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00:03:49 <PeterV> !players 00:03:49 <coopserver> PeterV: There are currently 3 players and 0 spectators, making a total of 3 clients connected 00:05:55 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> yeah 00:05:59 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> that a ideal spot 00:10:28 <coopserver> <nicfer> is there any drop station left? 00:12:45 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> thnk so 00:13:03 <coopserver> <nicfer> and should we start building the primary pick station? 00:13:08 <coopserver> <nicfer> stations* 00:13:14 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> HMMMMMMMMMMM 00:13:22 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> PeterV? 00:13:26 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> what your choice 00:13:31 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> -I think we should- 00:13:42 <PeterV> sounds fun :) 00:13:51 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Adjveran 00:13:54 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> K 00:13:55 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> so 00:14:05 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> where should we start? 00:15:05 <PeterV> I look for some sideline what easy to extend 00:15:10 <PeterV> some of them is really compact... 00:15:16 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ikr 00:15:31 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> but go to !HeRe 00:16:02 <PeterV> there are 3 !here in the sign list -_- 00:16:14 <PeterV> oh i see 00:16:14 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> IT !HeRe 00:16:35 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> It quite big 00:16:45 <PeterV> I see, so we need 2 pick up 1 drop for that right? 00:16:48 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> We could make a sub SLH juction to connect everything 00:17:23 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ? 00:17:41 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Wait what about the counter 00:17:50 <PeterV> I think we can do basic junction, and optimaze it later 00:17:55 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ah 00:18:03 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> But before go on dou 00:18:09 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> what about the supplies counter 00:18:51 <PeterV> idk 00:18:58 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ooof 00:19:01 <PeterV> you mean the timer? 00:19:12 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Go to ES Timer WP 00:19:22 <PeterV> it is looks like paused 00:19:32 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> yeah 00:19:33 <PeterV> we can start it when we are ready 00:19:39 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> okay 00:19:53 <PeterV> I think they just stoped it to prevent burning money 00:19:59 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> XD 00:20:36 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> So 00:20:40 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> we got the plan down? 00:21:13 <PeterV> I think we need, 2 pick up: soda ash and steel 00:21:22 <PeterV> and 1 drop of for energy 00:21:28 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Where? 00:21:40 <PeterV> but thi is the 1st time when I play with htis mod, so correct me if i am wrong 00:22:43 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> it not energy... 00:22:56 <coopserver> <nicfer> machinery 00:23:06 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ah 00:23:16 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ` 00:23:18 <PeterV> sorry I mean engiering 00:23:40 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Where does it bring up about soda ash 00:23:44 <coopserver> <nicfer> Requires: Machinery Supplies 00:24:23 <PeterV> are y sure you are at the good place> :) 00:24:39 <PeterV> Lafingbur Soda Ash Mine 00:24:49 <coopserver> <nicfer> Sodium ash mine 00:24:53 <coopserver> <nicfer> soda* 00:25:07 <PeterV> Require: Engineering Supplies 00:25:14 <PeterV> thats what i see on my screen 00:25:37 <coopserver> <nicfer> hmmm, translation error? 00:25:43 <PeterV> mine is english 00:26:05 <coopserver> <nicfer> yep, it's engineering 00:28:32 <PeterV> I just left some signs what you guys think? 00:36:00 <PeterV> ? 00:36:01 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Oh 00:36:02 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Oh 00:36:08 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> I was lost what you meant 00:36:15 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> but I see 00:36:19 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Nah 00:36:32 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> I think we should do something else the the engineering supplies 00:36:37 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> it is timed after all 00:36:57 <PeterV> I mean ther eis nothings gonna go there right now 00:37:14 <PeterV> just build the statsion now together with the pick up stations 00:37:38 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ah 00:37:39 <PeterV> oh i got you 00:38:33 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> kk 00:38:35 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> so 00:45:26 <PeterV> hm hard to make it w/o terra fomring :D 00:45:34 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> oof 00:48:47 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> I dont think it needs to be ro ro 00:48:57 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> we can always do it one rail 00:50:02 <PeterV> what we gonna do when pick up trains blokcing the drop stations? 00:50:08 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> k 00:50:10 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> fair enough 00:55:59 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:57:37 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Who online right now? 00:57:39 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> saym I 00:59:10 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> wait do we have farm supplies on the chain 00:59:21 <PeterV> idk 01:00:22 <PeterV> If I understand correcly: order for sode looks like this: pickup sode, got to the timer, drop of the soda 01:00:40 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> hmm 01:00:42 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> nah 01:00:46 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> idk 01:02:24 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Wait are we doing no orders 01:02:25 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> XD 01:02:32 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> or waypoint 01:05:38 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> .. 01:05:48 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> why is everyone quiet.. 01:05:56 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> 0.0 01:06:07 <PeterV> I just try to figure out the salt drop place 01:06:57 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> what you mean? 01:07:11 <PeterV> it is goes to chamical plan 01:07:16 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> yeah 01:07:59 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> oh 01:08:15 <PeterV> the plan says multi destination cargos 01:08:19 <PeterV> use pick up orders 01:09:44 <PeterV> CHamical plan has 3 station but there names ar emissing 01:09:50 <PeterV> idk which one is the salt drop 01:09:52 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ooof 01:09:53 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> oof 01:09:53 <PeterV> 1 srop 2 pick up 01:10:05 <PeterV> *1 salt drop 2 pickup 01:10:19 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Aicd and Cholrine 01:10:23 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> maybe we should mark it 01:10:41 <PeterV> I mean 2 terminus 1 roro 01:10:48 <PeterV> so my logic here roro gona be the drop 01:11:06 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ue 01:11:10 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> i bet the same 01:14:35 <PeterV> hmm no timer to salt :S 01:15:56 <PeterV> idk I give up I gonne see tomorrow when pro's are doing some great eaxample :D 01:16:32 <coopserver> *** PeterV has left the game (Leaving) 01:34:04 *** PeterV has quit IRC 01:35:25 <coopserver> <nicfer> petrol goes into oxygen furnace? 01:36:11 <coopserver> <nicfer> no, lime quarry? 01:37:18 <coopserver> <nicfer> lime kiln* 01:39:17 *** PeterV has joined #openttdcoop 01:41:03 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> idk 01:41:11 <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> `` 01:46:02 <coopserver> *** Imutrainfolks has left the game (Leaving) 02:35:12 *** PeterV has quit IRC 02:37:42 <coopserver> *** nicfer has joined spectators 02:37:43 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:09:51 <coopserver> *** nicfer has left the game (general timeout) 03:14:52 *** nicfer_irc has quit IRC 03:29:07 *** PeterV has joined #openttdcoop 03:37:12 *** PeterV has quit IRC 03:52:50 <Mark> hi 03:52:51 <Mark> !pw 03:52:51 <coopserver> Mark: plural 03:53:02 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 03:53:08 <coopserver> *** Mark has joined 03:53:09 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:53:10 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 03:54:03 <coopserver> <Mark> oh all built 03:54:04 <coopserver> <Mark> nice 04:27:51 <Mark> V453000: were missing a blast furnace :P 04:32:31 <coopserver> *** Mark has joined spectators 04:32:32 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 04:32:53 <coopserver> *** Mark has left the game (general timeout) 04:40:39 *** Mark has quit IRC 04:49:58 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 04:49:58 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 04:51:43 <Mark> !pw 04:51:43 <coopserver> Mark: unhide 04:51:49 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 04:51:54 <coopserver> *** Mark has joined 04:51:55 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 04:51:56 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 05:58:42 *** Imutrainfolks has quit IRC 06:59:30 <coopserver> *** Mark has left the game (Leaving) 06:59:31 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:05:33 *** cosmobird has joined #openttdcoop 07:07:03 *** Mark has quit IRC 07:10:33 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 07:10:34 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 07:44:27 <V453000> wtf 07:44:39 <V453000> !pw 07:44:39 <coopserver> V453000: occurs 07:45:36 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 07:45:39 <coopserver> *** V453000 has joined 07:45:40 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:45:41 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:45:44 <coopserver> *** V453000 has joined spectators 07:45:45 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:47:10 <coopserver> <V453000> oh yeah it was in my picture :) not in plan 07:50:11 <coopserver> *** V453000 has joined company #1 07:50:12 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:53:01 <coopserver> *** V453000 has left the game (Leaving) 07:53:02 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:53:37 *** Mark has quit IRC 09:07:12 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 11:02:07 *** ld50 has quit IRC 11:03:28 *** ld50 has joined #openttdcoop 11:27:23 *** StarLite has joined #openttdcoop 11:27:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o StarLite 12:04:11 *** Borg has joined #openttdcoop 12:19:20 *** nicfer-irc has joined #openttdcoop 12:19:48 <nicfer-irc> !password 12:19:48 <coopserver> nicfer-irc: issues 12:19:54 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 12:20:05 <coopserver> *** nicfer has joined 12:20:06 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:20:32 <V453000> heyo :) 12:22:10 <coopserver> *** nicfer has joined company #1 12:22:11 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:24:49 <Borg> yo 12:24:54 <coopserver> <nicfer> hi 12:25:19 <Borg> anyone bored enough to test GRF w/ me? ;) 12:25:28 <Borg> I want it in perfect shape before releasing 12:25:34 <Borg> its bug free... its rather about balance 13:04:54 <coopserver> <nicfer> can anybody help me with steel drop? 13:05:11 <coopserver> <nicfer> the pbs signal at PIPE PICKUP entry is not working 13:30:43 *** happpy has quit IRC 13:59:56 *** happpy has joined #openttdcoop 14:02:47 *** cosmobird has quit IRC 14:08:51 *** dominik has joined #openttdcoop 14:09:23 *** dominik has joined #openttdcoop 14:09:53 *** dominik is now known as Dom_ 14:09:59 <Dom_> hi 14:10:04 <coopserver> <nicfer> hey 14:13:09 <V453000> hi Dom :) 14:13:10 <V453000> nice to see you 14:13:15 <Dom_> Hey :9 14:13:18 <Dom_> :) 14:13:22 <Dom_> nice to see you too 14:13:22 <V453000> I noticed you a couple times on the welcome server recently but didn't reply fast enough 14:13:25 <V453000> how are you? 14:13:30 <Dom_> how have you been :) 14:13:57 <V453000> I'm great, busy as fuck but I am still around openttd :) I released BRIX a few months ago, now working on a new train set 14:14:05 <Dom_> very well been around a couple of years and didnt have time to play but yesterday i decidec i left a great community and i want to get back to the game :) 14:14:13 <Dom_> very nice :) 14:14:17 <Dom_> still got your snail? 14:14:39 <V453000> awesome, we have a nice game running here if you want to join ... pretty much nobody knows anything about FIRS3 so we are all kind of new :D 14:14:45 <V453000> yeah we still have one 14:15:00 <Dom_> yeah ofc :) 14:15:02 <V453000> it's probably not the original one you remember but well, it's a snail :D 14:15:03 <Dom_> only one? 14:15:22 <Dom_> i wanted to get one but they reproduce alot xD 14:15:36 <V453000> yeah, I had a snail, then I bought 2 engagement snails for wife but they both died over time and we replaced one with a new one ... that's the one we have today :D 14:15:48 <V453000> well one isn't going to reproduce by itself, they are hermaphrodites but still need two 14:16:54 <Dom_> oh ok. i read that one can reproduce all the time. yeah i want to get one for some time but my gf is afraid that we're gonna have thousands of them in a short time xFD 14:17:14 <V453000> no, one is perfectly fine 14:17:29 <V453000> actually, some are dumb enough to produce eggs even if they are alone, but the eggs won't hatch anything 14:17:42 <V453000> our current snail did that at some period 14:18:06 <Dom_> oh ok. yeah i was afraid that all the eggs are gonna hatch if you dont freeze them 14:18:39 <V453000> well that happens if you have at least 2 14:18:50 <Dom_> oh ok :) nice :D 14:19:21 <V453000> returns to openttdcoop 14:19:24 <V453000> learns about snails 14:19:25 <V453000> G_G 14:19:29 <Dom_> :D:D 14:19:39 <V453000> how do you like BRIX? :) 14:20:13 <Dom_> havent tried it out yet tbh. just played a lil bit yesterday to get the hang of things again 14:21:05 <V453000> it's on welcome server? 14:21:16 <Dom_> oh 14:21:17 <coopserver> *** nicfer has left the game (general timeout) 14:21:18 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 14:21:21 <V453000> ;D 14:21:28 <Dom_> yeah i like the sprites and colours :) 14:21:38 <nicfer-irc> !password 14:21:38 <coopserver> nicfer-irc: newest 14:21:40 <Dom_> i also tried the WET trains in single player 14:21:44 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 14:21:48 <Dom_> they look great :) 14:22:10 <V453000> :D 14:22:13 <coopserver> *** nicfer has joined 14:22:14 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:22:15 <V453000> you didn't see those before? 14:22:28 <coopserver> *** nicfer has joined company #1 14:22:29 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 14:22:37 <Dom_> nope havent played for 2,5 years xD 14:22:42 <Dom_> !download 14:22:42 <coopserver> Dom_: !download lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 14:22:43 <coopserver> Dom_: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r27951 14:22:58 <V453000> I think the wetrails are there for much longer but honestly my time scale is very blurred over the years 14:23:17 <Dom_> where can i get the newgrf for the public server? 14:23:18 <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart (again, try !grf) 14:23:23 <V453000> !grf 14:23:23 <coopserver> V453000: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/GRF 14:23:27 <Dom_> !grf 14:23:27 <coopserver> Dom_: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/GRF 14:23:28 <V453000> which one is missing? 14:24:07 <Dom_> sry got everything now xD 14:24:14 <Dom_> still getting the hang of it 14:24:20 <Dom_> !password 14:24:20 <coopserver> Dom_: earned 14:24:30 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 14:24:32 <coopserver> *** Dom has joined 14:24:33 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 14:24:54 <V453000> that's fine man :) 14:24:58 <V453000> !pw 14:24:58 <coopserver> V453000: earned 14:25:00 <Dom_> the new signals are a bit confusing for me :) 14:25:06 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 14:25:07 <Dom_> but i like the rails and bridges 14:25:08 <coopserver> *** V453000 has joined 14:25:09 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 14:25:26 <coopserver> <V453000> they are different but I believe they get a lot more consistent and readable once you get used to them 14:25:36 <coopserver> <Dom> ok :) 14:25:37 <coopserver> <V453000> I've been using them for over a year or something and I really like them 14:25:51 <coopserver> <Dom> i think i just need to get used to them :) 14:26:10 <coopserver> <V453000> yarr 14:27:06 <coopserver> <Dom> brb 14:29:10 <coopserver> <V453000> TL2 slugs are still the best shit ever witnessed 14:29:36 <coopserver> <V453000> maybe the new train set should be slugs only 14:37:30 <coopserver> <V453000> oh nobody built the blast furnace yet :D 14:38:16 <coopserver> <Dom> so back 14:38:27 <coopserver> <V453000> hi :) 14:38:29 <coopserver> <Dom> yeah i like those snail trains :) 14:38:42 <coopserver> <Dom> especially the cl ;) 14:38:51 <coopserver> *** Dom has joined company #1 14:39:32 <coopserver> <Dom> why are some snails running backwards? is that intentionaly? 14:39:38 <coopserver> <V453000> yeah 14:39:41 <coopserver> <V453000> they're confused 14:39:45 <coopserver> <V453000> I forgot the probability 14:39:50 <coopserver> <Dom> ah ok xD 14:48:56 <coopserver> <Dom> can i rebuild car parts pickup? 14:49:03 <coopserver> <Dom> it doesnt seem to work 14:49:13 <coopserver> <Dom> vehicle parts sry 14:49:16 <coopserver> <V453000> where? 14:49:24 <coopserver> <Dom> tyre plant 14:49:47 <coopserver> <Dom> visible depot and overflow not working 14:49:50 <coopserver> <V453000> the overflow is fucked? 14:49:54 <coopserver> <Dom> yep 14:50:02 <coopserver> <V453000> might be jsut a signal 14:50:14 <coopserver> <Dom> yep 14:50:34 <coopserver> <V453000> but yeah the overflow would be worth total rework 14:50:38 <coopserver> <Dom> ok 14:50:45 <coopserver> <V453000> so if you want, go ahead :) 14:50:46 <coopserver> <Dom> so i can learn again :D 14:57:45 <coopserver> <Dom> i think this should work if i'm not mistaken 14:58:11 <coopserver> <V453000> I think that should 14:58:19 <coopserver> <V453000> except the depot 14:58:28 <coopserver> <V453000> yeah now it does 14:58:37 <coopserver> <Dom> oh ok :) 14:58:41 <coopserver> <Dom> thanks :) 14:58:49 <coopserver> <V453000> entry signal = stop until exits free 14:58:51 <coopserver> <V453000> -> never depot 14:59:04 <coopserver> <Dom> oh that would be bad xD 15:01:41 <coopserver> <V453000> see, this shit is hard to forget :P 15:01:49 <coopserver> <Dom> hahaha true that :D 15:02:01 <coopserver> <Dom> i thought i forgotten the most of it :D 15:03:01 <coopserver> <V453000> we are way overproducing ES already 15:03:03 <coopserver> <V453000> ._. 15:03:12 <coopserver> <Dom> es? 15:03:16 <coopserver> <V453000> engineering suplpies 15:06:07 <coopserver> <V453000> oh that's where trains are stuck :D 15:06:08 <coopserver> <V453000> good 15:06:32 <coopserver> <V453000> ohh 15:06:38 <coopserver> <V453000> one overflow for 2 stations isn't that great idea 15:06:43 <coopserver> <nicfer> do you mean where I'm fixing? 15:06:44 <coopserver> <V453000> just wreck the area 15:06:46 <coopserver> <V453000> yeah 15:07:51 <coopserver> <V453000> someone stopped my logic trains :D 15:07:55 <coopserver> <Dom> xD 15:08:01 <coopserver> <Dom> boom 15:08:04 <coopserver> <nicfer> whoops 15:08:07 <coopserver> <V453000> big fix 15:08:08 <coopserver> <Dom> double XD 15:08:09 <coopserver> <V453000> :D 15:09:37 <coopserver> <Dom> im gonna rebuild sulphur pick 15:09:43 <coopserver> <Dom> at coke oven 15:10:01 <coopserver> <V453000> the station seems ok 15:10:03 <coopserver> <V453000> just fix overflow 15:10:07 <coopserver> <Dom> ko 15:10:09 <coopserver> <Dom> ok 15:16:49 <coopserver> <Dom> hmmm 15:17:28 <coopserver> <V453000> nicfer: the whole pf trap idea is not necessary if you just avoid using PBS, too 15:18:48 <coopserver> <nicfer> whoa, what was really close 15:21:00 <coopserver> <V453000> :) 15:23:30 <coopserver> <V453000> who built this in the first place? loeky? 15:23:45 <coopserver> <nicfer> what's what it's claimed 15:23:49 <coopserver> <V453000> ok 15:34:38 <coopserver> <V453000> you probably don't need doble bridges tehre but :) 15:42:43 <coopserver> <nicfer> there's pipes and veh bodies on the drop 15:42:48 <coopserver> <nicfer> steel drop* 15:43:07 <coopserver> <V453000> nonstop orders... 15:45:09 <Lejving> !dl win64 15:45:09 <coopserver> Lejving: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r27951/openttd-trunk-r27951-windows-win64.zip 15:46:45 <happpy> hey lejving 15:46:50 <Lejving> hey happpy 15:46:53 <Lejving> wassup fam 15:47:08 <coopserver> <Dom> hey happy 15:47:12 <happpy> good thanks 15:47:22 <Lejving> !pw 15:47:22 <coopserver> Lejving: banner 15:47:25 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 15:47:28 <coopserver> *** Lejvingbot has joined 15:47:29 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 15:47:46 <coopserver> <nicfer> can we use nonstop orders? 15:48:04 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> wow v what did you do with the signals 15:48:05 <coopserver> <nicfer> also, I'm off to lunch 15:48:13 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> they look dirty! 15:48:22 <coopserver> <nicfer> can someone keep working on steel drop? 15:48:28 <coopserver> *** nicfer has joined spectators 15:48:33 <coopserver> <Dom> where is that? 15:52:28 <coopserver> *** Lejvingbot has joined company #1 15:58:27 <coopserver> *** Lejvingbot has left the game (Leaving) 16:09:42 <coopserver> <Dom> so where is the steel whatnicfer was talking about? 16:10:48 <coopserver> <nicfer> back 16:10:52 <coopserver> <Dom> chlorine pickup 16:10:55 <coopserver> *** nicfer has joined company #1 16:10:56 <coopserver> <Dom> looks bad 16:13:00 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 16:13:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 16:17:41 <Maraxus> !pw 16:17:41 <coopserver> Maraxus: across 16:17:50 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 16:17:55 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has joined 16:17:56 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 16:19:11 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 16:25:36 <coopserver> <Dom> gonna get something to eat 16:25:37 <coopserver> <Dom> bbl 16:25:42 <coopserver> *** Dom has joined spectators 16:34:14 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 16:34:15 <coopserver> <V453000> it would make sense to do a bit of a rebuild on the ES station in the future :) 16:34:17 <coopserver> <V453000> making it work a bit better 17:04:35 <coopserver> <nicfer> is coal 1 overflow done correctly? 17:05:52 <coopserver> <Dom> which es station? 17:06:15 <coopserver> <nicfer> coal 1 pickup 17:07:06 <coopserver> <nicfer> northwest of BBH07 17:08:43 <coopserver> <Dom> maybe coal could use an own slh? 17:08:50 <coopserver> <Dom> or beginnings of an msh? 17:09:52 <coopserver> <nicfer> I think it just needs some clearance of bridges 17:11:05 <coopserver> <Dom> brb 17:58:38 <coopserver> <nicfer> FS PICKUP isn't receiving anything 18:00:40 <coopserver> <nicfer> there's no walker station to the slag factory 18:01:05 <coopserver> <nicfer> should I make it? 18:16:41 <coopserver> *** Dom has joined company #1 18:27:02 <coopserver> <nicfer> whoops, I made some more pig iron trains in the wrong depot, and now blast furnace slag pickup is getting that cargo 18:27:24 <coopserver> <nicfer> should I rebuild it? 18:31:33 <coopserver> *** nicfer has joined spectators 18:33:21 <coopserver> <V453000> ES seems to be working pretty well now 18:33:30 <coopserver> <V453000> the station could be abit better with dedicated overflows but 6 overflows is a bunch 18:33:49 <coopserver> <Dom> xD 18:34:00 <coopserver> <V453000> for now it's good enough as it still manages to fill a bit faster than the timer 18:43:01 <Jam35> !dl 18:43:02 <coopserver> Jam35: !download lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 18:43:03 <coopserver> Jam35: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r27951 18:43:17 <Borg> !status 18:43:17 <coopserver> Borg: I am connected to oftc as coopserver. 18:45:26 <Jam35> !pw 18:45:26 <coopserver> Jam35: marine 18:45:30 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 18:45:33 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has joined 18:45:34 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 18:45:59 <coopserver> <Dom> hi 18:46:04 <coopserver> <Jam35> hi Dom 18:46:14 <coopserver> <Jam35> good to see your name in chat again :) 18:46:24 <coopserver> <Dom> thanks :) 18:46:29 <coopserver> <Dom> how are you? :) 18:46:39 <Jam35> yeah good thanks, yourself? 18:47:08 <V453000> yo 666 :) 18:47:15 <Jam35> yo yo 18:47:26 <coopserver> <Dom> very well, been around alot and couldnt find the time to play for some time :) and now i found some new motivation 18:47:31 <V453000> we have a bitching game here, come join 18:48:02 <Jam35> game looks nice yes 18:49:15 <Jam35> I will be around in a while, really wanted to say hi 18:49:34 <coopserver> <Dom> cheers nice to so you :) 18:50:26 <Jam35> you too, I consider you to be like one of my mentors :P 18:50:46 <coopserver> <Dom> hahaha nice xD how come? :) 18:50:49 <Jam35> how you were not member before me idk :) 18:51:05 <Jam35> well I learned a lot from you on stable when I came here 18:51:31 <coopserver> <Dom> yeah same me :) just looked at some old games today from the public server :) great times 18:51:59 <Jam35> most are still here lurking :P 18:52:10 <Jam35> things are quiet these days 18:52:23 <coopserver> <Dom> but still mostly the same people? 18:52:41 <Jam35> sure, a few come and go as always, some are more hardcore :P 18:53:05 <coopserver> <Dom> haha ja like you and V and both of the other guys here in the game ;) 18:53:23 <Jam35> well exactly :D 18:53:27 <coopserver> <V453000> well I don't Really play too often 18:53:31 <coopserver> <V453000> I'm just around like a lazy piece of shit 18:53:37 <coopserver> <V453000> pretending to make a plan etc 18:53:46 <Borg> ;) 18:54:56 <coopserver> <Dom> i saw that there weren't many public games in the last year or so 18:54:56 <Jam35> I go walkies, back later and get my head round this :) bfn 18:55:06 <coopserver> <Dom> cya :) 18:55:40 <coopserver> <V453000> back soon 18:55:48 <coopserver> <Dom> cya :) 19:00:03 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 19:04:15 <coopserver> <Dom> whops 19:06:50 *** loeky has joined #openttdcoop 19:07:21 <loeky> !pw 19:07:21 <coopserver> loeky: matrix 19:07:39 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 19:07:41 <coopserver> *** loeky has joined 19:07:42 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 19:07:49 <coopserver> <loeky> hey 19:08:25 <coopserver> <Dom> hi 19:09:11 <Arveen> !pw 19:09:11 <coopserver> Arveen: endian 19:09:16 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 19:09:19 <coopserver> *** Ar-to-the-veen has joined 19:09:20 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 19:09:31 <coopserver> <Ar-to-the-veen> ermergerd 19:09:34 <coopserver> <Ar-to-the-veen> trains oh MLs 19:12:01 <coopserver> *** loeky has joined company #1 19:12:59 <coopserver> <Dom> the jam in the south was me. its fixed now 19:13:32 *** ForeverForgotten has joined #openttdcoop 19:13:47 <ForeverForgotten> !password 19:13:47 <coopserver> ForeverForgotten: volume 19:13:50 *** ForeverForgotten has quit IRC 19:13:54 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 19:14:19 <coopserver> *** ForeverForgotten has joined 19:14:20 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 19:19:12 <coopserver> *** ForeverForgotten has left the game (Leaving) 19:26:18 <coopserver> <V453000> 850 slugs already 19:26:35 <Arveen> almost as much as in my garden during summer 19:26:41 <coopserver> <V453000> :D 19:27:24 <coopserver> <V453000> well done on all those overflows Dom, I almost wanted to say we should make sure we are picking up from all secondaries 19:27:26 <coopserver> <V453000> :) 19:27:46 <coopserver> <V453000> Blast Furnace needs pickups btw :P 19:28:03 <coopserver> <Dom> openttd is like riding a bike ;) 19:28:26 <coopserver> <V453000> fall once, break head 19:28:43 <coopserver> <Dom> not if you're wearing a helmet ;) 19:28:53 <coopserver> <V453000> helmet doesn't help if you hit 1000 trains 19:28:54 <coopserver> <V453000> G_G 19:28:58 <coopserver> <Dom> XDD 19:30:11 <coopserver> <Dom> what pickups? 19:30:23 <coopserver> <Dom> oh 19:33:08 <coopserver> <loeky> like all trains only using 1 side of dual ml 19:33:19 <coopserver> <V453000> that's fine 19:33:22 <coopserver> <V453000> just low traffic 19:33:47 <coopserver> <Dom> for now 19:34:51 <coopserver> <loeky> would expect the pf would sent them both ways there 10 signal look ahead so it can do a beter job bye the looks of it 19:35:09 <coopserver> <V453000> btw loeky, 2 things: 1. building 1 overflow for multiple stations is generally a bad idea unless you make it real complex and real train-proof ... 2. PBS-based overflows are unreliable as fuck, I recommend avoiding them whenever possible ... you can try if you like self-torture :) 19:35:34 <coopserver> <V453000> speaking specifically about steel finishing station :) 19:36:17 <loeky> yeah i seen the rebuild i gave it 90% option to fail 19:36:40 <coopserver> <V453000> it's fine, just saying 19:36:45 <coopserver> <V453000> chemical plant will need some care too 19:37:03 <coopserver> <loeky> oh it jamed 19:37:13 <coopserver> <V453000> yes because the combo signal is sisible for the entry 19:37:36 <coopserver> <V453000> also the path between depot and station is 1.5 tile block, train can't fit and it locks the depot 19:37:53 <coopserver> <loeky> yeah and using path just drive me nuts 19:38:26 <coopserver> <V453000> nutez 19:41:15 <coopserver> <V453000> someone who was setting up many trains is not using non-stop orders 19:41:22 <coopserver> <V453000> please tell everyone you meet 19:41:24 <coopserver> <V453000> it's important 19:41:29 <coopserver> <Dom> which station? 19:41:34 <coopserver> <V453000> like all of them 19:41:37 <coopserver> <Dom> lol 19:41:46 <coopserver> <V453000> my suspect is Mark 19:42:10 <coopserver> <V453000> because nonstop orders aren't default and he probably has a new openttd install 19:42:29 <coopserver> <Dom> oh 19:42:30 <coopserver> <Dom> ok 19:42:34 <coopserver> <Dom> what new? 19:42:38 <coopserver> <Dom> newer version? 19:42:56 <coopserver> <V453000> no just a fresh install 19:47:49 <coopserver> <V453000> heh 19:47:52 <coopserver> <Dom> ... 19:47:54 <coopserver> <Dom> xD 19:55:09 <coopserver> <V453000> well there is more order in the orders now 19:55:21 <coopserver> <V453000> but I'm sure as fuck that there is a shitload more vehicles without nonstop orders 19:56:18 <coopserver> <V453000> btw don't build iron ore 03 19:56:24 <coopserver> <V453000> we didn't even connect 02 yet 19:56:46 <coopserver> <V453000> well it's built but no trains 19:57:02 <coopserver> <V453000> I'd say make gung ho on all current primaries first 19:58:21 <coopserver> <V453000> but yeah we can probably afford 02 for all 19:58:29 <coopserver> <V453000> ML is quite empty so far 20:00:46 <coopserver> <Dom> brb 20:04:11 <coopserver> <V453000> who connected train 897? 20:04:25 <coopserver> <V453000> Iron Ore 03? 20:07:06 <coopserver> <Dom> me? 20:07:09 <coopserver> *** nicfer has joined company #1 20:07:10 <coopserver> <Dom> why? 20:07:12 <coopserver> <nicfer> back again 20:07:16 <coopserver> <Dom> wb 20:07:23 <coopserver> <V453000> 1. the ES trains are working with waypoints at teh pickup 20:07:36 <coopserver> <Dom> oh ok i will change that 20:07:37 <coopserver> <V453000> 2. wait with that untill all current primaries are at gung-ho already 20:07:46 <coopserver> <Dom> ok havent sent them yet 20:07:47 <coopserver> <V453000> I will need to rebuild the ES pickup for that 20:08:03 <coopserver> <V453000> soon(tm) 20:09:13 <coopserver> <nicfer> FS PICKUP still isn't getting anything 20:09:44 <coopserver> <V453000> should now 20:09:52 <coopserver> <nicfer> that's what I was about to ask 20:10:02 <coopserver> <V453000> yeah now it does 20:10:40 <coopserver> <Dom> oh ok 20:10:44 <coopserver> <Dom> need any help? 20:10:53 <coopserver> <V453000> I'm making the design atm 20:11:09 <coopserver> <V453000> copypasting could come handy later :P 20:11:52 <coopserver> <V453000> SDKFDSJO 20:11:57 <coopserver> <V453000> fuck 20:12:04 <coopserver> <Dom> ? 20:12:20 <coopserver> <V453000> messing up :) 20:13:00 *** dr_gonzo has joined #openttdcoop 20:13:30 *** StarLite has quit IRC 20:13:37 *** dr_gonzo is now known as Guest1010 20:14:12 <coopserver> <V453000> yeah this will work 20:14:44 <coopserver> <V453000> hopefully 20:15:25 <coopserver> <V453000> might need magic dozing though 20:15:26 <coopserver> <nicfer> should I make (a) new SLH(s) for Coal 1 and/or Limestone 1? 20:15:43 <coopserver> <nicfer> they're getting very busy 20:16:03 <coopserver> <V453000> it would look nice too without the overpass 20:16:18 <coopserver> <V453000> if you want, go ahead :) 20:17:00 <coopserver> <nicfer> is 'SLH here?' a good place for coal? 20:17:21 <coopserver> <Dom> fuck... i build the iron ore 03 at the wrong building xD 20:17:31 <coopserver> <V453000> why not, or at the place of the Overpass 20:17:42 <coopserver> <V453000> I'd do ! SLH HERE 20:17:46 <coopserver> <nicfer> I'll let Overpass for Limestone 20:17:49 <coopserver> <V453000> it's nicely far from BBHs 20:17:58 <coopserver> <V453000> I'd kill overpass 20:18:46 <coopserver> *** loeky has left the game (general timeout) 20:19:48 <coopserver> <V453000> ok, I'm catching ES trains into depot 20:19:56 <coopserver> <V453000> don't be surprised about ES drying out soon :P 20:20:03 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has joined company #1 20:20:12 <coopserver> <Jam35> hi again 20:20:15 <coopserver> <V453000> yo 20:20:18 <coopserver> <Dom> wb 20:20:39 <coopserver> <Jam35> where is FS? 20:20:50 <coopserver> <V453000> FS is loading 20:20:54 <coopserver> <V453000> at FS pickup 20:21:03 <coopserver> <Jam35> silly question 20:21:04 <coopserver> <V453000> it doesn't need anything complicated 20:21:11 <coopserver> <Jam35> oh ok 20:21:12 <coopserver> <V453000> ES is dope as fuck 20:21:16 <coopserver> <V453000> now getting better 20:21:21 <coopserver> <Jam35> yeah that is why I wondered 20:21:46 <coopserver> <Jam35> so only ES is timer? 20:22:33 *** loeky has quit IRC 20:22:55 <coopserver> <Jam35> or Mark has neglected to build one at FS 20:23:07 <coopserver> <V453000> yes 20:23:10 <coopserver> <V453000> FS doesn't really need it 20:23:33 <coopserver> <V453000> I'll admit that mark is a fucking bastard any day though 20:23:40 <coopserver> <Jam35> ok, still catching up, plan still says so 20:23:42 <coopserver> <Jam35> haha 20:23:44 <Borg> lol 20:23:52 <coopserver> <V453000> yeye 20:24:04 <coopserver> <V453000> plan bad, bla bla 20:24:19 <coopserver> <Jam35> plan good, text bad is all :) 20:24:22 <coopserver> <V453000> :P 20:28:04 *** loeky has joined #openttdcoop 20:28:10 <coopserver> <V453000> rekt 20:28:13 <loeky> !pw 20:28:13 <coopserver> loeky: owners 20:28:26 <coopserver> <Dom> so es has to go via wp? 20:28:31 <coopserver> <V453000> yes 20:28:38 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 20:28:40 <coopserver> *** loeky has joined 20:28:41 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 20:28:57 <coopserver> <Maraxus> how many blast furnaces do we want? 20:29:04 <coopserver> *** loeky has joined company #1 20:29:19 <coopserver> <Dom> if i look to iron ore mine 01 es orders it has no wp in it 20:29:42 <coopserver> <V453000> why does iron ore mine 03 have trains now 20:29:47 <coopserver> <V453000> didn't we say that we wait? :D 20:29:56 <coopserver> <V453000> it's probably fine but wtf :D 20:30:02 <coopserver> <Dom> ups i thought you said ready before 20:30:20 <coopserver> <V453000> whatever we can most likely connect 2-3 types of each primary 20:30:23 <coopserver> <Dom> sry 20:30:31 <coopserver> <V453000> just rename iron ore 03 to iron ore 02 20:30:36 <coopserver> <V453000> and connect 2nd type of every primary 20:30:41 <coopserver> <V453000> leave out ES, just make stations 20:30:45 <coopserver> <V453000> and I will add ES soon 20:31:01 <coopserver> <Dom> ok done that 20:37:26 <coopserver> <Dom> why do we have 2 identical blast furnace named stations? 20:45:51 <Jam35> I thought I read something about that... 20:46:06 <Jam35> Mark said we didn't have a blast furnace 20:46:12 <Arveen> Legalise trucks in Mordor 20:46:16 <Arveen> eh, nvm 20:46:31 <Jam35> perhaps the stations were built but not named? idk 20:46:55 <coopserver> <Dom> they are named but have the same name 20:47:29 <Jam35> no but I assume when Mark said 'we haven't got one' he built his one 20:47:49 <Jam35> but perhaps the other one already existed but was not named 20:48:05 <coopserver> <Dom> yes and the other one is down south named /someone 20:48:16 <coopserver> *** loeky has joined spectators 20:48:52 <Jam35> according to plan, Mark's is in the right place 20:49:23 <Jam35> but that could have been added afterwards :P 20:49:23 <coopserver> <V453000> I built the blast furnace 20:49:31 <coopserver> <nicfer> SLH 19 may be done 20:49:43 <Jam35> mhm so why have we got 2 :P 20:50:08 <coopserver> <V453000> 2 blast furnaces? 20:50:09 <coopserver> <V453000> wut? 20:50:19 <coopserver> <V453000> oh lmfao 20:50:21 <coopserver> <V453000> he added it 20:50:23 <coopserver> <V453000> I didn't notice 20:50:25 <coopserver> <Dom> xD 20:50:33 <coopserver> <V453000> well, remove mine and turn it into a SLH :D 20:50:46 <coopserver> <Dom> so which will be the primary? 20:50:53 <coopserver> <V453000> just use Mark's 20:51:07 <coopserver> <nicfer> is ES pickup in remodelation 20:51:17 <coopserver> <V453000> yes 20:51:30 <coopserver> <V453000> moar bettar 20:52:23 <coopserver> <V453000> & biggar 20:53:35 <coopserver> <V453000> in fact half should be complete 20:55:00 <coopserver> <nicfer> will Coal 1 require it's own SLH? 20:55:12 <coopserver> <V453000> when it does, we can add it 20:55:24 <coopserver> <V453000> let's see 21:00:03 *** Borg has quit IRC 21:03:23 <coopserver> <Dom> thats a massive station V :D 21:03:43 <coopserver> <V453000> well, 18 overflows :) 21:03:50 <coopserver> <V453000> + release logic 21:04:55 <coopserver> <Dom> what does the release logic do? 21:05:14 <coopserver> <V453000> a timer which only lets ES be released X times a month 21:05:16 <coopserver> <Dom> or better said what is the purpose 21:05:22 <coopserver> <Dom> ok 21:05:30 <coopserver> <V453000> and a check which waits for all trains for all industries to be ready before the timer triggers 21:05:38 <coopserver> <V453000> splitting ES equally to all industries 21:06:07 <coopserver> <Dom> ah ok i understand. so they only get deliverd once all three months? 21:06:18 <coopserver> <V453000> more like 5 times every 3 months 21:06:20 <coopserver> <V453000> for gung ho 21:06:28 <coopserver> <Dom> nice 21:06:46 <coopserver> <V453000> it will likely be like 6-9 times every 3 months for some precision headroom 21:09:35 <coopserver> <V453000> should be ready now 21:10:04 <coopserver> <loeky> do the depots get even amount off trains 21:10:25 <coopserver> <V453000> no because the distance to primaries is different 21:11:53 <coopserver> <nicfer> who's repairing my overflow at Coal 1? 21:11:58 <coopserver> <Jam35> me 21:12:12 <coopserver> <nicfer> what was the problem? 21:12:22 <coopserver> <Jam35> trains forever cycling 21:13:05 *** Guest1010 has quit IRC 21:13:06 <coopserver> <V453000> sheit it seems to work 21:13:08 <coopserver> <V453000> :> 21:13:14 <coopserver> <Dom> nice :D 21:13:25 <coopserver> <Dom> i have sent the es trains from iron ore 02 21:13:31 <coopserver> <nicfer> it wasn't happening last time I checked, but seems something could break that 21:13:50 <coopserver> <V453000> which ones Dom 21:14:10 <coopserver> <V453000> they aren't gropued correctly 21:14:15 <coopserver> <V453000> and have wrong waypoint 21:14:17 <coopserver> <Dom> Engineering supplies 21:14:20 <coopserver> <V453000> and don't have nonstop orders 21:14:37 <coopserver> <Dom> why nonstop? 21:14:56 <coopserver> <V453000> to prevent them from s topping at random places when lost 21:15:32 <coopserver> <V453000> fixed 21:15:37 <coopserver> <Dom> thanks 21:15:42 <coopserver> <Dom> yeah i see what you did 21:15:45 <coopserver> <V453000> who touches ES trains will get hammered 21:15:52 <coopserver> <V453000> bastards :) 21:16:02 <coopserver> <Dom> ;) 21:16:27 <coopserver> <Dom> so nonstop orders only at es drop? 21:16:35 <coopserver> <V453000> nonstop orders everywhere 21:16:37 <coopserver> <Dom> i mean supplies drop 21:16:40 <coopserver> <V453000> that's one of our rules 21:16:49 <coopserver> <nicfer> why's there a 'swing' thing at the exit of ES pick? 21:16:51 <coopserver> <V453000> you should even set it to default in your settings 21:16:59 <coopserver> <Dom> ok will do 21:17:05 <coopserver> <V453000> only SRNW makes use of no non-stop 21:17:23 <coopserver> <V453000> nicfer: to make sure trains can't pathfind to other waypoints ... it would be unlikely but this is reliable 21:18:03 <coopserver> <V453000> and who in the shit 21:18:04 <coopserver> <nicfer> and it looks cool 21:18:11 <coopserver> <V453000> bought THE SLUG instead of RAINBOW SLUG 21:19:03 <coopserver> <V453000> ok so 21:19:11 <coopserver> <V453000> do we have 02 primaries ready? All of them? 21:19:14 <coopserver> <V453000> or only iron ore? 21:20:09 <coopserver> <nicfer> iron mines 1 and 2 seem to require their own SLH 21:20:39 <coopserver> <V453000> hehehe 21:20:44 <coopserver> <nicfer> and iron 1 trains have an invalid order 21:20:52 <coopserver> <V453000> omfg 21:21:03 <coopserver> <V453000> oh yeah 21:21:10 <coopserver> <V453000> someone deleted the station without rerouting trains 21:21:12 <coopserver> <V453000> ASPDISDGOUH 21:21:31 <coopserver> <V453000> please find the other trains which used to go to the original other blast furnace 21:21:41 <coopserver> <V453000> suspects: iron ore, coke and limestone trains 21:21:58 <coopserver> <V453000> note: shared orders aren't perfectly consistent, that won't help either 21:22:17 <coopserver> <Dom> ok 21:22:34 <coopserver> <V453000> we need the 2nd round of primaries, not just iron ore 21:22:45 <coopserver> <V453000> otherwise I will stop Iron Ore 02 ES 21:23:11 <coopserver> <Dom> what do you mean by second round primaries? 21:23:27 <coopserver> <V453000> the plan mentions we connect 1 of each primary type before connecting 2nd of each 21:23:36 <coopserver> <Dom> ok 21:23:40 <coopserver> <V453000> so now we need 2nd coal mine, 2nd farm, 2nd soda ash thing, ... 21:23:56 <coopserver> <V453000> that's how the ES thing works 21:24:03 <coopserver> <V453000> a full batch for each type 21:24:19 <coopserver> <V453000> we can build it differently but for diversity we want same amounts of each 21:24:25 <coopserver> <loeky> is your es station explaind on the wiki? 21:24:34 <coopserver> <V453000> no it's a new thing 21:24:46 <coopserver> <Dom> ok than i would delete iron ore 2 21:24:53 <coopserver> <V453000> Dom now it works 21:25:01 <coopserver> <V453000> it's actually coincidentally fine 21:25:09 <coopserver> <Dom> xD ok 21:25:11 <coopserver> <V453000> but the rest of the primaries need connecting still 21:25:27 <coopserver> <V453000> coal or quarry to be next would be best 21:25:37 <coopserver> <V453000> because then I can connect them immediately 21:25:43 <coopserver> <V453000> limestone, soda ash after 21:25:46 <coopserver> <V453000> and scrap yard last 21:26:03 <coopserver> <V453000> in other words the prerequisities are: iron ore - limestone - scrap yard 21:26:08 <coopserver> <V453000> and coal - quarry - soda ash 21:26:47 <coopserver> <Dom> gonna find a coal mine to connect 21:27:08 <coopserver> <loeky> how would the pf find a wrong waypoint n the exit of the es sation ? can figure it out 21:27:43 <coopserver> <V453000> well purely theoretically it could see the path to other waypoints through any roro station on the map 21:27:49 <coopserver> <V453000> but the penalty for it would be very high 21:28:13 <coopserver> <V453000> by locking it behind dead ends, I make sure that there is only 1 path to each waypoint and that is through the correct overflow depot 21:28:18 <coopserver> <nicfer> Coal 1 ES drop has coal 21:28:39 <coopserver> <V453000> that's why nonstop orders :) 21:28:48 <coopserver> <V453000> now we have to demolish Coal 1 ES and rebuild it 21:29:06 <coopserver> <loeky> verry nice 21:29:24 <coopserver> <V453000> solved 21:30:35 <coopserver> <V453000> trainzzz 21:31:50 <coopserver> <nicfer> I also had nonstop orders by default off, so my first trains could also be at fault 21:32:00 <coopserver> <V453000> plz fix :) 21:32:04 <coopserver> <V453000> yeah 21:32:48 <coopserver> <nicfer> now I activated it, will require closing the game so it's written in the cfg 21:33:04 <coopserver> <nicfer> I've reinstalled the game, and all config is reset 21:33:16 <coopserver> <V453000> arr 21:33:48 <coopserver> <nicfer> also, a light cut close my game last night, and the settings were also reset there 21:36:53 <coopserver> <nicfer> do we need more ES trains for Iron Ore 2? 21:37:03 <coopserver> <Maraxus> every coke,limestone, iron ore train checked for invalid orders 21:37:57 <coopserver> <V453000> thank you very much Maraxus 21:39:14 <coopserver> <V453000> if the timer train is waiting at the yellow tile, we need more trains of some kind 21:39:22 <coopserver> <V453000> if not, it's fine 21:39:50 <coopserver> <Dom> so gonna connect coal 2 soon 21:39:55 <coopserver> <V453000> good 21:40:01 <coopserver> <V453000> I'll prepare ES trains 21:42:24 <coopserver> <nicfer> isn't it too close to the drop? 21:42:49 <coopserver> <Dom> what? 21:42:51 <coopserver> <Dom> c 21:42:53 <coopserver> <Dom> coal? 21:43:07 <coopserver> <Dom> ups 21:43:09 <coopserver> <Dom> fuck 21:43:20 <coopserver> <nicfer> yeah, it's right there 21:43:31 <coopserver> <V453000> XD 21:44:03 <coopserver> <Dom> well at least i'm getting some practice on building stations xD 21:44:09 <coopserver> <V453000> :) 21:44:32 <coopserver> <nicfer> I'll try on te coal mine near slh 18 21:44:38 <coopserver> <Dom> ok 21:44:49 <coopserver> <Maraxus> do we only want gung-ho or should we have a decent transportation rate for secondaries as well? 21:44:50 <Jam35> let's just fund another industry right there and use it? 21:45:00 <coopserver> <V453000> both Maraxus 21:46:15 <coopserver> <Maraxus> in that case we might be in for some expansion or fixing work very soon 21:46:27 <coopserver> <V453000> that's fine, LL_RR isn't much anyway 21:47:02 <coopserver> <Dom> brb 21:49:31 <coopserver> <V453000> 1000 moving shits 21:51:25 <coopserver> <V453000> I was just about to complain that stuff isn't gung-ho and the mine I was observing turned gung-ho 21:51:26 <coopserver> <V453000> :) 21:51:52 <coopserver> <V453000> yeah transporting everything from 1 round of primaries at gung how will already be a lot 21:52:52 <coopserver> *** Ar-to-the-veen has left the game (Leaving) 21:53:01 <coopserver> <V453000> votes to stop working on 2nd level and remove iron ore 02 for now? 21:53:15 <coopserver> <V453000> and instead focus on picking up all current production including primaries and expanding? 21:53:20 <coopserver> <Maraxus> I agree 21:53:27 <coopserver> <V453000> Dom: ^ 21:54:05 <coopserver> <V453000> I would actually remove Iron ore 02 completely 21:54:22 <coopserver> <V453000> it would be nicer to have the 2nd iron ore mine on a different SLH 21:54:51 <V453000> @stage Expanding, Satisfying all industries 21:54:51 *** Webster changes topic to "Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG#329 (r27951) | STAGE: Expanding, Satisfying all industries | www.openttdcoop.org | Help for newcomers: https://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart | Other game channels: #openttdcoop.stable , #openttdcoop.pro | TS3: voice.openttdcoop.org | Enjoy your stay!" 21:54:54 <coopserver> <Dom> ok can do that 21:56:05 <coopserver> <Jam35> the production is what 500+units per month? seems a lot to move with TL2 slugs :) 21:56:15 <coopserver> <Jam35> so yeah, agreed 21:56:18 <coopserver> <V453000> on an iron ore mine it seems to be 680 21:56:34 <coopserver> <V453000> iron ore mine 01 has a shitload of trains 21:56:40 <coopserver> <V453000> and not enough 21:56:46 <coopserver> <Jam35> some big stations coming up 21:57:02 <coopserver> <V453000> alright 21:57:07 <coopserver> <V453000> no more primaries for now :) 21:57:16 <coopserver> <Jam35> (not volunteering yet) 21:57:37 <coopserver> <Jam35> will be back tomorrow, gn 21:57:41 <coopserver> <V453000> gn 21:57:44 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has left the game (Leaving) 21:57:49 <coopserver> <Maraxus> gn 21:57:56 <coopserver> <loeky> gn 21:58:05 <coopserver> <Dom> n8 21:58:39 <coopserver> <V453000> nice, manganese pickup didn't even have full load order :D 21:59:44 <Lejving> !pw 21:59:44 <coopserver> Lejving: bufpos 21:59:47 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 21:59:50 <coopserver> *** Lejvingbot has joined 21:59:51 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 21:59:55 <coopserver> <V453000> hi Lejv :) 21:59:57 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> sup fam 22:00:01 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> v 22:00:06 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> why did you dirty down the signals 22:00:07 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> :( 22:00:12 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> they looked so clean before 22:00:32 <coopserver> <V453000> yeah and now they look better 22:00:39 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> I guess lol 22:00:57 <coopserver> <V453000> blast furnace dying :D 22:01:26 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> this game clearly needs more trains 22:01:30 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> no congestions anywhere 22:01:38 <coopserver> <V453000> I just spammed a lot 22:01:47 <coopserver> <V453000> things about to go fucked soon 22:02:08 <coopserver> <V453000> who is selling ES trains ? :D 22:02:10 <coopserver> <V453000> murderer 22:02:20 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> slh 17 22:02:21 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> is gg 22:02:23 <coopserver> <Dom> me :) 22:02:26 <coopserver> <Dom> iron2 22:02:34 <coopserver> <V453000> ah 22:02:35 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> the in in slh 17 22:02:36 <coopserver> <V453000> cool 22:02:41 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> looks like deadmode 22:02:44 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> or what was it called 22:02:47 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> doom mode 22:02:50 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> dead mode 22:03:02 <coopserver> <V453000> Lejvingbot: fix it :) 22:03:09 <coopserver> *** Lejvingbot has joined company #1 22:03:10 <coopserver> <V453000> you are officially tasked now 22:03:19 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> what was it called 22:03:22 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> when like they take every other 22:03:29 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> like if you do presignals on bridges 22:03:31 <coopserver> <V453000> problem 22:03:41 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> yeah it is indeed a problem :P 22:03:47 <coopserver> <V453000> generally evil mode, in this case it's just not split X 22:03:53 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> oh yeah 22:03:54 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> evil mode 22:03:55 <coopserver> <V453000> and 1 track throughput to the north 22:03:56 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> that was it 22:05:04 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> ah well 22:05:07 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> it solved itself now 22:05:08 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> gg 22:05:12 <coopserver> <V453000> :D 22:05:24 <coopserver> *** loeky has joined company #1 22:05:33 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> christ was so long time ago I played 22:05:35 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> I forgot everything 22:05:57 <coopserver> <V453000> we just agreed with Dom today that this game is impossible to forget 22:05:59 <coopserver> <V453000> go argue with him 22:06:06 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> Dom 22:06:07 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> you're wrong 22:06:11 <coopserver> <V453000> gg 22:06:30 <coopserver> <Dom> havent played in some years but its coming back quite fast ;) 22:06:38 <coopserver> <Dom> like riding a bike ;) 22:06:43 <coopserver> <Dom> *with a helmet :P 22:06:56 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> I need a helmet irl 22:07:39 <coopserver> <V453000> would be nice to have more primaries around SLH 01 in the future 22:07:45 <coopserver> <V453000> that map end is quite empty 22:08:22 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> how do I get sign list again lmao 22:08:36 <coopserver> <Dom> hold the map button 22:08:37 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> found it 22:08:53 <coopserver> <V453000> he's just trying to prove his point 22:08:54 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> oh slh is top 22:09:01 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> slh 01 22:09:21 <coopserver> <Dom> ;) 22:09:39 <coopserver> <Dom> hmmm cant find train 956 es iron ore mine 02 22:10:04 <coopserver> <V453000> which train 956 22:10:08 <coopserver> <Dom> :) 22:10:36 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> I don't think I played this mode too much 22:10:38 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> what is this even 22:10:46 <coopserver> <V453000> FIRS3 is quite new 22:11:36 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> slh01 22:11:42 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> is weird 22:11:43 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> imo 22:11:53 <coopserver> <V453000> well there is barely any atraffic 22:11:55 <coopserver> <V453000> so it's fine 22:11:57 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> y 22:12:00 <coopserver> <V453000> yes it has it's issues 22:12:08 <coopserver> <V453000> fix when they show :) 22:13:18 <coopserver> <Dom> slh 12 22:14:33 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> I think I made it worse 22:14:34 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> gg 22:14:57 <coopserver> <V453000> how in the shit are we producing so many vehicles 22:15:03 <coopserver> <loeky> think the wierd ness is on the merge splits was good im 22:15:04 <coopserver> <V453000> I thought that cargo should be low throughput :D 22:16:19 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> so 22:16:20 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> what can i add 22:16:25 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> steel? 22:16:35 <coopserver> <V453000> you mean trains? 22:16:42 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> oh wait that's a hard one since I need steel+zinc+acid 22:16:45 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> err 22:16:51 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> do we need limestone? 22:17:02 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> and do we have ES? 22:17:07 <coopserver> <V453000> don't add any primaries for now 22:17:17 <coopserver> <V453000> make sure every pickup has no cargo waiting first 22:17:18 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> oh but you told me to add stuff to slh01 22:17:27 <coopserver> <V453000> yeah in the future 22:17:30 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> ok 22:18:13 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> when I played this game daily 22:18:18 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> you never understood how complicated it was I think 22:18:32 <coopserver> <V453000> wot 22:18:47 <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> I'm fucking lost atm 22:19:46 <coopserver> <loeky> bbh 01 no longer has sg but also no more prio wahts wores? 22:20:04 <coopserver> <V453000> signal gap is a problem 22:20:10 <coopserver> <V453000> prio depends on the merger 22:20:18 *** petvas has joined #openttdcoop 22:20:40 <coopserver> <V453000> we can keep prios very short with TL2 slugs 22:21:26 <coopserver> <loeky> sure and there fast 22:22:51 <coopserver> *** Lejvingbot has left the game (Leaving) 22:22:58 <Lejving> I'm noob gg 22:23:29 <petvas> I tried to figure out salt, yesterday, there was no timer for that.. 22:23:45 <petvas> it can go to immediately the drop station? 22:23:47 <coopserver> <V453000> Salt is always in Soda Ash mine, r ight? 22:23:51 <coopserver> <nicfer> Coal 2is (kinda) done 22:24:07 <coopserver> <V453000> nicfer please no more primaries for now 22:24:12 <coopserver> <V453000> keep teh station but don't connect things to it 22:24:14 <coopserver> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 22:24:19 <petvas> idk I am at work I don't see it right now 22:24:24 <Dom_> lol game crash 22:24:39 <coopserver> <nicfer> didn't we needed a second coal pickup? 22:24:45 <coopserver> <V453000> n 22:24:50 <coopserver> <V453000> we canceled it 22:24:54 <Dom_> !password 22:24:55 <coopserver> Dom_: comply 22:24:59 <coopserver> <V453000> we need to make the network function with what we have now first 22:25:00 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 22:25:02 <coopserver> *** Dom has joined 22:25:03 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 22:25:16 <coopserver> <V453000> yeah petvas, soda ash mine always gives salt and soda 22:25:21 <coopserver> <V453000> the ES are only per industry not per cargo 22:25:26 <coopserver> <loeky> someone building slh12? 22:25:35 <coopserver> <nicfer> beware that ES Pickup has vehicles on it 22:25:45 <coopserver> <V453000> ._. 22:25:50 <coopserver> <V453000> FUCKING nonstop orders :( 22:26:14 <coopserver> <nicfer> train 13 has no non-stop 22:26:26 <coopserver> <V453000> all orders must be non-stop 22:26:30 <coopserver> <nicfer> added 22:27:01 <petvas> so just to make clear I need to set: Pickup Salt, go through soda clock, go to salt drop? (sorry it is a little bit confusing for me, I just give up yesterday and didn't do anything.... :D) 22:27:02 <coopserver> <V453000> we would REALLY need someone to go through all orders and see if they are shared in 1 shared order link per industry/route, and if all orders are non-stop 22:27:06 <coopserver> <nicfer> train 600 also lacks it 22:27:11 <coopserver> <V453000> nono petvas 22:27:15 <coopserver> <V453000> pickup salt, go to salt drop 22:27:16 <coopserver> <nicfer> and now it has them 22:27:35 <petvas> okey, thank you 22:27:42 <coopserver> <V453000> ES trains get 1. go through soda ash waypoint, 2. es pickup, 3. soda ash mine ES drop 22:27:52 <petvas> I hope there will be some train already when I go to home to play, so I can use them as a reference :) 22:27:57 <coopserver> <V453000> preferably don't touch ES trains unles you feel very brave 22:28:06 <coopserver> <V453000> there are 1200 trains right now 22:28:14 <petvas> lol cool 22:28:16 <coopserver> <V453000> don't add more primaries for now :) 22:28:41 <petvas> I am happy to optimize my hubs too... 22:28:52 <V453000> @stage Expanding, Satisfying all productions. DO NOT ADD NEW PRIMARIES YET! 22:28:52 *** Webster changes topic to "Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG#329 (r27951) | STAGE: Expanding, Satisfying all productions. DO NOT ADD NEW PRIMARIES YET! | www.openttdcoop.org | Help for newcomers: https://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart | Other game channels: #openttdcoop.stable , #openttdcoop.pro | TS3: voice.openttdcoop.org | Enjoy your stay!" 22:28:58 <coopserver> <nicfer> also, there's two sets of vehicle trains that don't share orders 22:29:08 <coopserver> <V453000> it probably won't be about optimizing, rather about simply building MOAR tracks 22:29:19 <coopserver> <V453000> there's a lot of those nicfer 22:29:31 <coopserver> <V453000> it would be great to make the missing links 22:31:04 <coopserver> <nicfer> more all-stop trains fixed 22:31:57 <coopserver> <V453000> :) 22:32:32 <coopserver> <nicfer> and more 22:34:52 <coopserver> <V453000> it's quite interesting that the vehicle trains were even trying to path through the ES pickup 22:34:57 <coopserver> <V453000> because the ES pickup is a dead end 22:35:46 <coopserver> *** loeky has joined spectators 22:37:45 <coopserver> <loeky> should we stop all trains jamed now case rebuild 22:38:07 <coopserver> <V453000> should try to keep traffic moving 22:38:19 <coopserver> <Dom> yeah was rebuildng something 22:38:27 <coopserver> <Dom> was about to start them again 22:38:29 <coopserver> <Dom> sry 22:38:36 <coopserver> <V453000> if it's ultra absolutely mega necessary, stop trains 22:38:47 <coopserver> <Dom> ok 22:38:53 <coopserver> <V453000> but from past experience I can say that it's not that hard to avoid stopping traffic 22:41:19 <coopserver> *** Dom has left the game (Leaving) 22:41:36 <Dom_> !password 22:41:36 <coopserver> Dom_: blades 22:41:51 <Dom_> !password 22:41:51 <coopserver> Dom_: screws 22:42:01 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 22:42:02 <coopserver> *** Dom has joined 22:42:03 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 22:42:10 <coopserver> <V453000> it's not that easy to leave eh :P 22:42:19 <coopserver> <Dom> ;) 22:42:29 <coopserver> <Dom> just wanted to save the settings if i crash again xD 22:42:44 <coopserver> <V453000> good idea 22:46:59 <coopserver> <loeky> glasswork ovf locked 22:47:15 <coopserver> *** loeky has joined company #1 22:50:12 <coopserver> <loeky> slh 02 is getting full 22:50:26 <coopserver> <Maraxus> every order (didn't check es-trains) should be non-stop now if people used shared orders properly 22:50:45 <coopserver> <V453000> that's a big if Maraxus :D 22:50:46 <coopserver> <V453000> let's see 22:52:26 <coopserver> <V453000> SLH 02 a bit better but it won't last for too long when we expand other things 22:53:41 <coopserver> <loeky> if short on space there is an other island near it 22:53:52 <coopserver> <V453000> hehe 22:53:53 <coopserver> <V453000> yes 22:54:17 <coopserver> <loeky> seems that bbh01 is on limmit as well 22:54:27 <coopserver> <V453000> yeah with BBH 02 22:54:58 <coopserver> <Maraxus> I'm off - gn 22:55:03 <coopserver> <loeky> gn 22:55:05 <coopserver> <Dom> n8 22:55:07 <coopserver> *** loeky has joined spectators 22:55:08 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has left the game (Leaving) 22:55:09 <coopserver> <V453000> bai 22:55:20 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 22:58:07 <coopserver> <nicfer> 1200 trains mark! 22:58:18 <coopserver> <loeky> cant see any flow problems we dit good also good balance between bbhs good plan 22:58:50 <coopserver> <V453000> moar waiting cargo eliminating :) 22:59:06 <coopserver> <loeky> damm spoe to soon see slh 01 at town 22:59:11 <coopserver> <V453000> XD 23:00:18 <coopserver> *** loeky has joined company #1 23:00:21 <coopserver> <V453000> 2 platforms is really on the edge with gung ho primaries 23:00:30 <coopserver> <V453000> maybe even insufficient 23:00:34 <coopserver> <V453000> Coal 01 isn't really keeping up 23:00:45 <coopserver> <V453000> well nvm 23:00:49 <coopserver> <V453000> sometimes there just are no trains 23:02:34 <coopserver> <loeky> slh 17 somtimes to slow 23:03:05 <coopserver> <V453000> PBS crossings :) 23:03:40 <coopserver> <nicfer> Coal 01 has a lot of trains on depot 23:03:41 <coopserver> <loeky> yeah and short split so you get jam fast 23:03:48 <coopserver> <V453000> I just made them nicfer 23:04:27 <coopserver> <loeky> well should be sleeping so see you 23:04:33 <coopserver> <Dom> n8 23:04:41 <coopserver> *** loeky has joined spectators 23:04:49 <coopserver> *** loeky has left the game (Leaving) 23:05:24 <coopserver> <nicfer> anyways, if it's production increases, it will require either more platforms or a separate exit track 23:05:37 <coopserver> <V453000> it won't increase anymore 23:05:56 <coopserver> <V453000> I think it will work, barely but will 23:06:41 *** loeky has quit IRC 23:07:42 <coopserver> <Dom> game looks great :) 23:07:46 <coopserver> <Dom> good to be back :) 23:07:47 <coopserver> <V453000> does 23:07:55 <coopserver> <V453000> iz 23:08:07 <coopserver> <Dom> anyway im gonna go get some sleep 23:08:15 <coopserver> <Dom> gn8 23:08:18 <coopserver> <V453000> gn 23:08:25 <coopserver> *** Dom has left the game (Leaving) 23:08:30 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 23:10:39 <coopserver> <V453000> ok SLH 17 faster now 23:10:41 <coopserver> <V453000> gnight 23:11:12 <coopserver> *** V453000 has left the game (Leaving) 23:25:21 *** petvas has quit IRC 23:52:54 *** ForeverForgotten has joined #openttdcoop 23:53:37 <ForeverForgotten> !password 23:53:37 <coopserver> ForeverForgotten: counts 23:53:41 *** ForeverForgotten has quit IRC 23:53:45 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 23:53:53 <coopserver> *** ForeverForgotten has joined 23:53:54 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 23:54:56 <coopserver> *** ForeverForgotten has left the game (Leaving)