Log for #openttdcoop on 22nd August 2016:
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08:28:47  <__Fellini__> !pw
08:28:47  <coopserver> __Fellini__: ticker
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08:37:11  <happpy> ho
08:37:25  <coopserver> <__Fellini__> hi happy
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08:38:49  <happpy> !players
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08:38:54  <happpy> how things
08:39:28  <coopserver> <__Fellini__> i broke my arm =(
08:39:50  <happpy> ar how did u doo that
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08:40:26  <happpy> will i hop  it get beter soon
08:41:14  <coopserver> <__Fellini__> i was drunk
08:41:21  <coopserver> <__Fellini__> i dont know
08:41:26  <coopserver> <__Fellini__> xD
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13:04:34  <happpy> hi
13:06:42  <Sova> yo
13:06:55  <happpy> how things
13:07:13  <Sova> not bad. Can't complain. you?
13:07:26  <happpy> year all good
13:07:41  <V453000> sup sova :)
13:07:45  <Sova> Sup V ! :)
13:07:58  <V453000> I appreciate you registering on tt-forums just to write to BRIX thread. :) It helps me keep moving
13:08:26  <Sova> Oh yeah, I've been lurking there for ages now... and I really enjoy NUTS :)
13:08:35  <V453000> awesome :)
13:08:41  <Sova> and can't wait for BRIX as well
13:08:54  <V453000> It's amazing to hear that people enjoy NUTS even if they don't play on openttdcoop regularly
13:09:43  <Sova> I'll be honest, NUTS is not perfect but it's the closest thing to perfect that I think exists when it comes to trains sets for openttd
13:09:51  <Sova> I still find myself never using a lot of trains
13:10:04  <Sova> but this may be cause of my playstyle
13:10:08  <happpy> will u did doo a good job on the nuts train set  v
13:10:30  <V453000> it's not perfect at all. I personally hate how many restrictive rules there are "this can connect to this but not to that"
13:10:36  <V453000> but it's almost impossible to fix it
13:11:02  <V453000> yeah, all of the NUTS trains are usable with certain network, but some of those networks are very hard to build and/or extremely situational
13:11:20  <Sova> exactly
13:11:21  <V453000> and the whole MEOW coloured rail idea felt amazing, but in reality it's not that great
13:11:34  <Sova> I REALLY wanted to use them
13:11:36  <V453000> my next train set will be different, but it will fix those things
13:11:40  <Sova> but never found a way :)
13:12:03  <V453000> it's simple
13:12:25  <Sova> I mean I never found a place in my train roster from them having in mind all other trains in the set
13:12:29  <V453000> the concept is: you have relatively weak trains which need correct use of correct track colour in the right spots in order to get benefits
13:12:32  <Sova> for*
13:12:58  <V453000> which on the paper works, these trains are better at accelerating on blue rails than some other trains, yet are faster than most trains on red track, ...
13:13:17  <V453000> but in reality the only thing it does is that you build yellow-blue-green-red rainbow whenever trains accelerate
13:13:21  <V453000> which is nothing else than annoying
13:13:45  <Sova> yes
13:13:49  <V453000> it does bring one thing which is otherwise impossible to do in openttd - let trains run through waypoint, check their max speed, and apply conditional order based on that
13:14:01  <V453000> since the speed changes based on track colour, you can make some seriously awesome stuff with this
13:14:10  <V453000> but yeah
13:14:21  <V453000> I already have big plans to solve shit
13:14:39  <Sova> I think people want things to be a little bit simpler
13:14:40  <V453000> just need time to execute them ... BRIX first, train set second
13:15:16  <V453000> yeah, the amount of train choices is also a bit excessive, a lot of them are "very close" to each other
13:15:38  <V453000> but yes, it's what it is, it has it's flaws, but the choice it gives is still unparalleled
13:15:44  <Sova> indeed
13:15:56  <Sova> For me it's either NUTS or default
13:16:05  <Sova> And I kind of like NUTS a little bit more :)
13:16:17  <V453000> :)
13:16:44  <V453000> well it is mainly great because it has trains which are actually accelerating well, which is critically important for building a network
13:17:19  <Sova> yeah the traction on most trains is at least double the ammount of other sets in the same category
13:17:24  <Sova> as far as I could tell
13:17:53  <V453000> it's calculated from weight so it's not so easy to count it, but yeah
13:18:06  <Sova> it is?
13:18:09  <V453000> also maglev not being just straight up better
13:18:12  <Sova> I was just reading the tooltips
13:18:22  <Sova> description of a train
13:18:27  <V453000> yeah it's 0-256 times something times 10*weight or something
13:18:43  <Sova> yeah maglev gets those small ass containers XD
13:19:02  <V453000> 256 = 1, 128 = 0.5, 0=0
13:19:02  <Sova> that really hurt me the first time I did a mass replace
13:19:07  <V453000> haha
13:19:09  <Sova> and suddenly
13:19:12  <V453000> well sure, they have their purpose though
13:19:16  <Sova> full stations everywhere
13:19:32  <V453000> and they still are very fun to use :)
13:20:11  <Sova> If I remember correctly, throughtput wise, those maglevs get the same when the third FAST one appears
13:20:20  <Sova> in comparison to monorail fast
13:20:24  <Sova> something like that
13:20:29  <Sova> I know I did some testing
13:20:38  <Sova> replacing and replacing
13:20:49  <Sova> to see what would work best on my then network
13:21:24  <V453000> monorail fast is only good with long trains
13:21:34  <V453000> due to the power growth with attached units
13:21:47  <hylje> gotta go fast
13:22:20  <Sova> yeah, Flygone could use it instead of the big boi :)
13:22:33  <V453000> he wouldn't because realizm :P
13:22:42  <Sova> oh noes
13:23:38  <Sova> I know there is this guy on the TTD forums which doesn't use trains
13:23:47  <Sova> only road vehicles and ships
13:24:06  <V453000> XD fair nuf
13:24:13  <Sova> and here I am thinking how could you not use trains when they are the funnest stuff!!
13:25:42  <V453000> :)
13:25:49  <V453000> have you ever played on our server?
13:28:16  <Sova> I've visited it a couple of times. It's still kind of mind boggling what you people do there and I'm still learning the ropes as you say.
13:29:16  <V453000> well don't be afraid, if you play on the server people can explain stuff to you, and you would be mind boggled to see how quickly it all becomes natural for you :P
13:29:35  <V453000> boggle or not to boggle, that's the question
13:29:40  <Sova> hehe
13:30:16  <Sova> The other main thing is that my play time in the past year has almost grown to a halt thanks to a baby :)
13:30:34  <V453000> congratulations, same here :)
13:30:41  <Sova> ooooh GRATZ!
13:30:50  <Sova> boy?
13:30:56  <V453000> noep :) princess
13:31:02  <Sova> awww sweet
13:31:12  <Sova> how old is she?
13:31:30  <V453000> 6 m 10 d
13:32:00  <Sova> Mines 1 year and almost 1 month
13:32:05  <Sova> I remember to 6 month mark
13:32:09  <Sova> the*
13:32:18  <Sova> Started sitting
13:32:20  <V453000> :)
13:32:29  <Sova> what a rollercoster
13:32:36  <V453000> eh babies usually should start sitting at 9m I read
13:32:41  <V453000> ours doesn't sit yet, for sure. ;D
13:33:03  <Sova> When I said started I should have said tried to start sitting :)
13:33:14  <V453000> :) that yes them
13:33:15  <V453000> then
13:33:46  <Sova> Luka did some wierd poses where he seemed as though he was posing for a photo shoot :)
13:34:14  <V453000> XD
13:34:27  <V453000> where are you from btw?
13:34:51  <Sova> Belgrade
13:35:40  <V453000> ah :)
13:35:45  <V453000> I guess sova means owl then? :P
13:35:49  <Sova> Yes :)
13:35:54  <V453000> hoot hoot
13:36:35  <Sova> It's a nickname I got in primary school
13:36:35  <Sova> and it stayed with me
13:36:59  <V453000> nice
13:37:37  <Sova> V453000 seems like a huge motorblock engine to me :)
13:37:48  <V453000> V8 for the losers
13:38:14  <V453000> it's actually a transcription of my first name in non-formal form to numbers
13:38:19  <V453000> Vasek = V453000
13:38:37  <Sova> heh
13:38:55  <Sova> Vasek, so I'd say somewhere eastern block?
13:39:33  <V453000> beer republic
13:39:53  <Sova> mmmm beer
13:40:10  <V453000> [czech]
13:40:23  <Sova> sweet
13:40:28  <Sova> haven't been there yet
13:41:07  <Sova> You have a sweet metal festival each June I think
13:41:24  <V453000> brutal assault?
13:41:26  <Sova> a colleague from work goes there every year
13:41:46  <Sova> yes!
13:41:59  <V453000> yeah it's probably sick as fuck
13:42:03  <V453000> never been there myself though
13:42:04  <V453000> YET
13:42:14  <hylje> wacken was decent but people were hyping brutal assault
13:42:16  <Sova> she sends over crazy pics
13:42:28  <Sova> she just got a baby 3 months old
13:42:30  <hylje> some crazy people do those back to back
13:42:32  <Sova> not a problem
13:42:37  <V453000> gg
13:42:44  <Sova> she paid transport for 3 more people
13:42:47  <Sova> to wathc over her child
13:42:51  <Sova> just so she could attend :)
13:44:08  <V453000> that's kind of insane
13:44:45  <Sova> yeah well when you live in minor shithole as serbia where almost no one comes
13:44:55  <Sova> it's the only way :)
13:45:38  <V453000> XD well yeah but still, wanting to go such a thing so badly that you even have to go with a 3m old XD
13:46:13  <Sova> it is overkill a little :)
13:48:31  <Sova> 3:48 come on 5 oclock !!!
13:50:04  <V453000> XD leaving work at that time?
13:50:15  <Sova> yeah
13:50:23  <Sova> Isn't everyone? :)
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13:52:41  <V453000> depends
13:52:58  <V453000> but yeah it's common
13:53:43  <hylje> welcome to eastern european timezone where 5 o clock is in 7 minutes
13:53:52  <Sova> hehe
13:59:06  <Sova> does openttd(coop) have a official discord channel perhaps?
13:59:19  <V453000> just TS3
13:59:24  <Sova> ok
13:59:35  <V453000> but we don't generally use it
13:59:40  <V453000> game chat is usually better
14:00:00  <V453000> people can read back from log in IRC, it's for everybody, everybody understands easily (understanding spoken word is generally harder) , ...
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