Log for #openttdcoop on 6th September 2017:
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15:13:40  <Cadadadry> hello, world
15:14:04  <Lejving> hi Cadadadry
15:14:06  <Lejving> how things
15:14:26  <Cadadadry> wow, one is alive :D
15:14:41  <Cadadadry> I'm desperately looking for a coach on TTD
15:14:56  <Lejving> we're not as inactive in here as one might think
15:15:13  <Cadadadry> hopefully
15:15:25  <Cadadadry> can I tell you my concern ?
15:15:26  <Lejving> someone will probably join later tonight can probaby get some good help then
15:15:31  <Lejving> sure
15:15:43  <Cadadadry> I used to play and love original TTD
15:15:57  <Cadadadry> now I've installes openTTD but I feel lost
15:16:24  <Cadadadry> so many new grf's, so many questions
15:16:38  <Lejving> yeah it's a lot to take in
15:16:40  <Cadadadry> I'm on the TS3 server, but nobody shows up
15:16:54  <Lejving> you should try #openttdcoop.stable
15:17:15  <Cadadadry> I have already installed a couple of grf's, and not too sure what to install next
15:17:21  <Lejving> hehe
15:17:22  <Cadadadry> ah
15:17:30  <Lejving> it's very beginner friendly server
15:17:35  <Lejving> and it's quite active
15:17:38  <Cadadadry> great I'll do that
15:17:43  <Cadadadry> thx to you
15:17:49  <Lejving> np
15:18:07  <Lejving> the one thing I can say about grfs, get NUTS
15:18:14  <Lejving> that's almost all you need :)
15:18:52  <Cadadadry> I've installed all "UK3... grf, plus trams
15:19:19  <Cadadadry> "UK"*
15:19:25  <Lejving>
15:19:39  <Lejving> nuts is absolutely single best train newgrf
15:19:45  <Lejving> though I'd never admit it openly to V453000
15:20:28  <V453000> GG
15:20:29  <Cadadadry> I dont feel inspired by fantasy trains, I usually start my game in 1830 ;)
15:21:30  <V453000> sorry :P
15:21:42  <V453000> if you build big networks, maybe you will find your way to it eventually
15:22:10  <Lejving> well nuts isn't only slugs is it
15:22:29  <V453000> of course not
15:22:46  <happpy> hi v hi lejving
15:22:48  <V453000> but since it doesn't have anything from the real world written on it, many people just don't like it
15:23:03  <V453000> spoilers: my next train set will not have anything from real world either :P
15:23:21  <Lejving> hey happpy
15:23:22  <Lejving> how things
15:23:38  <happpy> good thanks how things
15:23:46  <Cadadadry> hi again
15:24:00  <happpy> hi
15:24:03  * Cadadadry is everywhere, totally useless ^^
15:27:21  <happpy> hey v if i do a map for the openttdcoop stable server  can u restart the server  i mite fixs my upload maps problem
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15:44:29  <happpy> how the net work going lejving
15:52:27  <Lejving> not playing happpy
15:53:27  <V453000> wot
15:53:29  <happpy> ar ok same as me then
15:53:36  <V453000> yeah someone should make a new stable map
16:09:03  <V453000> Cadadadry: now download this
16:09:04  <V453000> !dl
16:09:04  <coopserver> V453000: !download lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
16:09:05  <coopserver> V453000:
16:09:15  <V453000> whichever is fit for your operating system :)
16:23:02  <Jam35> !dl
16:23:02  <coopserver> Jam35: !download lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
16:23:03  <coopserver> Jam35:
16:23:09  <Jam35> this is correct version
16:24:03  <Cadadadry> DLing...
16:25:33  <Cadadadry> installed. Do I have to restart game ?
16:26:02  <Jam35> yes it is separate install from stable (1.7.0)
16:26:26  * Cadadadry restarting game...
16:27:02  <Jam35> I mean, you could run both at same time, you need to launch correct version
16:27:57  <Jam35> and you need ottdcoop grf pack
16:27:59  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop wiki - (again, try !grf)
16:28:01  <Jam35> !grf
16:28:01  <coopserver> Jam35:
16:28:07  <Jam35> I think you got that already
16:28:23  <Cadadadry> game restarted, same problem (server locked)
16:28:41  <Jam35> what does title bar say?
16:29:00  <Cadadadry> openttd 1.7.0
16:29:17  <Jam35> it needs to say r27892
16:29:19  <Cadadadry> and a comment on the right side : "versions non identiques"
16:29:30  <Jam35> find the installation you just made :)
16:29:42  <Cadadadry> I have installed 27892 (and overwritten last one)
16:30:05  <Jam35> not if it says 1.7.0 sorry :)
16:30:11  <Jam35> that is stable branch
16:30:24  <Cadadadry> checking my link
16:32:20  <Cadadadry> ok my shortcut is pointing another version...
16:32:30  <Cadadadry> correct version started
16:32:41  <Cadadadry> server says it needs a password
16:32:45  <Jam35> !pw
16:32:45  <coopserver> Jam35: refits
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16:33:51  <coopserver> <Jam35> welcome :)
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16:34:18  <Jam35> ok bye
16:34:27  <Cadadadry> err msg : "your computer is too slow to follow the game" (personal translation)
16:34:48  <V453000> ._.
16:34:49  <Jam35> only 910 trains, slow internet?
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16:35:05  <Jam35> slow computer?
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16:35:08  <V453000> there's not even yeti or something to make it more demanding
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16:35:24  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> hi
16:35:28  <coopserver> <Jam35> hihi
16:35:36  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> game crashed when zooming out
16:35:51  <V453000> are you using 32bpp or 8bpp?
16:35:56  <coopserver> <Jam35> limit it in options if you need to...
16:36:14  <Lejving> rip
16:36:16  <Lejving> !pw
16:36:16  <coopserver> Lejving: refits
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16:36:49  <V453000> sup Lejv
16:36:58  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> hey folks
16:37:00  <Lejving> making sure my pond is still there
16:37:39  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> this game isnt really empty as new...
16:38:06  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> in #openttdcoop.stable you have your own company
16:38:10  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> so you can start from scratch
16:38:35  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> do you mean on this map here ?
16:38:42  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> no it's a diff map
16:38:45  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> ah
16:38:46  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> diff server
16:38:53  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> can we do that ?
16:39:00  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot>  #openttdcoop.stable
16:39:01  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> join it
16:39:19  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I'm in
16:39:43  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I mean in my FF
16:40:22  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> this map needs more trains
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16:42:33  <Cadadadry> I'm lost again
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16:44:39  <Cadadadry> which server is it to start a new coop game ?
16:44:45  <Lejving> #openttdcoop.stable
16:45:09  <Cadadadry> that's an irc page, ??
16:45:22  <Lejving> you're in the channel already
16:45:26  <Lejving> it's a diff server
16:45:27  <Cadadadry> yes
16:45:33  <Lejving> !ip
16:45:33  <coopserver> Lejving:
16:45:42  <Lejving> see the diff?
16:50:07  <Cadadadry> setting filter on "stable", no result...
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17:00:59  <Cadadadry> trying version 1.7. : public server joined, old game running...
17:18:03  <Cadadadry> back
17:25:15  <Cadadadry> !IP
17:25:15  <coopserver> Cadadadry:
17:26:34  <Cadadadry> I've lost track (!) of version needed for this coop version, can s.o. resend pls ?
17:26:54  <Jam35> !dl
17:26:54  <coopserver> Jam35: !download lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
17:26:55  <coopserver> Jam35:
17:27:32  <Cadadadry> thx
17:42:18  <Cadadadry> arff, Windows is hanging instead of copying files in place :/
17:49:17  <Cadadadry> ok I get it : game was still open (doh!)
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17:52:26  <Cadadadry> I see 2 missing modules, cannot be loaded in game : DB Set 0.82 (XL) 05.05.05, and North American City Set v0.1c
17:52:37  <Cadadadry> can I find them somewhere ?
17:52:50  <Jam35> you had them earlier :)
17:52:56  <Jam35> !grf
17:52:56  <coopserver> Jam35:
17:52:57  <Cadadadry> I guess so
17:53:11  <Jam35> they are part of openttdcoop grf pack
17:53:42  <Cadadadry> installing a separate version, guss I missed something...
17:53:59  <Jam35> no, they just have separate folders atm
17:54:37  <Jam35> read the readme
17:54:49  <Jam35> there is the paths you need
17:54:50  <Cadadadry> your link leads me to version 8.0 is that correct with this 1.7.1 ??
17:55:18  <Jam35> yeah that's the one
17:55:39  <Jam35> the grfs are universal to all game versions
17:55:40  <Cadadadry> do I have to install and overwrite 1.7.1 ?
17:55:46  <Jam35> no
17:56:02  <Jam35> just unzip the grf folder in the relevant place
17:56:32  <Cadadadry> ok
17:57:16  <Jam35> afk
17:59:22  <Cadadadry> the same two grf are still missing :/
18:11:16  <Jam35> they are in the pack
18:11:30  <Jam35> where did you unzip the folder?
18:13:11  <Jam35> mine is in documents/openttd/newgrf/...
18:13:28  <Jam35> as I said, look at the readme
18:13:50  <Jam35> it tells you all of the paths depending on OS etc
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18:19:16  <Cadadadry> looks like i've missed a part when installing this 1.7.1 version, got no newgrf folder..
18:21:28  <Cadadadry> I'm now totally lost between several versions and places, this is a mess
18:21:49  <Cadadadry> I need somebody on the mike...
18:27:46  <Arveen2> !players
18:27:46  <coopserver> Arveen2: There are currently 0 players and 1 spectators, making a total of 1 clients connected
18:38:51  <Cadadadry> deleted all versions except my old solo ;
18:39:08  <Cadadadry> wanting to install a fresh new one to play coop here :
18:39:40  <Cadadadry> do I have to install first : 1.7.1, or r27892 ? or anything else ?
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18:57:12  <happpy> hey jam
18:57:53  <happpy> u can bofe  on your pc
18:58:51  <happpy> u can openttd 1 7.1 and r27892  in your pc
19:00:00  <Cadadadry> looks like I was missing the base game in my previous attempt.  Can I copy my solo game (1.7.0) then overwrite it with 1.7.1 and r27892 ?
19:01:44  <happpy> 1.70   u can  for r27892  nit shor
19:02:49  <Cadadadry> trying...
19:07:36  <Cadadadry> !pw
19:07:36  <coopserver> Cadadadry: macosx
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19:08:03  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> hi again
19:08:43  <happpy> hi
19:08:57  <Cadadadry> it worked, but I had to run the exe in newgrf folder, not the one in openttd folder !
19:09:01  <Cadadadry> this is so weard
19:09:21  <Jam35> I have 1.7.1 RC (stable) installed using the windows installer AND a totally separate folder inside that called TRUNK in which I keep the public server, currently r27892, version
19:10:04  <Jam35> you just unzip the trunk version folder and run the exe from inside there
19:10:10  <Jam35> (no installer)
19:10:20  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> many comments are spread over the map, can I refresh it ?
19:10:40  <Jam35> refresh what?
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19:11:09  <Cadadadry> the map, to get rid of old comments
19:11:15  <Jam35> you can view all in map icon - sign list
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19:11:39  <coopserver> <Jam35> or x to toggle transparency
19:12:04  <coopserver> <Jam35> spanner icon, transparency options also
19:12:05  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> looks like they are posters...
19:12:30  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> around Plufingburg
19:13:03  <Jam35> that was a proposed plan
19:13:11  <Jam35> the actual plan is top corner
19:13:13  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> ah ok
19:13:37  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> well, what's your advice for me to start here ?
19:13:41  <Jam35> if they appear overlapping you mean? zoom closer
19:13:57  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> Ive done that ;)
19:14:06  <coopserver> <Jam35> ok :)
19:14:31  <coopserver> <Jam35> have you read any of our wiki for starters?
19:14:49  <Jam35> like this @quickstart
19:14:54  <Jam35> @quickstart
19:14:55  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop wiki -
19:14:56  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I've read many on wiki, and played the game in the 90's
19:15:09  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> but didnt read coop wiki
19:15:38  <Jam35> some basic stuff there might help 'cos we kind of have building rules n stuff
19:15:49  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> ah
19:16:23  <Jam35> it might help explain what we try to achieve in terms of network
19:16:33  <Cadadadry> ok
19:16:57  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> there's a lot to read..
19:17:00  <coopserver> <Jam35> soun
19:17:09  <coopserver> <Jam35> sounds boring I know
19:17:16  <coopserver> <Jam35> bu
19:17:21  <coopserver> <Jam35> omg
19:17:38  <coopserver> <Jam35> but we are at expanding stage
19:17:55  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> no prob I understand it's necessary
19:18:21  <coopserver> <Jam35> can you increase 2+2->2 to 3 or 4+4->4 ?
19:18:45  <coopserver> <Jam35> you might not understand :)
19:19:21  <Jam35> or make new SLH, something like that
19:19:57  <Cadadadry> I have to learn your language... ;)
19:20:39  <Jam35> the numbers refer to number of lines/tracks
19:20:50  <Jam35> so 2 + 2 ->2
19:21:13  <Cadadadry> 4 ?
19:21:14  <Jam35> means 2 lines plus another 2 merging to 2 output lines
19:21:20  <Cadadadry> ah ok
19:21:39  <Jam35> we are working on 4 lines currently
19:21:40  <Cadadadry> well there are 2 ways of doing that I guess
19:21:44  <Jam35> can get complicated
19:21:52  <Cadadadry> one easy but slows down flow
19:22:02  <Cadadadry> and one with tunnels and/or bridges
19:22:13  <Cadadadry> but it quickly becomes ugly
19:22:56  <Cadadadry> maybe you have some sample to show ?
19:23:04  <coopserver> <Jam35> was looking
19:23:21  <coopserver> <Jam35> ok find MSH 02 in sign list
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19:24:32  <Cadadadry> I see no signs list :/
19:24:40  <coopserver> <Jam35> map icon
19:24:49  <coopserver> <Jam35> hold button down, 4th option
19:25:13  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> ok I'm on
19:25:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> I labelled some stuff there
19:25:52  <coopserver> <Jam35> that is 2+2->2
19:26:02  <coopserver> <Jam35> inner mix style
19:26:04  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> yes, trying to understand the design...
19:26:22  <coopserver> <Jam35> in other words the two inner lines choose both output lines
19:26:33  <coopserver> <Jam35> the outer lines have priority
19:28:54  <coopserver> <Jam35> when you are done there look at BBH00 to see the scale of increasing the amount of lines
19:29:03  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> my game is in french, it'll be a bit hard to tell about various signals..
19:29:22  <coopserver> <Jam35> idk what you mean
19:29:51  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> info bubbles are in french in my game
19:30:00  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> never played it in english
19:30:23  <coopserver> <Jam35> what is info bubble? :D
19:30:51  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> a sticker activated by the mouse ;)
19:30:55  <coopserver> <Jam35> like, when you hover over icos?
19:31:03  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> never mind, I swithed option to english
19:31:31  <coopserver> <Jam35> so have you used presignals before?
19:31:50  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> since a couple of days, yes :)
19:32:02  <coopserver> <Jam35> ok hm:)
19:32:05  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I understand entry and exit signals link
19:32:23  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I didnt experiment all combinations though
19:33:02  <coopserver> <Jam35> ok look for sign !here
19:33:32  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> yes, I see the entry on inner track, but no exit
19:34:09  <coopserver> <Jam35> where? what? :D
19:34:27  <coopserver> <Jam35> where are you looking?
19:34:41  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> the entry signal making the inner track to lose priority, is supposed to work with an exit signal, esnt it ?
19:35:08  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> looking top left of your MSH 02 label
19:35:26  <coopserver> <Jam35> yes
19:35:39  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> junstion of two tracks into one
19:35:58  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> but I see a weard U crossing the outer track
19:36:39  <coopserver> <Jam35> that is priority logic track
19:37:03  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> do you see my sign ?
19:37:06  <coopserver> <Jam35> yes
19:37:13  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> "looking here (Cada)"
19:37:17  <coopserver> <Jam35> yes
19:37:29  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I dont see the point of that "U"
19:37:41  <coopserver> <Jam35> ok
19:38:12  <coopserver> <Jam35> those 2 entry signals
19:38:14  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I guess it's a way to keep distance between trains on same track ?
19:38:24  <coopserver> <Jam35> you see they turn red when train enters X
19:38:43  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> it's a bit too fast for me :D
19:38:53  <coopserver> <Jam35> just watch the X
19:39:04  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> and graphics are ugly when zooming
19:40:11  <coopserver> <Jam35> so when a train hits the X thelabelled entry signals say stop
19:40:30  <coopserver> <Jam35> effectively giving the X train priority there
19:40:31  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> ok
19:41:17  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I dont see how that entry signal can be linked to the other track
19:41:59  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> btw, I'm used to semaphores ;)
19:42:05  <coopserver> <Jam35> oh :)
19:42:26  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> they are easier to read from behind
19:42:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> the entry 'sees' the condition of any exit or combo signal in the following block
19:42:58  <coopserver> <Jam35> ANY
19:42:59  <coopserver> <Jam35> so
19:43:18  <coopserver> <Jam35> it even sees the backwards direction in this case
19:43:31  <coopserver> <Jam35> it is a two-way signal
19:43:44  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> oh !
19:43:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> signal 1 (combo signal)
19:43:55  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I should try that
19:44:41  <coopserver> <Jam35> you need the U shape track to continue the link
19:44:54  <coopserver> <Jam35> without it it would stop itself
19:44:59  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> why not simply use path signals ?
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19:45:38  <coopserver> <Jam35> we use signal gap 2 everywhere
19:45:56  <coopserver> <Jam35> path signals would slow
19:46:16  <coopserver> <Jam35> we want maximum throughput
19:46:34  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> signal gap 2 ? 2 squares ?
19:46:51  <coopserver> <Jam35> and anyway the path signals would not give any priority by themselves
19:47:10  <coopserver> <Jam35> signal , empty, signal, empty
19:47:16  <coopserver> <Jam35> 2 squares yes
19:47:20  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> ok
19:47:40  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I guess I understand, I should experiment to make and detect my mistakes ;)
19:48:06  <coopserver> <Jam35> well as I said our wiki is a good place to start
19:48:11  <coopserver> <Jam35> start with the basics
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19:48:44  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I kind of remember old origanal TTD bugs...
19:49:06  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> so I had to rethink my building with new stuff ;)
19:49:58  <Jam35> yes it wasn't really possible to have large networks like this
19:50:35  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> this is much more funny with new signals :)
19:51:57  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> is there a place I can start a new track ?
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19:52:39  <coopserver> <Jam35> what do you want to start?
19:53:06  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I dunno
19:53:12  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> depends on what you need
19:54:13  <coopserver> <Jam35> see sign !THIS
19:54:42  <coopserver> <Jam35> connect this primary ? to the SL
19:55:07  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> the SL ??
19:55:21  <Jam35> sideline
19:56:40  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> up right of the farm, ok ?
19:56:51  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> between depot and station
19:57:18  <coopserver> <Jam35> yes it's not too important
19:58:09  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I see several station types available, I dont have that in my solo game
19:58:16  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> which one do I need ?
19:59:11  <coopserver> <Jam35> whatever is prettiest
19:59:17  <coopserver> <Jam35> or not at all :)
19:59:30  <coopserver> <Jam35> doesn't matter
19:59:42  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> ah it's only grf
20:00:43  <Jam35> something that suits the industry type is always nice though
20:02:15  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> fully loaded trains might have trouble to start from here..
20:02:40  <coopserver> <Jam35> nah they are double headers
20:02:45  <coopserver> <Jam35> and powerful
20:02:54  <coopserver> <Jam35> anyway it is only SL
20:04:14  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> oops, my old reflex of semaphore :D
20:05:32  <coopserver> <Jam35> oh sorry
20:05:34  <coopserver> <Jam35> not there
20:05:58  <coopserver> <Jam35> that interferes with that station
20:06:14  <coopserver> <Jam35> I didn;t understand when you asked
20:06:20  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> yes, shortest way
20:07:00  <coopserver> <Jam35> driive on right please :)
20:08:00  <coopserver> <Jam35> so that is what I thought
20:08:18  <coopserver> <Jam35> do !this instead
20:08:25  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> looking for the steel mill
20:08:30  <coopserver> <Jam35> coal mine to the left
20:08:38  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> wait wait
20:08:49  <coopserver> <Jam35> we have only one steel mill
20:09:02  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> was wondering where to go
20:09:37  <coopserver> <Jam35> you would copy a current iron train's orders
20:09:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> and just change the primary
20:09:51  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I dont see the squares on the ground, this is confusing me ;)
20:10:38  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I see several power stations
20:10:44  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> which onoe is the goal ?
20:11:07  <coopserver> <Jam35> COAL DROP is in the station list
20:11:14  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> ah
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20:12:30  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> wow my puter is dying when zooming out...
20:13:05  <coopserver> <Jam35> mine is ok so far
20:13:12  <coopserver> <Jam35> but yes it does that
20:13:25  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> going south-west to MSH3, ok ?
20:13:47  <coopserver> <Jam35> what?  this?
20:13:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> no
20:14:04  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> I should let you build a branch to connect to
20:14:08  <coopserver> <Jam35> connect to SL
20:14:20  <coopserver> <Jam35> you should read wiki :)
20:14:28  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> ah
20:14:39  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> ok I'll go on reading after my next cig ;)
20:14:42  <coopserver> <Cadadadry> AFK
20:14:55  <coopserver> <Jam35> ok fine, see the line hierarchy stuff....
20:15:08  <Jam35>
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20:18:07  <Jam35> I have to go but GL :)
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20:24:41  <Cadadadry> cheers man, cya soon :)
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21:21:53  <Cadadadry> bye folks
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