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Command sent from Discord by slace: 08:39:15 <coopdiscord> !pw 08:39:15 <coopserver> coopdiscord: toggle 08:39:50 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 08:40:00 <coopserver> *** slace has joined 08:40:01 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:40:13 <coopserver> <Nige> Hello i am new here 08:45:48 <coopserver> *** slace has left the game (Leaving) 08:56:31 <coopdiscord> <Arcene: Time to YEET!> Helloooo 08:56:42 <coopdiscord> Command sent from Discord by Arcene: Time to YEET!: 08:56:42 <coopdiscord> !players 08:56:42 <coopserver> coopdiscord: There are currently 0 players and 1 spectators, making a total of 1 clients connected 09:21:26 <coopserver> *** Nige has left the game (Leaving) 09:21:58 *** Nige has quit IRC 09:23:20 *** Arveen has joined #openttdcoop 10:09:14 *** luaduck has quit IRC 10:09:17 *** luaduck has joined #openttdcoop 12:20:29 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 12:21:04 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 12:21:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 13:16:57 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 13:17:02 <dwarf> !pw 13:17:02 <coopserver> dwarf: frosch 13:17:14 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 13:17:16 <coopserver> *** dwarf has joined 13:17:17 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:17:18 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:20:30 *** StarLite has joined #openttdcoop 13:20:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o StarLite 13:44:24 <coopserver> *** dwarf has left the game (Leaving) 13:44:25 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 14:11:57 *** dwarf has quit IRC 14:45:53 *** Lejving has quit IRC 14:47:38 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 14:47:40 <dwarf> !pw 14:47:40 <coopserver> dwarf: fences 14:47:52 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 14:47:54 <coopserver> *** dwarf has joined 14:47:55 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:47:56 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 14:52:11 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 14:52:16 <coopserver> *** koukol has joined 14:52:17 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 15:08:21 <coopserver> *** koukol has left the game (Leaving) 15:22:39 <coopdiscord> Command sent from Discord by HumbL: 15:22:40 <coopdiscord> !pw 15:22:40 <coopserver> coopdiscord: buying 15:22:53 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 15:23:03 <coopserver> *** HumbL has joined 15:23:04 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 15:23:08 <coopserver> <dwarf> hi humbl 15:23:33 <coopserver> *** HumbL has left the game (general timeout) 15:23:52 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 15:24:01 <coopserver> *** HumbL has joined 15:24:02 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 15:24:36 <coopserver> *** HumbL has left the game (general timeout) 15:24:37 <coopdiscord> <planetmaker> jo hi 🙂 15:26:09 <coopdiscord> <HumbL> hey 🙂 15:26:26 <Arveen> 🍔🍔🍔 15:27:23 <coopdiscord> Command sent from Discord by HumbL: 15:27:23 <coopdiscord> !pw 15:27:23 <coopserver> coopdiscord: ailist 15:27:37 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 15:27:43 <coopserver> *** HumbL has joined 15:27:44 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 15:28:18 <coopserver> *** HumbL has left the game (general timeout) 15:28:30 <coopserver> <dwarf> slow net I guess 15:28:48 <coopserver> <dwarf> it's lagging a lot for me too, but it's still playable 15:28:58 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 15:29:05 <coopserver> *** HumbL has joined 15:29:06 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 15:29:32 <coopserver> *** HumbL has left the game (general timeout) 15:30:12 <coopdiscord> <HumbL> I can't even connect properly :/ 15:31:10 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 15:31:16 <coopserver> *** HumbL has joined 15:31:17 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 15:31:49 <coopserver> *** HumbL has left the game (general timeout) 15:40:09 <coopdiscord> <planetmaker> maybe... the map is too large / computationally heavy 15:40:38 <coopserver> <dwarf> 1300 trains is getting close to the limit my connection can usually handle 15:40:52 <coopserver> <dwarf> they are all in a single system 15:42:55 <coopdiscord> Command sent from Discord by HumbL: 15:42:56 <coopdiscord> !pw 15:42:56 <coopserver> coopdiscord: unhide 15:43:09 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 15:43:15 <coopserver> *** HumbL has joined 15:43:16 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 15:43:22 <coopserver> *** dwarf has left the game (Leaving) 15:43:23 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:43:58 <coopdiscord> <HumbL> well now it worked. but did i kick him? :x 15:45:34 <dwarf> no, I'm taking a break 15:45:49 <dwarf> usually it works better with fewer clients 15:45:54 <coopserver> <HumbL> alright than 15:47:44 <dwarf> first time here HumbL? 15:48:28 <coopserver> <HumbL> yeah. just wanted to take i quick peak. not really confident enough to contribute smth 15:49:04 <dwarf> if you want to just look around and see how things work, may be better to save the game and run it locally 15:49:12 <dwarf> lot less lag ;) 15:50:19 <coopserver> <HumbL> well currently im not lagging on pause. cant really imagine that its my connection/pc... 15:51:06 <dwarf> it's not low bandwidth but long latency time that makes you disconnect, AFAIK 15:51:27 <coopserver> <HumbL> can i somehow ping the server? 15:52:19 <dwarf> hmm, dunno 15:52:43 <dwarf> planetmaker? 15:53:53 <coopdiscord> <HumbL> well 22ms to openttdcoop.org 16:03:35 <dwarf> it's hard to see how stuff works with the game paused, just saying you should look at it when it's working 16:04:14 <dwarf> I'm about to come back, so maybe you should make a save :P 16:05:05 <coopserver> <HumbL> let's just hope for the best :D 16:05:35 <dwarf> !pw 16:05:35 <coopserver> dwarf: ground 16:05:49 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 16:05:51 <coopserver> *** dwarf has joined 16:05:52 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:05:53 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:06:25 <coopserver> *** HumbL has left the game (general timeout) 16:06:37 <coopserver> <dwarf> right 16:06:48 <coopserver> <dwarf> will only get worse if I start building 16:07:27 <coopdiscord> <HumbL> yeah ... i will try to figure out the problem 16:13:26 <coopdiscord> <KenjiE20> just remember ttd isn't (can't be) multi threaded, so your CPU's max freq plays a fairly key role 16:13:56 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 16:14:38 <coopdiscord> <HumbL> shouldnt 3.21GHz be enough? 🤔 16:15:40 <coopdiscord> <KenjiE20> at the point this game is apparently at, seems not 😛 16:16:17 <coopserver> <dwarf> It runs very smoothly locally, but lags on network, so it must be a network limitation 16:16:41 <coopdiscord> <HumbL> what kind of specs do you guys have than? 😮 16:17:45 <coopdiscord> <KenjiE20> there's not a whole lot of network traffic that goes on if nothing is being changed though, you'd be hard pushed to make ttd cap out any kind of network 16:18:36 <coopserver> <dwarf> I think latency is the issue, the game checks somehow every tick (1/60 of a second) that the local and remote simulations are in sync 16:20:20 <coopdiscord> Command sent from Discord by HumbL: 16:20:21 <coopdiscord> !pw 16:20:21 <coopserver> coopdiscord: sizing 16:20:32 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 16:20:37 <coopserver> *** HumbL has joined 16:20:38 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 16:21:11 <coopserver> *** HumbL has left the game (general timeout) 16:22:10 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 16:22:16 <coopserver> *** HumbL has joined 16:22:17 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 16:22:51 <coopserver> *** HumbL has left the game (general timeout) 16:23:30 <coopdiscord> <HumbL> is there any setting i can change to optimize the perforamnce? 16:23:33 <coopdiscord> <KenjiE20> it checks with a hash iirc, and that's the thing, it can run visually smooth locally, but actually be running slower by tiny amounts that mean the hash is off versus the network server instance 16:25:46 <coopdiscord> <KenjiE20> not much really, you could up the process priority, but that won't last, the more gets added, I swear we used to tweak some stuff to manage it server side, but that may have been way back when this ran nightlies and we self-compiled 16:29:45 <coopdiscord> Command sent from Discord by HumbL: 16:29:46 <coopdiscord> !pw 16:29:46 <coopserver> coopdiscord: clears 16:30:00 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 16:30:06 <coopserver> *** HumbL has joined 16:30:07 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 16:30:42 <coopserver> *** HumbL has left the game (general timeout) 16:31:00 <coopdiscord> <KenjiE20> hmm, yup, looks like we still run double the allowance for downloads (the main initial problem to joining) and an extra lag time allowance 16:34:30 <coopdiscord> <HumbL> still wondering what kind of pc's you guys must have to run this 16:35:15 <coopserver> <dwarf> I have a 4 years old macbook pro 16:37:46 <coopdiscord> Command sent from Discord by HumbL: 16:37:46 <coopdiscord> !pw 16:37:46 <coopserver> coopdiscord: orders 16:37:58 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 16:38:05 <coopserver> *** HumbL has joined 16:38:06 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 16:38:34 <coopserver> *** HumbL has left the game (general timeout) 17:02:48 <coopdiscord> <HumbL> i downloaded psg332 out of curiosity and it runs perfectly smooth.... strange 17:08:09 *** Compu has joined #openttdcoop 17:08:19 *** Compu has quit IRC 17:12:49 *** Progman has quit IRC 17:53:29 *** happpy has joined #openttdcoop 17:53:38 *** happpy has left #openttdcoop 17:53:56 *** happpy has joined #openttdcoop 17:53:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o happpy 18:04:15 <coopdiscord> Command sent from Discord by HumbL: 18:04:16 <coopdiscord> !pw 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<coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 18:22:06 <coopserver> *** Player has joined 18:22:07 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:23:09 <coopserver> *** Player has joined company #1 18:23:10 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:23:41 <coopserver> *** Player has left the game (general timeout) 18:23:42 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:54:59 *** happpy has joined #openttdcoop 18:55:34 *** happpy has left #openttdcoop 18:55:53 *** happpy has joined #openttdcoop 18:55:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o happpy 18:57:03 <happpy> !players 18:57:04 <coopserver> happpy: The server is empty, no one is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation 19:04:35 <dwarf> hi happy 19:04:52 <happpy> hi 19:05:01 <happpy> how things going 19:05:09 <happpy> how ar you 19:06:16 <dwarf> alright 19:06:27 <dwarf> I upgraded some lines 19:06:35 <dwarf> now traffic flows ok 19:08:16 <happpy> nice 19:08:51 <happpy> i just found a way to play command and conquer red alert on windows 10 19:13:12 <dwarf> !pw 19:13:12 <coopserver> dwarf: behind 19:13:37 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 19:13:40 <coopserver> *** dwarf has joined 19:13:41 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:13:42 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:24:52 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 20:43:39 <coopserver> *** dwarf has left the game (Leaving) 20:43:40 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:25:54 <coopdiscord> Command sent from Discord by Mike: 21:25:54 <coopdiscord> !pw 21:25:54 <coopserver> coopdiscord: others 21:25:57 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 21:26:00 <coopserver> *** Mike has joined 21:26:01 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:26:12 <happpy> gn 21:26:20 <coopserver> <Mike> good night 21:28:58 <coopserver> *** Mike has joined company #1 21:28:59 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:30:09 <coopserver> *** Mike has left the game (Leaving) 21:30:10 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:48:53 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:58:14 *** StarLite has quit IRC 22:01:34 *** happpy has quit IRC 22:57:42 *** dwarf has quit IRC