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10:56:34  <fonsinchen> I'd like to set up a new cargodist test game either tonight or tomorrow morning
10:58:22  <KenjiE20> fine by me
10:58:48  <KenjiE20> Have TB shove the binaries to us again, and someone should be able to fire it up
10:59:01  <KenjiE20> (I think that's what happened last time)
10:59:26  <fonsinchen> I can actually set it up myself.
10:59:37  <KenjiE20> cool, even better :P
10:59:39  <fonsinchen> And I'm discussing with TB right now.
10:59:50  <planetmaker> fine also with me
10:59:55  <KenjiE20> @stage New CD game soon
10:59:55  *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop patch test channel - Cargo Distribution++ | | STAGE: New CD game soon | Tag/Revision: r19601M | Binaries:"
11:00:08  <planetmaker> actually more than fine :-) It's good news :-)
11:03:08  <fonsinchen> I'd like to make that a "semi-coop" game.
11:03:27  <fonsinchen> That means there'll be one company anyone can join, but you can create up to three others
11:03:50  <fonsinchen> I'd like to use your password-irc-trick for the public company.
11:03:53  <planetmaker> sure, why not
11:03:54  <fonsinchen> Is that possible?
11:04:03  <fonsinchen> And how do I do that?
11:04:04  <planetmaker> hm, I don't know
11:04:20  <planetmaker> "sure, why no coopetition" was meant ;-)
11:04:36  <planetmaker> I think it's a server password, not a company password
11:04:40  <KenjiE20> can't use AP to control company passwords
11:05:16  <planetmaker> fonsinchen, a good trick is to give 'coop' as password to the public company
11:05:23  <planetmaker> most coopers will try / know that
11:05:46  <V453000> ooh, massive madness upcoming?
11:06:08  <planetmaker> not more than before ;-)
11:06:11  <fonsinchen> yeah, you can also preview the map: "wasteland" on bananas
11:06:17  <planetmaker> ah :-)
11:06:32  <fonsinchen> and you can suggest settings you'd like to have.
11:07:02  <V453000> omg why that map
11:07:03  <V453000> :(
11:07:07  <planetmaker> <-- that link is not valid
11:07:29  <fonsinchen> I know
11:07:36  <fonsinchen> but it doesn't matter, does it?
11:07:48  <planetmaker> it doesn't. But it's the link given on bananas
11:08:03  <fonsinchen> I intend to put some content there sometime#
11:09:33  <V453000> why not coop on a random map? :(
11:10:19  <fonsinchen> I want a map with few secondary industries. Otherwise it's too hard.
11:10:36  <fonsinchen> I'm going to change cargodist because of that, but I haven't, yet.
11:11:16  <V453000> im rather talking about the weirdness of the wasteland then amount of industries
11:11:38  <V453000> industries can be spawned as desired on any map :)
11:14:36  <fonsinchen> I like weird maps
11:15:31  <V453000> weird is nice but this has no sense :/
11:18:13  <V453000> btw. why the 2cc trainset has all train wagons and engines moved to the back of the sprite position? it looks so bad and incompatible with everything else, trains look bad in curves, when entering tunnels or when combined with other trainsets :((
11:18:28  <V453000> (as I saw a discusion about 2cc earlier :) )
11:19:07  <fonsinchen> If the reluctance to play the wasteland scenario is a common feeling here, I might change my mind.
11:20:00  <V453000> cooperation can take harder tasks than people who play alone :)
11:20:04  <V453000> especially with cargodist imo
11:27:22  <fonsinchen> The map is still fairly hard; and I can make it even harder with slope-steepness and weight multipliers
11:28:30  <fonsinchen> We can, for example set the goal to grow the towns. This will be quite a task
11:32:37  <V453000> well not really
11:32:50  <V453000> making a hole in a map and putting there a town isnt a hard thing
11:32:59  <V453000> hard thing is to spam indusries and connect them all :)
11:35:52  <fonsinchen> In the last test game we had the problem of dieing secondary industries
11:36:17  <fonsinchen> eh ,,, dieing primary industries
11:36:40  <fonsinchen> because there were too many secondaries and you wouldn't get a good rating because of that.
11:36:54  <fonsinchen> I want to avoid that this time.
11:49:26  <fonsinchen> There you go:
11:49:39  <fonsinchen> and I have also pushed it into my git repository.
11:49:51  <fonsinchen> TrueBrain, can you build it now?
11:50:11  <fonsinchen> sorry
12:15:06  <Ammler> fonsinchen: btw. is a very ugly domain from German POV
12:16:00  <fonsinchen> hihi
12:16:15  <Ammler> where are you from?
12:16:59  <Ammler> are you Tobias Josefowitz?
12:17:06  <fonsinchen> No
12:17:10  <fonsinchen> But I know him
12:19:31  <Ammler> are you one of those: :-)
12:20:25  <Ammler> how do you spell it in English btw?
12:21:46  <fonsinchen> no
12:21:55  <fonsinchen> spell what?
12:22:13  <fonsinchen> the catholic cucumber is already in english ...
12:24:57  <Ammler> pronounce*
12:25:06  <Ammler> fickzoo
12:25:44  <fonsinchen> well, the word is open for interpretation. It has something to do with "zoo" and "fucking"
12:25:59  <fonsinchen> everything else is in your imagination.
12:26:11  <Ammler> yeah, that makes it quite perverse
12:28:59  <Ammler> the url costs you a lot reputation I would guess
12:30:46  <planetmaker> it does :-P
12:37:01  <fonsinchen> I don't consider this to be my problem.
12:37:31  <fonsinchen> It's a problem between you and your respective imagination.
12:38:14  <planetmaker> Your reputation is not my problem.
12:39:27  <planetmaker> Your statement basically is that any word is subject to interpretation. Well, yeah. But language is about a common base set of interpretation of words.
12:39:55  <planetmaker> And whatever I image when hearing / reading it - it's vulgar to say at least
12:41:00  <planetmaker> But then I don't mind :-)
12:42:45  <fonsinchen> That's a little contradictory, isn't it? Either you don't mind, then I don't see how it costs me reputation from you. Or it does cost me reputation from you, but then you seem to mind.
12:43:46  <planetmaker> :-) I have no problem either way.
12:44:48  <planetmaker> it depends upon basically what you call 'reputation' :-)
12:46:03  <planetmaker> given that IRC / forum / ... communication gives little clues about other people, the owned URL(s) can is a piece in the puzzle one makes of the other person :-)
12:47:44  <planetmaker> and the URL name has a strong "mentally teenage boy" 'scent'
12:48:18  <planetmaker> whether or not that's true - that's an entirely different issue.
12:48:39  * fonsinchen puts on a t-shirt with "Zicke" written on it.
12:48:44  <planetmaker> :-)
12:50:01  <planetmaker> shall we continue? ;-)
12:50:13  <planetmaker> Your forum avatar kinda rather makes me thing 'teenage girl' ;-)
12:51:13  * fonsinchen stops giving further clues
12:51:33  <planetmaker> hehe.
12:52:56  <Ammler> fonsinchen: it isn't about my imagination, it simply tells me you like fuckint animals :-)
12:53:29  <Ammler> I need imagination to see something not ugly :-P
12:54:31  <planetmaker> hm... do you live in the same town as Tobias Josefowitz?
12:54:40  <fonsinchen> no
12:55:16  <fonsinchen> but I actually don't know what address he has given in the whois
12:55:21  <fonsinchen> so maybe
12:57:42  <planetmaker> something not far from here :-P
12:59:26  <planetmaker> which seems credible according to the telephone book ;-)
12:59:51  <planetmaker> probably his mother's address
13:00:28  <planetmaker> or he's married and it's his wife ;-)
13:03:37  <fonsinchen> I have looked it up myself now: It's not the town I live in.
13:22:39  <fonsinchen> Any suggestions for settings and newgrfs?
13:22:52  <Ammler> japan?
13:23:16  <fonsinchen> why not ...
13:23:38  <Ammler> of course every station set
13:23:50  <fonsinchen> that's a lot.
13:24:12  <Ammler> yes, but those don't conflict
13:24:31  <Ammler> the only type :-)
13:25:34  <planetmaker> Japanese sounds nice.
13:25:49  <planetmaker> What climate has the map?
13:25:59  <KenjiE20>  なに?
13:26:01  <KenjiE20> :P
13:26:10  <planetmaker> might be fun to run ... :-P tropical
13:28:56  <fonsinchen> tropical
13:29:10  <fonsinchen> does japanese work in tropical?
13:29:47  <Ammler> @makeop fonsinchen
13:32:11  <fonsinchen> japanese trains, landscape and signals don't work in tropical
13:32:43  <fonsinchen> I'm wondering why those grf authors are restricting their grfs to certain climates ...
13:34:30  <planetmaker> you're not alone with wondering about that :-)
13:38:55  <fonsinchen> So we cannot use the japan set here, sorry.
13:39:08  <planetmaker> shit happens.
13:39:14  <fonsinchen> I like tropic refurbishment
13:39:21  * planetmaker agrees
13:39:34  <planetmaker> that's what I thought about when I proposed tropic
13:39:47  <planetmaker> maybe the NA city set along with it?
13:40:22  <fonsinchen> can be done
13:40:41  <planetmaker> it then could give a bit... dunno Mexican flair or so :-)
13:40:43  <fonsinchen> japanese buildings work also in tropic, though.
13:40:47  <Ammler> what server are you running?
13:41:07  <Ammler> your own, or our?
13:41:13  <fonsinchen> yours
13:41:20  <fonsinchen> I that's OK for you.
13:41:21  <Ammler> you have access to setup?
13:41:36  <fonsinchen> I should have, but I need some directions
13:41:46  <fonsinchen> first I'm setting up a start.sav, though
13:42:12  <fonsinchen> so who wants NA city set and who wants japanese buildings?
13:42:24  <Ammler> both :-P
13:42:38  <fonsinchen> does that work?
13:42:40  <Ammler> NA city is a bit monotone, imo
13:43:01  <Ammler> yes, house sets are usually also mixable
13:43:21  <fonsinchen> NA city set isn't on bananas, is it?
13:43:50  <planetmaker> hm, dunno. It's in our grfpack, though
13:44:07  <planetmaker> I guess it isn't on bananas. It's one of those canset thingies
13:44:57  <fonsinchen> maybe we just use japanese buildings then. I'd like to keep the barrier low for people to join.
13:45:08  <fonsinchen> we need a tram set
13:46:03  <planetmaker> japanese trams?
13:46:31  <planetmaker> generic trams is on bananas
13:47:15  <planetmaker> the only other one I see there is Dutch
13:47:24  <planetmaker> Which wouldn't quite fit the setting I see evolving
13:48:03  <fonsinchen> I have eGRVTS, generic trams, durch and suspended monorail
13:48:16  <fonsinchen> suspended monorail sounds funny
13:48:21  <fonsinchen> has anyone tried that?
13:49:58  <planetmaker> long ago, I don't quite recall
13:50:20  <planetmaker> having that many sets makes IMHO for a bit too long vehicle list
13:50:47  <fonsinchen> I'm only adding one of them
13:51:21  <fonsinchen> I'm using japanese and industrial stations now. That should be enough, I guess.
13:55:08  <planetmaker> hm...
13:55:25  <planetmaker> add also rural stations
13:55:31  <planetmaker> and suburban
13:55:42  <planetmaker> they can be fun :-)
13:56:28  <fonsinchen> OK
13:57:41  <fonsinchen> vehicles never expire: on or off?
13:57:51  <planetmaker> what about NA roads with parameter such that dirt roads are used?
13:58:06  <planetmaker> personally I prefer vehicles never expire
13:58:15  <planetmaker> time flow in openttd is anyway weired.
13:58:57  <fonsinchen> NA roads isn't on bananas
13:59:20  <planetmaker> true, forgot about that
14:00:01  <planetmaker> wanna add FIRS? ;-)
14:00:10  <planetmaker> oh, and FISH definitely
14:00:20  <planetmaker> maybe HEQS?
14:00:40  <planetmaker> IMHO FISH and HEQS are basically without alternative currently
14:00:43  <fonsinchen> FISH is useless. There is no water
14:00:50  <planetmaker> canals :-)
14:00:56  <fonsinchen> FIRS is difficult as the industries are already there
14:01:01  <planetmaker> ok
14:01:08  <fonsinchen> HEQS can be done
14:01:10  <planetmaker> but then houses are also already there
14:01:25  <fonsinchen> but they will be regenerated into japanese ones :)
14:01:46  <fonsinchen> and 2cc chimera works with tropic refurbishment ;)
14:03:52  <fonsinchen> a plane set maybe? I don't like planes so I'd like to make them expensive.
14:04:53  <planetmaker> fonsinchen, then add the base cost modifier newgrf with appropriate parameters
14:05:02  <planetmaker> and / or limit the amount of trains per company to... 10
14:05:17  <planetmaker> maybe usein av8 1.7?
14:05:21  <planetmaker> *using
14:07:57  <fonsinchen> OK, av8 with 10 planes per company
14:08:12  <fonsinchen> any further grf suggestions?
14:08:57  <planetmaker> what's the list now?
14:10:03  <planetmaker> stations + tropic refurbishment + <some tram> + heqs + chimera + av8?
14:11:03  <fonsinchen> suspended monorail as trams
14:11:37  <fonsinchen> and japanese stations, trees, buildings
14:12:21  <planetmaker> well... give it a shot, I think
14:14:20  <fonsinchen> currency: Yen, dirve left, french town names (as that cannot be changed anymore)
14:15:54  <fonsinchen> weight multiplier 7, slopes for RV: 10%, realistic acceleration for RV
14:20:25  <fonsinchen> trees only in rain forest is a nice option ... but probably too evil in this case.
14:21:14  <planetmaker> uh... drive left :S
14:21:17  <fonsinchen> any further suggestions for settings?
14:21:31  <fonsinchen> japanese drive left,  don't they?
14:21:39  <planetmaker> currency is a local setting and not relevant for the savegame. Yes, they do.
14:25:45  <fonsinchen> Well, then we have a start.sav now, I guess:
14:25:56  <fonsinchen> I'll be back in an hour or two.
14:30:26  <planetmaker> enjoy :-)
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14:40:55  <Chris_Booth> @devoice
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15:26:40  <fonsinchen> I'm back
15:26:58  <planetmaker> welcome back
15:27:43  <fonsinchen> Could you tell me the login username of the server? I'd like to set it up now. And I'm still open to suggestions.
15:28:02  <fonsinchen> I have an ssh key there, but I forgot the username.
15:28:03  <planetmaker> <-- I couldn't help myself to google a bit. Is that happening known to you? ;-)
15:28:04  <Webster> Title: YouTube - Fickzoo (at
15:28:12  <planetmaker> ottdc
15:28:23  <planetmaker>
15:29:27  <fonsinchen> I haven't seen that video before. Must be some fans of ours.
15:29:55  <planetmaker> :-)
15:30:40  <fonsinchen> :)
15:30:44  <fonsinchen> rofl
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15:36:12  <fonsinchen> and how does the autopilot work?
15:36:24  <fonsinchen> and shall we enable desync debug?
15:37:05  <planetmaker> if you like, we can do that
15:37:23  <planetmaker> probably worth it.
15:37:31  <planetmaker> desync debug=3
15:37:36  <planetmaker> can be done via command line
15:37:59  <planetmaker> but I guess it needs to be a debug build for that
15:38:01  <Ammler> also do svn up
15:38:17  <Ammler> there are some pause message fixes
15:38:42  <fonsinchen> svn up on what?
15:39:00  <Ammler> cd autopilot/ && svn up
15:39:06  <fonsinchen> ah
15:39:15  <fonsinchen> and then, how do I start the autopilot?
15:39:26  <Ammler> ./autopilot.tcl load save/...
15:39:40  <Ammler> maybe ./autopilot.tcl load save/... | tee game.log
15:39:56  <planetmaker> yeah. the latter is nicer
15:40:00  <Ammler> hmm
15:40:01  <Ammler> no
15:40:13  <fonsinchen> how does it know which openttd to start?
15:40:19  <Ammler> if you use desync debug and not logging patch
15:40:32  <Ammler> it is a bit useless and you have a command log in autosaves
15:40:55  <Ammler> fonsinchen: it starts ./openttd
15:41:04  <Ammler> so you need to copy the bundle to autopilot
15:41:14  <Ammler> cp bundle/* autopilot/ -Rf
15:41:36  <Ammler> or whereevery you build it
15:43:57  <Ammler> fonsinchen: do you use
15:44:15  <Ammler> doesn't look like
15:44:23  <Ammler> as it copies to play-is
15:44:47  <fonsinchen> at the moment I just do "make"
15:45:13  <fonsinchen> but I'll do "make bundle" next and then see where I'm going to put the result
15:45:53  <Ammler> ~/svn-cargodist/autopilot
15:47:02  <fonsinchen> yes, I did that
15:47:47  <Ammler> fonsinchen: maybe you could update
15:48:05  <Ammler> specially the point about update git repo
15:48:11  <Ammler> is that just git pull?
15:48:14  <fonsinchen> what is
15:48:31  <Ammler> a bash script in ~/git-repos/cargodist
15:50:02  <fonsinchen> is it worth it?
15:52:35  <fonsinchen> OK, I've updated it.
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15:54:57  <Tycoon> Autopilot engaged
15:54:57  <Tycoon> Loading savegame: '{} Cargodist'
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15:55:10  * planetmaker is off for a bit
15:55:35  <fonsinchen> OK, it's running.
15:55:58  <fonsinchen> Where can I set the maximum number of companies?
15:57:17  <Ammler> fonsinchen: easiest is here
15:57:20  <Ammler> !rcon
15:57:30  <fonsinchen> !rcon
15:57:30  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: you are not allowed to use !rcon
15:57:42  <fonsinchen>  ...
15:58:23  <Ammler> @op fonsinchen
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15:59:00  <fonsinchen> !port
15:59:13  <fonsinchen> !rcon
16:00:24  <fonsinchen> !rcon help
16:00:24  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: ---- OpenTTD Console Help ----
16:00:24  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: - commands: [command to list all commands: list_cmds]
16:00:24  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: call commands with '<command> <arg2> <arg3>...'
16:00:24  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: - to assign strings, or use them as arguments, enclose it within quotes
16:00:24  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: like this: '<command> "string argument with spaces"'
16:00:25  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: you have 3 more messages
16:00:43  <fonsinchen> !help
16:01:07  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings companies
16:01:07  <Tycoon> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
16:01:07  <Tycoon> Ammler: network.autoclean_companies = on
16:01:07  <Tycoon> Ammler: network.max_companies = 15
16:01:07  <Tycoon> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
16:01:30  <Ammler> fonsinchen: just ask
16:01:46  <fonsinchen> I'm looking for the port it's running on
16:01:46  <Ammler> !rcon server_name
16:01:46  <Tycoon> Ammler: Current value for 'server_name' is: ' Cargodist'
16:02:02  <Ammler> !ip
16:02:02  <Tycoon> Ammler:
16:02:13  <Ammler> but that doesn't need to be true
16:02:18  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings port
16:02:18  <Tycoon> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
16:02:18  <Tycoon> Ammler: station.never_expire_airports = off
16:02:18  <Tycoon> Ammler: network.server_port = 3999
16:02:18  <Tycoon> Ammler: network.last_port = 0
16:02:18  <Tycoon> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
16:02:22  <Ammler> it is :-)
16:02:52  <fonsinchen> !rcon my openttd doesn't see it there ...
16:02:52  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: ERROR: command not found
16:03:01  <Ammler> :-P
16:03:09  <Ammler> !revision
16:03:09  <Tycoon> Ammler: Game version is g3c5595c9-cd
16:03:21  <Ammler> what if you add it manually?
16:03:23  <Ammler> !url
16:03:23  <Tycoon> Ammler:
16:03:51  <Ammler> yeah, offline :-)
16:03:58  <Ammler> s/:-)/:-(/
16:05:07  <Ammler> let me check the fw
16:07:49  <Ammler> yes, fw is closed
16:07:57  <Ammler> will open in the next minutes
16:09:49  <fonsinchen> !rcon setting network.max_companies = 3
16:09:49  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]'
16:09:49  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting.
16:09:56  <fonsinchen> !rcon setting network.max_companies  3
16:10:17  <fonsinchen> !rcon list_settings companies
16:10:17  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: All settings with their current value:
16:10:17  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: network.autoclean_companies = on
16:10:17  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: network.max_companies = 3
16:10:17  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: Use 'setting' command to change a value
16:10:17  <Ammler> no response=success
16:10:32  <fonsinchen> !rcon list_settings network
16:10:32  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: All settings with their current value:
16:10:32  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: gui.network_chat_box_width = 700
16:10:32  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: gui.network_chat_box_height = 25
16:10:32  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: network.sync_freq = 100
16:10:32  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: network.frame_freq = 0
16:10:33  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: you have 27 more messages
16:10:51  <Ammler> if you know the key, you can query it with set but without value
16:10:51  <fonsinchen> !rcon list_settings connected
16:10:51  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: All settings with their current value:
16:10:51  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: Use 'setting' command to change a value
16:10:53  <fonsinchen> !rcon list_settings connect
16:10:53  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: All settings with their current value:
16:10:53  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: network.connect_to_ip =
16:10:53  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: Use 'setting' command to change a value
16:11:02  <fonsinchen> !rcon list_settings minimum
16:11:02  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: All settings with their current value:
16:11:02  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: Use 'setting' command to change a value
16:11:28  <fonsinchen> How do I specify the minimum number of clients needed to unpause?
16:11:41  <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients
16:11:41  <Tycoon> Ammler: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 255)
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16:12:09  <Ammler> !dl
16:12:09  <Tycoon> Ammler: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|deb.etch|deb.lenny|lin|lin64|source|win32|win64|win9x
16:12:13  <Ammler> !dl lin
16:12:13  <Tycoon> Ammler:
16:12:16  <fonsinchen> OK, something is wrong
16:12:30  <fonsinchen> this is the default title game
16:12:42  <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (leaving)
16:12:47  <Ammler> start the game without autopilot
16:12:56  <Ammler> and -d grf=1
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16:14:14  <Ammler> fonsinchen: path of the save?
16:14:53  <fonsinchen> save/start.grf
16:14:59  <fonsinchen> save/start.sav
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16:15:43  <Tycoon> Starting new game: '{} Cargodist'
16:15:43  <Tycoon> Landscape: tropic
16:15:43  <Tycoon> Dimensions: 512x512
16:15:43  <Tycoon> Starting year: 1950
16:15:43  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Tycoon
16:15:46  <Ammler> !content
16:16:06  <Ammler> hmm
16:17:20  <Ammler> need to open anther port
16:17:24  <fonsinchen> I'll be back in a few minutes
16:17:26  <Ammler> sorry about that :-(
16:23:34  <fonsinchen> Have you opened the port?
16:30:05  <Ammler> fonsinchen: yes
16:30:14  <Ammler> !content
16:31:17  <Tycoon> Server closed down by admin
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16:31:39  <Tycoon> Loading savegame: '{} Cargodist'
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16:31:42  <Ammler> !info
16:31:43  <Tycoon> Ammler: #:1(Red) Company Name: 'Unnamed'  Year Founded: 1919  Money: 99808  Loan: 100000  Value: 1  (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
16:31:52  <Ammler> is that your map?
16:32:10  <Ammler> !revision
16:32:10  <Tycoon> Ammler: Game version is g3c5595c9-cd
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16:32:20  <Ammler> !dl lin
16:32:20  <Tycoon> Ammler:
16:32:24  <fonsinchen> looks good
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16:34:06  <fonsinchen> nice
16:34:20  <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game
16:34:21  <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick
16:34:26  <fonsinchen> how do I find out how many clients have to be connected to make the game start?
16:34:54  <Ammler> !rcon min_active_clients
16:34:54  <Tycoon> Ammler: ERROR: command not found
16:34:57  <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients
16:34:57  <Tycoon> Ammler: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 255)
16:35:10  <Ammler> but it might be paused manually?
16:35:15  <Ammler> did you update autopilot?
16:35:18  <fonsinchen> yes
16:35:25  <fonsinchen> it is paused manually
16:35:27  <Ammler> !rcon unpause
16:35:28  <Tycoon> *** Game unpaused (manual)
16:35:39  <fonsinchen> I'd still like to set that to 2
16:35:47  <Ammler> it is
16:36:11  <Tycoon> <Player> what a strange map
16:36:19  <Tycoon> *** Player has changed his/her name to Amm1er
16:36:46  <fonsinchen> I'll announce it now
16:37:06  <Tycoon> <Amm1er> you really like this map?
16:37:16  <fonsinchen> you don't?
16:37:24  <Tycoon> <Amm1er> :-D
16:37:32  <fonsinchen> If no one likes it we can play a different one.
16:37:53  <Tycoon> <Amm1er> I don't care
16:39:04  <Tycoon> <Amm1er> there is no food
16:39:18  <Tycoon> <Amm1er> well, some fruits
16:40:12  <Tycoon> <Amm1er> interesting tunnels
16:40:13  <fonsinchen> and some maize
16:40:20  <Tycoon> <Amm1er> did you add the fast bus?
16:41:15  <fonsinchen> no
16:41:30  <fonsinchen> there's plenty road vehicles to play with, though
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16:51:06  <V453000> wee
16:51:13  <V453000> !dl win32
16:51:13  <Tycoon> V453000:
16:51:25  <Ammler> that is the old version
16:51:43  <Ammler>
16:52:20  <V453000> tanks :)
16:52:21  <fonsinchen> can we change the output of that command somewhere?
16:52:56  <Ammler> yes
16:53:08  <Ammler> but it seems not to match !revision
16:53:11  <Ammler> !revision
16:53:11  <Tycoon> Ammler: Game version is g3c5595c9-cd
16:53:19  <fonsinchen> how?
16:53:20  <Ammler> ah, like last time already
16:53:27  <Ammler> fonsinchen: screen 0
16:54:49  <Ammler> !dl lin
16:54:49  <Tycoon> Ammler:
16:54:56  <fonsinchen> !dl win23
16:54:56  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: unknown option "win23"
16:55:07  <Ammler> !dl
16:55:07  <Tycoon> Ammler: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|deb.etch|deb.lenny|lin|lin64|source|win32|win64|win9x
16:55:08  <fonsinchen> !dl win32
16:55:08  <Tycoon> fonsinchen:
16:55:09  <V453000> !ip
16:55:09  <Tycoon> V453000:
16:55:21  <Ammler> I don't think, autostart etc. works
16:55:36  <V453000> dont see -.-
16:55:59  <fonsinchen> !dl autostart
16:55:59  <Tycoon> fonsinchen:
16:56:10  <Ammler> !dl
16:56:10  <Tycoon> Ammler: !dl deb.etch|deb.lenny|lin|lin64|osx|source|win32|win64|win9x
16:56:24  <fonsinchen> what is autostart supposed to be?
16:56:25  <Ammler> !dl osx
16:56:25  <Tycoon> Ammler:
16:56:44  <Ammler> !dl osx
16:56:44  <Tycoon> Ammler: sorry, there is no build for macosx-universal, please compile it yourself! If possible, share with others
16:57:39  <Ammler> fonsinchen: like the homepage tells
16:57:55  <Ammler> a bash script similar to the windows thing ottdau
16:58:32  <Ammler> does ottdau work?
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18:15:42  <fonsinchen> maybe we should update the topic title ...
18:17:48  *** fonsinchen changes topic to "#openttdcoop patch test channel - Cargo Distribution | | STAGE: game is running | Tag/Revision: g3c5595c9-cd | Binaries:"
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18:34:04  <mib_a0pdre> Anyone here?
18:36:38  <V453000> no
18:37:26  <mib_a0pdre> :)
18:37:33  <mib_a0pdre> How do I get to the cargodist server?
18:37:37  <mib_a0pdre> what's the address/name?
18:38:15  <planetmaker> !IP
18:38:21  <planetmaker> !ip
18:38:21  <Tycoon> planetmaker:
18:38:43  <mib_a0pdre> I typed that into Add Server but it didn't do anything
18:39:11  <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (leaving)
18:40:06  <fonsinchen> maybe it showed up at the bottom of the list?
18:40:19  <fonsinchen> Or maybe you're not using the right binary?
18:40:32  <fonsinchen> What version does it tell in the title screen?
18:40:55  <mib_a0pdre> g3c5595c9M-cd
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18:40:57  <mib_a0pdre> I just got it
18:41:00  <PeterT> hey hey
18:41:10  <fonsinchen> it works for me, I just rechecked
18:41:15  <fonsinchen> do you see the other servers?
18:41:18  <PeterT> !revision
18:41:18  <Tycoon> PeterT: Game version is g3c5595c9-cd
18:41:30  <PeterT> fonsinchen: you figured out the M problem?
18:41:37  <fonsinchen> sort of
18:41:49  <mib_a0pdre> so is my version different?
18:41:49  <fonsinchen> it is temporarily silenced
18:41:59  <fonsinchen> ah, you have "M"
18:42:02  <fonsinchen> that's wrong
18:42:10  <fonsinchen> where did you get that binary from?
18:42:12  <mib_a0pdre> that's the version at the compiler
18:42:17  <fonsinchen> oh no ....
18:42:22  <mib_a0pdre>
18:42:26  <fonsinchen> what platform?
18:42:28  <fonsinchen> Windows?
18:42:32  <mib_a0pdre> Windows 65-bit
18:42:34  <mib_a0pdre> *65
18:42:35  <mib_a0pdre> 64
18:42:43  * fonsinchen bangs head on table
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18:43:08  <fonsinchen> has anyone checked the 32bit-Windows version?
18:43:22  <mib_a0pdre> should I get thato ne?
18:43:46  <fonsinchen> If you could check the revision on that it would be very helpful
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18:44:11  <mib_a0pdre> Well, at the site it has the same name
18:44:15  <mib_a0pdre> should I download it to check?
18:44:53  <fonsinchen> I think you are looking at the wrong site
18:45:03  <fonsinchen>
18:45:05  <mib_a0pdre> Where should I go?
18:45:14  <mib_a0pdre> That's the same link
18:45:32  <fonsinchen> not
18:45:48  <fonsinchen> but on 3c55... the file names are without "M"
18:46:20  <fonsinchen> so, yes, please download and check the 32bit-Version
18:46:22  <mib_a0pdre> but it gave me one with m
18:46:33  <mib_a0pdre> right-o
18:46:46  <fonsinchen> so obviously the file names and the game version don't match
18:46:55  <fonsinchen> ?
18:47:09  <mib_a0pdre> it has m too
18:47:37  <mib_a0pdre> strange
18:47:46  <mib_a0pdre> Hah! I found the server
18:47:48  <fonsinchen> well ... we need someone to recompile the windows binaries manually now
18:47:49  <mib_a0pdre> Version Mismatch
18:47:55  <mib_a0pdre> that sucks
18:48:22  <mib_a0pdre> how long will that take?
18:49:01  <fonsinchen> I don't know. I first need an idea on how to do that.
18:58:34  <Ammler> !revision
18:58:34  <Tycoon> Ammler: Game version is g3c5595c9-cd
18:58:44  <mib_a0pdre> !revision
18:58:44  <Tycoon> mib_a0pdre: Game version is g3c5595c9-cd
18:58:49  <Ammler> fonsinchen: it would be nice, if that matches  ^
18:58:55  <mib_a0pdre> pity that it doesn't
18:58:56  <Ammler> !dl lin
18:58:56  <Tycoon> Ammler:
18:59:06  <Ammler> I mean the "-cd"
18:59:23  <Ammler> then we could reuse that for the dl path
19:00:07  <fonsinchen> I don't know where the file name is generated.
19:04:47  <Ammler> fonsinchen: 3rd parameter at
19:07:16  <fonsinchen> findversion doesn't accept parameters as far as I can see
19:15:09  <planetmaker> return parameter :-)
19:16:43  <fonsinchen> the third "return parameter" is the modification bit
19:22:08  <mib_a0pdre> so?
19:22:13  <mib_a0pdre> any solution?
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19:56:21  <Ammler> fonsinchen: why does it matter, how clean your $CLEAN_REV is, if you patch the whole openttd?
19:57:07  <Ammler> as long as it is different to official openttd, all fine
19:59:21  <Ammler> g9e7e0a6b-cd    19821   0       g9e7e0a6b <-- that is just :-(
20:00:16  <fonsinchen> I have different branches
20:00:31  <Ammler> then you could add -$BRANCH
20:00:47  <Ammler> or whatever
20:00:58  <Ammler> I am quite sure, it would have been possible
20:01:04  <fonsinchen> again: if you're interested in the branch name, why don't you read the first field?
20:01:17  <Ammler> it isn't me, it is the compile-farm
20:01:43  <Ammler> the compile farm uses the 4th field
20:01:58  <fonsinchen> that's stupid of the compile farm
20:02:13  <Ammler> well, but easy workaroundable
20:04:08  <Ammler> hmm, we could now simply remove the branch for the path
20:15:31  <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (leaving)
20:15:41  <Tycoon> Server closed down by admin
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20:17:37  <Tycoon> Autopilot engaged
20:17:37  <Tycoon> Loading savegame: '{} Cargodist'
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20:23:48  *** fonsinchen changes topic to "#openttdcoop patch test channel - Cargo Distribution | | STAGE: game is running | Tag/Revision: g9e7e0a6b-cd | Binaries: will be available soon"
20:23:55  <PeterT> !dl win32
20:23:55  <Tycoon> PeterT:
20:24:06  <fonsinchen> that's wrong
20:24:47  <PeterT> !revision
20:24:48  <Tycoon> PeterT: Game version is g9e7e0a6b-cd
20:25:05  <PeterT> it's not there :-(
20:25:13  <PeterT> at
20:25:33  <fonsinchen> !rcon setting network.max_companies = 3
20:25:33  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]'
20:25:33  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting.
20:25:39  <fonsinchen> !rcon setting network.max_companies 3
20:26:04  <fonsinchen> PeterT: read the topic title again
20:26:20  <PeterT> Ah
20:30:24  <fonsinchen> !rcon setting network.max_companies
20:30:25  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: Current value for 'network.max_companies' is: '3' (min: 1, max: 15)
20:34:53  <fonsinchen> !dl win32
20:34:53  <Tycoon> fonsinchen:
20:36:14  *** fonsinchen changes topic to "#openttdcoop patch test channel - Cargo Distribution | | STAGE: game is running | Tag/Revision: g9e7e0a6b-cd | Binaries:"
20:37:59  <fonsinchen> so, the binaries are available now and the server is running again.
20:38:20  <planetmaker> nice :-)
20:38:22  <planetmaker> !dl osx
20:38:22  <Tycoon> planetmaker: sorry, there is no build for macosx-universal, please compile it yourself! If possible, share with others
20:38:25  <planetmaker> hmpf
20:38:30  <planetmaker> of course :-)
20:38:43  <planetmaker> !dl svn
20:38:43  <Tycoon> planetmaker: unknown option "svn"
20:38:55  <fonsinchen> !dl
20:38:55  <planetmaker> !dl
20:38:55  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: !dl deb.etch|deb.lenny|lin|lin64|osx|source|win32|win64|win9x
20:38:56  <Tycoon> planetmaker: !dl deb.etch|deb.lenny|lin|lin64|osx|source|win32|win64|win9x
20:39:05  <planetmaker> !dl source
20:39:05  <Tycoon> planetmaker:
20:40:12  <Ammler> !svn
20:40:14  <Ammler> !git
20:44:49  <fonsinchen> !dl lin64
20:44:50  <Tycoon> fonsinchen:
20:46:02  <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (connection lost)
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20:50:19  <planetmaker> fonsinchen:
20:51:27  <Tycoon> *** test joined the game
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20:52:41  <fonsinchen> interesting, I should fix that
20:53:23  <fonsinchen> OK, the versions match for linux 64bit and win32
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20:56:09  <planetmaker> hmpf. The source is noRev00
20:56:19  <planetmaker> so another advantage of setting the version explicitly
20:56:25  <fonsinchen> That's because you probably don't have git
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20:56:37  <planetmaker> I don't. I used the supplied source bundle
20:56:40  <fonsinchen> you can just edit rev.cpp in this case
20:56:46  <planetmaker> But that should give me the version, shouldn't it?
20:56:52  <planetmaker> no, configure will do
20:56:57  <planetmaker> ./configure --revision=blubber
20:56:59  <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Hmm, intresting map as always...
20:57:10  <Ammler> the same with official nightly sources
20:57:35  <planetmaker> really, nightlies show the same? I guess I didn't download a source bundle of OpenTTD for about 2.5 years
20:57:43  <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has joined company #1
20:57:55  <planetmaker> !revision
20:57:55  <Tycoon> planetmaker: Game version is g9e7e0a6b-cd
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20:58:55  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> hello folks
20:59:02  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> ups?
20:59:18  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> is the map indeed intended this way?
20:59:24  <fonsinchen> !unpause
20:59:24  <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.)
20:59:30  <fonsinchen> oops
20:59:36  <fonsinchen> yes
20:59:48  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> interesting
20:59:49  <fonsinchen> I have specially created it for this game
21:00:20  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> :-)
21:00:27  <fonsinchen> why is it still paused?
21:00:34  <fonsinchen> !auto
21:00:34  <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has enabled autopause mode.
21:00:48  <Zuu> "!rcon unpasue" might work?
21:00:58  <fonsinchen> !rcon unpause
21:00:59  <Tycoon> *** Game unpaused (manual)
21:01:31  <fonsinchen> we need to wait for the first train to become available anyway
21:01:43  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> we setup bus service?
21:01:52  <Zuu> If you have op in this channel, you can use !rcon to execute any console command on the server you like.
21:02:24  <fonsinchen> trains will be available in a few months, buses will take longer
21:02:30  <fonsinchen> right now we only have planes
21:02:41  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> woot? Also no road vehicles?
21:02:44  <Zuu> What year is it?
21:02:51  <fonsinchen> 1919
21:03:03  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> loool
21:03:13  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> people invented planes here before land transport
21:03:19  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> what a strange world :-)
21:03:56  <Zuu> Well, with the far distancies they maybe had better use for planes :-p
21:04:14  <Zuu> But duno what they use the long tunnels for :-p
21:04:22  <Zuu> hangars?
21:05:27  <fonsinchen> the trains are there
21:06:03  <planetmaker> !rcon set plane_speed 1
21:06:03  <Tycoon> planetmaker: ERROR: This command/variable is not available during network games.
21:06:08  <planetmaker> darn
21:06:40  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> planes are currently flying at 35km/h effectively :S
21:06:54  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> we should make a plan
21:07:13  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> without money?
21:07:38  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> we should first make money :-)
21:07:40  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> we can first use the copper mines to create money makers
21:07:58  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> good idea. Let's start with that carefully
21:08:04  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> only 30k left
21:08:08  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> should be fairly easy even with the weak engines
21:08:14  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> maybe it gets better when the planes finally arrive. But I doubt it
21:08:20  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> we can borrow more
21:08:34  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> good :-)
21:09:08  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> which factory do we use?
21:09:23  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> shall we use the one near Orleons?
21:09:33  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> Orleans?
21:09:39  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> the one in the north is not that crowded with houses
21:09:55  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> and it has space for two very long tracks
21:10:01  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> so, yes
21:10:08  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I'll build a station there
21:10:22  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> you mean the Northern one in the Orleans pit?
21:10:37  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> yes you do :-P
21:10:43  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> the one where I built the station
21:10:57  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> TL=5?
21:11:07  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> ok
21:11:19  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> I'm asking :-) You built the station ;-)
21:11:31  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> hm, which is 7
21:11:37  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> ok, so 7
21:11:37  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I just made that as long as it would fit
21:11:59  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> one shorter
21:12:09  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> or we cannot add a x with tracks in front
21:12:50  <Zuu> Why not play the fun game of having longer stations than trains so you can see whom built the train depending on what client setting you have for the default stop location. :-D
21:13:12  <Zuu> Eg. I have 'middle' as default, but someone else might have 'far' or 'near' as default.
21:13:22  <Tycoon> * planetm4ker has near
21:14:46  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> noooo!
21:14:49  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> no ore wagons!
21:14:57  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> argh
21:15:09  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> will be available soon, though
21:18:21  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> I wonder where our planes might be ;-)
21:18:36  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> taking about a year for the distance
21:18:43  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> :-P
21:19:34  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> did you sell them again?
21:19:48  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> now we have waggons
21:19:59  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I didn't sell the planes
21:20:09  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> they're still there
21:20:31  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> right... I must have gotten a wrong click somewhere
21:26:47  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> :-P
21:26:53  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> built at wrong depot? ;-)
21:27:07  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> not a big problem, though
21:31:39  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> nice, we make profit :-)
21:36:01  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> lol @ income from planes
21:38:38  <Tycoon> * planetm4ker wonders whether we should consider double traction
21:38:54  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> 61 vs 64
21:39:09  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> not really worth it for copper
21:39:43  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> mainly the acceleration uphill.
21:39:47  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> how slow are the single traction trains on the hill climb?
21:39:51  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker>  but the difference is not really big
21:40:13  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> I didn't see a train with the same length going uphill with a single engine. So dunno
21:40:23  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> we'll know soon
21:40:49  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> we might be in for a nasty surprise ... the double traction train does only 45 uphill
21:41:00  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> yes, that I know :-)
21:41:06  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> might turn out the same
21:42:14  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> big difference
21:42:24  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> 27
21:42:44  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> but that's only a short distance
21:42:50  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> yup
21:43:53  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> fonsinchen: look at the waiting cargo of any station
21:44:11  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> it doesn't make sense to show the "+" if there's only one source, the station itself
21:44:35  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> often there will be multiple destinations
21:44:45  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> then you can see those with the "+"
21:45:32  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> and you don't want to open the additional details on all entries with only one source / destination /via
21:45:51  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> it quickly gets messy
21:46:09  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> yes
21:46:24  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> but when there's nothing to display, the + is distracting and mis-leading
21:46:50  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> all of our cargo has 3 levels of detail there
21:47:01  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> so there is always something to diesplay
21:49:17  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I guess we should sell the aircraft
21:49:32  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> lol yes
21:49:44  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> "Heading for someone" ??
21:49:50  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> that's interesting
21:49:50  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> they seem like a project of the same revenue like Virgin Galactic or so
21:50:12  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> look at their status bars
21:50:22  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> uh? someone? That's interesting
21:50:46  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> we don't get the same thing with trains, do we?
21:51:00  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> ah
21:51:06  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> they are heading to a depot
21:51:25  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> that'd need checking with current trunk
21:51:35  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> yes, I'm sending them to the depot in order to sell them
21:51:57  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> the string is definitely buggy :-)
21:53:37  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> it's a trunk bug
21:53:43  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> I'll make a report
21:54:06  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> ok, thanks
21:54:16  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> then I don't have to check
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21:58:02  <PeterT> !password
21:58:09  <PeterT> is there a password?
21:58:18  <fonsinchen> it's "coop"
21:58:30  <PeterT> Ok
21:58:44  <PeterT> I'm adding that to ottdau
21:59:07  <PeterT> thanks
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22:01:56  <Tycoon> <Peter> mah.
22:02:04  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> what are you trying to find outß
22:02:12  <Tycoon> <Peter> Just checking the commands
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22:02:32  <Tycoon> <Peter> fonsinchen: I was talking about a server password
22:02:34  <Tycoon> <Peter> not company password ;-)
22:03:00  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I didn't know
22:03:16  <Tycoon> * fonsinchen needs food
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22:03:26  <Tycoon> * planetm4ker needs sleep
22:03:38  <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> have a good night folks
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22:03:42  <PeterT> bye planetmaker
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