Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 3rd June 2009:
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01:33:15  <Brot5> Backup done! (Usage: 42M)
01:33:15  <Brot5> They collapsed ... like nuns in the street ... they had no teen appeal!
06:00:31  <CIA-6> planetmaker * r715 /ottdbash/autostart/patches/client_patches.diff: (log message trimmed)
06:00:31  <CIA-6> Update client_patches to r16507:
06:00:31  <CIA-6> compile_mac.diff
06:00:31  <CIA-6> pw_arguments.diff
06:00:32  <CIA-6> query_land_shortcut.diff
06:00:33  <CIA-6> station_build_gui.diff
06:00:33  <CIA-6> newgrf_gui.diff
06:12:17  <Brot> [DevZone] OTTDBash - Revision 715: Update client_patches to r16507: (planetmaker) -
06:27:17  <Brot> [DevZone] OpenGFX - Feature #148 (Closed): fill make bundle actually with zip and bzip2 files, too (planetmaker) -
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08:18:17  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Bug #153: CargoSprinter bug (DJNekkid) -
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10:04:36  <FooBar_> features, features, features :)
10:04:38  <FooBar_>
10:04:40  <Webster> Title: OpenGFX Authoroverview HTML Output (at
10:09:18  <Brot> [DevZone] OpenGFX - Support #146 (Closed): rename files to a more human readable form (foobar) -
10:30:38  <Ammler> FooBar_: my internet goes lost, if I call your statistics
10:31:02  <FooBar_> does it?
10:31:14  <FooBar_> weird
10:31:39  <FooBar_> Maybe too many images in too short time
10:37:42  <Ammler> strange is, it does not just break the browser, my whole connection is down, I need to reconnect. (WiFi)
10:38:02  <Ammler> but your script is awesome
10:38:09  <Ammler> why doesn't it support extra?
10:38:41  <FooBar_> thanks
10:38:58  <FooBar_> no extra because sprite range numbers are useless
10:39:29  <FooBar_> they either change if you change ogfxe_extra
10:40:05  <Ammler> su - ottdc
10:40:48  <FooBar_> or they don't match the actual sprite numbers because I used range numbers specific to Action5
10:41:19  <FooBar_> So each action5 starts with sprite 0 and since there's more than one action5 in _extra...
10:41:34  <FooBar_> What browser you using?
10:42:09  <FooBar_> I notice here that Internet Explorer times out after a while and just stops downloading images, while Firefox does just fine and completes the whole page
10:42:14  <Ammler> FF and Opera
10:42:21  <FooBar_> Both the same results?
10:42:34  <Ammler> yes, I had the same yesterday with opera
10:42:42  <Ammler> tried today with FF
10:43:00  <Ammler> well, I assume, it is my wifi router
10:43:01  <FooBar_> I would recommend testing with a wired connection if that's possible, just to see what that does
10:43:32  <Ammler> yes, I will, maybe :-)
10:43:44  <FooBar_> I don't recall putting anything weird in the script. Besides, output to the browser is just html, so not much should be wrong with that...
10:43:48  <Ammler> I am wired in the office...
10:44:13  <Ammler> oh, not against your script
10:44:20  <Ammler> that is all on my side, imo.
10:47:16  <FooBar_> you /could/ try what this does:*Star
10:47:26  <FooBar_> That's not a very large amount of sprites
10:48:42  <FooBar_> if that does work, the problem resides in a large number of image downloads
10:57:43  <Ammler> well, it woks mostly,
10:58:10  <Ammler> don't bother about my issue :-)
10:59:55  <planetmaker> the site works for me. At least here. At home it loads ages :P
11:00:14  <planetmaker> good day Ammler and FooBar_ btw :)
11:00:42  <Ammler> I am almost 100% sure, it is on my side :-)
11:00:53  <Ammler> and hiho planetmaker
11:04:31  <planetmaker> you know what sucks: "make: execvp: /bin/sh: Argument list too long"
11:05:06  <planetmaker> for a "simple" grep 'pcx' sprites/ogfx1_base.pnfo| awk '{ print  }' | grep -v 'Format' | sort -u | uniq -u > pcx.log
11:15:01  <FooBar_> good day to you to ;)
11:18:25  <FooBar_> too*
11:24:17  <Brot> [DevZone] OpenGFX - Revision 57: Doc: added PHP script to output authoroverview.csv into a website (foobar) -
11:25:00  <FooBar_> Ammler: if you want you can put it up at your own website
11:41:56  <Ammler> FooBar_: did you reset the logfile?
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12:35:35  <Brot6> "Hello World!"
12:40:46  <Brot6> HELLO
12:42:30  <Brot6> test
12:42:36  <Ammler> hmm
12:42:40  <planetmaker> HELLO BROT6!
12:42:40  <Brot6> hi
12:42:51  <Ammler> :-)
12:43:27  <Ammler> Brot6: is very kindly, isn't he?
12:43:44  <planetmaker> he is. And has a peculiar character :)
12:43:46  <Ammler> say !hello
12:46:42  <planetmaker> !hello
12:46:42  <Brot6> hello planetmaker :)
12:46:44  <planetmaker> :)
12:47:44  <planetmaker> hm... what's the benefit of being registered with it?
12:47:52  <Ammler> :-d
12:47:55  <Ammler> no idea
12:48:14  <Ammler> I know Brot6 a day, not longer :P
12:48:21  <planetmaker> :D
12:48:45  <Ammler> I should disable all commands
12:51:43  <Ammler> I can now trash Brot and Brot5 with
12:52:18  <planetmaker> :)
12:52:23  <planetmaker> Half the users here are bots.
12:52:35  <planetmaker> and it's not exagerated.
12:55:51  <Brot6> test
12:58:26  <Brot6> Yeah, it works!
13:02:45  <Brot6> last rcat test
13:54:04  <FooBar_> Ammler: I haven't reset anything...
13:56:02  <Ammler> it was empty this afternoon
13:56:09  <FooBar_> I don't even know if I have access to reset that...
13:56:15  <FooBar_> weirs :S
13:56:19  <FooBar_> d*
13:56:23  <Ammler> you are on full :-)
13:56:32  <Ammler> hmm
13:56:34  <Ammler> no
13:56:46  <FooBar_> It does count higher than 9 now though...
13:56:46  <Ammler> web can
13:58:17  <FooBar_> Maybe there's a leak that it resets itself on certain conditions
14:00:08  <FooBar_> Which is possible if it fails to open the log in the first place but manages to write it afterwards...
14:01:03  <Ammler> hmm
14:01:26  <Ammler> I have troubles to understand you rewrite rule
14:01:51  <Ammler> RewriteRule (.*\..*[^(php)])$
14:02:17  <Ammler> why not just (.*) ?
14:03:04  <Ammler> and a rewrite conditon for download.php
14:07:35  <FooBar_> Well, I've invented that to work without a condition
14:08:50  <FooBar_> you could indeed put (.*\..*) and use a condition with it
14:09:37  <FooBar_> or indeed (.*) since you have that "if is file" condition
14:11:51  <Ammler> something on my side is seriously broken
14:12:04  <Ammler> I can't call
14:12:04  <FooBar_> why is that?
14:12:27  <FooBar_> that indeed is serious my friend. As I can call it just fine...
14:13:28  <Ammler> :-(
14:14:12  <Ammler> I guess, I will just plain definitly trash Firefox
14:14:41  <planetmaker> works fine here. With firefox.
14:26:37  <Ammler> FooBar_: what happens with your script, if a lot synchron hits will happen?
14:27:28  <FooBar_> PHP usually should handle those hits consecutively (how do you spell that, like this?)
14:27:43  <Ammler> maybe the first idea, to make it with database wasn't that bad.
14:27:54  <Ammler> you mean one by one?
14:28:00  <FooBar_> yep
14:28:13  <Ammler> don't think so.
14:28:17  <FooBar_> first handle one call before handling the next
14:28:38  <Ammler> it should be capable to manage multiple calls parallel
14:28:43  <FooBar_> don't know if it actually does that, but I recall reading that somewhere...
14:29:15  <FooBar_> Either way, I'm remaking it that it can't reset itself
14:29:16  <Ammler> maybe it is true per thread
14:29:32  <Ammler> why not using mysql?
14:29:44  <FooBar_> because I have this now :P
14:29:59  <FooBar_> I can do sql if you like that better though
14:30:35  <Ammler> I don't care, I just think, handling with files for such matter might be the wrong way...
14:35:58  <FooBar_> well, if you can't (or don't want to) use a database it's perfectly fine
14:36:38  <Ammler> well, obviously something isn't :-)
14:36:58  <FooBar_> I have something now that shouldn't break itself, but it needs testing before I'll send it over
14:39:08  <Ammler> mäh, the definitiv move to Opera, will lose all my passwords and such.
14:44:13  <FooBar_> I hope you've stored those elsewhere as well. Otherwise have fun with all them "lost password" tools :)
14:45:28  <Ammler> well, in the email archive ;-)
14:45:44  <FooBar_> you trust email? :P
14:45:57  <Ammler> hehe
14:47:53  <Brot6> OpenGFX: update from r50 to r57, starting nightly compile
14:48:19  <Brot6> OpenGFX: nightlies compile finished with 21 errors:
14:49:26  <planetmaker> Ammler, I don't know how long your FF is running. But it helps FF to be restarted every week or so.
14:49:35  <planetmaker> It's not made to run for weeks without restart.
14:51:08  <Ammler> mostly I shutdown over night
14:52:19  <planetmaker> hm. we need a way to get rid of all those make clean "errors" which are no errors.
14:55:50  <FooBar_> ah, so that are them errors I keep seeing :)
14:56:42  <FooBar_> By the way, I thought that compile was at 18:18 CEST? This is more a "daily" now :P
14:56:44  <planetmaker> yes. Dunno how to not produce an error when deleting a non-existing file.
14:57:11  <FooBar_> @REMOVE ??
14:57:38  <planetmaker> @-rm ...
14:57:55  <planetmaker> so it produces it as warning. But I wouldn't even want that :)
14:58:07  <FooBar_> dunno if that works but @ is supposed to suppress errors...
14:58:25  <FooBar_> warning you say? that's worse :P
14:58:32  <planetmaker> it's supposed to suppress echoing of the command. But not it's output.
14:58:41  <planetmaker> Maybe I should pipe the rm to /dev/null :)
14:59:12  <FooBar_> well, you'll think of something :P
14:59:31  <FooBar_> warning is not worse by the way; I was mistaken
15:00:48  <planetmaker> doesn't help...
15:06:33  <Ammler> planetmaker: pipe error/warning to /dev/null
15:06:41  <planetmaker> didn't work
15:06:55  <planetmaker> @-rm *.orig > /dev/null
15:07:05  <planetmaker> produces the same thing as w/o > /dev/null
15:07:05  <Ammler> that is stdout
15:07:08  <Ammler> 2>
15:07:18  <planetmaker> hm. ah
15:08:10  <Ammler> else pipe everything to null and print a msg "All cleaned"
15:08:40  <planetmaker> hm... putting everything in one line and using -rf works....
15:08:43  <Ammler> how do you sync your Makefile with 2cc?
15:08:47  <planetmaker> even without 2> / dev/null
15:09:01  <planetmaker> they're both more or less in sync
15:09:21  <planetmaker> they cannot be completely as the structures are different.
15:09:41  <Ammler> which aren't configurable?
15:10:05  <Ammler> or is that more obg <-> newgrf issue?
15:11:05  <planetmaker> yes
15:11:19  <planetmaker> newgrf <-> obg makes the difference
15:11:28  <planetmaker> and that we have 6 grf for opengfx.
15:11:40  <planetmaker> which need no pre-processing and stuff.
15:13:21  <Ammler> but I could merge all my grfs to one project?
15:14:10  <Ammler> and then using something like make lumbermill
15:14:16  <Brot> [DevZone] OpenGFX - Revision 58: Change: make 'make clean' quiet (planetmaker) -
15:14:17  <Brot> [DevZone] OpenGFX - Revision 59: Fix (r58): don't commit random changes introduced for testing (planetmaker) -
15:14:30  <Ammler> lol
15:14:34  <planetmaker> :)
15:14:46  <Ammler> that is something you do almost everytime
15:14:58  <Ammler> but why don't you not just rollback?
15:15:04  <planetmaker> hm? Fix my previous commit?
15:15:11  <Ammler> yeah :-)
15:15:12  <planetmaker> because I noticed when I already pushed.
15:15:52  <planetmaker> :(
15:16:19  <Ammler> rollback does also work on serverside :-)
15:16:24  <planetmaker> ah well. yes.
15:16:51  <Ammler> or strip
15:18:15  <FooBar_> Ammler: here is new version of download log script. Including diff:
15:19:09  <FooBar_> Let us see how that performs. We can always switch to mysql for storage if this fails again.
15:20:18  <Brot> [DevZone] OpenGFX - Feature #140: download log script (foobar) -
15:26:37  <Ammler> oh, another task for brot6
15:26:43  <Ammler> FooBar_: installed.
15:32:12  <planetmaker> :)
15:32:26  <planetmaker> Brot, beware, Brot6 will take your tasks ;)
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16:26:31  <Brot6> ::redmine:: OpenGFX - Feature #105: Sprites 4623:4625 (3) - Modern office block @ (by foobar)
16:29:17  <Brot> [DevZone] OpenGFX - Feature #105: Sprites 4623:4625 (3) - Modern office block  (foobar) -
16:29:43  <planetmaker> hm... the output of Brot looks somewhat nicer IMO
16:31:45  <Ammler> doesn't need to be bold
16:32:53  <planetmaker> yes. But it's nice to see the project [IS2] [OpenGFX] [2cctrainset] in bold
16:33:10  <planetmaker> Which brot doesn't do quite, but nearly as with IS2 :)
16:37:09  <Ammler> hmm
16:38:59  <Ammler> well, that would be possible
16:47:17  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Feature #154: cement as cargo for silo wagons (planetmaker) -
16:47:18  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Feature #155: add a long version of the gondola wagon (planetmaker) -
16:47:36  <Brot6> ::redmine:: 2cc train set - Feature #154: cement as cargo for silo wagons @ (by planetmaker)
16:47:36  <Brot6> ::redmine:: 2cc train set - Feature #155: add a long version of the gondola wagon @ (by planetmaker)
16:56:17  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Bug #145: Redo (all) (cargo) wagons (planetmaker) -
16:56:48  <Brot6> ::redmine:: 2cc train set - Bug #145: Redo (all) (cargo) wagons @ (by planetmaker)
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17:08:12  <Ammler> by Brot :-(
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17:09:13  <Ammler> by Brot5 :-(
17:10:34  <planetmaker> oh....
17:10:41  <Ammler> hehe
17:10:44  * planetmaker waves a good bye
17:24:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Coopetition ladder - Development: RE: How to decide who wins @ (by Ammler)
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17:36:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 60: Feature #107: Added _base.4632 and _base.4638 @ (by foobar)
17:38:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #107: Sprites 4627:4674 (48) - Toyland: Buildings @ (by foobar)
17:56:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 177: Change: make 'make clean' more silent @ (by planetmaker)
18:04:01  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
18:04:08  <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
20:42:32  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 42M)
20:42:33  <Brot6> Are you mentally here at Pizza Hut??
21:02:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #148 (Closed): fill make bundle actually with zip and bzip2 files, too @ (by planetmaker)
21:35:29  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 42M)
21:35:29  <Brot6> On the other hand, life can be an endless parade of TRANSSEXUAL QUILTING BEES aboard a cruise ship to DISNEYWORLD if only we let it!!
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