45  <Jam35> ok I guess
16:03:53  <V453000> XD
16:04:42  <Jam35> I have a relative in hospital which is worrying
16:04:59  <Jam35> she is in her nineties and has been quite ill
16:05:14  <Jam35> that is on my mind
16:05:18  <Jam35> I am ok
16:05:21  <V453000> o, well that's quite shit
16:05:25  <Jam35> indeed
16:05:33  <absolutis> Speaking of games that eat your time and soul, i'm planning to get into mtg
16:05:40  <absolutis> !dl win64
16:05:40  <coopserver> absolutis:
16:05:44  <V453000> mtg?
16:06:22  <Jam35> DyeH, what's happening? :)
16:06:26  <absolutis> magic the gathering
16:06:32  <V453000> xd
16:07:13  <absolutis> !password
16:07:13  <coopserver> absolutis: packed
16:07:21  <Jam35> mtg nerdz :D
16:07:30  <Jam35> not like here AT ALL
16:07:56  <V453000> AT ALL
16:08:22  <DyeH> Cant download grf DB Set v0.82 :(
16:08:29  <Jam35> aha
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16:08:32  <Jam35> !grf
16:08:32  <coopserver> Jam35:
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16:08:44  <DyeH> !grf
16:08:44  <coopserver> DyeH:
16:08:44  <Jam35> unpack that into grf folder
16:09:02  <DyeH> got ya, thanks Jam
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16:14:35  <DyeH> !pw
16:14:35  <coopserver> DyeH: formal
16:14:48  <V453000> Jam35: PZ tonite?
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16:15:25  <Jam35> oh maybe yes
16:15:49  <Jam35> did you read any of that activity
16:15:51  <Jam35> ?
16:15:54  <V453000> ?
16:16:06  <Jam35> you left the game unpaused
16:16:12  <V453000> XD
16:16:12  <DyeH> !help
16:16:12  <coopserver> DyeH:
16:16:17  <Jam35> it jammed and all the industries died
16:16:20  <V453000> like even with 0 clients?
16:16:24  <Jam35> yeah
16:16:31  <V453000> xd
16:16:34  <Jam35> somehow,
16:16:35  <V453000> sorry :D
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16:16:52  <Jam35> you reloaded the game, you must have that setting
16:17:03  <V453000> apparently
16:17:05  <DyeH> !pw
16:17:05  <coopserver> DyeH: formal
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16:17:11  <V453000> I reloaded because I accidentally nuked a forest
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16:17:31  <Jam35> Maraxus and I spent some time getting it back to 'normal'
16:18:18  <V453000> omg game broken to shit on windows 10
16:18:26  <V453000> something to do with the resolution resizing feature
16:18:44  <DyeH> looks fine to me on win10
16:18:52  <V453000> somebody from microsoft should go to jail for that shit
16:18:58  <DyeH> Although I have no idea where to start making head or tail of this network :)
16:19:57  <V453000> k worked
16:20:02  <V453000> window resizing it was
16:20:14  <V453000> hehe, it takes a while yeah :P
16:21:16  <V453000> playing on a laptop with just fullHD justifies using more zoom levels than x1 tbh
16:21:23  <V453000> can't imagine the shit with 4K laptop
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16:22:07  <V453000> so yeah brix XD
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16:22:35  <coopserver> <tyteen4a03> openttd in 4k sounds interesting
16:25:28  <V453000> Jam35: PZ too laggy for my laptop, maybe tomorrow when I am at a PC :P
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16:36:21  <coopserver> <Jam35> Its a pretty standard cargo game DyeH
16:36:37  <coopserver> <Jam35> we generally have one drop per cargo
16:36:48  <coopserver> <Jam35> is the sam here
16:36:52  <coopserver> <Dyeh> yah I'm starting to see how it's all put together
16:37:16  <coopserver> <Dyeh> just so many different styles and prios I hadn't even considered using before that are a bit baffling :)
16:37:30  <coopserver> <Jam35> we don't take pax or mail and n this map valuables
16:37:36  <coopserver> <Jam35> oh ok, well just ask
16:38:08  <coopserver> <Jam35> and those oil rigs are ugly
16:38:16  <coopserver> <Dyeh> very
16:38:26  <coopserver> <tyteen4a03> /me hides
16:38:35  <coopserver> <tyteen4a03> oh there's no /me in ingame chat
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16:38:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> multiple industry per town does that
16:39:00  <coopserver> <Jam35> not funding industries
16:39:43  <coopserver> <Jam35> can I help with baffling stuff?
16:39:47  <coopserver> <Jam35> point at somethign
16:39:59  <coopserver> <Dyeh> yeah sure, hmm how do I get coords
16:40:04  <coopserver> <Jam35> maybe we can explain
16:40:08  <coopserver> <Jam35> place sign
16:40:14  <coopserver> <Jam35> A then O key
16:40:38  <coopserver> <Dyeh> Just placed it "Can you help explain this"
16:41:17  <coopserver> <Dyeh> I can see it's a waiting bay
16:41:20  <coopserver> <Jam35> it's an overflow for the pickup station
16:41:55  <coopserver> <Dyeh> Right ok... I can see it working, I'm just trying to get my head round the logic
16:42:03  <coopserver> <tyteen4a03> (there's a simpler one around Arveen's stations)
16:42:08  <happpymoblic> overflow help to stop a train  dedlock on the net work
16:42:08  <coopserver> <Jam35> so if A nd B are occupied train enters the overflow
16:42:30  <coopserver> <Jam35> then is the reverser
16:42:40  <coopserver> <Dyeh> Gotcha... yeah, the reverser is kind of cool
16:42:55  <coopserver> <Jam35> this 'hides' the depot from the pathfinder
16:43:30  <coopserver> <Jam35> we don't want trains to see depots here
16:43:44  <coopserver> <Jam35> they like to go to wrong ones frequently, if we need them to
16:43:59  <coopserver> <Jam35> so we dictate when they go there
16:44:00  <coopserver> <Dyeh> ahhh no I understand what that meant when I was reading on the wiki earlier
16:45:17  <coopserver> <Jam35> the release from the overflow is controlled by 'ENTRY'
16:45:33  <coopserver> <Jam35> which shows green if all of 1234 are green
16:45:56  <coopserver> <Jam35> 4 sees the A and B waiting bays ofc
16:46:18  <coopserver> <Jam35> this prevents trains from blocking basically
16:46:40  <coopserver> <Dyeh> yeah ok, thanks for the explanation
16:47:07  <coopserver> <Dyeh> it's starting to make alot of sense, and the lack of blockages with high volumes proves it
16:47:26  <coopserver> <Jam35> no probs, yes they are useful
16:47:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> see the 3 ABR articles for more depth :)
16:48:00  <Jam35> @abr
16:48:03  <coopserver> <Dyeh> Will do, going to build some of those on my single player I think :)
16:48:33  <Jam35> @abr04
16:48:34  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 04: Overflows at #openttdcoop -
16:50:18  <coopserver> <Jam35> hey, you can build them here :P
16:50:30  <coopserver> <Jam35> what is SP? :D
16:51:42  <coopserver> <Jam35> we often have plans and voting so people have choices as to game type
16:51:44  <coopserver> <Dyeh> What was that,?
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16:51:53  <coopserver> <Dyeh> I was reading the article :
16:51:56  <coopserver> <Jam35> not here though
16:52:25  <coopserver> <Jam35> press ` :)
16:52:28  <coopserver> <Dyeh> Iok :
16:52:35  <coopserver> <Jam35> or see irc :P
16:53:58  <coopserver> <Dyeh> you know I only really started playing mp this last week... after being a big fan of this game for nearly 9 years!
16:54:10  <coopserver> <Dyeh> after tt ofc
16:55:16  <Jam35> I was the same
16:55:38  <Jam35> at least, it took a long time to discover coop
16:56:02  <Jam35> I didn't really like the servers that I had visited
16:56:17  <tyteen4a03> I'm not aware of any other coop servers
16:56:23  <tyteen4a03> I didn't like competition
16:56:53  <Jam35> me too I think
16:57:38  <Jam35> I was seeing huge areas of bought land and huge patches of rail with the purpose of blocking/preventing stuff to be built
16:57:47  <coopserver> <Dyeh> yeah, when I found the wiki this morning I thought I'd struck gold lol
16:58:02  <coopserver> <Dyeh> The build your population servers where a bit meh
16:58:19  <coopserver> <Dyeh> and the reddit coop was more like beat the crap out of each other for building anything
16:59:21  <Jam35> all we do here is focus on network efficiency
16:59:34  <coopserver> <Dyeh> I can see, it looks awesome
17:00:11  <Jam35> we don't care about money other goals
17:00:32  <tyteen4a03> ultimately I'd like to try mixed freight/people/mail but this cool
17:00:53  <coopserver> <Dyeh> I usually build people/mail networks
17:01:02  <coopserver> <Dyeh> with mixed freight for town growth only
17:01:04  <Jam35> you could treat the pax as freight :)
17:01:22  <coopserver> <Dyeh> hehe
17:01:28  <Jam35> with the right train set e.g NUTS
17:01:46  <tyteen4a03> that sounds fun
17:01:47  <coopserver> <Dyeh> I've not tried NUTS out
17:01:55  <coopserver> <Dyeh> played around with FIRS quite a bit
17:02:01  <Jam35> trains are compatible with any cargo
17:02:27  <Jam35> FIRS is great too
17:02:51  <Jam35> but it has way too many cargoes :)
17:03:09  <coopserver> <Dyeh> way way too many
17:03:17  <Jam35> It's super hard to use all of them
17:03:18  <V453000> the sub economies are actually nice
17:03:36  <Jam35> I was just about to say
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17:04:04  <coopserver> <Dyeh> So... on this map... there's a spot that I can see isn't as efficient as it could be
17:04:24  <coopserver> <Jam35> many I expect, we need expansion
17:04:53  <coopserver> <Jam35> you mean Kiwalik?
17:04:59  <coopserver> <Jam35> where the jamming is?
17:05:15  <coopserver> <Dyeh> yeah
17:05:48  <coopserver> <Jam35> it needs another exit line there
17:05:53  <coopserver> <Jam35> 4th line
17:06:07  <coopserver> <Dyeh> yeah it does
17:06:15  <coopserver> <Dyeh> 3 isn't enough for capacity
17:06:59  <coopserver> <Jam35> I wonder if we could do some hacks?
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17:18:54  <DyeH> I would but my wife has just got home in a very foul mood...
17:19:23  <DyeH> looks like my play time is now non existent :(
17:19:40  <coopserver> <Jam35> lol
17:19:55  <absolutis> wife aggro
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17:21:37  <DyeH> anyways maybe another time, thanks for showing me around Jam
17:21:56  <coopserver> <Jam35> no probs cya soon
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17:29:42  <coopserver> <Jam35> hax is working I think
17:29:52  <coopserver> <Jam35> and I cant even see where I moved the jam to
17:29:58  <coopserver> <Jam35> heh
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17:30:49  <coopserver> <Jam35> speaks too soon
17:31:13  <coopserver> <Jam35> not too bad
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17:43:33  <Arveen> !players
17:43:33  <coopserver> Arveen: There are currently 0 players and 1 spectators, making a total of 1 clients connected
17:43:47  <Arveen> !pw
17:43:47  <coopserver> Arveen: bother
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18:43:19  <DyeH> !pw
18:43:19  <coopserver> DyeH: itrpos
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18:46:31  <coopserver> <Dyeh> Kiwalik looks a lot better
18:48:24  <coopserver> <Jam35> needs 4th out at MSH 04 now
18:48:59  <coopserver> <Jam35> or at least better choices there
18:49:17  <coopserver> <Dyeh> there's not much room there
18:49:33  <coopserver> <Jam35> would have to make some ye
18:49:58  <coopserver> <Jam35> biab
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19:01:12  <coopserver> <Dyeh> Are you sure about MSH04, I can only see 6 trains using it. They all come in on the top lane as well, nothing ever from the middle.
19:05:08  <coopserver> <Jam35> sorry where are we looking?
19:06:02  <coopserver> <Jam35> over 200 trains use that hub :)
19:06:20  <coopserver> <Jam35> to Oil drop/pick
19:06:45  <coopserver> <Jam35> I don't understand your meaning
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19:09:22  <DyeH> Im looking in the wrong place then...
19:09:47  <coopserver> <Jam35> you know about the sign list?
19:09:52  <DyeH> nope
19:10:00  <coopserver> <Jam35> hold map button
19:10:05  <coopserver> <Jam35> sign list
19:10:19  <DyeH> got it, thanks... I was looking at the sign "MSH04/Jam35"
19:10:43  <DyeH> North of Kiwalik
19:10:59  <coopserver> <Jam35> um I don't see that :P
19:11:05  <DyeH> :/ ok
19:11:15  <coopserver> <Jam35> MSH 04 / Mark
19:11:33  <DyeH> Damn it... you're right...
19:11:43  <DyeH> was watching that split for 15 minutes
19:11:44  <coopserver> <Jam35>  yeah same thing
19:11:45  <DyeH> lols
19:11:53  <coopserver> <Jam35> which split though
19:12:08  <coopserver> <Jam35> I am talking about the trains heading to refinery
19:12:14  <DyeH> yep I see where you meant now
19:12:32  <DyeH> my bad, not the same place, I was watching MSH04/Mark
19:12:51  <DyeH> and trains heading north over the bridges
19:13:00  <coopserver> <Jam35> that direction is quiet
19:13:14  <coopserver> <Jam35> should have specified direction
19:13:21  <coopserver> <Jam35> MSH 04 is the whole thing
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19:13:55  <coopserver> <Jam35> it's hard to read the network at first
19:14:10  <coopserver> <Jam35> trying to distinguish between ML and SL or whatever
19:14:21  <coopserver> <Jam35> expecially when it's all clumped together like this
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