Log for #openttdcoop on 3rd January 2018:
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00:03:49  <PeterV> !players
00:03:49  <coopserver> PeterV: There are currently 3 players and 0 spectators, making a total of 3 clients connected
00:05:55  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> yeah
00:05:59  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> that a ideal spot
00:10:28  <coopserver> <nicfer> is there any drop station left?
00:12:45  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> thnk so
00:13:03  <coopserver> <nicfer> and should we start building the primary pick station?
00:13:08  <coopserver> <nicfer> stations*
00:13:14  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> HMMMMMMMMMMM
00:13:22  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> PeterV?
00:13:26  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> what your choice
00:13:31  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> -I think we should-
00:13:42  <PeterV> sounds fun :)
00:13:51  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Adjveran
00:13:54  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> K
00:13:55  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> so
00:14:05  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> where should we start?
00:15:05  <PeterV> I look for some sideline what easy to extend
00:15:10  <PeterV> some of them is really compact...
00:15:16  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ikr
00:15:31  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> but go to !HeRe
00:16:02  <PeterV> there are 3 !here in the sign list -_-
00:16:14  <PeterV> oh i see
00:16:14  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> IT !HeRe
00:16:35  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> It quite big
00:16:45  <PeterV> I see, so we need 2 pick up 1 drop for that right?
00:16:48  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> We could make a sub SLH juction to connect everything
00:17:23  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ?
00:17:41  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Wait what about the counter
00:17:50  <PeterV> I think we can do basic junction, and optimaze it later
00:17:55  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ah
00:18:03  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> But before go on dou
00:18:09  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> what about the supplies counter
00:18:51  <PeterV> idk
00:18:58  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ooof
00:19:01  <PeterV> you mean the timer?
00:19:12  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Go to ES Timer WP
00:19:22  <PeterV> it is looks like paused
00:19:32  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> yeah
00:19:33  <PeterV> we can start it when we are ready
00:19:39  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> okay
00:19:53  <PeterV> I think they just stoped it to prevent burning money
00:19:59  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> XD
00:20:36  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> So
00:20:40  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> we got the plan down?
00:21:13  <PeterV> I think we need, 2 pick up: soda ash and steel
00:21:22  <PeterV> and 1 drop of for energy
00:21:28  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Where?
00:21:40  <PeterV> but thi is the 1st time when I play with htis mod, so correct me if i am wrong
00:22:43  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> it not energy...
00:22:56  <coopserver> <nicfer> machinery
00:23:06  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ah
00:23:16  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> `
00:23:18  <PeterV> sorry I mean engiering
00:23:40  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Where does it bring up about soda ash
00:23:44  <coopserver> <nicfer> Requires: Machinery Supplies
00:24:23  <PeterV> are y sure you are at the good place> :)
00:24:39  <PeterV> Lafingbur Soda Ash Mine
00:24:49  <coopserver> <nicfer> Sodium ash mine
00:24:53  <coopserver> <nicfer> soda*
00:25:07  <PeterV> Require: Engineering Supplies
00:25:14  <PeterV> thats what i see on my screen
00:25:37  <coopserver> <nicfer> hmmm, translation error?
00:25:43  <PeterV> mine is english
00:26:05  <coopserver> <nicfer> yep, it's engineering
00:28:32  <PeterV> I just left some signs what you guys think?
00:36:00  <PeterV> ?
00:36:01  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Oh
00:36:02  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Oh
00:36:08  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> I was lost what you meant
00:36:15  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> but I see
00:36:19  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Nah
00:36:32  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> I think we should do something else the the engineering supplies
00:36:37  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> it is timed after all
00:36:57  <PeterV> I mean ther eis nothings gonna go there right now
00:37:14  <PeterV> just build the statsion now together with the pick up stations
00:37:38  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ah
00:37:39  <PeterV> oh i got you
00:38:33  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> kk
00:38:35  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> so
00:45:26  <PeterV> hm hard to make it w/o terra fomring :D
00:45:34  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> oof
00:48:47  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> I dont think it needs to be ro ro
00:48:57  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> we can always do it one rail
00:50:02  <PeterV> what we gonna do when pick up trains blokcing the drop stations?
00:50:08  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> k
00:50:10  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> fair enough
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00:57:37  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Who online right now?
00:57:39  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> saym I
00:59:10  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> wait do we have farm supplies on the chain
00:59:21  <PeterV> idk
01:00:22  <PeterV> If I understand correcly: order for sode looks like this: pickup sode, got to the timer, drop of the soda
01:00:40  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> hmm
01:00:42  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> nah
01:00:46  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> idk
01:02:24  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Wait are we doing no orders
01:02:25  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> XD
01:02:32  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> or waypoint
01:05:38  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ..
01:05:48  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> why is everyone quiet..
01:05:56  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> 0.0
01:06:07  <PeterV> I just try to figure out the salt drop place
01:06:57  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> what you mean?
01:07:11  <PeterV> it is goes to chamical plan
01:07:16  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> yeah
01:07:59  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> oh
01:08:15  <PeterV> the plan says multi destination cargos
01:08:19  <PeterV> use pick up orders
01:09:44  <PeterV> CHamical plan has 3 station but there names ar emissing
01:09:50  <PeterV> idk which one is the salt drop
01:09:52  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ooof
01:09:53  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> oof
01:09:53  <PeterV> 1 srop 2 pick up
01:10:05  <PeterV> *1 salt drop 2 pickup
01:10:19  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> Aicd and Cholrine
01:10:23  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> maybe we should mark it
01:10:41  <PeterV> I mean 2 terminus 1 roro
01:10:48  <PeterV> so my logic here roro gona be the drop
01:11:06  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ue
01:11:10  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> i bet the same
01:14:35  <PeterV> hmm no timer to salt :S
01:15:56  <PeterV> idk I give up I gonne see tomorrow when pro's are doing some great eaxample :D
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01:35:25  <coopserver> <nicfer> petrol goes into oxygen furnace?
01:36:11  <coopserver> <nicfer> no, lime quarry?
01:37:18  <coopserver> <nicfer> lime kiln*
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01:41:03  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> idk
01:41:11  <coopserver> <Imutrainfolks> ``
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03:52:50  <Mark> hi
03:52:51  <Mark> !pw
03:52:51  <coopserver> Mark: plural
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03:54:03  <coopserver> <Mark> oh all built
03:54:04  <coopserver> <Mark> nice
04:27:51  <Mark> V453000: were missing a blast furnace :P
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04:51:43  <Mark> !pw
04:51:43  <coopserver> Mark: unhide
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07:44:27  <V453000> wtf
07:44:39  <V453000> !pw
07:44:39  <coopserver> V453000: occurs
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07:47:10  <coopserver> <V453000> oh yeah it was in my picture :) not in plan
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12:19:48  <nicfer-irc> !password
12:19:48  <coopserver> nicfer-irc: issues
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12:20:32  <V453000> heyo :)
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12:24:49  <Borg> yo
12:24:54  <coopserver> <nicfer> hi
12:25:19  <Borg> anyone bored enough to test GRF w/ me? ;)
12:25:28  <Borg> I want it in perfect shape before releasing
12:25:34  <Borg> its bug free... its rather about balance
13:04:54  <coopserver> <nicfer> can anybody help me with steel drop?
13:05:11  <coopserver> <nicfer> the pbs signal at PIPE PICKUP entry is not working
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14:09:59  <Dom_> hi
14:10:04  <coopserver> <nicfer> hey
14:13:09  <V453000> hi Dom :)
14:13:10  <V453000> nice to see you
14:13:15  <Dom_> Hey :9
14:13:18  <Dom_> :)
14:13:22  <Dom_> nice to see you too
14:13:22  <V453000> I noticed you a couple times on the welcome server recently but didn't reply fast enough
14:13:25  <V453000> how are you?
14:13:30  <Dom_> how have you been :)
14:13:57  <V453000> I'm great, busy as fuck but I am still around openttd :) I released BRIX a few months ago, now working on a new train set
14:14:05  <Dom_> very well been around a couple of years and didnt have time to play but yesterday i decidec i left a great community and i want to get back to the game :)
14:14:13  <Dom_> very nice :)
14:14:17  <Dom_> still got your snail?
14:14:39  <V453000> awesome, we have a nice game running here if you want to join ... pretty much nobody knows anything about FIRS3 so we are all kind of new :D
14:14:45  <V453000> yeah we still have one
14:15:00  <Dom_> yeah ofc :)
14:15:02  <V453000> it's probably not the original one you remember but well, it's a snail :D
14:15:03  <Dom_> only one?
14:15:22  <Dom_> i wanted to get one but they reproduce alot xD
14:15:36  <V453000> yeah, I had a snail, then I bought 2 engagement snails for wife but they both died over time and we replaced one with a new one ... that's the one we have today :D
14:15:48  <V453000> well one isn't going to reproduce by itself, they are hermaphrodites but still need two
14:16:54  <Dom_> oh ok. i read that one can reproduce all the time. yeah i want to get one for some time but my gf is afraid that we're gonna have thousands of them in a short time xFD
14:17:14  <V453000> no, one is perfectly fine
14:17:29  <V453000> actually, some are dumb enough to produce eggs even if they are alone, but the eggs won't hatch anything
14:17:42  <V453000> our current snail did that at some period
14:18:06  <Dom_> oh ok. yeah i was afraid that all the eggs are gonna hatch if you dont freeze them
14:18:39  <V453000> well that happens if you have at least 2
14:18:50  <Dom_> oh ok :) nice :D
14:19:21  <V453000> returns to openttdcoop
14:19:24  <V453000> learns about snails
14:19:25  <V453000> G_G
14:19:29  <Dom_> :D:D
14:19:39  <V453000> how do you like BRIX? :)
14:20:13  <Dom_> havent tried it out yet tbh. just played a lil bit yesterday to get the hang of things again
14:21:05  <V453000> it's on welcome server?
14:21:16  <Dom_> oh
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14:21:21  <V453000> ;D
14:21:28  <Dom_> yeah i like the sprites and colours :)
14:21:38  <nicfer-irc> !password
14:21:38  <coopserver> nicfer-irc: newest
14:21:40  <Dom_> i also tried the WET trains in single player
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14:21:48  <Dom_> they look great :)
14:22:10  <V453000> :D
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14:22:15  <V453000> you didn't see those before?
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14:22:37  <Dom_> nope havent played for 2,5 years xD
14:22:42  <Dom_> !download
14:22:42  <coopserver> Dom_: !download lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
14:22:43  <coopserver> Dom_:
14:22:58  <V453000> I think the wetrails are there for much longer but honestly my time scale is very blurred over the years
14:23:17  <Dom_> where can i get the newgrf for the public server?
14:23:18  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop wiki - (again, try !grf)
14:23:23  <V453000> !grf
14:23:23  <coopserver> V453000:
14:23:27  <Dom_> !grf
14:23:27  <coopserver> Dom_:
14:23:28  <V453000> which one is missing?
14:24:07  <Dom_> sry got everything now xD
14:24:14  <Dom_> still getting the hang of it
14:24:20  <Dom_> !password
14:24:20  <coopserver> Dom_: earned
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14:24:54  <V453000> that's fine man :)
14:24:58  <V453000> !pw
14:24:58  <coopserver> V453000: earned
14:25:00  <Dom_> the new signals are a bit confusing for me :)
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14:25:07  <Dom_> but i like the rails and bridges
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14:25:26  <coopserver> <V453000> they are different but I believe they get a lot more consistent and readable once you get used to them
14:25:36  <coopserver> <Dom> ok :)
14:25:37  <coopserver> <V453000> I've been using them for over a year or something and I really like them
14:25:51  <coopserver> <Dom> i think i just need to get used to them :)
14:26:10  <coopserver> <V453000> yarr
14:27:06  <coopserver> <Dom> brb
14:29:10  <coopserver> <V453000> TL2 slugs are still the best shit ever witnessed
14:29:36  <coopserver> <V453000> maybe the new train set should be slugs only
14:37:30  <coopserver> <V453000> oh nobody built the blast furnace yet :D
14:38:16  <coopserver> <Dom> so back
14:38:27  <coopserver> <V453000> hi :)
14:38:29  <coopserver> <Dom> yeah i like those snail trains :)
14:38:42  <coopserver> <Dom> especially the cl ;)
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14:39:32  <coopserver> <Dom> why are some snails running backwards? is that intentionaly?
14:39:38  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah
14:39:41  <coopserver> <V453000> they're confused
14:39:45  <coopserver> <V453000> I forgot the probability
14:39:50  <coopserver> <Dom> ah ok xD
14:48:56  <coopserver> <Dom> can i rebuild car parts pickup?
14:49:03  <coopserver> <Dom> it doesnt seem to work
14:49:13  <coopserver> <Dom> vehicle parts sry
14:49:16  <coopserver> <V453000> where?
14:49:24  <coopserver> <Dom> tyre plant
14:49:47  <coopserver> <Dom> visible depot and overflow not working
14:49:50  <coopserver> <V453000> the overflow is fucked?
14:49:54  <coopserver> <Dom> yep
14:50:02  <coopserver> <V453000> might be jsut a signal
14:50:14  <coopserver> <Dom> yep
14:50:34  <coopserver> <V453000> but yeah the overflow would be worth total rework
14:50:38  <coopserver> <Dom> ok
14:50:45  <coopserver> <V453000> so if you want, go ahead :)
14:50:46  <coopserver> <Dom> so i can learn again :D
14:57:45  <coopserver> <Dom> i think this should work if i'm not mistaken
14:58:11  <coopserver> <V453000> I think that should
14:58:19  <coopserver> <V453000> except the depot
14:58:28  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah now it does
14:58:37  <coopserver> <Dom> oh ok :)
14:58:41  <coopserver> <Dom> thanks :)
14:58:49  <coopserver> <V453000> entry signal = stop until exits free
14:58:51  <coopserver> <V453000> -> never depot
14:59:04  <coopserver> <Dom> oh that would be bad xD
15:01:41  <coopserver> <V453000> see, this shit is hard to forget :P
15:01:49  <coopserver> <Dom> hahaha true that :D
15:02:01  <coopserver> <Dom> i thought i forgotten the most of it :D
15:03:01  <coopserver> <V453000> we are way overproducing ES already
15:03:03  <coopserver> <V453000> ._.
15:03:12  <coopserver> <Dom> es?
15:03:16  <coopserver> <V453000> engineering suplpies
15:06:07  <coopserver> <V453000> oh that's where trains are stuck :D
15:06:08  <coopserver> <V453000> good
15:06:32  <coopserver> <V453000> ohh
15:06:38  <coopserver> <V453000> one overflow for 2 stations isn't that great idea
15:06:43  <coopserver> <nicfer> do you mean where I'm fixing?
15:06:44  <coopserver> <V453000> just wreck the area
15:06:46  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah
15:07:51  <coopserver> <V453000> someone stopped my logic trains :D
15:07:55  <coopserver> <Dom> xD
15:08:01  <coopserver> <Dom> boom
15:08:04  <coopserver> <nicfer> whoops
15:08:07  <coopserver> <V453000> big fix
15:08:08  <coopserver> <Dom> double XD
15:08:09  <coopserver> <V453000> :D
15:09:37  <coopserver> <Dom> im gonna rebuild sulphur pick
15:09:43  <coopserver> <Dom> at coke oven
15:10:01  <coopserver> <V453000> the station seems ok
15:10:03  <coopserver> <V453000> just fix overflow
15:10:07  <coopserver> <Dom> ko
15:10:09  <coopserver> <Dom> ok
15:16:49  <coopserver> <Dom> hmmm
15:17:28  <coopserver> <V453000> nicfer: the whole pf trap idea is not necessary if you just avoid using PBS, too
15:18:48  <coopserver> <nicfer> whoa, what was really close
15:21:00  <coopserver> <V453000> :)
15:23:30  <coopserver> <V453000> who built this in the first place? loeky?
15:23:45  <coopserver> <nicfer> what's what it's claimed
15:23:49  <coopserver> <V453000> ok
15:34:38  <coopserver> <V453000> you probably don't need doble bridges tehre but :)
15:42:43  <coopserver> <nicfer> there's pipes and veh bodies on the drop
15:42:48  <coopserver> <nicfer> steel drop*
15:43:07  <coopserver> <V453000> nonstop orders...
15:45:09  <Lejving> !dl win64
15:45:09  <coopserver> Lejving:
15:46:45  <happpy> hey lejving
15:46:50  <Lejving> hey happpy
15:46:53  <Lejving> wassup fam
15:47:08  <coopserver> <Dom> hey happy
15:47:12  <happpy> good thanks
15:47:22  <Lejving> !pw
15:47:22  <coopserver> Lejving: banner
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15:47:46  <coopserver> <nicfer> can we use nonstop orders?
15:48:04  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> wow v what did you do with the signals
15:48:05  <coopserver> <nicfer> also, I'm off to lunch
15:48:13  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> they look dirty!
15:48:22  <coopserver> <nicfer> can someone keep working on steel drop?
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15:48:33  <coopserver> <Dom> where is that?
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16:09:42  <coopserver> <Dom> so where is the steel whatnicfer was talking about?
16:10:48  <coopserver> <nicfer> back
16:10:52  <coopserver> <Dom> chlorine pickup
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16:10:56  <coopserver> <Dom> looks bad
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16:17:41  <Maraxus> !pw
16:17:41  <coopserver> Maraxus: across
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16:25:36  <coopserver> <Dom> gonna get something to eat
16:25:37  <coopserver> <Dom> bbl
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16:34:15  <coopserver> <V453000> it would make sense to do a bit of a rebuild on the ES station in the future :)
16:34:17  <coopserver> <V453000> making it work a bit better
17:04:35  <coopserver> <nicfer> is coal 1 overflow done correctly?
17:05:52  <coopserver> <Dom> which es station?
17:06:15  <coopserver> <nicfer> coal 1 pickup
17:07:06  <coopserver> <nicfer> northwest of BBH07
17:08:43  <coopserver> <Dom> maybe coal could use an own slh?
17:08:50  <coopserver> <Dom> or beginnings of an msh?
17:09:52  <coopserver> <nicfer> I think it just needs some clearance of bridges
17:11:05  <coopserver> <Dom> brb
17:58:38  <coopserver> <nicfer> FS PICKUP isn't receiving anything
18:00:40  <coopserver> <nicfer> there's no walker station to the slag factory
18:01:05  <coopserver> <nicfer> should I make it?
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18:27:02  <coopserver> <nicfer> whoops, I made some more pig iron trains in the wrong depot, and now blast furnace slag pickup is getting that cargo
18:27:24  <coopserver> <nicfer> should I rebuild it?
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18:33:21  <coopserver> <V453000> ES seems to be working pretty well now
18:33:30  <coopserver> <V453000> the station could be abit better with dedicated overflows but 6 overflows is a bunch
18:33:49  <coopserver> <Dom> xD
18:34:00  <coopserver> <V453000> for now it's good enough as it still manages to fill a bit faster than the timer
18:43:01  <Jam35> !dl
18:43:02  <coopserver> Jam35: !download lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
18:43:03  <coopserver> Jam35:
18:43:17  <Borg> !status
18:43:17  <coopserver> Borg: I am connected to oftc as coopserver.
18:45:26  <Jam35> !pw
18:45:26  <coopserver> Jam35: marine
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18:45:59  <coopserver> <Dom> hi
18:46:04  <coopserver> <Jam35> hi Dom
18:46:14  <coopserver> <Jam35> good to see your name in chat again :)
18:46:24  <coopserver> <Dom> thanks :)
18:46:29  <coopserver> <Dom> how are you? :)
18:46:39  <Jam35> yeah good thanks, yourself?
18:47:08  <V453000> yo 666 :)
18:47:15  <Jam35> yo yo
18:47:26  <coopserver> <Dom> very well, been around alot and couldnt find the time to play for some time :) and now i found some new motivation
18:47:31  <V453000> we have a bitching game here, come join
18:48:02  <Jam35> game looks nice yes
18:49:15  <Jam35> I will be around in a while, really wanted to say hi
18:49:34  <coopserver> <Dom> cheers nice to so you :)
18:50:26  <Jam35> you too, I consider you to be like one of my mentors :P
18:50:46  <coopserver> <Dom> hahaha nice xD how come? :)
18:50:49  <Jam35> how you were not member before me idk :)
18:51:05  <Jam35> well I learned a lot from you on stable when I came here
18:51:31  <coopserver> <Dom> yeah same me :) just looked at some old games today from the public server :) great times
18:51:59  <Jam35> most are still here lurking :P
18:52:10  <Jam35> things are quiet these days
18:52:23  <coopserver> <Dom> but still mostly the same people?
18:52:41  <Jam35> sure, a few come and go as always, some are more hardcore :P
18:53:05  <coopserver> <Dom> haha ja like you and V and both of the other guys here in the game ;)
18:53:23  <Jam35> well exactly :D
18:53:27  <coopserver> <V453000> well I don't Really play too often
18:53:31  <coopserver> <V453000> I'm just around like a lazy piece of shit
18:53:37  <coopserver> <V453000> pretending to make a plan etc
18:53:46  <Borg> ;)
18:54:56  <coopserver> <Dom> i saw that there weren't many public games in the last year or so
18:54:56  <Jam35> I go walkies, back later and get my head round this :) bfn
18:55:06  <coopserver> <Dom> cya :)
18:55:40  <coopserver> <V453000> back soon
18:55:48  <coopserver> <Dom> cya :)
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19:04:15  <coopserver> <Dom> whops
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19:07:21  <loeky> !pw
19:07:21  <coopserver> loeky: matrix
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19:07:49  <coopserver> <loeky> hey
19:08:25  <coopserver> <Dom> hi
19:09:11  <Arveen> !pw
19:09:11  <coopserver> Arveen: endian
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19:09:31  <coopserver> <Ar-to-the-veen> ermergerd
19:09:34  <coopserver> <Ar-to-the-veen> trains oh MLs
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19:12:59  <coopserver> <Dom> the jam in the south was me. its fixed now
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19:13:47  <ForeverForgotten> !password
19:13:47  <coopserver> ForeverForgotten: volume
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19:26:18  <coopserver> <V453000> 850 slugs already
19:26:35  <Arveen> almost as much as in my garden during summer
19:26:41  <coopserver> <V453000> :D
19:27:24  <coopserver> <V453000> well done on all those overflows Dom, I almost wanted to say we should make sure we are picking up from all secondaries
19:27:26  <coopserver> <V453000> :)
19:27:46  <coopserver> <V453000> Blast Furnace needs pickups btw :P
19:28:03  <coopserver> <Dom> openttd is like riding a bike ;)
19:28:26  <coopserver> <V453000> fall once, break head
19:28:43  <coopserver> <Dom> not if you're wearing a helmet ;)
19:28:53  <coopserver> <V453000> helmet doesn't help if you hit 1000 trains
19:28:54  <coopserver> <V453000> G_G
19:28:58  <coopserver> <Dom> XDD
19:30:11  <coopserver> <Dom> what pickups?
19:30:23  <coopserver> <Dom> oh
19:33:08  <coopserver> <loeky> like all trains only using 1 side of dual ml
19:33:19  <coopserver> <V453000> that's fine
19:33:22  <coopserver> <V453000> just low traffic
19:33:47  <coopserver> <Dom> for now
19:34:51  <coopserver> <loeky> would expect the pf would sent them both ways there 10 signal look ahead so it can do a beter job bye the looks of it
19:35:09  <coopserver> <V453000> btw loeky, 2 things: 1. building 1 overflow for multiple stations is generally a bad idea unless you make it real complex and real  train-proof ... 2. PBS-based overflows are unreliable as fuck, I recommend avoiding them whenever possible ... you can try if you like self-torture :)
19:35:34  <coopserver> <V453000> speaking specifically about steel finishing station :)
19:36:17  <loeky> yeah i seen the rebuild i gave it 90% option to fail
19:36:40  <coopserver> <V453000> it's fine, just saying
19:36:45  <coopserver> <V453000> chemical plant will need some care too
19:37:03  <coopserver> <loeky> oh it jamed
19:37:13  <coopserver> <V453000> yes because the combo signal is sisible for the entry
19:37:36  <coopserver> <V453000> also the path between depot and station is 1.5 tile block, train can't fit and it locks the depot
19:37:53  <coopserver> <loeky> yeah and using path just drive me nuts
19:38:26  <coopserver> <V453000> nutez
19:41:15  <coopserver> <V453000> someone who was setting up many trains is not using non-stop orders
19:41:22  <coopserver> <V453000> please tell everyone you meet
19:41:24  <coopserver> <V453000> it's important
19:41:29  <coopserver> <Dom> which station?
19:41:34  <coopserver> <V453000> like all of them
19:41:37  <coopserver> <Dom> lol
19:41:46  <coopserver> <V453000> my suspect is Mark
19:42:10  <coopserver> <V453000> because nonstop orders aren't default and he probably has a new openttd install
19:42:29  <coopserver> <Dom> oh
19:42:30  <coopserver> <Dom> ok
19:42:34  <coopserver> <Dom> what new?
19:42:38  <coopserver> <Dom> newer version?
19:42:56  <coopserver> <V453000> no just a fresh install
19:47:49  <coopserver> <V453000> heh
19:47:52  <coopserver> <Dom> ...
19:47:54  <coopserver> <Dom> xD
19:55:09  <coopserver> <V453000> well there is more order in the orders now
19:55:21  <coopserver> <V453000> but I'm sure as fuck that there is a  shitload more vehicles without nonstop orders
19:56:18  <coopserver> <V453000> btw don't build iron ore 03
19:56:24  <coopserver> <V453000> we didn't even connect 02 yet
19:56:46  <coopserver> <V453000> well it's built but no trains
19:57:02  <coopserver> <V453000> I'd say make gung ho on all current primaries first
19:58:21  <coopserver> <V453000> but yeah we can probably afford 02 for all
19:58:29  <coopserver> <V453000> ML is quite empty so far
20:00:46  <coopserver> <Dom> brb
20:04:11  <coopserver> <V453000> who connected train 897?
20:04:25  <coopserver> <V453000> Iron Ore 03?
20:07:06  <coopserver> <Dom> me?
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20:07:10  <coopserver> <Dom> why?
20:07:12  <coopserver> <nicfer> back again
20:07:16  <coopserver> <Dom> wb
20:07:23  <coopserver> <V453000> 1. the ES trains are working with waypoints at teh pickup
20:07:36  <coopserver> <Dom> oh ok i will change that
20:07:37  <coopserver> <V453000> 2. wait with that untill all current primaries are at gung-ho already
20:07:46  <coopserver> <Dom> ok havent sent them yet
20:07:47  <coopserver> <V453000> I will need to rebuild the ES pickup for that
20:08:03  <coopserver> <V453000> soon(tm)
20:09:13  <coopserver> <nicfer> FS PICKUP still isn't getting anything
20:09:44  <coopserver> <V453000> should now
20:09:52  <coopserver> <nicfer> that's what I was about to ask
20:10:02  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah now it does
20:10:40  <coopserver> <Dom> oh ok
20:10:44  <coopserver> <Dom> need any help?
20:10:53  <coopserver> <V453000> I'm making the design atm
20:11:09  <coopserver> <V453000> copypasting could come handy later :P
20:11:52  <coopserver> <V453000> SDKFDSJO
20:11:57  <coopserver> <V453000> fuck
20:12:04  <coopserver> <Dom> ?
20:12:20  <coopserver> <V453000> messing up :)
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20:14:12  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah this will work
20:14:44  <coopserver> <V453000> hopefully
20:15:25  <coopserver> <V453000> might need magic dozing though
20:15:26  <coopserver> <nicfer> should I make (a) new SLH(s) for Coal 1 and/or Limestone 1?
20:15:43  <coopserver> <nicfer> they're getting very busy
20:16:03  <coopserver> <V453000> it would look nice too without the overpass
20:16:18  <coopserver> <V453000> if you want, go ahead :)
20:17:00  <coopserver> <nicfer> is 'SLH here?' a good place for coal?
20:17:21  <coopserver> <Dom> fuck... i build the iron ore 03 at the wrong building xD
20:17:31  <coopserver> <V453000> why not, or at the place of the Overpass
20:17:42  <coopserver> <V453000> I'd do ! SLH HERE
20:17:46  <coopserver> <nicfer> I'll let Overpass for Limestone
20:17:49  <coopserver> <V453000> it's nicely far from BBHs
20:17:58  <coopserver> <V453000> I'd kill overpass
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20:19:48  <coopserver> <V453000> ok, I'm catching ES trains into depot
20:19:56  <coopserver> <V453000> don't be surprised about ES drying out soon :P
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20:20:12  <coopserver> <Jam35> hi again
20:20:15  <coopserver> <V453000> yo
20:20:18  <coopserver> <Dom> wb
20:20:39  <coopserver> <Jam35> where is FS?
20:20:50  <coopserver> <V453000> FS is loading
20:20:54  <coopserver> <V453000> at FS pickup
20:21:03  <coopserver> <Jam35> silly question
20:21:04  <coopserver> <V453000> it doesn't need anything complicated
20:21:11  <coopserver> <Jam35> oh ok
20:21:12  <coopserver> <V453000> ES is dope as fuck
20:21:16  <coopserver> <V453000> now getting better
20:21:21  <coopserver> <Jam35> yeah that is why I wondered
20:21:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> so only ES is timer?
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20:22:55  <coopserver> <Jam35> or Mark has neglected to build one at FS
20:23:07  <coopserver> <V453000> yes
20:23:10  <coopserver> <V453000> FS doesn't really need it
20:23:33  <coopserver> <V453000> I'll admit that mark is a fucking bastard any day though
20:23:40  <coopserver> <Jam35> ok, still catching up, plan still says so
20:23:42  <coopserver> <Jam35> haha
20:23:44  <Borg> lol
20:23:52  <coopserver> <V453000> yeye
20:24:04  <coopserver> <V453000> plan bad, bla bla
20:24:19  <coopserver> <Jam35> plan good, text bad is all :)
20:24:22  <coopserver> <V453000> :P
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20:28:10  <coopserver> <V453000> rekt
20:28:13  <loeky> !pw
20:28:13  <coopserver> loeky: owners
20:28:26  <coopserver> <Dom> so es has to go via wp?
20:28:31  <coopserver> <V453000> yes
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20:28:57  <coopserver> <Maraxus> how many blast furnaces do we want?
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20:29:19  <coopserver> <Dom> if i look to iron ore mine 01 es orders it has no wp in it
20:29:42  <coopserver> <V453000> why does iron ore mine 03 have trains now
20:29:47  <coopserver> <V453000> didn't we say that we wait? :D
20:29:56  <coopserver> <V453000> it's probably fine but wtf :D
20:30:02  <coopserver> <Dom> ups i thought you said ready before
20:30:20  <coopserver> <V453000> whatever we can most likely connect 2-3 types of each primary
20:30:23  <coopserver> <Dom> sry
20:30:31  <coopserver> <V453000> just rename iron ore 03 to iron ore 02
20:30:36  <coopserver> <V453000> and connect 2nd type of every primary
20:30:41  <coopserver> <V453000> leave out ES, just make stations
20:30:45  <coopserver> <V453000> and I will add ES soon
20:31:01  <coopserver> <Dom> ok done that
20:37:26  <coopserver> <Dom> why do we have 2 identical blast furnace named stations?
20:45:51  <Jam35> I thought I read something about that...
20:46:06  <Jam35> Mark said we didn't have a blast furnace
20:46:12  <Arveen> Legalise trucks in Mordor´╗┐
20:46:16  <Arveen> eh, nvm
20:46:31  <Jam35> perhaps the stations were built but not named? idk
20:46:55  <coopserver> <Dom> they are named but have the same name
20:47:29  <Jam35> no but I assume when Mark said 'we haven't got one' he built his one
20:47:49  <Jam35> but perhaps the other one already existed but was not named
20:48:05  <coopserver> <Dom> yes and the other one is down south named /someone
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20:48:52  <Jam35> according to plan, Mark's is in the right place
20:49:23  <Jam35> but that could have been added afterwards :P
20:49:23  <coopserver> <V453000> I built the blast furnace
20:49:31  <coopserver> <nicfer> SLH 19 may be done
20:49:43  <Jam35> mhm so why have we got 2 :P
20:50:08  <coopserver> <V453000> 2 blast furnaces?
20:50:09  <coopserver> <V453000> wut?
20:50:19  <coopserver> <V453000> oh lmfao
20:50:21  <coopserver> <V453000> he added it
20:50:23  <coopserver> <V453000> I didn't notice
20:50:25  <coopserver> <Dom> xD
20:50:33  <coopserver> <V453000> well, remove mine and turn it into a SLH :D
20:50:46  <coopserver> <Dom> so which will be the primary?
20:50:53  <coopserver> <V453000> just use Mark's
20:51:07  <coopserver> <nicfer> is ES pickup in remodelation
20:51:17  <coopserver> <V453000> yes
20:51:30  <coopserver> <V453000> moar bettar
20:52:23  <coopserver> <V453000> & biggar
20:53:35  <coopserver> <V453000> in fact half should be complete
20:55:00  <coopserver> <nicfer> will Coal 1 require it's own SLH?
20:55:12  <coopserver> <V453000> when it does, we can add it
20:55:24  <coopserver> <V453000> let's see
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21:03:23  <coopserver> <Dom> thats a massive station V :D
21:03:43  <coopserver> <V453000> well, 18 overflows :)
21:03:50  <coopserver> <V453000> + release logic
21:04:55  <coopserver> <Dom> what does the release logic do?
21:05:14  <coopserver> <V453000> a timer which only lets ES be released X times a month
21:05:16  <coopserver> <Dom> or better said what is the purpose
21:05:22  <coopserver> <Dom> ok
21:05:30  <coopserver> <V453000> and a check which waits for all trains for all industries to be ready before the timer triggers
21:05:38  <coopserver> <V453000> splitting ES equally to all industries
21:06:07  <coopserver> <Dom> ah ok i understand. so they only get deliverd once  all three months?
21:06:18  <coopserver> <V453000> more like 5 times every 3 months
21:06:20  <coopserver> <V453000> for gung ho
21:06:28  <coopserver> <Dom> nice
21:06:46  <coopserver> <V453000> it will likely be like 6-9 times every 3 months for some precision headroom
21:09:35  <coopserver> <V453000> should be ready now
21:10:04  <coopserver> <loeky> do the depots get even amount off trains
21:10:25  <coopserver> <V453000> no because the distance to primaries is different
21:11:53  <coopserver> <nicfer> who's repairing my overflow at Coal 1?
21:11:58  <coopserver> <Jam35> me
21:12:12  <coopserver> <nicfer> what was the problem?
21:12:22  <coopserver> <Jam35> trains forever cycling
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21:13:06  <coopserver> <V453000> sheit it seems to work
21:13:08  <coopserver> <V453000> :>
21:13:14  <coopserver> <Dom> nice :D
21:13:25  <coopserver> <Dom> i have sent the es trains from iron ore 02
21:13:31  <coopserver> <nicfer> it wasn't happening last time I checked, but seems something could break that
21:13:50  <coopserver> <V453000> which ones Dom
21:14:10  <coopserver> <V453000> they aren't gropued correctly
21:14:15  <coopserver> <V453000> and have wrong waypoint
21:14:17  <coopserver> <Dom> Engineering supplies
21:14:20  <coopserver> <V453000> and don't have nonstop orders
21:14:37  <coopserver> <Dom> why nonstop?
21:14:56  <coopserver> <V453000> to prevent them from s topping at random places when lost
21:15:32  <coopserver> <V453000> fixed
21:15:37  <coopserver> <Dom> thanks
21:15:42  <coopserver> <Dom> yeah i see what you did
21:15:45  <coopserver> <V453000> who touches ES trains will get hammered
21:15:52  <coopserver> <V453000> bastards :)
21:16:02  <coopserver> <Dom> ;)
21:16:27  <coopserver> <Dom> so nonstop orders only at es drop?
21:16:35  <coopserver> <V453000> nonstop orders everywhere
21:16:37  <coopserver> <Dom> i mean supplies drop
21:16:40  <coopserver> <V453000> that's one of our rules
21:16:49  <coopserver> <nicfer> why's there a 'swing' thing at the exit of ES pick?
21:16:51  <coopserver> <V453000> you should even set it to default in your settings
21:16:59  <coopserver> <Dom> ok will do
21:17:05  <coopserver> <V453000> only SRNW makes use of no non-stop
21:17:23  <coopserver> <V453000> nicfer: to make sure trains can't pathfind to other waypoints ... it would be unlikely but this is reliable
21:18:03  <coopserver> <V453000> and who in the shit
21:18:04  <coopserver> <nicfer> and it looks cool
21:18:11  <coopserver> <V453000> bought THE SLUG instead of RAINBOW SLUG
21:19:03  <coopserver> <V453000> ok so
21:19:11  <coopserver> <V453000> do we have 02 primaries ready? All of them?
21:19:14  <coopserver> <V453000> or only iron ore?
21:20:09  <coopserver> <nicfer> iron mines 1 and 2 seem to require their own SLH
21:20:39  <coopserver> <V453000> hehehe
21:20:44  <coopserver> <nicfer> and iron 1 trains have an invalid order
21:20:52  <coopserver> <V453000> omfg
21:21:03  <coopserver> <V453000> oh yeah
21:21:10  <coopserver> <V453000> someone deleted the station without rerouting trains
21:21:12  <coopserver> <V453000> ASPDISDGOUH
21:21:31  <coopserver> <V453000> please find the other trains which used to go to the original other blast furnace
21:21:41  <coopserver> <V453000> suspects: iron ore, coke and limestone trains
21:21:58  <coopserver> <V453000> note: shared orders aren't perfectly consistent, that won't help either
21:22:17  <coopserver> <Dom> ok
21:22:34  <coopserver> <V453000> we need the 2nd round of primaries, not just iron ore
21:22:45  <coopserver> <V453000> otherwise I will stop Iron Ore 02 ES
21:23:11  <coopserver> <Dom> what do you mean by second round primaries?
21:23:27  <coopserver> <V453000> the plan mentions we connect 1 of each primary type before connecting 2nd of each
21:23:36  <coopserver> <Dom> ok
21:23:40  <coopserver> <V453000> so now we need 2nd coal mine, 2nd farm, 2nd soda ash thing, ...
21:23:56  <coopserver> <V453000> that's how the ES thing works
21:24:03  <coopserver> <V453000> a full batch for each type
21:24:19  <coopserver> <V453000> we can build it differently but for diversity we want same amounts of each
21:24:25  <coopserver> <loeky> is your es station explaind on the wiki?
21:24:34  <coopserver> <V453000> no it's a new thing
21:24:46  <coopserver> <Dom> ok than i would delete iron ore 2
21:24:53  <coopserver> <V453000> Dom now it works
21:25:01  <coopserver> <V453000> it's actually coincidentally fine
21:25:09  <coopserver> <Dom> xD ok
21:25:11  <coopserver> <V453000> but the rest of the primaries need connecting still
21:25:27  <coopserver> <V453000> coal or quarry to be next would be best
21:25:37  <coopserver> <V453000> because then I can connect them immediately
21:25:43  <coopserver> <V453000> limestone, soda ash after
21:25:46  <coopserver> <V453000> and scrap yard last
21:26:03  <coopserver> <V453000> in other words the prerequisities are: iron ore - limestone - scrap yard
21:26:08  <coopserver> <V453000> and coal - quarry - soda ash
21:26:47  <coopserver> <Dom> gonna find a coal mine to connect
21:27:08  <coopserver> <loeky> how would the pf find a wrong waypoint n the exit of the es sation ? can figure it out
21:27:43  <coopserver> <V453000> well purely theoretically it could see the path to other waypoints through any roro station on the map
21:27:49  <coopserver> <V453000> but the penalty for it would be very high
21:28:13  <coopserver> <V453000> by locking it behind dead ends, I make sure that there is only 1 path to each waypoint and that is through the correct overflow depot
21:28:18  <coopserver> <nicfer> Coal 1 ES drop has coal
21:28:39  <coopserver> <V453000> that's why nonstop orders :)
21:28:48  <coopserver> <V453000> now we have to demolish Coal 1 ES and rebuild it
21:29:06  <coopserver> <loeky> verry nice
21:29:24  <coopserver> <V453000> solved
21:30:35  <coopserver> <V453000> trainzzz
21:31:50  <coopserver> <nicfer> I also had nonstop orders by default off, so my first trains could also be at fault
21:32:00  <coopserver> <V453000> plz fix :)
21:32:04  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah
21:32:48  <coopserver> <nicfer> now I activated it, will require closing the game so it's written in the cfg
21:33:04  <coopserver> <nicfer> I've reinstalled the game, and all config is reset
21:33:16  <coopserver> <V453000> arr
21:33:48  <coopserver> <nicfer> also, a light cut close my game last night, and the settings were also reset there
21:36:53  <coopserver> <nicfer> do we need more ES trains for Iron Ore 2?
21:37:03  <coopserver> <Maraxus> every coke,limestone, iron ore train checked for invalid orders
21:37:57  <coopserver> <V453000> thank you very much Maraxus
21:39:14  <coopserver> <V453000> if the timer train is waiting at the yellow tile, we need more trains of some kind
21:39:22  <coopserver> <V453000> if not, it's fine
21:39:50  <coopserver> <Dom> so gonna connect coal 2 soon
21:39:55  <coopserver> <V453000> good
21:40:01  <coopserver> <V453000> I'll prepare ES trains
21:42:24  <coopserver> <nicfer> isn't it too close to the drop?
21:42:49  <coopserver> <Dom> what?
21:42:51  <coopserver> <Dom> c
21:42:53  <coopserver> <Dom> coal?
21:43:07  <coopserver> <Dom> ups
21:43:09  <coopserver> <Dom> fuck
21:43:20  <coopserver> <nicfer> yeah, it's right there
21:43:31  <coopserver> <V453000> XD
21:44:03  <coopserver> <Dom> well at least i'm getting some practice on building stations xD
21:44:09  <coopserver> <V453000> :)
21:44:32  <coopserver> <nicfer> I'll try on te coal mine near slh 18
21:44:38  <coopserver> <Dom> ok
21:44:49  <coopserver> <Maraxus> do we only want gung-ho or should we have a decent transportation rate for secondaries as well?
21:44:50  <Jam35> let's just fund another industry right there and use it?
21:45:00  <coopserver> <V453000> both Maraxus
21:46:15  <coopserver> <Maraxus> in that case we might be in for some expansion or fixing work very soon
21:46:27  <coopserver> <V453000> that's fine, LL_RR isn't much anyway
21:47:02  <coopserver> <Dom> brb
21:49:31  <coopserver> <V453000> 1000 moving shits
21:51:25  <coopserver> <V453000> I was just about to complain that stuff isn't gung-ho and the mine I was observing turned gung-ho
21:51:26  <coopserver> <V453000> :)
21:51:52  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah transporting everything from 1 round of primaries at gung how will already be a lot
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21:53:01  <coopserver> <V453000> votes to stop working on 2nd level and remove iron ore 02 for now?
21:53:15  <coopserver> <V453000> and instead focus on picking up all current production including primaries and expanding?
21:53:20  <coopserver> <Maraxus> I agree
21:53:27  <coopserver> <V453000> Dom: ^
21:54:05  <coopserver> <V453000> I would actually remove Iron ore 02 completely
21:54:22  <coopserver> <V453000> it would be nicer to have the 2nd iron ore mine on a different SLH
21:54:51  <V453000> @stage Expanding, Satisfying all industries
21:54:51  *** Webster changes topic to "Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG#329 (r27951) | STAGE: Expanding, Satisfying all industries | | Help for newcomers: | Other game channels: #openttdcoop.stable , | TS3: | Enjoy your stay!"
21:54:54  <coopserver> <Dom> ok can do that
21:56:05  <coopserver> <Jam35> the production is what 500+units  per month? seems a lot to move with TL2 slugs :)
21:56:15  <coopserver> <Jam35> so yeah, agreed
21:56:18  <coopserver> <V453000> on an iron ore mine it seems to be 680
21:56:34  <coopserver> <V453000> iron ore mine 01 has a shitload of trains
21:56:40  <coopserver> <V453000> and not enough
21:56:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> some big stations coming up
21:57:02  <coopserver> <V453000> alright
21:57:07  <coopserver> <V453000> no more primaries for now :)
21:57:16  <coopserver> <Jam35> (not volunteering yet)
21:57:37  <coopserver> <Jam35> will be back tomorrow, gn
21:57:41  <coopserver> <V453000> gn
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21:57:49  <coopserver> <Maraxus> gn
21:57:56  <coopserver> <loeky> gn
21:58:05  <coopserver> <Dom> n8
21:58:39  <coopserver> <V453000> nice, manganese pickup didn't even have full load order :D
21:59:44  <Lejving> !pw
21:59:44  <coopserver> Lejving: bufpos
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21:59:55  <coopserver> <V453000> hi Lejv :)
21:59:57  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> sup fam
22:00:01  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> v
22:00:06  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> why did you dirty down the signals
22:00:07  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> :(
22:00:12  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> they looked so clean before
22:00:32  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah and now they look better
22:00:39  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> I guess lol
22:00:57  <coopserver> <V453000> blast furnace dying :D
22:01:26  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> this game clearly needs more trains
22:01:30  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> no congestions anywhere
22:01:38  <coopserver> <V453000> I just spammed a lot
22:01:47  <coopserver> <V453000> things about to go fucked soon
22:02:08  <coopserver> <V453000> who is selling ES trains ? :D
22:02:10  <coopserver> <V453000> murderer
22:02:20  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> slh 17
22:02:21  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> is gg
22:02:23  <coopserver> <Dom> me :)
22:02:26  <coopserver> <Dom> iron2
22:02:34  <coopserver> <V453000> ah
22:02:35  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> the in in slh 17
22:02:36  <coopserver> <V453000> cool
22:02:41  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> looks like deadmode
22:02:44  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> or what was it called
22:02:47  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> doom mode
22:02:50  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> dead mode
22:03:02  <coopserver> <V453000> Lejvingbot: fix it :)
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22:03:10  <coopserver> <V453000> you are officially tasked now
22:03:19  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> what was it called
22:03:22  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> when like they take every other
22:03:29  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> like if you do presignals on bridges
22:03:31  <coopserver> <V453000> problem
22:03:41  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> yeah it is indeed a problem :P
22:03:47  <coopserver> <V453000> generally evil mode, in this case it's just not split X
22:03:53  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> oh yeah
22:03:54  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> evil mode
22:03:55  <coopserver> <V453000> and 1 track throughput to the north
22:03:56  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> that was it
22:05:04  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> ah well
22:05:07  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> it solved itself now
22:05:08  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> gg
22:05:12  <coopserver> <V453000> :D
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22:05:33  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> christ was so long time ago I played
22:05:35  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> I forgot everything
22:05:57  <coopserver> <V453000> we just agreed with Dom today that this game is impossible to forget
22:05:59  <coopserver> <V453000> go argue with him
22:06:06  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> Dom
22:06:07  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> you're wrong
22:06:11  <coopserver> <V453000> gg
22:06:30  <coopserver> <Dom> havent played in some years but its coming back quite fast ;)
22:06:38  <coopserver> <Dom> like riding a bike ;)
22:06:43  <coopserver> <Dom> *with a helmet :P
22:06:56  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> I need a helmet irl
22:07:39  <coopserver> <V453000> would be nice to have more primaries around SLH 01 in the future
22:07:45  <coopserver> <V453000> that map end is quite empty
22:08:22  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> how do I get sign list again lmao
22:08:36  <coopserver> <Dom> hold the map button
22:08:37  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> found it
22:08:53  <coopserver> <V453000> he's just trying to prove his point
22:08:54  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> oh slh is top
22:09:01  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> slh 01
22:09:21  <coopserver> <Dom> ;)
22:09:39  <coopserver> <Dom> hmmm cant find train 956 es iron ore mine 02
22:10:04  <coopserver> <V453000> which train 956
22:10:08  <coopserver> <Dom> :)
22:10:36  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> I don't think I played this mode too much
22:10:38  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> what is this even
22:10:46  <coopserver> <V453000> FIRS3 is quite new
22:11:36  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> slh01
22:11:42  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> is weird
22:11:43  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> imo
22:11:53  <coopserver> <V453000> well there is barely any atraffic
22:11:55  <coopserver> <V453000> so it's fine
22:11:57  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> y
22:12:00  <coopserver> <V453000> yes it has it's issues
22:12:08  <coopserver> <V453000> fix when they show :)
22:13:18  <coopserver> <Dom> slh 12
22:14:33  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> I think I made it worse
22:14:34  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> gg
22:14:57  <coopserver> <V453000> how in the shit are we producing so many vehicles
22:15:03  <coopserver> <loeky> think the wierd ness is on the merge splits was good im
22:15:04  <coopserver> <V453000> I thought that cargo should be low throughput :D
22:16:19  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> so
22:16:20  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> what can i add
22:16:25  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> steel?
22:16:35  <coopserver> <V453000> you mean trains?
22:16:42  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> oh wait that's a hard one since I need steel+zinc+acid
22:16:45  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> err
22:16:51  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> do we need limestone?
22:17:02  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> and do we have ES?
22:17:07  <coopserver> <V453000> don't add any primaries for now
22:17:17  <coopserver> <V453000> make sure every pickup has no cargo waiting first
22:17:18  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> oh but you told me to add stuff to slh01
22:17:27  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah in the future
22:17:30  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> ok
22:18:13  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> when I played this game daily
22:18:18  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> you never understood how complicated it was I think
22:18:32  <coopserver> <V453000> wot
22:18:47  <coopserver> <Lejvingbot> I'm fucking lost atm
22:19:46  <coopserver> <loeky> bbh 01 no longer has sg but also no more prio wahts wores?
22:20:04  <coopserver> <V453000> signal gap is a problem
22:20:10  <coopserver> <V453000> prio depends on the merger
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22:20:40  <coopserver> <V453000> we can keep prios very short with TL2 slugs
22:21:26  <coopserver> <loeky> sure and there fast
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22:22:58  <Lejving> I'm noob gg
22:23:29  <petvas> I tried to figure out salt, yesterday, there was no timer for that..
22:23:45  <petvas> it can go to immediately the drop station?
22:23:47  <coopserver> <V453000> Salt is always in Soda Ash mine, r ight?
22:23:51  <coopserver> <nicfer> Coal 2is (kinda) done
22:24:07  <coopserver> <V453000> nicfer please no more primaries for now
22:24:12  <coopserver> <V453000> keep teh station but don't connect things to it
22:24:14  <coopserver> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost)
22:24:19  <petvas> idk I am at work I don't see it right now
22:24:24  <Dom_> lol game crash
22:24:39  <coopserver> <nicfer> didn't we needed a second coal pickup?
22:24:45  <coopserver> <V453000> n
22:24:50  <coopserver> <V453000> we canceled it
22:24:54  <Dom_> !password
22:24:55  <coopserver> Dom_: comply
22:24:59  <coopserver> <V453000> we need to make the network function with what we have now first
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22:25:16  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah petvas, soda ash mine always gives salt and soda
22:25:21  <coopserver> <V453000> the ES are only per industry not per cargo
22:25:26  <coopserver> <loeky> someone building slh12?
22:25:35  <coopserver> <nicfer> beware that ES Pickup has vehicles on it
22:25:45  <coopserver> <V453000> ._.
22:25:50  <coopserver> <V453000> FUCKING nonstop orders :(
22:26:14  <coopserver> <nicfer> train 13 has no non-stop
22:26:26  <coopserver> <V453000> all orders must be non-stop
22:26:30  <coopserver> <nicfer> added
22:27:01  <petvas> so just to make clear I need to set: Pickup Salt, go through soda clock, go to salt drop? (sorry it is a little bit confusing for me, I just give up yesterday and didn't do anything.... :D)
22:27:02  <coopserver> <V453000> we would REALLY need someone to go through all orders and see if they are shared in 1 shared order link per industry/route, and if all orders are non-stop
22:27:06  <coopserver> <nicfer> train 600 also lacks it
22:27:11  <coopserver> <V453000> nono petvas
22:27:15  <coopserver> <V453000> pickup salt, go to salt drop
22:27:16  <coopserver> <nicfer> and now it has them
22:27:35  <petvas> okey, thank you
22:27:42  <coopserver> <V453000> ES trains get 1. go through soda ash waypoint, 2. es pickup, 3. soda ash mine ES drop
22:27:52  <petvas> I hope there will be some train already when I go to home to play, so I can use them as a reference :)
22:27:57  <coopserver> <V453000> preferably don't touch ES trains unles you feel very brave
22:28:06  <coopserver> <V453000> there are 1200 trains right now
22:28:14  <petvas> lol cool
22:28:16  <coopserver> <V453000> don't add more primaries for now :)
22:28:41  <petvas> I am happy to optimize my hubs too...
22:28:52  <V453000> @stage Expanding, Satisfying all productions. DO NOT ADD NEW PRIMARIES YET!
22:28:52  *** Webster changes topic to "Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG#329 (r27951) | STAGE: Expanding, Satisfying all productions. DO NOT ADD NEW PRIMARIES YET! | | Help for newcomers: | Other game channels: #openttdcoop.stable , | TS3: | Enjoy your stay!"
22:28:58  <coopserver> <nicfer> also, there's two sets of vehicle trains that don't share orders
22:29:08  <coopserver> <V453000> it probably won't be about optimizing, rather about simply building MOAR tracks
22:29:19  <coopserver> <V453000> there's a lot of those nicfer
22:29:31  <coopserver> <V453000> it would be great to make the missing links
22:31:04  <coopserver> <nicfer> more all-stop trains fixed
22:31:57  <coopserver> <V453000> :)
22:32:32  <coopserver> <nicfer> and more
22:34:52  <coopserver> <V453000> it's quite interesting that the vehicle trains were even trying to path through the ES pickup
22:34:57  <coopserver> <V453000> because  the ES pickup is a dead end
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22:37:45  <coopserver> <loeky> should we stop all trains jamed now case rebuild
22:38:07  <coopserver> <V453000> should try to keep traffic moving
22:38:19  <coopserver> <Dom> yeah was rebuildng something
22:38:27  <coopserver> <Dom> was about to  start them again
22:38:29  <coopserver> <Dom> sry
22:38:36  <coopserver> <V453000> if it's ultra absolutely mega necessary, stop trains
22:38:47  <coopserver> <Dom> ok
22:38:53  <coopserver> <V453000> but from past experience I can say that it's not that hard to avoid stopping traffic
22:41:19  <coopserver> *** Dom has left the game (Leaving)
22:41:36  <Dom_> !password
22:41:36  <coopserver> Dom_: blades
22:41:51  <Dom_> !password
22:41:51  <coopserver> Dom_: screws
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22:42:10  <coopserver> <V453000> it's not that easy to leave eh :P
22:42:19  <coopserver> <Dom> ;)
22:42:29  <coopserver> <Dom> just wanted to save the settings if i crash again xD
22:42:44  <coopserver> <V453000> good idea
22:46:59  <coopserver> <loeky> glasswork ovf locked
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22:50:12  <coopserver> <loeky> slh 02 is getting full
22:50:26  <coopserver> <Maraxus> every order (didn't check es-trains) should be non-stop now if people used shared orders properly
22:50:45  <coopserver> <V453000> that's a big if Maraxus :D
22:50:46  <coopserver> <V453000> let's see
22:52:26  <coopserver> <V453000> SLH 02 a bit better but it won't last for too long when we expand other things
22:53:41  <coopserver> <loeky> if short on space there is an other island near it
22:53:52  <coopserver> <V453000> hehe
22:53:53  <coopserver> <V453000> yes
22:54:17  <coopserver> <loeky> seems that bbh01 is on limmit as well
22:54:27  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah with BBH 02
22:54:58  <coopserver> <Maraxus> I'm off - gn
22:55:03  <coopserver> <loeky> gn
22:55:05  <coopserver> <Dom> n8
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22:55:09  <coopserver> <V453000> bai
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22:58:07  <coopserver> <nicfer> 1200 trains mark!
22:58:18  <coopserver> <loeky> cant see any flow problems we dit good also good balance between bbhs good plan
22:58:50  <coopserver> <V453000> moar waiting cargo eliminating :)
22:59:06  <coopserver> <loeky> damm spoe to soon see slh 01 at town
22:59:11  <coopserver> <V453000> XD
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23:00:21  <coopserver> <V453000> 2 platforms is really on the edge with gung ho primaries
23:00:30  <coopserver> <V453000> maybe even insufficient
23:00:34  <coopserver> <V453000> Coal 01 isn't really keeping up
23:00:45  <coopserver> <V453000> well nvm
23:00:49  <coopserver> <V453000> sometimes there just are no trains
23:02:34  <coopserver> <loeky> slh 17 somtimes to slow
23:03:05  <coopserver> <V453000> PBS crossings :)
23:03:40  <coopserver> <nicfer> Coal 01 has a lot of trains on depot
23:03:41  <coopserver> <loeky> yeah and short split so you get jam fast
23:03:48  <coopserver> <V453000> I just made them nicfer
23:04:27  <coopserver> <loeky> well should be sleeping so see you
23:04:33  <coopserver> <Dom> n8
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23:05:24  <coopserver> <nicfer> anyways, if it's production increases, it will require either more platforms or a separate exit track
23:05:37  <coopserver> <V453000> it won't increase anymore
23:05:56  <coopserver> <V453000> I think it will work, barely but will
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23:07:42  <coopserver> <Dom> game looks great :)
23:07:46  <coopserver> <Dom> good to be back :)
23:07:47  <coopserver> <V453000> does
23:07:55  <coopserver> <V453000> iz
23:08:07  <coopserver> <Dom> anyway im gonna go get some sleep
23:08:15  <coopserver> <Dom> gn8
23:08:18  <coopserver> <V453000> gn
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23:10:39  <coopserver> <V453000> ok SLH 17 faster now
23:10:41  <coopserver> <V453000> gnight
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23:53:37  <ForeverForgotten> !password
23:53:37  <coopserver> ForeverForgotten: counts
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