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00:01:51 <Ethereal_Whisper> Ugh my IRC bouncer is messed up 00:03:36 <Ethereal_Whisper> Oh. Logged into hosting company's website to reboot it. "Important: Hardware failure on uswla-node2.hostplus.com Los Angeles-USA" 00:03:45 <Ethereal_Whisper> Whoops. 00:04:23 <Clockworker__> RIP 00:05:44 <happpy> yep rip 00:06:13 <happpy> gn 00:06:18 <Ethereal_Whisper> Ah well, I have playoff hockey 00:06:40 *** happpy has left #openttdcoop 00:35:49 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 00:40:34 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 00:57:19 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 00:57:32 <tyteen4a03> !pw 00:57:32 <coopserver> tyteen4a03: module 00:57:37 <tyteen4a03> !pw 00:57:37 <coopserver> tyteen4a03: module 00:57:43 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 00:57:44 <coopserver> *** tyteen4a03 has joined 00:57:45 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:57:46 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 01:07:39 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 01:15:44 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 01:20:39 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 01:26:17 *** liq3 has joined #openttdcoop 01:27:39 *** liq3 has quit IRC 01:28:45 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 01:37:26 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 01:45:29 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 01:49:30 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 02:03:28 <coopserver> *** tyteen4a03 has left the game (general timeout) 02:03:43 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 02:03:43 <tyteen4a03> test 02:03:43 <tyteen4a03> !pw 02:03:43 <coopserver> tyteen4a03: korean 02:04:29 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 02:04:30 <coopserver> *** tyteen4a03 has joined 02:04:31 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 02:04:32 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 02:10:03 <coopserver> *** tyteen4a03 has left the game (general timeout) 02:10:04 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 04:02:39 * SCRUB_MEECH slaps tyteen4a03 around a bit with a large fishbot 04:08:06 *** Clockworker__ is now known as BiG_CW_MF 04:12:59 <SCRUB_MEECH> lol 04:13:05 * SCRUB_MEECH slaps BiG_CW_MF around a bit with a large fishbot 04:13:07 * SCRUB_MEECH slaps BiG_CW_MF around a bit with a large fishbot 04:14:10 <BiG_CW_MF> f i s h b o y 04:14:21 <SCRUB_MEECH> mmhmm 04:14:30 <SCRUB_MEECH> doing epic shiz in welcome server :D 04:15:23 <BiG_CW_MF> haha 04:15:28 <BiG_CW_MF> I'm not crazy about it 04:15:32 <SCRUB_MEECH> BiG_FISH'N 04:15:37 <SCRUB_MEECH> yeah, me either 04:15:37 <BiG_CW_MF> there's no lasting legacy 04:15:40 <SCRUB_MEECH> especially at 12am 04:15:57 <BiG_CW_MF> and some of the rules irk me 04:16:02 <SCRUB_MEECH> but its nice to send all of happy's money to another company 04:16:13 <BiG_CW_MF> lol 04:17:26 <SCRUB_MEECH> he doesnt find out until its too late 04:17:28 <SCRUB_MEECH> BUHAHAHA 04:20:03 * SCRUB_MEECH slaps BiG_CW_MF around a bit with a large fishbot 04:20:11 <SCRUB_MEECH> you gonna play here in PS ? 04:47:09 <BiG_CW_MF> yeah when the new map is up 04:50:21 <SCRUB_MEECH> nice 04:50:26 <SCRUB_MEECH> !players 04:50:26 <coopserver> SCRUB_MEECH: The server is empty, noone is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation 04:50:29 <SCRUB_MEECH> :o 04:50:42 <SCRUB_MEECH> you're not playing! You're a troll! :o 04:50:56 *** SCRUB_MEECH is now known as TROLL_MEECH 04:51:11 <BiG_CW_MF> like I said 04:51:14 <BiG_CW_MF> when the new map is up 04:51:18 <TROLL_MEECH> pfft 04:51:46 <TROLL_MEECH> !pw 04:51:46 <coopserver> TROLL_MEECH: mapgen 04:51:52 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 04:52:00 <coopserver> *** BiG_MEECH has joined 04:52:01 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 04:52:31 <TROLL_MEECH> OH 04:52:35 <TROLL_MEECH> I thought the new map was loaded 04:52:36 <TROLL_MEECH> DUH 04:52:52 <coopserver> *** BiG_MEECH has left the game (Leaving) 04:52:58 <TROLL_MEECH> MEECH FAIL 04:57:52 <BiG_CW_MF> BiG_DUMBASS 04:57:56 <TROLL_MEECH> lol 04:58:06 <TROLL_MEECH> I guess I just read what I want to 04:58:22 <TROLL_MEECH> its like blah blah blah blah blah blah new map 04:58:25 <TROLL_MEECH> and I'm like 04:58:29 <TROLL_MEECH> FUCK NEW MAP????????!! 05:01:50 *** Clockworker_ has joined #openttdcoop 05:01:50 *** BiG_CW_MF has quit IRC 05:48:19 <tyteen4a03> !pw 05:48:19 <coopserver> tyteen4a03: looked 05:48:24 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 05:48:25 <coopserver> *** tyteen4a03 has joined 05:48:26 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 05:48:27 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 05:48:40 <Clockworker_> that's because 05:48:44 <Clockworker_> you're a cheeky scrublord 06:02:11 <V453000> ! 06:03:14 <Clockworker_> you too 06:03:58 <V453000> ._. 06:21:27 <Ethereal_Whisper> mfw I build a network and realize after the fact that one side of a RoRo station is totally unneeded because there are no pickup stations upstream of it 06:22:47 <V453000> :d 06:22:51 <V453000> happens 06:23:29 <Ethereal_Whisper> I actually just looked again and can use that side of the RoRo for future passenger service 06:23:35 <Ethereal_Whisper> ... wait no it's serving a power plan 06:23:41 <Ethereal_Whisper> nevermind still unnecessary lol 06:30:05 <Clockworker_> regardless of how long we've been playing 06:30:15 <Clockworker_> we all do some dumb things now and then 06:30:39 <Clockworker_> it's common to have to fix someone else's wrong signal or have yours fixed, in coop 06:31:23 <Ethereal_Whisper> Yeah, I built a huge passenger network yesterday and was super proud of it, then watched the whole thing implode because of a single block signal facing the wrong way on accident 06:34:01 <tyteen4a03> oops 06:34:22 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/7CxgQtH.png ... why the hell is this train making a U-turn? 06:34:42 <Clockworker_> pffft 06:34:57 <Clockworker_> you should turn off the option to allow 90 degrees turns 06:35:53 <Ethereal_Whisper> Now it's stuck on the left side platform 06:36:46 <Clockworker_> check path/orders/signalling 06:37:45 <Ethereal_Whisper> I must have a bad junction somewhere downstream... the other train coming from that platform made it out but just returned on the left side 06:39:31 <Ethereal_Whisper> And I made them crash trying to get them back to the start. Whoops 06:43:23 <Ethereal_Whisper> I found my mistake. Herp 06:46:22 <Clockworker_> haha 06:46:38 <Ethereal_Whisper> There was a break in the line downstream 07:02:25 <Clockworker_> oh man 07:02:36 <Clockworker_> neurologist and psychologist one after the other tomorrow 07:02:41 <Clockworker_> feeling so lazy 07:02:43 <Clockworker_> but gotta do it 07:03:33 <Ethereal_Whisper> I'm seeing a counselor tomorrow and I don't want to see her 07:04:50 <Clockworker_> fun huh 07:04:56 <Ethereal_Whisper> Yeah. 07:04:56 <Clockworker_> I don't "don't want to" see her 07:05:03 <Clockworker_> I just hate going out 07:10:53 <tyteen4a03> I have no desire to go to therapist sessions, luckily they were years ago 07:12:41 <Clockworker_> I really don't mind the talk, I actually enjoy it 07:13:05 <Clockworker_> the problem is going, and then trying to turn my life around and failing (^: 07:13:17 <Clockworker_> anyway bed time, toodles 07:13:20 <Ethereal_Whisper> I could share why I don't want to go, but it's pretty personal information and might be a controversial topic 07:13:22 <coopserver> <tyteen4a03> heh 07:13:36 <coopserver> <tyteen4a03> bye 08:46:04 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/L0q2rnI.png not the best junction I've ever built. =/ 08:46:33 <Ethereal_Whisper> 6 side lines connecting to a main line. Have a few tight turns on it D: 09:22:34 <Ethereal_Whisper> Also, that feel when you realize it's faster and more efficient to use a random nearby power plant drop station to reverse a passenger train instead of building extra track because you're low on room 10:35:13 <tyteen4a03> ideally trains should only reverse at the end of the line 10:40:02 <Ethereal_Whisper> True. 10:43:42 <tyteen4a03> you can also consider merging 2 pairs of tracks before they reach the mainline, then you'd have a 4-way instead of a 6-way 10:44:22 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/LroUD8Q.png I think it's about as well as I could have done with the room I had 10:44:53 <tyteen4a03> you may want to copy beeching 10:49:29 *** Hiddenfunstuff has joined #openttdcoop 11:11:10 <Ethereal_Whisper> Found out why some of my passenger trains were occasionally trying to take a side line towards a livestock pickup station... I forgot to install block signals on much of the line they're atually supposed to go down >.> 11:11:31 <hylje> awkward 11:11:43 <Ethereal_Whisper> Yeah 11:11:46 <Ethereal_Whisper> I was like... why the fuck 11:12:05 *** StarLite has joined #openttdcoop 11:12:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o StarLite 11:36:32 *** Tricia has joined #openttdcoop 11:41:15 *** Ethereal_Whisper has quit IRC 11:45:21 *** happpymoblic has quit IRC 11:49:31 *** Tricia is now known as Ethereal_Whisper 12:58:54 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 13:06:47 *** luaduck has joined #openttdcoop 13:13:10 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 13:24:19 <Ethereal_Whisper> I now have every city on my map connected! :D 13:24:24 <hylje> good job! 13:24:42 <Ethereal_Whisper> The eastern half of the map is extremely cramped and some of the lines are very weird 13:26:15 <Ethereal_Whisper> And the eastern end of my east-west trunk is at a station that's probably going to be over capacity soon since I didn't intend to use it as the end of the line initially. The dominoes just fell that way over time, and in the meantime the city has expanded around it a little 13:26:20 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 13:27:29 <Clockworker_> nice 13:27:30 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/dIoBwTg.png it's Frendwood Mines. Think it would be a worth it to build a second terminal with the tracks facing south? 13:28:20 <Ethereal_Whisper> The side line it connects to running north just goes to a passenger-only loop, it wouldn't kill me if the overflow terminal had to not connect to it 13:29:03 <Ethereal_Whisper> Or if you feel like it I could save the game and host it on multiplayer for ideas 13:30:33 <Ethereal_Whisper> Wow this map only has ONE fucking sawmill 13:30:42 <Ethereal_Whisper> I was going to do forests and sawmills next 13:30:43 <Ethereal_Whisper> >.> 13:31:04 <V453000> :) 13:31:04 <Ethereal_Whisper> I'll do that and then fund another one 13:31:29 * Ethereal_Whisper debates what type of drop station to build 13:34:21 <Ethereal_Whisper> Oh I know :D 13:35:58 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/6IQ9wUF.png whatever this one is called 13:36:07 <Ethereal_Whisper> (not signaled yet) 13:47:56 *** absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 13:50:09 <Clockworker_> that's just a simple ro-ro 13:51:25 <Ethereal_Whisper> Ah 13:53:16 <Clockworker_> it's gonna be 33C outside 13:53:18 <Clockworker_> oh god why 13:53:57 <Ethereal_Whisper> I'm from one of the hottest cities with over a million people in the world, your complaints of hot weather fall on deaf ears for me :P 13:54:18 <Clockworker_> but is it humid? 13:54:23 <Clockworker_> because humid heat is worse 13:54:27 <Ethereal_Whisper> Nope, arid 13:54:29 <Ethereal_Whisper> And I know 13:54:33 <Ethereal_Whisper> Phoenix, for the record 13:54:36 <Clockworker_> yeah 13:54:38 <Clockworker_> it's humid here 13:54:50 <Ethereal_Whisper> Today's high is only 31 13:54:56 <Clockworker_> nice little coat of sweat 14:01:32 <Ethereal_Whisper> I don't wear foundation in the summer 14:01:35 <Ethereal_Whisper> Heh 14:05:25 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 14:07:41 <Clockworker_> I mostly never wear a shirt unless I go outside 14:09:06 <Ethereal_Whisper> I wish I could do that 14:09:59 <Clockworker_> you technically can, if you're alone 14:10:59 <Ethereal_Whisper> I suppose I could if I really wanted to 14:11:09 *** happpymoblic has joined #openttdcoop 14:11:12 <Ethereal_Whisper> It's just not much fun 14:12:44 <happpymoblic> !players 14:12:44 <coopserver> happpymoblic: There are currently 1 players and 0 spectators, making a total of 1 clients connected 14:12:46 <Ethereal_Whisper> Isn't it mildly funny when you build a new train and give it proper orders, but you picked a bad depot and it takes an incredibly idiotic route to its first stop? 14:12:52 <happpymoblic> hi all 14:13:04 <Ethereal_Whisper> Hi 14:13:14 <Clockworker_> why would it be fun 14:13:20 <happpymoblic> how things 14:13:21 <Clockworker_> it's meant to be cooler 14:13:22 <Clockworker_> lol 14:13:38 <Ethereal_Whisper> Uh 14:13:54 <Ethereal_Whisper> I could explain it in one word, but I guess that wasn't enough haha 14:19:06 *** happpy has joined #openttdcoop 14:20:29 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 14:52:34 <Ethereal_Whisper> I just used a special depot to clone my entire train fleet and double it 14:52:43 <Ethereal_Whisper> Hope my network can handle the extra strain 15:02:52 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 15:11:29 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 15:25:30 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 15:35:04 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 15:35:42 <TROLL_MEECH> heh 15:43:05 <TROLL_MEECH> usually you don't want to dupe all of your trains in one fell swoop 15:47:19 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 15:47:31 <happpymoblic> thats true meech 15:49:57 <TROLL_MEECH> If i play here in PS, or WS with happy or whomever I'll usually do probabbly not more than 20 new trains at a time 15:50:07 <TROLL_MEECH> otherwise things get messy :D 15:53:50 <happpymoblic> yep true 15:59:21 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 16:18:02 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 16:28:10 *** Arveen has joined #openttdcoop 16:34:23 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 16:42:34 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 16:56:53 <Mark> hiyo 16:59:53 * TROLL_MEECH slaps Mark around a bit with a large fishbot 16:59:55 <TROLL_MEECH> yoyo 17:04:33 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 17:08:42 <V453000> total yo 17:11:08 <Mark> !pw 17:11:08 <coopserver> Mark: caches 17:11:12 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 17:11:14 <coopserver> *** Mark has joined 17:11:15 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 17:11:33 <coopserver> <Mark> tyteen4a03: could you please go to spec when youre inactive? 17:12:49 <coopserver> *** Mark has joined spectators 17:12:58 <coopserver> <Mark> about time for a new game i guess 17:13:11 <coopserver> <Mark> lacking inspiration though 17:13:14 <Mark> !clients 17:13:17 <Mark> !players 17:13:18 <coopserver> Mark: Client 256 (Orange) is tyteen4a03, in company 1 (The Ministry of Truth) 17:13:19 <coopserver> Mark: Spectators: Client 258 (Mark) 17:13:20 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 17:13:22 <Mark> !rcon move 256 255 17:13:23 <coopserver> *** tyteen4a03 has joined spectators 17:13:24 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:19:27 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 17:22:27 * TROLL_MEECH slaps tyteen4a03 around a bit with a large fishbot 17:31:24 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 17:38:48 <Ethereal_Whisper> .8 million on new vehicles in one year, damn 17:39:01 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/FUQqhb4.png 17:39:25 <hylje> expand! 17:39:50 <Ethereal_Whisper> I did. The .8m was using a cloning depot to double my fleet of trains in one go. Lol 17:40:29 <Ethereal_Whisper> I now have 172 trains 17:42:45 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 17:42:59 <Arveen> my current game http://mrftp.mooo.com:20080/tmp/Game.jpg :D 17:46:21 <Ethereal_Whisper> Nice 17:46:43 <Ethereal_Whisper> I'm playing on a map without coastlines or rivers so no ship income for me 17:46:53 <Ethereal_Whisper> There's an oil rig randomly in the corner which I might base an oil network around later 17:47:00 <tyteen4a03> Mark: oops, I fell asleep 17:47:06 <Arveen> im useing the ships as feeders 17:47:14 <coopserver> *** tyteen4a03 has joined company #1 17:47:15 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:48:02 <Ethereal_Whisper> How can I check an offshore oil rig's production? I'm wondering how many ships I need and how many trains will transfer a good amount of it if I build an oil network 17:48:04 <Arveen> like feed one train station with up to 10 oil rigs 17:48:17 <tyteen4a03> click on the rig 17:48:20 <tyteen4a03> under the station 17:48:22 <Arveen> just click on the label 17:48:30 <Ethereal_Whisper> OH 17:48:36 <Ethereal_Whisper> Lol, I was just getting the station 17:48:46 <Ethereal_Whisper> 3170 gallons last month 17:49:46 <Ethereal_Whisper> I'll start with just one ship and 2 trains 17:52:45 <Arveen> thats the biggest one i got in this game http://mrftp.mooo.com:20080/tmp/Oilrigs.jpg 17:52:59 <Ethereal_Whisper> Wow 17:53:13 <Arveen> all oil gets delivered to that top left station 17:53:24 <Arveen> 18 trains picking it up from there :) 17:53:27 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/S9URzYk.png this is all I have 17:53:42 <Arveen> everything starts out small :) 17:53:44 <Ethereal_Whisper> (In the middle of building a RoRo at Ganfield Heliport 17:54:06 <Arveen> im playing this map for like 3 months now 17:54:10 <Ethereal_Whisper> RoRo stations with bypass lines to deliver drops <3 17:54:17 <Arveen> :D 17:54:56 <Ethereal_Whisper> Especially when you build one only to discover that one side is totally unnecessary because there are no pickup stations upstream of it in that directon 17:55:00 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 17:55:08 <Ethereal_Whisper> #rekt 17:55:27 <Arveen> well there maybe some in the future 17:55:57 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/AuFKzXr.png 17:56:09 <Ethereal_Whisper> No coal mines to be found there 17:56:21 <Ethereal_Whisper> I don't think I can fund resource sources can I? 17:56:32 <Arveen> it can be enabled in the settings 17:56:42 <Arveen> but besides that the game builds new ones itself over the years 17:56:57 <Arveen> also closes unused ones 17:57:20 <Ethereal_Whisper> I've also discovered that oil wells eventually dry up 17:57:31 <Arveen> yeah 17:57:45 <Arveen> i also had mines close on me with good service 17:57:48 <Jam35> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51134233/999.png 17:57:53 <Jam35> this is legit 17:57:56 <Ethereal_Whisper> I kept getting a message that some train had a negative profit and ignored it for a few years, then finally clicked on it and saw it was sitting at a station no longer next to anything and was an oil tanker train 17:57:59 <Jam35> don't ask :D 17:58:01 <Arveen> this is also crazy :P 17:58:18 <Ethereal_Whisper> Arveen: hey, I just met you, and this is crazy 17:58:25 <Ethereal_Whisper> But here's my number, so call me maybe? 17:59:00 <Arveen> does it overflow after 999.999.999.999.999 ? 17:59:08 <Jam35> no 17:59:12 <Arveen> also nice year @ 3061 17:59:19 <Arveen> my longest game ever was like 26xx 17:59:27 <Jam35> started in 1970 ish 17:59:39 <Jam35> I only ever played one game 17:59:47 <Jam35> when I first started 18:00:00 <Arveen> how many trains are in this one ? 18:00:10 <Jam35> only 1500 ish 18:00:11 *** absolutis has quit IRC 18:00:13 <Arveen> oh 18:00:18 <Arveen> map size ? 18:00:31 <Jam35> er idk actually 18:00:45 <Jam35> I think 1034x1024 18:00:51 <Arveen> the one i posted is a 1024x1024 map and like half full 18:01:21 <Jam35> I would post a save but it is embarassing :D 18:01:28 <Arveen> what are you doing for 8628 "other" expenses 18:01:35 <V453000> sayvvvv 18:01:37 <Arveen> for rigging the finances - haha 18:01:51 <Jam35> I have no idea what goes in there 18:02:37 <Jam35> it is 512x512 18:03:22 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://puu.sh/on4k6/bafdf80abf.sav this is my save if anyone's interested 18:03:39 <Arveen> lets take a look ;D 18:04:55 <Jam35> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51134233/map.png 18:05:05 <Arveen> looks nice - no jams 18:05:46 <Ethereal_Whisper> Eh, just found one on the east-west trunk. A side line is too small for that many trains at a pickup station that the queue to get into it was blocking my east-west trunk 18:06:00 <Ethereal_Whisper> Stupid farm being so close to my trunk 18:06:08 <Arveen> you could build some bus services in the cities to feed their train stations 18:06:22 <Ethereal_Whisper> I could, if I cared for money 18:06:35 <Ethereal_Whisper> I have plenty of it as you can see :) 18:06:40 <Arveen> yeah 18:06:47 <Arveen> but still 18:06:54 <Ethereal_Whisper> Normally I'm not used to seeing 8 figures unless I cheated 18:06:59 <Arveen> just to fill up those trains 18:07:00 <Ethereal_Whisper> I legitimately did not cheat at all in this game 18:07:15 <Ethereal_Whisper> I should clone all the passenger trains I have 18:07:31 <Arveen> oh there is a big jam 18:07:35 <Ethereal_Whisper> Before going to hospital this morning I went through and cloned every single train I had 18:07:39 <Arveen> fort frutway 18:07:56 <Arveen> nice map @ jam35 18:08:00 <Arveen> ill get one from my game - sec 18:08:22 <Ethereal_Whisper> hm, I'm not seeing the jam here 18:08:36 <Ethereal_Whisper> That's an extremely high-capacity terminus station, I'm surprised there was one 18:09:54 <Arveen> http://mrftp.mooo.com:20080/tmp/Map.jpg 18:10:05 <Arveen> well not half full - maybe 40%'ish 18:10:15 <Arveen> ~700 trains so far tho 18:10:23 <Ethereal_Whisper> I think I found a good way to kill time 18:10:29 <Ethereal_Whisper> Convert my entire network to electric 18:10:32 <Arveen> :D 18:10:38 <Ethereal_Whisper> It's 2003 in-game, that would be handy 18:11:09 <Ethereal_Whisper> Monorail would be better technically, but if I try to do that I'll blow everything up 18:11:28 <Arveen> well there is the rail upgrade tool which makes it pretty easy 18:11:43 <Arveen> just replacing the trains can be a pita 18:11:50 <Ethereal_Whisper> True, but my diesel trains can run on the electrified track in the meantime 18:12:19 <Arveen> i like to use the nuts rails or the universal rail road grf 18:12:43 <Ethereal_Whisper> Uhhh... where's the convert rail tool again? 18:13:00 <Arveen> last or 2nd last icon in the build rail menu 18:13:07 <Ethereal_Whisper> Oh, fail, I can't read 18:13:10 <Arveen> its like a rail with an yellow arrow 18:13:12 <Arveen> or some 18:13:15 <Arveen> *or so 18:13:39 <Ethereal_Whisper> Yeah I found it 18:13:49 <Ethereal_Whisper> Don't I have to rebuild all the depots too? 18:13:51 <Arveen> this also upgrade rail in depots and stations 18:14:27 <Ethereal_Whisper> Now to upgrade all 173 of my trains... 18:14:38 <Ethereal_Whisper> This is going to take me a while. 18:14:39 <Arveen> there is an auto replace feature 18:14:50 <Ethereal_Whisper> Eh? 18:15:06 <Arveen> go to the train menu where you can see all trains 18:15:32 <Ethereal_Whisper> Oh I see 18:15:48 <Arveen> you specify an current locomotive or wagons and then set an upgrade one 18:16:01 <Arveen> once the train enters the depot for service or forced they get replaced/upgraded 18:16:48 <Ethereal_Whisper> Damnit, the faster locomotive is a size 1 and the size 0.5 locomotive is only 10mph faster than what I currently have 18:17:03 <Ethereal_Whisper> Would enabling car removal shrink them all by 1 car automatically to compensate? 18:17:54 <Arveen> this feature removes wagons if the train length increases due to lets say switching to a dual headed locomotive so the train length stays the same 18:18:01 <Ethereal_Whisper> Ah okay 18:18:01 <Arveen> it doesnt add afaik 18:18:04 <Ethereal_Whisper> Well, here goes nothing 18:18:35 <Ethereal_Whisper> I should read tooltips before asking stupid questions 18:18:37 <Ethereal_Whisper> :P 18:18:40 <Arveen> np :) 18:19:55 <Ethereal_Whisper> Would there eventually be a streamlined way to replace electrified rail and trains with monorails or maglevs, or will that just be a giant pain in the ass when it happens? 18:20:13 <Arveen> when useing universal rail its no problem - works the same way 18:20:48 <Arveen> without im not sure - i think i started useing univesal rail because it was a pain to hand-upgrade to mono or maglev 18:22:31 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/x8RfBJQ.png and now I have a giant traffic jam due to the faster trains lol 18:22:49 <Arveen> hehe 18:23:07 <Ethereal_Whisper> Maybe it's just growing pains if they had to go to a strangely-located depot before getting back on track 18:23:09 <Arveen> faster trains also means more cargo transported on average 18:23:25 <Arveen> so you might need fewer trains for some industries/cities 18:23:25 <Ethereal_Whisper> I play with maintenance/breakdowns off so I put depots wherever to build trains, and then they get ignored otherwise 18:24:00 <Ethereal_Whisper> The jam cleared a bit... let's see if it stays that way 18:24:39 <Arveen> when i upgraded from a ~220kmh locomotive to a ~400kmh locomotive i removed almost 1/3 of the trains 18:26:19 <Ethereal_Whisper> Yeah, I think upgrading to electric has pushed my network to its capacity 18:26:42 <Ethereal_Whisper> I see minor jams occasionally now, but it's not terrible now that the initial shock of trains going strange places to find a depot to upgrade looks to be over 18:27:28 <Ethereal_Whisper> Ok so I have another question which may be dumb 18:27:29 <Arveen> yeah when i upgraded i had like 2 years of jams and losses till the network unjamed 18:28:13 <Ethereal_Whisper> So I've got a few RoRo stations with bypass lines. I've heard/read about stuff like "right of way" and was wondering if I could signal the station to give priority to a train coming through on the bypass line and make trains wait to get out of the station 18:28:36 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/L9Gx3Cs.png i.e. this one 18:29:29 <Arveen> there are no signals at the entry ? 18:29:56 <hylje> you can convey signal information further away using a non-line rail and pre/combo signals 18:29:58 <Ethereal_Whisper> Oh there are, hang on 18:30:24 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/cANz9ym.png 18:30:25 <Arveen> and yeah you could build an priority check to the exit to make leaving trains wait 18:30:49 <hylje> so you can make the lower priority track wait until there's enough unoccupied signal blocks around it 18:33:06 <Arveen> hmm i dont see any 18:33:14 <Arveen> im thinking : http://mrftp.mooo.com:20080/tmp/Signals.jpg 18:33:46 <Arveen> and yeah a combo in the branch maybe 18:33:54 <Ethereal_Whisper> I have a more pressing one now... I just tried the Universal Rail GRF and tried to upgrade everything to monorails... it wasn't able to convert anything the trains were already on and made everything blow up 18:33:58 <Ethereal_Whisper> I'm glad I saved first 18:34:00 <Ethereal_Whisper> Lol 18:34:07 <Ethereal_Whisper> (I mean I had to, to enable it anyway) 18:34:35 <hylje> depot your trains before wielding the upgrade brush 18:34:40 <Ethereal_Whisper> Ah cheers 18:34:49 <Ethereal_Whisper> Any way to do that non-manually, hylje? 18:34:53 <Arveen> aye - send everything to the depot - then start the upgrade galore 18:35:00 <hylje> there's a button somewhere to send absolutely everything to depot 18:35:27 <Arveen> there is replace vechicle - send to depot - send to service in that menu 18:37:38 <Ethereal_Whisper> Found it 18:37:50 <Ethereal_Whisper> Now to just wait for everything to stop running 18:38:54 <Ethereal_Whisper> And then wait a few years for everything to unjam 18:39:38 <Arveen> http://mrftp.mooo.com:20080/tmp/bypass.sav 18:39:45 <Arveen> build a little bypass example with priority check 18:40:52 <Arveen> this could easy look itself up btw 18:40:57 <Arveen> just a quick and dirty build :) 18:41:01 <Arveen> *lock 18:41:11 <Ethereal_Whisper> Thanks :) 18:42:08 <Clockworker_> oh man 18:42:17 <Clockworker_> my neurologist looked at my EEG 18:42:20 <Clockworker_> and asked a CT scan 18:42:23 <Clockworker_> RIP in peace 18:42:49 <Clockworker_> it's probably openttdcoop 18:42:56 <Clockworker_> fried my brain 18:43:09 <Arveen> im getting an MRT of my back in a couple of weeks 18:46:41 <Arveen> not ottd's fault :P 18:48:57 <Clockworker_> yeah I don't know what's up yet 18:49:05 <Clockworker_> it's a slowdown in the frontal lobe 18:49:11 <Clockworker_> but that can mean many things, hence CT 18:49:17 <coopserver> *** Mark has left the game (Leaving) 18:49:59 <Arveen> kinda the same for me. they have no clue what happend 18:50:36 <Arveen> one morning i was in the bathroom and tried to pick up the scale from the floor - then i had this insane backpain and then passed out from it 18:51:17 <Clockworker_> damn man 18:51:17 <Ethereal_Whisper> Um 18:51:34 <Ethereal_Whisper> No monorail locomotives available but I can build monorail lines? Cool. 18:51:38 <Arveen> yeah ... pretty sick when you pass out due to insane pain. never had that before and dont need it again 18:51:48 <Clockworker_> it was only once at least? 18:51:58 <Ethereal_Whisper> OUch Arveen 18:51:59 <Arveen> yeah. that was like 3 weeks ago 18:52:08 <Clockworker_> oh, really recent 18:52:14 <Ethereal_Whisper> The last time I passed out from pain was when a nurse was scrubbing the dead skin off my burn wounds 18:52:28 <Clockworker_> ouch 18:52:32 <Clockworker_> my sister does that 18:52:38 <Clockworker_> she's a health worker 18:53:01 <Ethereal_Whisper> It's literally the most intense pain I've ever felt 18:53:02 <Arveen> i was lucky my old lady was still home and found me 18:53:05 <Mark> night folks 18:53:05 <Ethereal_Whisper> My burns are 2nd degree 18:53:12 <Clockworker_> debridement 18:54:21 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://puu.sh/on7Zk/5466fb5cf8.jpg that was this morning, after 3 weeks of healing 18:54:25 <Clockworker_> I've had severe sunburn once, it raised blisters, but I don't know if it qualified as 2nd degree 18:54:39 <Arveen> my doc said it might be a slipped disc in the spine or something -hence the MRT now to find out whats going on. right now the pain is handable 18:54:48 <Clockworker_> wew 18:54:56 <Arveen> ummmm 18:58:59 <Ethereal_Whisper> Sorry Arveen was sharing that picture too much 18:59:14 <Arveen> np 18:59:30 <V453000> Ethereal_Whisper: how did you manage that? 18:59:43 <Arveen> my cousine sends me all kinds of scary pics - she works at a hospital 18:59:54 <Ethereal_Whisper> V453000: spilled hot oil (it was burning) in trying to put out a kitchen fire 19:00:01 <Ethereal_Whisper> I put the fire out, but burned my legs in the process 19:00:04 <Arveen> like "HEY check out this guy who fell into a knife block .... 7 times - no attempted suicide tho" 19:00:20 <Clockworker_> that sucks 19:00:22 <V453000> :d 19:00:25 <tyteen4a03> coop game says Failed to save game: Failed to initialise compressor 19:00:31 <Clockworker_> my mom is specially scared of kitchen fires and burns 19:00:38 <Clockworker_> she's super paranoid about it with good reason 19:00:49 <coopserver> *** tyteen4a03 has left the game (connection lost) 19:00:50 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:00:55 <tyteen4a03> and the game broke 19:00:59 <Ethereal_Whisper> I'm 29 and have been cooking basically as long as I've been able to walk. First time I've ever had a fire in the kitchen 19:01:16 <tyteen4a03> !pw 19:01:16 <coopserver> tyteen4a03: qdport 19:01:23 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 19:01:24 <coopserver> *** tyteen4a03 has joined 19:01:25 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:01:26 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:01:37 <V453000> from what did you get the fire? 19:01:44 <Ethereal_Whisper> Huh? 19:01:49 <Arveen> i once left a pan on the stove - forgot to turn it off and went away. when i got back several ours later that thing was glowing red 19:01:50 <V453000> what was the fire source 19:02:11 <V453000> the oven? 19:02:47 <Ethereal_Whisper> Frying pan filled with oil 19:03:03 <Clockworker_> flamable material, oxygen and a spark I think 19:03:05 <Clockworker_> :P 19:03:49 <V453000> didn't you say you tried to put out the fire with oil? :D 19:04:00 <Ethereal_Whisper> I didn't see it specifically what caused it. I was heating up oil to cook something, then I hear the distinct sound of something bursting into flames, look over (was sitting at kitchen table) and the pan was on fire 19:04:27 <V453000> :d 19:04:31 <Ethereal_Whisper> No, I picked it up and dropped int in my lap; the pan bounced off my knees (I was in a wheelchair at the time), hit the floor, and splashed the oil all over my legs 19:04:52 <tyteen4a03> my flatmate turned on the stove one and went to sleep; the pan melted with the stove the next morning 19:04:55 <Arveen> burning oil is the worst 19:04:59 <tyteen4a03> :( 19:05:45 <Arveen> sounds like my pan. i got home and was wondering whats that red glowing thing in the dark 19:05:50 <Clockworker_> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71312462/ShareX/2016/04/B9KDi1MIQAA9fKd.jpg 19:06:00 <Arveen> was only like 2 or 3 hours so it didnt melt yet 19:06:34 <V453000> :d 19:06:39 <V453000> yeah oil is a bitch 19:06:41 <Ethereal_Whisper> Clockworker_: fire burn 19:12:33 <Arveen> !pw 19:12:33 <coopserver> Arveen: tcache 19:12:37 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 19:12:38 <coopserver> *** Arveen has joined 19:12:39 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 19:13:21 <coopserver> *** Arveen has left the game (Leaving) 19:20:12 *** Progman_ has joined #openttdcoop 19:25:18 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:25:30 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 19:30:42 <coopserver> *** tyteen4a03 has left the game (Leaving) 19:30:43 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:53:35 <Arveen> well - im out for tonight. gn8 19:54:10 *** Mothership_Q has joined #openttdcoop 19:56:00 *** Arveen has quit IRC 20:03:06 *** Hiddenfunstuff has quit IRC 20:04:31 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:59:31 *** Mothership_Q has quit IRC 21:25:58 *** Goddesen has quit IRC 21:34:04 *** Goddesen has joined #openttdcoop 21:39:44 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:54:59 *** happpy_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:55:59 *** happpy has quit IRC 21:57:04 *** StarLite has quit IRC 21:58:24 *** happpy_ is now known as happpy 22:09:34 *** Goddesen has quit IRC 22:15:44 *** Goddesen has joined #openttdcoop 23:57:14 *** LadyHawk- has joined #openttdcoop