Log for #openttdcoop on 23rd September 2016:
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15:17:42  <Lejving> anybody playing today??
15:18:46  <V453000> ima join but am on touchpad XD
15:19:01  <V453000> I can only say SmartShit(tm)
15:19:20  <V453000> !dl win64
15:19:20  <coopserver> V453000:
15:19:21  <Sadale> SmartShitâ„¢
15:19:35  <Lejving> yay!
15:19:43  <Sadale> V453000, Is that Yeti bug confirmed? :P
15:19:46  <Lejving> !pw
15:19:46  <coopserver> Lejving: merges
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15:20:48  <V453000> Sadale: Sylf says it is not a complete bug, but he will look into it
15:20:59  <Sadale> ah :-)
15:21:03  <V453000> in other words, you dont want to deliver things to houses
15:21:06  <V453000> only to yeti yards
15:21:14  <Sadale> ah. It's not a bug. it's a feature.
15:21:19  <Sadale> V453000, well, I didn't know that.
15:21:21  <V453000> but tbh I didnt have time to check
15:21:29  <V453000> but yeah, it shouldnt affect the actual gameplay in any serious way
15:21:41  <Sadale> Maybe it should be documented.
15:21:57  <V453000> I would prefer it being solved and not having invalid cargo at all
15:22:00  <Sadale> I seriously had no idea on what to do to grow the town :-(
15:22:06  <V453000> ha
15:22:11  <Sadale> I bet that the invalid cargo is goods.
15:22:14  <V453000> good point actually, in arctic it might be hard to do that
15:22:21  <V453000> most likely food, idk
15:22:31  <Sadale> nah. goods because it happens on temperate.
15:22:38  <V453000> alright
15:22:45  <Sadale> The <invalid cargo> isn't passengers. It isn't mail. What else could that be? :P
15:22:56  <Sadale> => goods
15:23:37  <Sadale> V453000,
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15:24:15  <Sadale> V453000, I think that the last paragraph isn't clear enough :(
15:24:33  <Sadale> V453000, I didn't realize that the last paragraph is the answer of the question "Towns above snow line require food to grow. Towns in desert require food and building materials to grow. But how can it be done when the town buildings don't accept neither food or building materials?"
15:24:52  <V453000> I am not sure at all tbh
15:24:57  <V453000> Sylf knows, he coded and wrote it :)
15:25:05  <Sadale> Perhaps prepending "That's easy. Just deliver the required cargo to the 4X Worker Yard"
15:25:18  <Sadale> s/prepending/modifying it to/
15:25:25  <Sadale> oh ok :p
15:25:28  <Sadale> Sylf, ^
15:28:07  <V453000> idk if it even is up to date
15:29:29  <Lejving> I wanted to add another train to a station
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15:29:34  <Lejving> turns out we're at 1000 limit of trains
15:31:52  <Sadale> boo!
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15:57:04  <V453000> is all shit expanded so there are no jams?
15:57:13  <V453000> I can increase the limit if it is so
15:57:18  <Lejving> no there's jams
15:57:29  <V453000> well then :P
15:57:33  <Lejving> =)
15:58:27  <Lejving> I made some but didn't connect it and wrote my name on it
16:14:50  <Lejving> V453000, need some of dat SmartShitâ„¢
16:16:00  <V453000> GG
16:16:02  <V453000> soon tm
16:21:34  <Lejving> I think I'm going to continue doing this, make shit and not connect it unless someone of you approves it
16:21:41  <Lejving> and if it's total shit one can just delete it
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18:22:20  <Lejving> did everybody quit playing :'(
18:52:31  <Jam35> lately it seems interest drops at the expanding stage
18:52:46  <Jam35> activity is always at game start
18:53:17  <Lejving> seems like it yeah
18:54:12  <Jam35> !pw
18:54:12  <coopserver> Jam35: oceans
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18:55:32  <coopserver> <Lejving> So I made some suggestions, not a lot
18:55:36  <coopserver> <Lejving> but didn't connect anything
18:55:41  <coopserver> <Jam35> thought the dog was having a fit
18:55:42  <coopserver> <Lejving> so easy to remove if we want
18:55:43  <coopserver> <Jam35> ok
18:55:50  <coopserver> <Jam35>  let me see
18:57:37  <coopserver> <Jam35> the one leaving BBH 08 is fine
18:57:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> but yes,
18:57:53  <coopserver> <Jam35> ay BBH 07
18:57:58  <coopserver> <Jam35> needs 4th out
18:58:07  <coopserver> <Lejving> =)
18:58:26  <coopserver> <Jam35> and your suggstion should probably split to 4 there
18:58:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> signed don't know where... etc
18:59:05  <coopserver> <Jam35> means expanding that merger
18:59:07  <coopserver> <Lejving> yeap yeap
18:59:20  <coopserver> <Jam35> or split another line whatever
18:59:21  <coopserver> <Lejving> but bbh 07 so much shiet going on there
18:59:29  <coopserver> <Lejving> kinda afraid to touch it haha
18:59:37  <coopserver> <Jam35> still ok to do
18:59:42  <coopserver> <Jam35> let's do that
18:59:56  <coopserver> <Jam35> so I would start by thinking how much space we need
19:00:42  <coopserver> <Jam35> probably 4 tiles in the centre
19:00:46  <coopserver> <Lejving> well people spoke about having 4 lanes in inner circle
19:00:53  <coopserver> <Lejving> so maybe even account for that
19:03:24  <coopserver> <Jam35> omg :D
19:03:34  <coopserver> <Lejving> the rage is real
19:03:47  <coopserver> <Jam35> meant convert tool
19:03:51  <coopserver> <Lejving> hahahahah
19:04:30  <coopserver> <Jam35> at least we have space now :)
19:04:45  <Lejving>
19:05:03  <coopserver> <Jam35> lol :P
19:05:11  <coopserver> <Lejving> :D
19:05:31  <coopserver> <Lejving> it look liked you raged and like "FUCK DELETING IT ALL"
19:05:49  <coopserver> <Jam35> no I was trying to convert to mono
19:05:53  <coopserver> <Jam35> from purr red
19:05:54  <coopserver> <Lejving> yeah =)
19:05:55  <coopserver> <Lejving> haha
19:06:09  <coopserver> <Jam35> never happend before :P
19:16:42  <coopserver> <Lejving> oops!
19:27:52  <coopserver> <Lejving> connected the 4th one
19:28:04  <coopserver> <Jam35> oh ok
19:33:08  <coopserver> <Lejving> Can we connect bbh8 now?
19:33:31  <coopserver> <Jam35> sure
19:33:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> we don't even need the splits there
19:34:04  <coopserver> <Jam35> it is 3 in 3 out
19:34:10  <coopserver> <Jam35> no need to mix the lines
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19:34:20  <coopserver> <Lejving> red mark it
19:35:04  <coopserver> <Lejving> cool
19:35:28  <coopserver> <Jam35> I think 10 length bridge is too long
19:35:34  <coopserver> <Jam35> but it's not broken now
19:35:47  <coopserver> <Jam35> might do bad things later
19:35:55  <coopserver> <Lejving> I don't like long bridges either
19:36:01  <coopserver> <Lejving> but good to know
19:37:37  <coopserver> <Jam35> those signs you?
19:37:39  <coopserver> <Lejving> y
19:38:07  <coopserver> <Jam35> no I think it's ok now
19:38:11  <coopserver> <Lejving> oki
19:38:20  <coopserver> <Jam35> I shortened the bridge by 1 tile
19:38:26  <coopserver> <Lejving> ^^
19:38:50  <coopserver> <Lejving> bbh07 is just so much spagethi
19:39:26  <coopserver> <Jam35> well 3+3->4 gets quite complicated I guess
19:39:31  <coopserver> <Lejving> esp for my brain
19:39:36  <coopserver> <Jam35> most of it is merger
19:39:40  <V453000> LOL Jam35 griefing like always
19:39:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> what? :)
19:39:51  <V453000> using the D tool
19:39:56  <coopserver> <Jam35> feck
19:40:00  <V453000> big D
19:40:07  <coopserver> <Jam35> D C whatever
19:40:11  <coopserver> <Lejving> :D
19:40:15  <V453000> GG
19:40:35  <V453000> I must admit that is really easy to miss, but I feel like it never happened to me
19:40:41  <V453000> I never realized it even could until now :D
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19:40:53  <coopserver> <Jam35> me too I swear  that's the first time :P
19:41:01  <coopserver> <Lejving> he was just under pressure
19:41:06  <coopserver> <Lejving> trying to show off his mad skillz to me
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19:41:30  <coopserver> <Jam35> definitely not that ... :P
19:41:36  <coopserver> <Lejving> suuuuuuuuuuure
19:42:32  <coopserver> <Jam35> so... we have 3 lines splitting to 4
19:42:45  <coopserver> <Jam35> and 3 lines prioritised
19:42:55  <coopserver> <Jam35> which means we have room for a 5th
19:43:01  <coopserver> <Jam35> with prio if you notice
19:43:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> no
19:44:07  <coopserver> <Jam35> 4th in I mean
19:44:11  <coopserver> <Jam35> not 5th out
19:44:15  <coopserver> <Lejving> =)
19:44:29  <coopserver> <Jam35> which is a bonus
19:44:36  <coopserver> <Jam35> cos I didn't plan it ... :D
19:45:27  <coopserver> <Lejving> I'm just happy you didn't go "your suggestions sucks"
19:45:31  <coopserver> <Lejving> "ctrl+a" "delete"
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19:48:54  <happpy> !players
19:48:54  <coopserver> happpy: There are currently 2 players and 0 spectators, making a total of 2 clients connected
19:49:46  <coopserver> <Lejving> Hey jam check out !here
19:50:11  <coopserver> <Lejving> at bbh 07
19:51:15  <coopserver> <Lejving> nvm I fixed it
19:55:22  <Jam35> afk  sorry ...
19:55:26  <Jam35> still
19:55:28  <coopserver> <Lejving> np
19:58:35  <V453000> gnight
20:00:52  <hylje> ni
20:01:17  <Jam35> back ish
20:01:25  <Jam35> it was the police
20:01:37  <coopserver> <Lejving> the fuq
20:01:42  <coopserver> <Lejving> what they wanted =)
20:01:44  <Jam35> I was not arrested :P
20:01:46  <hylje> just cop things
20:01:51  <Jam35> exactly
20:02:12  <coopserver> <Lejving> well you did destroy like 10 homes or so in new geningworth
20:02:17  <Jam35> about my neighbours
20:02:19  <coopserver> <Lejving> should've been arested
20:02:20  <Jam35> haha yes
20:03:11  <hylje> just remember to kill all the witnesses too
20:03:24  <hylje> don't go building rail systems half-cocked
20:03:24  <coopserver> <Lejving> fuck
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20:03:55  <coopserver> <Jam35> :D
20:03:57  <coopserver> <Jam35> what now
20:04:08  <coopserver> <Lejving> BBh03
20:04:51  <coopserver> <Jam35> ok so make extra splits
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20:15:24  <coopserver> <Jam35> that MSH good drop
20:15:41  <coopserver> <Jam35> the blue you suggest makes merge then split
20:16:03  <coopserver> <Jam35> the idea is right but do it after the split(s)
20:17:04  <coopserver> <Lejving> ok
20:17:24  <coopserver> <Jam35> somehow get that line to the red one too
20:18:03  <coopserver> <Jam35> it's nicer to merge all in one spot like that
20:18:09  <coopserver> <Lejving> yeap
20:18:13  <coopserver> <Jam35> but that can be moved ofc
20:18:35  <coopserver> <Jam35> and the bays can be in bridges or in tunnels
20:18:40  <coopserver> <Jam35> like this
20:18:54  <coopserver> <Jam35> gives some space
20:19:03  <coopserver> <Jam35> I let you finish :)
20:19:25  <coopserver> <Jam35> to practice moving stuff with traffic ::P
20:19:32  <coopserver> <Lejving> ok
20:19:35  <coopserver> <Jam35> but not much here
20:19:41  <coopserver> <Lejving> just to make clear
20:19:52  <coopserver> <Lejving> Yellow to connect ot yellow?
20:19:57  <coopserver> <Jam35> ye
20:20:00  <coopserver> <Lejving> ok
20:20:01  <coopserver> <Jam35> somehow
20:20:10  <coopserver> <Jam35> move anything you need to
20:20:38  <coopserver> <Jam35> so you follow... we are making all to all
20:20:43  <coopserver> <Lejving> Yeap
20:21:20  <coopserver> <Jam35> syuff like this will be the bread and butter of expansion
20:24:47  <coopserver> <Lejving> please
20:24:49  <coopserver> <Lejving> as if that was hard
20:24:53  <coopserver> <Lejving> XD
20:25:07  <coopserver> <Lejving> ok now signaling haha forgot how they where
20:25:43  <coopserver> <Jam35> with this it is easy
20:25:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> basic block everywhere
20:26:04  <coopserver> <Jam35> 90 deg there
20:26:19  <coopserver> <Jam35> no prios so no presignals
20:26:23  <coopserver> <Jam35> it is all to all
20:26:27  <coopserver> <Jam35> alll lines split
20:26:34  <coopserver> <Jam35> nothing is more important than any other
20:27:07  <coopserver> <Jam35> is a more difficult way of saying equal priority :)
20:27:13  <coopserver> <Lejving> hehe
20:27:39  <coopserver> <Jam35> oh no the choices still need presignals
20:27:57  <coopserver> <Lejving> ah
20:27:58  <coopserver> <Jam35> entry and exit for each choice
20:28:37  <coopserver> <Jam35> that one has a pbs cos of space
20:28:51  <coopserver> <Jam35> you see it slows there?
20:29:02  <coopserver> <Lejving> where
20:29:25  <coopserver> <Jam35> the red bridge
20:29:32  <coopserver> <Jam35> trains dont like the other path
20:29:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> I put 2 way as the next signal after the pbs
20:30:12  <coopserver> <Jam35> this says to trains if the 2 way is red: go anywhere else
20:30:23  <coopserver> <Lejving> ok o.O
20:30:28  <coopserver> <Lejving> had no idea about that trick
20:30:34  <coopserver> <Jam35> it is a weird setting yes
20:30:40  <coopserver> <Jam35> we use it a lot
20:30:51  <coopserver> <Jam35> it has many uses
20:30:58  <coopserver> <Lejving> we can move yellow down
20:31:04  <coopserver> <Lejving> and create more space
20:31:12  <coopserver> <Jam35> but it is quite dangerous
20:31:16  <coopserver> <Jam35> yes you can
20:31:31  <coopserver> <Jam35> if you want sure
20:31:36  <coopserver> <Lejving> I want to!
20:31:41  <coopserver> <Jam35> carry on then :P
20:33:54  <coopserver> <Lejving> there we go!
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20:34:41  <coopserver> <Jam35> I see a signal gap :)
20:34:52  <coopserver> <Lejving> Where
20:35:05  <coopserver> <Jam35> yes :)
20:35:21  <coopserver> <Lejving> still a bit tight there
20:35:27  <coopserver> <Jam35> also, but it's probably ok, bridge sync
20:35:36  <coopserver> <Jam35> you know about this?
20:35:40  <coopserver> <Lejving> nope
20:35:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> look below
20:36:39  <coopserver> <Lejving> diff entry poitns
20:36:43  <coopserver> <Lejving> same exit
20:38:02  <coopserver> <Jam35> there is some difference in diagonal and straight track
20:38:09  <coopserver> <Jam35> in terms of timing
20:38:12  <coopserver> <Lejving> diagonal is faster
20:38:25  <coopserver> <Jam35> yes so by keeping same length
20:38:41  <coopserver> <Jam35> we guarantee trains do not catch up
20:38:58  <coopserver> <Jam35> i.e. bridge sycing
20:39:04  <coopserver> <Jam35> or even syncing
20:39:53  <coopserver> <Lejving> well can you sync it with the red one?
20:39:56  <coopserver> <Lejving> green is ok
20:39:59  <coopserver> <Lejving> but can you make red work?
20:40:18  <coopserver> <Lejving> without doing that ofc haha
20:40:25  <coopserver> <Lejving> like with signaling
20:40:26  <coopserver> <Jam35> that is the only difference
20:40:43  <coopserver> <Jam35> not really it's the number of tiles that matter
20:40:46  <coopserver> <Lejving> okay
20:41:03  <coopserver> <Jam35> doesn't matter what signals are in there
20:41:08  <coopserver> <Lejving> okey okey
20:41:43  <coopserver> <Jam35> just mentioning it, as I say it probably won;t break much
20:41:52  <coopserver> <Lejving> I had no idea
20:41:54  <coopserver> <Lejving> so thanks!
20:41:59  <coopserver> <Lejving> and I fixed this one
20:42:00  <coopserver> <Lejving> =)
20:42:06  <coopserver> <Jam35> I would not go around fixing all of them unless you think it's a problem
20:44:41  <coopserver> <Jam35> omg
20:44:55  <coopserver> <Jam35> how many trains have I wrecked today?
20:45:21  <coopserver> <Lejving> 6
20:47:02  <happpy> !pw
20:47:03  <coopserver> happpy: heigth
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20:47:26  <coopserver> <Lejving> sup happy
20:47:31  <coopserver> <happy train sport> hey
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20:48:24  <coopserver> <Jam35> hi
20:49:07  <coopserver> <happy train sport> y  is  train  87  stop
20:49:34  <coopserver> <Jam35> forgot to start
20:49:35  <coopserver> <Jam35> y
20:49:36  <coopserver> <Lejving> probably so it wouldn't crash
20:49:39  <coopserver> <Jam35> ty
20:49:41  <coopserver> <happy train sport> ok
20:49:42  <coopserver> <Jam35> :D
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20:50:16  <coopserver> <Lejving> jam's inner griefer has revealed himself a lil today
20:50:27  <coopserver> <Lejving> deleting tracks, crashing trains and stuff
20:51:58  <coopserver> <Jam35> I wish I had an excuse tbh :)
20:52:11  <coopserver> <Lejving> haha
20:52:16  <coopserver> <happy train sport> a  lone train q   from    waypoint  say slh 03  exit
20:52:20  <coopserver> <Lejving> Just say you had a rhough week
20:53:44  <coopserver> <Jam35> the SL there should probably choose from 3
20:53:55  <coopserver> <Jam35> looks like it was taken out
20:55:12  <coopserver> <Jam35> bleh
20:55:30  <coopserver> <happy train sport> that  paper    works in the way
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20:56:40  <coopserver> <Lejving> anytihng I can do?
20:57:20  <coopserver> <Jam35> um...
20:57:21  <coopserver> <Lejving> train 979 stopped
20:57:23  <coopserver> <Lejving> any reason?
20:57:44  <coopserver> <Jam35> nope
20:57:48  <coopserver> <Lejving> ^^
20:57:59  <coopserver> <Jam35> me again jeez
20:58:09  <coopserver> <Lejving> at least it didn't crash ;)
20:58:10  <coopserver> <Jam35> just for convenience building
20:58:16  <coopserver> <Jam35> haha :P
21:01:51  <coopserver> <Lejving> man wish I wasn't a n00b and could do stuff on my own lol :(
21:02:36  <coopserver> <Jam35> you can :)
21:02:51  <coopserver> <Jam35> find something to expand and do it
21:02:52  <coopserver> <Lejving> but I don't know what!
21:03:00  <coopserver> <Jam35> it can't go that much wrong
21:03:09  <coopserver> <Jam35> whatever is busiest traffic
21:04:21  <coopserver> <Lejving> well from bbh01 to bbh5 we could use a 3rd I guess
21:10:51  <coopserver> <Lejving> hmm
21:12:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> yes you could do this :)
21:13:09  <coopserver> <Jam35> hehe
21:13:12  <coopserver> <Lejving> hey don't tell me what to do!
21:13:15  <coopserver> <Lejving> :D
21:13:33  <coopserver> <Jam35> less mess :P
21:13:36  <coopserver> <Lejving> yeah much better
21:14:02  <coopserver> <Lejving> will you check if I lead it right in bb1?
21:14:24  <coopserver> <Jam35> that part is fine
21:14:41  <coopserver> <Jam35> now identify where other lines could be joing your new one
21:15:01  <coopserver> <Jam35> e.g. !here
21:15:29  <coopserver> <Jam35> because this line splits and joins others
21:15:40  <coopserver> <Jam35> so we could now give it choice to the new one
21:15:47  <coopserver> <Lejving> ah
21:19:02  <coopserver> <Lejving> should the other split also join?
21:19:18  <coopserver> <Jam35> yes
21:19:32  <coopserver> <Jam35> well it will improve the merger
21:19:40  <coopserver> <Jam35> it does not have to
21:19:53  <coopserver> <Jam35> more choice is better
21:20:04  <coopserver> <Jam35> less chance for trains to jam there
21:21:28  <coopserver> <happy train sport> heem
21:21:37  <coopserver> <Jam35> heem what?
21:22:37  <coopserver> <happy train sport> Lejving:   u need  to  make  this  biter at your sing 4 th/lejevin
21:23:20  <coopserver> <Lejving> make sign that says !here or something
21:24:51  <coopserver> <Lejving> oh the red part
21:24:56  <coopserver> <happy train sport> yep
21:24:57  <coopserver> <Lejving> how you mean better?
21:25:43  <coopserver> <Jam35> he is right those lines are both full MLs
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21:26:26  <coopserver> <Lejving> didn't doubt he was right at all :D
21:27:07  <coopserver> <Lejving> and the connection to paper mill is lazy
21:27:09  <coopserver> <Jam35> that should be ok
21:27:10  <coopserver> <Lejving> only goes to one lane
21:27:30  <coopserver> <Jam35> ye sthat pbs thing could be better
21:27:47  <coopserver> <Lejving> oh that wasn't me
21:28:16  <coopserver> <Jam35> simple
21:28:19  <coopserver> <Lejving> check blue
21:28:36  <coopserver> <Jam35> oooh
21:29:37  <coopserver> <Lejving> that's pretty awesome
21:29:38  <coopserver> <Jam35> same lazyness level
21:29:44  <coopserver> <Lejving> haha
21:29:52  <coopserver> <Jam35> kind of works for now
21:29:59  <coopserver> <Jam35> it's pretty quiet over there
21:30:42  <coopserver> <Lejving> omigosh paper mill out is full again
21:32:33  <coopserver> <Jam35> sec
21:32:34  <coopserver> <Lejving> damn that didn't help
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21:39:17  <coopserver> <happy train sport> that needs a 3   tran line from  that paper     mill
21:39:35  <coopserver> <Lejving> jesus we're moving to electronic world
21:39:39  <coopserver> <Lejving> How much paper do we need
21:39:54  <coopserver> <Lejving> don't people in openttd have email
21:41:23  <coopserver> <Jam35> getting tired...
21:41:27  <coopserver> <Jam35> back tomorrow
21:41:35  <coopserver> <happy train sport> ok  gn
21:41:36  <coopserver> <Lejving> yeah me too
21:41:41  <coopserver> <Lejving> we did some progress at least
21:41:44  <coopserver> <Jam35> early pm I expect
21:41:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> some
21:41:57  <coopserver> <Lejving> mostly you ^^
21:42:00  <coopserver> <Jam35> needs a fair bit of work still
21:42:33  <coopserver> <Jam35> gn
21:42:36  <coopserver> <Lejving> gn jam!
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21:42:38  <coopserver> <happy train sport> gn
21:42:59  <coopserver> <Lejving> i'm off also =)
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21:43:04  <coopserver> <happy train sport> ok  gn
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