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00:02:03 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 00:06:59 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop.dev 00:06:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20|LT 00:08:30 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:37:01 *** Progman has quit IRC 02:33:32 *** Fuco has quit IRC 02:47:40 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 03:18:45 *** PeterT has quit IRC 07:46:02 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop.dev 07:46:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 09:39:36 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop.dev 10:36:12 *** PierreW has quit IRC 10:36:58 *** PierreW has joined #openttdcoop.dev 12:02:26 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.dev 12:02:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 13:08:18 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop.dev 14:59:01 *** Luukland has joined #openttdcoop.dev 15:11:08 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.dev 15:17:52 <Luukland> PeterT, just the one I needed ;) 15:18:00 <PeterT> what? 15:18:09 <Luukland> I see you are fairly active in the scenario area of tt-forums 15:18:25 <Luukland> I am wondering, which scenario(s) catched your eye? 15:18:51 <PeterT> Hungary Scenario 15:19:13 <PeterT> The past tense of catch is: caught 15:19:32 <Luukland> aye :) Will remember that 15:19:33 <PeterT> Luukland? 15:19:37 <PeterT> why do you ask? 15:19:52 <Luukland> Well, I am looking for some new scenarios to run on the servers 15:20:11 <PeterT> Oh 15:20:27 <PeterT> Hungary 15:20:35 <PeterT> I'll give you a link in a sec 15:20:37 <Luukland> I will look at it, have a link for me? 15:20:38 <Luukland> Ok :P 15:21:19 <PeterT> It *was* a TTDPatch scenario, but I ported it over 15:21:27 <Luukland> it is yours (A) 15:22:02 <PeterT> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=783387#p783387 15:22:03 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - TTD PATCH hungary scenario (100% complete) (at www.tt-forums.net) 15:22:08 <PeterT> Screenshots are further up 15:23:09 <Luukland> Let me see :) 15:23:49 <Luukland> Hmmmmm, it has a very very nice layout, but the map is a bit small :P 15:24:32 <PeterT> It is, I admit it 15:26:18 <Luukland> Maybe I should make my own scenario, just like the christmas special 15:27:46 <planetmaker> pre-made scenarios are often not usable due to the choice of grfs which very easily gets antique 15:28:02 <Luukland> Yeah, I see now... 15:28:31 <Luukland> And thx to the dev's coding the settings of the ancient scenarios solid, they become useless 15:28:53 <Luukland> luckely they fixed it in 1.0.0, so that is one step ahead 15:29:00 <planetmaker> ...? 15:29:14 <PeterT> Luukland: Did you add a COPYING file to your zip file on your site? 15:29:16 <Luukland> try changing scenario max loan in 0.7.5 15:29:35 <Luukland> Petert, I read license, I must make visitors aware of this license, which I do 15:29:43 <Luukland> I dont have to add it to the download itselve :) 15:29:50 <planetmaker> Luukland, yes you do 15:29:59 <Luukland> Nope ;) 15:30:04 <PeterT> Yeah, I think planetmaker is right 15:30:04 <planetmaker> GPL requires it 15:30:35 <Luukland> Gimme the line which says so :) 15:30:56 <planetmaker> §1 of the license 15:31:01 <planetmaker> 1. You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty; keep intact all the notices that refer to this License and to the absence of any warranty; and give any other recipients of the Program a copy of this License along with the Program. 15:31:11 <planetmaker> the license is part of the programme(s) 15:32:10 <Luukland> I never got any license out of the compiling process? 15:32:24 <planetmaker> the repo has the license in the main dir 15:32:39 <planetmaker> the binary is in a sub dir. No arguing about that 15:32:50 <PeterT> Luukland: Try "make bundle" 15:33:08 <planetmaker> so you're always required to ship the license with the binary. 15:33:53 <PeterT> or? 15:33:59 <PeterT> someone can sue you? 15:34:12 <Luukland> That is your opinion, I interpetate it as; on each copy an appropriate copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty 15:34:20 <Luukland> So I make a notice to both on the download page 15:34:32 <planetmaker> a notice on the download page is NOT sufficient 15:34:45 <Luukland> Says who? 15:34:48 <Luukland> The license? 15:34:51 <planetmaker> courts. 15:34:57 <Luukland> Never been to one 15:35:02 <planetmaker> as you DISTRIBUTE it without license 15:35:29 <Luukland> I only distribute a binary, not a working copy 15:35:42 <Luukland> like you sayd; binary is sub dir 15:35:55 <planetmaker> yes? and? 15:36:07 <Luukland> well, when I update a sub dir, that never had a license in it 15:36:13 <Luukland> you may be happy I even refer to it 15:36:20 <planetmaker> you build from a repo. You got a license. 15:36:41 <planetmaker> If you distribute something, part of that repo, you're required to distribute the license and an offer how to obtain the source 15:36:52 <planetmaker> No, I may not be happy. Not at all. 15:37:03 <planetmaker> can you give me the link? 15:37:07 <Luukland> for what? 15:37:15 <planetmaker> for your download :-) 15:37:17 <PeterT> the download 15:37:30 <Luukland> can't give you the download direct link, can give you the download page 15:37:37 <planetmaker> well, please do so 15:37:42 <Luukland> http://luukland.goulp.net/downloads 15:37:45 <Luukland> Here you go 15:37:48 <Webster> Title: Downloads | Goulp Pro Dev Team (at luukland.goulp.net) 15:38:39 <planetmaker> now I'll check and if I'm satisfied, I'll notify everyone in #openttd 15:38:45 <planetmaker> *dissatisfied 15:38:54 <Luukland> Sure, please do so ;) 15:39:22 <PeterT> planetmaker: the linux zip is made by me, so it includes the liscense 15:39:28 <PeterT> *licsense 15:39:34 <Luukland> PeterT, I deleted some useless files out of it :P 15:39:39 <PeterT> why????? 15:39:40 <Luukland> to save bandwith 15:39:42 <Luukland> and costs :) 15:39:43 <planetmaker> omfg! It's not even the base grf 15:39:45 <PeterT> *facepalms* 15:39:53 <planetmaker> Luukland, always use make bundle to distribute 15:40:05 <Luukland> PeterT never told me to use the make bundle :p 15:40:07 <PeterT> Luukland: You made my linux binary into a .rar!!!!????? 15:40:09 <Luukland> It aint in the wiki :P 15:40:20 <Luukland> Yeah, PeterT, winrar was not nice 15:40:31 <planetmaker> that's what helps you. The license tells you what to do (you obviously fail to read) 15:40:33 <PeterT> .rar is completely f'd on linux! 15:40:44 <planetmaker> And you fail to distribute a working copy. You miss other required files, too 15:40:57 <PeterT> what other files, planetmaker? 15:40:59 <Luukland> Yeap, which I did intentionally 15:41:22 <Luukland> again to save bandwith 15:41:34 <PeterT> You put my tar.bz2 file inside a .rar? 15:41:55 <Luukland> Yes, I think so, unless there is a .zip in the .rar containing the tar.bz2 15:43:17 <Luukland> I have to let Fugas make some new tar.bz2, since this one is one big mess :P 15:43:57 <Luukland> Well planetmaker? Dissatisfied? 15:44:05 <PeterT> Go to #openttd, you'll see 15:44:16 <Luukland> Naah, I dont like #openttd 15:44:26 <PeterT> well 15:44:46 <planetmaker> Luukland, yes, I am 15:45:04 <planetmaker> Obviously not only I told you to obey the license 15:45:51 <Luukland> Well in that case I must alter the download page ;) 15:46:12 <Luukland> And who told also btw? 15:46:22 <Luukland> Probably Rubidium who is in my ignore list xD 15:46:40 <planetmaker> as you are on his. 15:47:00 <planetmaker> no, you MUST change your download files 15:47:21 <PeterT> Luukland: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/last?count=50 15:48:08 <Luukland> Aye aye, I will change the download files asap 15:48:15 <Luukland> Tell that to Mr. Rubidium :) 15:48:39 <PeterT> Tell him yourself 15:48:42 <planetmaker> ^ 15:49:20 <Luukland> Like planetmaker said, I ignore him, and he ignores me 15:49:24 <planetmaker> and using the bundles is not that hard. And the additional bandwidth needed won't kill you 15:54:50 <Luukland> I will remember to use the make bundle command next time ;) 15:55:09 <PeterT> Luukland: Well, I did it for you, but you took the files out :p 15:55:17 <Luukland> uhu uhu 15:56:50 <planetmaker> well. I boookmarked the page and I'll make sure to check back. 15:57:16 <planetmaker> my calender will remind me ;-) 15:57:53 <planetmaker> btw... the patch cannot be found. So source is also not available. 15:58:16 <Luukland> I just deleted it all 15:58:17 <Luukland> :) 15:58:35 <Luukland> You can ask PeterT for a second link to the patch though 15:58:37 <PeterT> Do you want a new linux binary, luukland? 15:58:49 <PeterT> What do you mean, Luukland? 15:58:54 <PeterT> I don't have the patch 15:59:02 <Luukland> Well, you probably make copies of the patch :P 15:59:10 <PeterT> Do I? 15:59:14 <planetmaker> hu? How could you have made the binary then, PeterT ? 15:59:28 <PeterT> I mean, I don't have it here 15:59:44 <PeterT> I've deleted the patch 15:59:50 <PeterT> and I'm not even at the same computer :-P 16:08:22 <Luukland> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/Competition%20Patch%20V1.diff 16:08:23 <Luukland> :) 16:08:36 <Luukland> Might you want to download the patch planetmaker :) 16:09:21 <PeterT> You only added those STRs to english.txt and english_US.txt? 16:09:29 <PeterT> what if someone only speaks Hungarian? 16:09:33 <PeterT> or German? 16:09:45 <Luukland> Well, my intention was to only release eng.lang 16:09:53 <Luukland> here again to save bandwith 16:11:20 <Luukland> it was all an attempt to make OpenTTD better ;-) 16:11:23 <planetmaker> Adding translations to all languages is virtually impossible for patches. So... that's no harm 16:14:09 <Luukland> Should I maybe post it on the forums? So someone else can finish it? 16:14:18 <PeterT> No 16:14:28 <Luukland> I dont have the time, nor the motivation for it :( 16:14:33 <PeterT> if it gets added to trunk (unlikely), the translators will translate it 16:14:42 <Luukland> I am talking about the patch 16:15:11 <PeterT> So am i 16:15:38 <Luukland> The purpose was to get it working onto trunk, which it is far from... 16:15:52 <Luukland> Anyhow, the download has been deleted, I will make a proper bundle later 16:16:01 <PeterT> Ok 16:21:52 <planetmaker> Luukland, independent from this license thing, a competition upgrade for OpenTTD would certainly be pretty cool :-) 16:22:03 <planetmaker> Don't let it go and update it for trunk :-) 16:24:02 <Luukland> I can't, like I told PeterT once, I am not a coder 16:24:18 <PeterT> who made the patch? 16:24:20 <planetmaker> but... who wrote it? 16:24:21 <Luukland> there are too many issues to get it working, some experienced coder needs to fix/solve 16:24:36 <PeterT> fugas, right? 16:24:40 <Luukland> No no 16:24:59 <planetmaker> and it doesn't look like it modifies many places, thus *should* be somewhat not overly difficult. 16:25:17 <Luukland> It was Ruud who made it 16:25:24 <planetmaker> The UI things probably need manual insertion (not sure though), but the production code didn't change really much afaik 16:25:56 <Luukland> Yeap 16:26:20 <Luukland> Its only the cargo distribution that got better 16:26:37 <Luukland> Which has notting to do with CARGODIST 16:26:46 <planetmaker> yeah 16:26:54 <Luukland> (Never knew why they didn't rename it to CARGODEST :P) 16:54:47 <Luukland> Time to get some food stached, AFKZ 16:54:55 *** Luukland has quit IRC 20:10:55 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 20:11:03 *** ^ekipS^ has joined #openttdcoop.dev 20:11:17 *** ^ekipS^ is now known as ^Spike^ 20:55:36 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:16:11 *** TD has joined #openttdcoop.dev 21:28:56 *** TD has quit IRC 22:23:34 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop.dev 22:27:11 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 22:27:38 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop.dev 22:30:29 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 22:51:40 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop.dev 23:57:10 *** Yexo has quit IRC