Log for #openttdcoop on 30th July 2016:
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06:05:53  <Arveen> !players
06:05:53  <coopserver> Arveen: The server is empty, noone is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation
06:06:09  <Arveen> !pw
06:06:09  <coopserver> Arveen: newval
06:06:21  <Arveen> !pw
06:06:21  <coopserver> Arveen: easily
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07:25:46  <Mark> hjm
07:25:58  <Mark> hello
07:26:02  <V453000> heyo
07:26:05  <V453000> ARE YOU BRIX?
07:26:11  <Mark> wud
07:26:12  <Mark> :D
07:26:30  <V453000> just say yes, resistance is futile
07:26:35  <V453000> all shall be brix
07:27:05  <V453000> soon as fuck
07:27:35  <V453000> yesterday I fixed bridges. Something that has always been broken in every attempt at RAWR/BRIX I did so far
07:27:41  <V453000> I almost wanted to cry when I saw it finally work
07:27:45  <V453000> :D
07:28:53  <V453000> how are you?
08:38:27  <Mark> cool cant wait
08:38:31  <Mark> im very good thank you
08:38:59  <Mark> !pw
08:38:59  <coopserver> Mark: barren
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08:58:30  <happpy> !players
08:58:30  <coopserver> happpy: There are currently 0 players and 1 spectators, making a total of 1 clients connected
08:58:36  <happpy> hi
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09:24:55  <skrzyp> !dl lin64
09:24:55  <coopserver> skrzyp:
09:25:43  <skrzyp> !password
09:25:43  <coopserver> skrzyp: wastes
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09:37:30  <happpy> hi skrzp
09:38:30  <skrzyp> hello
09:39:01  <happpy> if u need help just say and we can help u
09:39:03  <skrzyp> I'm still downloading newgrf pack, is this correct that latest version has been released in 2010?
09:39:27  <happpy> i think so yes
09:40:44  <happpy> u need to make a new folder in your openttd won and name it newgrf   and ther u go
09:40:45  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop wiki - (again, try !grf)
09:42:18  <Jam35> the game has since got in-game content downloader
09:42:29  <Jam35> so no need for convenient grf packs
09:42:30  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop wiki - (again, try !grf)
09:42:40  <skrzyp> Well, I know how to play OpenTTD, I'm playing it since ~2010, but usually on regular Temperate servers
09:43:12  <Jam35> It should not take long to download though...
09:43:19  <Jam35> !grf
09:43:19  <coopserver> Jam35:
09:44:06  <V453000> I think in our recent games we seem to mostly abandon grf pack newgrfs
09:44:40  <skrzyp> So I think the quickstart guide should be edited to avoid downloading obsolete tarballs.
09:44:53  <V453000> which on one hand is a shame cause many of the old grfs are work of art, and modern newgrfs are pretty regressive in terms of quality, but at the same time it's convenient to not have to give a fuck about the grf pack
09:45:16  <V453000> what do you think should be edited?
09:45:49  <Jam35> !pw
09:45:49  <coopserver> Jam35: sparks
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09:46:23  <V453000> note, having the grf pack isn't just for joining the server, it is also for loading any of our older savegames
09:46:44  <Jam35> some of the stations here are in the pack
09:46:48  <Jam35> Dutch stuff
09:47:39  <Jam35> but still it's only 45mb
09:47:44  <V453000> yeah
09:47:54  <V453000> any of my 32bpp newgrfs are multiple times that size
09:49:21  <skrzyp> The overall size of downloaded NewGRFs from Content Download is about 90MB, now I'm at ~12MB
09:49:39  <skrzyp> My current internet connection is absolutely shitty
09:49:59  <Jam35> from content downloader, that would be NUTS mostly then :)
09:50:15  <Jam35> the rest are small
09:52:02  <skrzyp> 19MB… On my own server I needed to enlarge max_join_time and max_download_time so much that I won't be dropped after 45sec download time
09:54:23  <Jam35> I think you might be disappointed then, train count here is 1800
09:54:50  <Jam35> if we unpause you might timeout
09:55:25  <Jam35> 'can't keep up with server'
09:55:30  <skrzyp> Not really, depends on sync_freq and framesize
09:55:41  <skrzyp> Also, pausing on join is enabled, right?
09:56:06  <Jam35> maybe, the game is paused now
09:56:14  <skrzyp> I think I might annoy other players with that…
09:56:30  <Jam35> !rcon set pause_on_join
09:56:31  <coopserver> Current value for 'pause_on_join' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1)
09:57:23  <skrzyp> Only 2 users are conected?
09:57:37  <Jam35> yes
09:58:30  <skrzyp> I thought #openttdcoop is a more serious business…
09:59:47  <Jam35> we have a few regulars, mostly euro evenings. some usa too
09:59:59  <Jam35> but it is quiet lately
10:00:27  <Arveen> current game is also a few weeks old
10:00:44  <skrzyp> I'm living in Krakow, so I think the +-CEST evenings might be okay for me
10:00:50  <Jam35> that too, not many want to expand
10:01:11  <Arveen> i want to expand - except hubs :P
10:01:39  <skrzyp> How do you maintain such a large networks?
10:02:25  <Jam35> optimise for performamce
10:02:40  <Jam35> the answer to that is complex :)
10:02:43  <Jam35> read the wiki :P
10:05:20  <V453000> add more trains - see what broke - improve what broke - add trains
10:05:25  <V453000> simple. :) except not at all
10:05:38  <skrzyp> My current bandwith is fully used by Content Download, if I start a few more HTTP GET's something will be dropped
10:06:16  <V453000> I never knew internet was that much of a problem in Poland
10:06:34  <skrzyp> No, not really
10:06:50  <V453000> k :>
10:06:59  <skrzyp> FTTH fibers are pretty common here
10:07:02  <skrzyp> it's just me
10:07:29  <skrzyp> long story short, it will change in next months when I move somewhere else
10:07:46  <V453000> :)
10:08:34  <skrzyp> I can order a 300Mbps for about 45-55 PLN, but I don't have rights to plug it in that certain flat
10:08:47  <skrzyp> (per months)
10:08:52  <V453000> get it :)
10:08:58  <skrzyp> (~)
10:09:05  <Arveen> sounds nice
10:09:06  <V453000> yeah :) that is super cheap
10:09:36  <V453000> though I currently also have 100Mbps for like  per month :D
10:09:45  <Arveen> im on cable 225/11 for ~47$/month
10:09:57  <skrzyp> But they give you a crappy modem-router device, so you should also acquire some MikroTik RouterBOARD for your safety and pleasure
10:10:09  <V453000>  /me haz 100/100 ... works wonders when you need to send shit
10:10:11  <skrzyp> and use it as bridge between that modem (with disabled routing) and your local network
10:10:22  <V453000> at least they say it, I doubt the upload is that much though
10:10:47  <Arveen> ENVY! .... im doing cloud backups right now. will be another 3+ months till im finished :P
10:10:59  <Arveen> such a pita with 11mbit upload
10:11:18  <skrzyp> And I'll rather use something a bit more expensive, but from little local ISP
10:11:22  <V453000> I mainly use it for remote desktop connecting ... it is almost the same as working locally :D
10:11:32  <V453000> and then sending big 3D scenes etc
10:11:45  <skrzyp> Which does not have much filters and deep packet inspections
10:13:39  <V453000> well, in short, be happy you only need to download newgrf pack and not yeti/rawr combo :P
10:13:40  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop wiki - (again, try !grf)
10:13:47  <V453000> yeah fuck you webster
10:13:54  <Arveen> lulz
10:14:35  <skrzyp> hmm
10:14:38  <skrzyp> newgrf
10:15:06  <skrzyp> okay, why that bot is randomly activated?
10:15:20  <V453000> it has some pattern which it detects
10:15:28  <V453000> you need to use multiple of the keywords to trigger it
10:15:33  <V453000> download newgrf
10:15:39  <V453000> how newgrf
10:15:46  <V453000> newgrf pack
10:15:49  <V453000> idk :D
10:15:54  <V453000> download newgrf pack
10:15:59  <V453000> :(
10:16:15  <skrzyp> how to patch KDE2 under FreeBSD
10:16:21  <skrzyp> uhh, no luck
10:25:51  <skrzyp> !pw
10:25:51  <coopserver> skrzyp: decide
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10:27:29  <skrzyp> tada.wav
10:29:36  <skrzyp> OK, what should I do now?
10:31:04  <coopserver> <Jam35> identify problems and expand
10:31:22  <coopserver> <Jam35> where is traffic flow slow/stopping
10:31:34  <coopserver> <Jam35> make more lines or whatever is needed
10:31:56  <coopserver> <skrzyp> Train 321 is getting very old…
10:31:59  <coopserver> <skrzyp> Or something
10:32:03  <coopserver> <Jam35> meh
10:32:12  <Arveen> you should turn that setting off
10:32:22  <Arveen> @notification for old vehicles
10:32:39  <coopserver> <Jam35> no breakdowns so we don't care
10:32:44  <Arveen> we dont renew vehicles
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10:37:17  <skrzyp> Hmm, the game is running very slow, and UI lags a lot
10:37:46  <V453000> laptop?
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10:38:53  <skrzyp> Thinkpad X201, i5-520M (2x2.4), 4GB RAM, iHD2000
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10:39:42  <skrzyp> *clap clap clap*
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11:05:36  <Garogolun> !password
11:05:37  <coopserver> Garogolun: inject
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11:59:17  <BiG_MEOW> yoyo
11:59:21  * BiG_MEOW slaps Mark around a bit with a large fishbot
12:23:30  * V453000 slaps BiG_MEOW around a bit with a large fishbot
13:09:25  <Jam35> `slape BiG_MEOW
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13:23:06  <lol> !pw
13:23:06  <coopserver> lol: result
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18:06:39  <limelier> i'm not entirely sure why i'm still in this channel but i do enjoy it
18:08:18  <V453000> XD
18:08:26  <V453000> well that's all that matters I believe
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