Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 7th June 2009:
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01:33:22  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 51M)
01:33:22  <Brot6> UH-OH!! I think KEN is OVER-DUE on his R.V. PAYMENTS and HE'S having a NERVOUS BREAKDOWN too!! Ha ha.
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07:33:52  <andythenorth> morning
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07:50:26  <Ammler> that early?
07:54:16  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 36: Add: Aluminium Mill graphics @ (by andythenorth)
07:54:16  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 37: Add: Cement Plant graphics @ (by andythenorth)
07:54:45  <andythenorth_> what time is it where you are?
07:59:45  <planetmaker> moin
08:00:29  <Ammler> now, it is 10
08:00:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 38: Add: default blocks used to create tiles and buildi... @ (by andythenorth)
08:00:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 39: Add: default construction state graphics @ (by andythenorth)
08:02:51  <planetmaker> Ammler: did you look at the diff concerning pre-processing which I uploaded in the files section?
08:03:17  <planetmaker> I basically did the same as you posted earlier. And I checked with the manuals, too
08:03:32  <planetmaker> But somehow the replacement via #define SOME_ID replacement text
08:03:47  <planetmaker> doesn't really work for me and I'm obviously still doing something wrong...
08:05:14  <Ammler> I don't see the #define section there
08:05:40  <planetmaker> in defines.pnfo
08:05:57  <planetmaker> or did I miss to include that in the diff?
08:06:18  <Ammler> do you include that to the final pnfo?
08:06:41  <planetmaker> there's a new file called main.pnfo
08:06:51  <planetmaker> that includes everything
08:07:21  <planetmaker> but even if I skip that and just use #define in header.pnfo and only use cc in order to replace the defines, it doesn't do anything here
08:07:50  <planetmaker> e.g. #define GRF_TITLE My funky title
08:08:05  <planetmaker> -1 * 0 ... "GRF_TITLE" ...
08:08:14  <planetmaker> is not processed as I expect.
08:09:18  <planetmaker> in that case I get cc1.exe: warning:   is shorter than expected
08:09:41  <planetmaker> <stdin>:5:1: warning "GRF_TITLE" redefined
08:10:04  <planetmaker> <stdin>:1:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
08:10:11  <planetmaker> I don't quite understand why...
08:10:45  <planetmaker> oh, wait...
08:11:18  <planetmaker> let's see...
08:11:25  <planetmaker> if it does something without re-definition
08:11:53  <planetmaker> yes, it does.
08:11:54  <planetmaker> :D
08:12:05  <planetmaker> thanks for listening ;)
08:16:51  <andythenorth_> hey ho, sometimes hg is blazingly fast, sometimes it crawls.... :)
08:17:01  <andythenorth_> (pushing)
08:17:44  <andythenorth_> yay, it's done.  watched pot never boils...
08:19:10  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 40: Add: Engineering Yard graphics @ (by andythenorth)
08:19:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 41: Add: Farm Supply Depot graphics @ (by andythenorth)
08:19:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 42: Add: Incinerator graphics @ (by andythenorth)
08:19:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 43: Add: Machine Shop graphics @ (by andythenorth)
08:19:17  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 44: Add: Sand Pit graphics @ (by andythenorth)
08:25:02  <planetmaker> andythenorth_: checkout for nforenum native to mac
08:25:12  <planetmaker> thanks to Rubidium we have it now :)
08:27:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - renum-osx-r2117.tar.bz2 @ (by planetmaker)
08:31:29  <andythenorth_> planetmaker: remind me how to use ln to put renum in my bash path ;)
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08:32:11  <planetmaker> sudo path/to/renum /usr/local/bin/renum
08:32:18  <planetmaker> err..
08:32:27  <planetmaker> sudo ln path/to/renum /usr/local/bin/renum
08:32:29  <planetmaker> :)
08:32:55  <planetmaker> e.g. I did
08:33:17  <planetmaker> aeolusreloaded:~/ottd/grfdev/firs ingo$ sudo ln ./renum-osx-r2117/renum /usr/local/bin/renum
08:33:32  <andythenorth_> done and works thanks.
08:33:35  <planetmaker> nice
08:33:38  <Ammler> isn't ~/bin in your PATH ?
08:33:48  <planetmaker> no
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08:35:23  <andythenorth_> send Rubidium a pie!
08:35:24  <Ammler> he
08:35:50  <planetmaker> might be an idea, though I think /usr/local/bin is a good place for the binary. I considered moving it there entirely, but that would make updates a bigger hassle.
08:47:01  <Ammler> planetmaker: can we agree to use "make bundle" just for creating the bundle dir?
08:47:25  <Ammler> or which command is needed for it?
08:48:49  <andythenorth_> hmm the make file for HEQS doesn't appear to be using renum.  This differs from yesterday!  It's not a problem introduced by the renum mac binary...bad magic, or poor science?
08:54:15  <planetmaker> Ammler: in my interpretation 'make bundle' should make the dir and the tar/zip/bzip/whatever
08:54:45  <planetmaker> e.g. grf-to-go ;)
08:55:43  <Ammler> hmm, imo it should behave like openttd
08:55:45  <planetmaker> so far the dir cannot easily be created by itself as you would need to know the name of the dir
08:56:02  <Ammler> anyway, is it possible to make the bundle dir?
08:56:07  <planetmaker> Yes. And OpenTTD makes a thing which I can just go and be done
08:56:18  <planetmaker> Yes, it is.
08:56:35  <planetmaker> One could add another rule:
08:57:02  <planetmaker> dir: $(DIR_NAME)
08:57:06  <Ammler> don't like target bundle
08:57:08  <planetmaker> and then you can use 'make dir'
08:57:14  <planetmaker> I do like it. :)
08:57:22  <Ammler> it looks more like a target "release"
08:57:56  <planetmaker> nah. releases are those which have a tag :)
08:57:59  <planetmaker> it's implicit
08:58:29  <Ammler> well, it is just, I don't need 3 different pack formats
08:58:43  <planetmaker> 	bundle
08:58:45  <planetmaker> 38
08:58:46  <planetmaker> Bündel {n}
08:58:48  <planetmaker> 	bundle
08:58:49  <planetmaker> 13
08:58:51  <planetmaker> Paket {n} [zusammengeschnürt]
08:59:00  <planetmaker> you don't need them. But they may be useful
08:59:13  <Ammler> you mean bundles
08:59:17  <planetmaker> usually you will just need make install
08:59:36  <planetmaker> or just call make tar
08:59:41  <planetmaker> then you get only the tar
08:59:57  <Ammler> I need the openttd make bundle :-)
09:00:19  <Ammler> which I can symlink from openttd/data
09:00:22  <planetmaker> then commit that rule I proposed above
09:00:43  <planetmaker> you should just symlink the tars
09:00:44  <Ammler> can I trash the current bundle?
09:00:49  <planetmaker> please no
09:00:58  <planetmaker> or at least rename it to release
09:01:06  <planetmaker> but then do it in ALL projects
09:01:21  <planetmaker> heqs, 2cc, opengfx, firs
09:01:35  <Ammler> well, It would be needed for those we add to the nightly farm
09:01:47  <planetmaker> yes. But keep it consistant. All or nothing ;)
09:02:07  <planetmaker> I cannot maintain n makefiles where the same thing is called differently
09:02:40  <Ammler> you should make something like a Makefile.common :-)
09:02:56  <planetmaker> hm, an idea
09:03:04  <Ammler> or Makefile.generic
09:03:06  <planetmaker> though it's not needed
09:03:21  <planetmaker> Makefile.common is only there as different OS have different Makefiles
09:03:30  <planetmaker> at grfcodec (or was it renum)?
09:03:37  <Ammler> no idea,
09:03:41  <planetmaker> as we don't have that, it's fine to have it in one
09:03:47  <Ammler> did only see the name, not the purpose
09:03:47  <planetmaker> no need for a 3rd file
09:03:56  <planetmaker> yes, I told you the puropose :)
09:03:59  <planetmaker> *purpose :)
09:04:42  <Ammler> what is bad about openttd "make bundle" ?
09:05:04  <planetmaker> please, go ahead and rename every make bundle to make release
09:05:20  <planetmaker> and then add at the same time a rule
09:05:27  <planetmaker> bundle: $(DIR_NAME)
09:05:30  <planetmaker> and you have what you want.
09:05:44  <planetmaker> but! the dirname will depend on the release version. It has to.
09:06:00  <planetmaker> Don't change that
09:06:23  <planetmaker> e.g. the dirname will always be like firs-nightly-r13
09:06:30  <planetmaker> or firs-0.0.1
09:07:00  <Ammler> and you really think, someone will ever need to make all different pack formats at once?
09:07:07  <planetmaker> if you change that, you destroy OpenTTD's ability to find more than one version and it will pick a random one
09:07:15  <Ammler> if someone would need that, that would be us, :-)
09:07:25  <planetmaker> Ammler: yes. I make that makefile also for us.
09:07:36  <planetmaker> I'm lazy.
09:07:48  <planetmaker> And I won't remove a rule to make all those bundles
09:07:59  <planetmaker> name it like you want, but keep it.
09:08:10  <planetmaker> and name it alike in those 4 projects
09:08:22  <Ammler> hmm, nvm then.
09:08:41  <planetmaker> why do you want to get rid of that functionality? what is it what you need?
09:08:53  <planetmaker> you want a dir? Then introduce a rule for that.
09:08:59  <planetmaker> one more rule doesn't hurt
09:09:13  <planetmaker> but just don't remove existing rules.
09:09:19  <planetmaker> You may rename them, no problem
09:09:51  <Ammler> well, now the projects are at start, we were able to make such changes.
09:10:07  <Ammler> later, you are right, you shouldn't change a target anymore.
09:10:11  <planetmaker> but if you need a non-chaning directory, that will need a new rule and is something completely different.
09:10:23  <planetmaker> *sigh*. You can change target names as you like
09:10:50  <planetmaker> and a non-changing directory name is only usefull for developers. No one else can use it sensibly.
09:11:16  <Ammler> well, I use it all the time with openttd
09:11:25  <planetmaker> but then... if you want that for the server or yourself, you can just link the grf into the data dir
09:11:28  <planetmaker> and you're fine
09:11:58  <planetmaker> yes, me, too
09:12:50  <planetmaker> but then a link to the filename.grf in the data dir is the solution to go.
09:13:09  <Ammler> hmm
09:13:28  <Ammler> maybe
09:13:37  <planetmaker> or - as said - make a new rule which copies the current $(BUNDLE_FILES) also to $(SOME_CONSTANT_DIR)
09:14:03  <planetmaker> but in order to be usable, the current $(DIR_NAME) is absolutely essential
09:14:49  <planetmaker> I've no problem, if you rename 'bundle' to release and then call that new target 'bundle'
09:14:50  <Ammler> hehe, of course
09:16:07  <planetmaker> but just don't touch the sub-targets of the current 'bundle' or we won't be able to make grfs which are nicely distributable
09:16:22  <Ammler> do you like the nightly farm supports all those different pack formats?
09:16:22  <planetmaker> as we need these funky, unique dir names
09:16:38  <planetmaker> well, yes :) why?
09:16:56  <planetmaker> tar is big. having a zip or bzip doesn't hurt
09:17:00  <Ammler> I would like to have only one per release
09:17:17  <Ammler> but then keeping those longer...
09:17:21  <planetmaker> hm.
09:17:41  <planetmaker> we need the tar for bananas.
09:17:57  <Ammler> bananas needs another format anyway
09:17:58  <planetmaker> we might make another zip for distribution elsewhere
09:24:28  <planetmaker> well. I don't want to give up the tar and the current dir. We shouldn't do that.
09:25:13  <planetmaker> we might re-write the zip so that it doesn't zip the tar but the dir itself into one zip file.
09:25:15  <Ammler> why should we?
09:25:54  <planetmaker> because then people who get the zip, have when unzipping the doc dir readable.
09:26:18  <planetmaker> same for bz2.
09:26:35  <Ammler> no, tar in bz2 is fine
09:26:47  <planetmaker> I wouldn't want the files to just overwrite a previous install
09:27:09  <planetmaker> in any case. That'd be bad practice IMO
09:27:12  <Ammler> actually, I never saw bz2 archive without tar
09:27:20  <planetmaker> hehe :)
09:28:04  <Ammler> my "why should we?" was related to why give up dir...
09:28:06  <planetmaker> I don't like it, though. If I (b)unzip something it'd be nice to just have it done then. But, of course, one could use tar right away
09:28:28  <planetmaker> No, not give up the versioned dir name.
09:28:57  <Ammler> i never just unzip, I use tar x
09:29:44  <planetmaker> we must not make it intrinsically impossible to have different development builds next to eachother
09:29:46  <Ammler> but if make different formats
09:29:56  <Ammler> we should have the zip without tar, imo.
09:30:11  <planetmaker> well. go ahead. I tried and failed
09:30:29  <Ammler> you failed on?
09:30:39  <planetmaker> making zip w/o tar
09:30:57  <Ammler> grfpack has also no tar :-)
09:32:15  <Ammler> and I liked your idea of opengfx to make one tar with the grfs and the rest beside
09:32:33  <Ammler> does openttd support tar in tar?
09:32:56  <planetmaker> uhm...
09:33:26  <planetmaker> dunno
09:33:39  <planetmaker> I actually meant to change the zip only
09:34:55  <andythenorth_> going out now - bye!
09:35:10  <planetmaker> bye, andythenorth_
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09:40:05  <planetmaker> -       cat $(TAR_FILENAME) | $(ZIP) $(ZIP_FLAGS) > $(ZIP_FILENAME)
09:40:07  <planetmaker> +       $(ZIP) $(ZIP_FLAGS) $(ZIP_FILENAME) $(DIR_NAME)
09:40:09  <planetmaker> ^^ That change I meant for the zip, Ammler
09:40:40  <planetmaker> and $(ZIP) = zip not $(ZIP) = gzip
10:04:03  <Brot6> firs: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
10:39:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 45: Change: make (DIR_NAME) a bit more verbose and comme... @ (by planetmaker)
10:44:01  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 46: Fix: don't bail out on a missing 'sprites/nfo/.pnfo'... @ (by planetmaker)
10:44:02  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #159: sprites/nfo/.pnfo is required @ (by planetmaker)
11:02:55  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Feature #160: latest download @ (by Ammler)
11:10:06  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 11: Removed the old location files @ (by Ammler)
11:17:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop Development Zone - Revision 11: Removed the old location files @ (by Ammler)
11:17:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop Development Zone - Feature #160: latest download @ (by Ammler)
11:19:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #161: name of the boxcar / boxcab @ (by planetmaker)
11:22:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #145: Redo (all) (cargo) wagons @ (by planetmaker)
12:35:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Feature #160: latest download @ (by Ammler)
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14:04:03  <Brot6> firs: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
14:08:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12324: [IS] Codechange: Use CompanySharingSettingsEntry::IsComp... @ (by Hirundo)
14:19:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12325: [IS] Codechange: Deglobalize a needlessly global variable. @ (by Hirundo)
14:19:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12326: [IS] Codechange: Make the new widgets array of the shari... @ (by Hirundo)
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15:29:51  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 199: fixed unnamed bug, the short livestock had a alignment flaw when full @ (by DJNekkid)
15:47:37  <Ammler> Added the following hosts to /etc/hosts.deny:
15:47:39  <Ammler> (
15:56:55  <planetmaker> :P
15:57:02  <planetmaker> not me :)
15:57:18  <planetmaker> nor Osai. Progman?
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16:18:02  <Brot6> OpenGFX: nightly compile not needed. (r63)
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16:24:15  <andythenorth> hi
16:28:30  <andythenorth> planetmaker: have I missed some renum fun?
16:30:43  <planetmaker> yes.
16:30:51  <planetmaker> did you download the binary?
16:31:08  <andythenorth> yes
16:31:12  <planetmaker> does it work?
16:31:30  <andythenorth> let me see (been reading #openttd logs btw)
16:32:08  <planetmaker> If it does for you... I'll be glad, but surprised.
16:32:27  <planetmaker> the nforenum thread is also interesting :)
16:33:03  <andythenorth> doesn't work for me - same or similar assert as you
16:33:34  <planetmaker> ok :S
16:35:14  <planetmaker> a pity actually
16:36:31  <Ammler> andythenorth: possible to help this guy?
16:36:38  <Ammler>
16:36:40  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Much Questions for create 32pbb Graphics (at
16:36:55  <Ammler> he would like to help for opengfx
16:38:09  <andythenorth> ;) all my buildings are pixel art.  I have done some CGI animation for other things, but nothing for the 32pbb project.  Zephyris might be better, but he's busy!
16:38:34  <planetmaker> I *think* he showed up in #openttd two days ago or so.
16:39:10  <planetmaker> and Eddi calculated the angle he needed for him :)
16:39:34  <planetmaker> or do you have e-mail / pm contact, Ammler?
16:43:49  <Ammler> yes, he emaild me
16:45:01  <andythenorth> planetmaker: the make file for heqs doesn't *seem* to be calling renum.  makefile.local is setup to use renum.exe via wine.  that was working yesterday.  help ??
16:45:04  <andythenorth> :0
16:45:17  <andythenorth> :)
16:45:55  <planetmaker> hm... I'll have a look, andythenorth
16:46:04  <andythenorth> cool thanks
16:46:08  <planetmaker> Ammler, then he can be helped!
16:46:22  <Ammler> pm?
16:48:08  <planetmaker> Ammler, I should have said *should* be helped.
16:48:11  <planetmaker> what's his question?
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16:48:54  <planetmaker> andythenorth, works for me.
16:49:07  <planetmaker> did you modify anything in heqs?
16:49:18  <planetmaker> e.g. did you modify heqs.pnfo?
16:49:40  <andythenorth> no, just wanted to check renum was running.  is it conditional on something changing?
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16:50:17  <planetmaker> make won't do anything, if it doesn't find changes in the pnfo file
16:50:30  <planetmaker> you can do that by typing "touch sprites/heqs.pnfo
16:50:37  <planetmaker> without quotation mark
16:50:44  <planetmaker> it will pretend that the file is new
16:51:29  <andythenorth> yup, works as you described thanks
16:51:32  <planetmaker> basically it's a mechanism to save you time: if nothing changed, no need to wait :)
16:51:34  <planetmaker> ok :)
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16:52:19  <planetmaker> hm... the triple? quadruple? quintuple Hirundo___  ? quadruple
16:52:37  <Hirundo___> Never, ever get 'Ziggo' as your ISP :S
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16:55:06  <Hirundo> 'Ziggo sucks' has thousands of hits on google, not without reason...
16:55:23  <planetmaker> he...
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16:57:56  <andythenorth> so I have a heqs bug fix / minor update release to do.  (1) normally I just stick it in the forum thread.  (2) there's this pissy issue about changing filenames / grfid to work out.  What do you guys advise?
16:58:17  <planetmaker> hg tag 0.4d
16:58:43  <planetmaker> or does the grfid need changing?
16:58:49  <planetmaker> not for a minor fix, no?
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16:59:19  <planetmaker> oh, don't you publish it on bananas?
17:00:15  <Ammler> completly rubish, what belugas told yesterday ;-)
17:00:35  <Ammler> nobody changes the ID for version change.
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17:01:07  <Ammler> some even don't change it, if they aren't compatible anymore.
17:02:06  <planetmaker> the latter, of course, is wrong...
17:03:36  <planetmaker> not your statement, of course.
17:03:40  <planetmaker> But ISR did it wrong
17:04:54  <andythenorth> grfid shouldn't change then.  new version is 0.4c or 0.4d (only change is moving it to repo and using make, but I guess that's a significant change in build environment if not code?)
17:05:13  <andythenorth> I thought there was an issue with vehicles missing from buy menu in saved games.
17:05:33  <planetmaker> dunno. I haven't really tested it in between.
17:05:51  <andythenorth> ...which there is, but it seems to be a nightly problem, or some other unfixed bug in my code, not due to version bump.
17:05:51  <planetmaker> Making a release for the sake of the build system doesn't sound too reasonable for a newgrf, though :)
17:06:19  <andythenorth> well I'm kind of easy.  c or d.
17:06:33  <planetmaker> well, releases don't hurt.
17:06:50  <planetmaker> Let's do it, then you know how it works :)
17:07:02  <Ammler> :-(
17:07:03  <andythenorth> I'll do d.  Then I can differentiate between c which I already built and released on the forum
17:07:09  <planetmaker> Ammler, ?
17:07:22  <Ammler> my tag detector is broken :-)
17:07:28  <planetmaker> oh...
17:07:50  <Ammler> well, didn't do much today
17:07:50  <andythenorth> right, talk me through this shiny new way then :)
17:08:06  <planetmaker> 1) update changelog.txt :)
17:08:16  <planetmaker> and commit that.
17:08:24  <planetmaker> (does it have one already?)
17:08:41  <andythenorth> no
17:08:53  <Ammler> andythenorth: you change the GRFID?
17:08:58  <planetmaker> Ammler, no
17:08:59  <andythenorth> no
17:09:03  <Ammler> ok :-)
17:09:27  <planetmaker> andythenorth, maybe an idea to add changelog.txt?
17:09:58  <andythenorth> (looking at 2cc example)
17:10:18  <andythenorth> ok
17:10:45  <Ammler> well, if it isn't that big, you could include it to the readme
17:11:21  <andythenorth> probably better
17:11:28  <planetmaker> but well... it needs adding in Makefile.config, too: BUNDLE_FILES = $(GRF_FILENAME) docs/license.txt docs/changelog.txt
17:12:00  <planetmaker> btw. There's no readme either :)
17:12:47  <andythenorth> there is now ;)
17:13:08  <Ammler> min. is the GRF and a COPYING file for gpl, afaik
17:13:11  <planetmaker> ok, add it in the same line as I just posted in Makefile.config
17:13:36  <Ammler> but a readme is would be nice, if you have something to write :-)
17:15:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - Revision 20: Add: readme.txt @ (by andythenorth)
17:15:51  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - Revision 21: Feature: added readme.txt and HEQS manual to Makefile config @ (by andythenorth)
17:16:42  <andythenorth> I'll finish the contents of readme later...
17:17:04  <Ammler> what is the difference of readme and manual?
17:17:14  <planetmaker> andythenorth, the path to the pdf is missing
17:17:39  <planetmaker> it must also read docs/HEQS...
17:19:00  <andythenorth> (embarassed)
17:19:05  <andythenorth> fixed
17:20:26  <planetmaker> shit happens. :)
17:20:40  <andythenorth> Ammler: hmm good question.
17:21:31  <andythenorth> readme will contain changelog and point people to read everything else in the manual?
17:21:49  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - Revision 22: Fix: mistake with path to user manual pdf in makefile config @ (by andythenorth)
17:24:37  <andythenorth> what next?
17:24:47  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12327: [IS] Feature/Codechange: Sharing settings window is now ... @ (by Hirundo)
17:25:12  <planetmaker>
17:25:32  <andythenorth> nice
17:25:35  <planetmaker> ok, files are obviously all updated - or let's assume that :)
17:26:04  <andythenorth> ok
17:26:19  <planetmaker> now tag the repository by means of "hg tag 0.4d" (or whatever version takes your fancy)
17:27:46  <planetmaker> and, of course, push after that, again.
17:27:59  <planetmaker> for hg it's just another revision
17:29:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12328: (svn r16528) -Fix [FS#2959]: Draw PBS reservation as gro... @ (by frosch)
17:29:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12329: (svn r16529) -Fix [NoAI]: StationIDs from oilrigs were n... @ (by yexo)
17:29:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12330: (svn r16530) -Fix [FS#2964], (r16501): Deduct additional... @ (by alberth)
17:29:13  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12331: (svn r16532) -Fix [Squirrel]: Don't copy an object when ... @ (by yexo)
17:29:17  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12332: Merge from trunk @ (by Hirundo)
17:30:38  <planetmaker> Ammler, did Cryloud write more than just "I wanna help with OpenGFX"?
17:31:17  <andythenorth> advice on grf filename strategy?
17:32:21  <planetmaker> hm? don't you like heqs.grf?
17:32:40  <planetmaker> I would keep that name and stick with it through the same grfID
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17:33:06  <planetmaker> and if you use make bundle, you'll have an appropriately named tar and zip file.
17:33:23  <planetmaker> like heqs-0.4d.tar or
17:35:20  <planetmaker> andythenorth, if you want to change the naming scheme, that's IMO an issue for the makefile :)
17:37:46  <andythenorth> heqs.grf is fine - but how to help players who like to keep old grfs around?
17:38:12  <planetmaker> it unpacks in a separate sub-directory.
17:38:16  <planetmaker> so they will have
17:38:30  <planetmaker> ~/Documents/OpenTTD/data/heqs-0.4d/heqs.grf
17:38:34  <planetmaker> ~/Documents/OpenTTD/data/heqs-0.5/heqs.grf
17:38:36  <planetmaker> etc
17:38:52  <planetmaker> or rather they keep the differently named tars.
17:40:51  <Ammler> wenn ich Ehrlich bin nervt es mich schon wenn ich mich
17:40:52  <Ammler> per Email an jemanden wenden muss wenn ich helfen möchte,
17:40:54  <Ammler> das hält bestimmt auch einige Leute davon ab zu helfen da
17:40:56  <Ammler> diese sich nicht direkt per ICQ xfire oder sonstigen Messengern
17:40:57  <Ammler> mit jemandem in  Verbindung setzen können.
17:40:58  <Ammler> Ok jetzt zur Sache :
17:41:00  <Ammler> Ich möchte helfen bei 8bpp bzw. bei 32bpp Gebäuden für OpenTTD.
17:41:02  <Ammler> Dazu würde ich gerne per TS oder ICQ erklärt haben wie ich vorgehen muss,
17:41:03  <Ammler> wo und welche Standard-Texturen ich benutze oder Farben.
17:41:04  <Ammler> Vorraussetzung zum helfen ist obig genanntes (Starthilfe) und ich arbeite
17:41:06  <Ammler> ausschließlich mit Autodesk XSI (ehemalig Softimage) 3D-Software.
17:41:08  <Ammler> Hier ein paar kleine WIP Render aus unserer Crysis-MOD :
17:41:26  <Ammler>
17:41:28  <Ammler>
17:41:29  <Ammler>
17:41:31  <Ammler>
17:42:12  <planetmaker> I like the dish.
17:43:41  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - Revision 23: Change: updated readme.txt @ (by andythenorth)
17:43:41  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - Revision 24: Added tag 0.4c for changeset 4322647756ba @ (by andythenorth)
17:43:41  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12333: [IS] Codechange: Remove ShowCompanySharingSettings from ... @ (by Hirundo)
17:44:06  <planetmaker> andythenorth, in order to now make the correct version you need to do that (locally)
17:44:11  <planetmaker> hg up 0.4c
17:44:28  <planetmaker> and then at least make tar or make bundle
17:44:42  <planetmaker> it will give you the packed grf
17:44:53  <andythenorth> make bundle can't find the pdf and readme.txt - I'm looking into why
17:45:03  <planetmaker> ups?
17:45:16  <Ammler> planetmaker: you don't have dependecy set
17:45:17  <planetmaker> lemme check
17:45:29  <Ammler> andythenorth: make tar
17:45:34  <Ammler> and then make bundle
17:46:23  <andythenorth> k.  testing
17:46:33  <planetmaker> sure, Ammler ?
17:46:41  <Ammler> yes, well
17:46:43  <Ammler> not sure.
17:47:05  <Ammler> at least it in 2cc
17:47:16  <Ammler> but I thought, it is wanted
17:48:12  <andythenorth> end of results for make tar:
17:48:13  <andythenorth> Renaming heqs.grf to heqs.bak
17:48:13  <andythenorth> Replacing heqs.grf with
17:48:13  <andythenorth> Done!
17:48:14  <andythenorth> heqs.grf docs/license.txt docs/readme.txt docs/HEQS_User_Guide_v0.4.pdf
17:48:14  <andythenorth> cp: heqs-0.4c/docs/license.txt: No such file or directory
17:48:15  <andythenorth> cp: heqs-0.4c/docs/readme.txt: No such file or directory
17:48:15  <andythenorth> cp: heqs-0.4c/docs/HEQS_User_Guide_v0.4.pdf: No such file or directory
17:48:17  <andythenorth> make: [heqs-0.4c] Error 1 (ignored)
17:48:17  <andythenorth> # Create the release bundle with all files in one tar
17:48:19  <andythenorth> tar cf heqs-0.4c.tar heqs-0.4c
17:48:19  <andythenorth> Creating tar for publication
17:48:23  <planetmaker> yes, I see that
17:48:27  <planetmaker> have that, too
17:48:44  <planetmaker> :S
17:48:55  <andythenorth> path issue?
17:49:08  <planetmaker> somewhat. But my fault, not yours, I think
17:51:13  <planetmaker> not sure exactly where yet, though
17:53:14  <planetmaker> hm. I do have an idea.
17:53:17  <planetmaker> a missing line :(
17:53:35  <planetmaker> in the Makefile
17:53:46  <planetmaker> REPO_DIRS = $(dir $(BUNDLE_FILES))
17:53:58  <planetmaker> right after -include ${MAKEFILELOCAL}
17:55:03  <planetmaker> and my tortoiseHG is annoying.
17:55:10  <planetmaker> Randomly throws errors :(
17:57:55  <planetmaker> andythenorth: do you want to name this version 0.4c ?
17:58:21  <planetmaker> didn't you want to call this d? Or...?
17:58:22  <andythenorth> 0.4d
17:58:34  <planetmaker> because you tagged it as 0.4c
17:58:51  <andythenorth> (oops) 0.4c it is then
17:58:59  <planetmaker> shall I fix that and make it (with the makefile fix) as 0.4d?
17:59:10  <planetmaker> your call which :)
17:59:38  <andythenorth> yes please do the fix and make it as 0.4d
17:59:43  <planetmaker> ok
17:59:56  <andythenorth> (I have to fix a production webserver for a minute, or find someone who can)
18:00:19  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - Revision 25: Fix: the (REPO_DIRS) was not initilized, such that creating th... @ (by planetmaker)
18:04:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
18:04:10  <Brot6> is2: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
18:06:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - Revision 26: Fix: remove erronous tag for 0.4c with a broken build system @ (by planetmaker)
18:06:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - Revision 27: Added tag 0.4d for changeset c3f2019098db @ (by planetmaker)
18:09:32  <planetmaker> andythenorth: hg pull && hg up 0.4d && make bundle :)
18:10:42  <andythenorth> done
18:11:50  <planetmaker> you should now have a dir and some files like heqs-0.4d
18:12:57  <planetmaker> use the archive of your choice for the forums (or zip the directory) and upload the dir's contents to bananas.
18:13:38  <andythenorth> neat.
18:13:40  <planetmaker> we could upload one of the bundles also to the files section of this.
18:14:13  <planetmaker> actually I want to change the zip. So that it is a direct zip of the dir, not of the tar
18:14:25  <andythenorth> think I need to change the name of the grf as displayed in the newgrf settings window though?
18:14:31  <planetmaker> but that's minor and no real bug, but a usability enhancement :)
18:14:37  <planetmaker> no
18:14:44  <planetmaker> it's done for you by makefile :)
18:15:38  <planetmaker>
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18:16:55  <planetmaker> It will show as Heavy Equipment Set 0.4d
18:16:55  <andythenorth> but there's no problem with changing it in makefile.config?  I guess that would bump to version 0.4e for a tagged release :)
18:17:08  <planetmaker> hm?
18:17:23  <andythenorth> needs to be "HEQS (Preview) 0.4x"
18:17:37  <planetmaker> oh, we can still again remove the tag.
18:17:44  <planetmaker> I'll do it again.
18:17:51  <planetmaker> but why preview?
18:18:06  <planetmaker> I mean... it's a release, not a nightly.
18:18:10  <andythenorth> Do you prefer acronym or expanded for set names in newgrf window?
18:18:28  <planetmaker> I'm a bit indifferent.
18:18:37  <planetmaker> HEQS is a kind of trademark, though
18:18:39  <andythenorth> 'Preview' because it's not the full set, still missing lots of things.  Doesn't matter I guess.  Could remove it
18:18:55  <andythenorth> will remove preview
18:19:16  <planetmaker> GRF_NAME is what Makefile assumes to come in front of the version in the newgrf window
18:19:38  <andythenorth> yup found that.  Should I do anything with hg before making the changes to makefile.config
18:19:40  <planetmaker> in the newgrf window GRF_NAME VERSION will show
18:19:46  <planetmaker> hg up
18:19:53  <planetmaker> you're now at 0.4d
18:21:02  <andythenorth> ok change made.  commit and push?
18:21:13  <planetmaker> yup. I'll update the tag then.
18:21:19  <planetmaker> or you do that.
18:21:53  <planetmaker> we can still move 0.4d
18:22:57  <planetmaker> ah, I think I'll try it... I'm not yet 100% clear how to move the tag properly :)
18:23:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - Revision 28: Change: GRF_NAME = HEQS (Heavy Equipment Set) @ (by andythenorth)
18:24:56  <planetmaker> ok, tag moved
18:25:06  <planetmaker> hg tag -f 0.4d
18:25:14  <planetmaker> was the trick. Force the (same) tag :)
18:26:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - Revision 29: Added tag 0.4d for changeset fe3ff880ca5d @ (by planetmaker)
18:26:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 47: Feature: German and Dutch translation files @ (by foobar)
18:30:54  <andythenorth> ho hum.  no change to GRF_NAME VERSION in newgrf window.  "Heavy Equipment Set nightly-r19" :(
18:31:15  <andythenorth> makefile.config looks right in coop reop and locally
18:31:28  <andythenorth> probably a hg mistake / omission by me
18:31:50  <planetmaker> did you hg up 0.4d
18:32:22  <planetmaker> And: OpenTTD has some issues with finding the latest version, if there are more than one.
18:34:05  <andythenorth> so it does.  one of it's issues is crashing when I hit rescan files  :\
18:34:28  <planetmaker> yes, when you remove while newgrf window is open :)
18:34:43  <planetmaker> hm... you use unmodified trunk?
18:34:57  <planetmaker> then please tell that in #openttd. I used my clientpatches version
18:35:25  <andythenorth> do I get a kicking if I put that in #openttd ?? :)
18:35:31  <andythenorth> shouldn't I put it on flyspray?
18:36:12  <planetmaker> No, you don't. Well, if you still make the bug report. I will do, though.
18:36:46  <planetmaker> anyway: it shows, after I deleted the nightly.
18:37:49  <planetmaker> he, I like my new title screen :)
18:40:58  <andythenorth> what new grf name do you see for heqs?
18:41:15  <planetmaker> HEQS (Heavy Equipment Set) 0.4d
18:41:36  <planetmaker> if you see another: delete the older versions
18:41:50  <andythenorth> Oh balls. I get the one suffixed with r19.  I've deleted every heqs grf in the /data folder
18:41:59  <planetmaker> the filename of that tar is heqs-0.4d
18:42:01  <andythenorth> must be something to do with hg?
18:42:05  <planetmaker> yes, another version :)
18:42:08  <planetmaker> hg up 0.4d
18:42:17  <planetmaker> make bundle && make install
18:42:28  <andythenorth> done the above several times, same result :(
18:42:29  <planetmaker> and then delete the r19 in your OpenTTD data dir.
18:43:25  <planetmaker> and you get 19? not 29?
18:43:36  <andythenorth> opened the grf produced by make in Textwrangler...can see this string at the start of the file: Heavy Equipment Set nightly-r19
18:43:42  <planetmaker> then it's really an old file lurking around in your newgrf dir
18:44:07  <planetmaker> eh?
18:45:09  <andythenorth> makefile.config: GRF_NAME        = HEQS (Heavy Equipment Set)
18:45:14  <andythenorth> ???!!!!
18:46:29  <andythenorth> it's as though make is using an older version of .config?
18:49:18  <andythenorth> planetmaker: I reckon if I touch or delete heqs.nfo it might fix the issue :)
18:49:37  <planetmaker> uhm... maybe, andythenorth :)
18:49:42  <planetmaker> just make clean
18:49:46  <planetmaker> that helps, too
18:49:50  <planetmaker> and tiedies up
18:49:53  <planetmaker> *tidies up
18:50:01  <planetmaker> deletes all unnecessary stuff
18:50:06  <planetmaker> created by makefile
18:51:10  <andythenorth> yep issue fixed.  heqs.nfo had the grf name string set for the r19 nightly
18:52:12  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 48: Change: makefile config and added local makefile sample @ (by foobar)
18:52:12  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 49: Cleanup: removed old windows batchfile @ (by foobar)
18:54:16  <andythenorth> hey could be release time :)
18:54:44  <andythenorth> so does the devzone system push to bananas for me :)  I guess not?
18:55:18  <planetmaker> nope, that doesn't happen yet :)
18:56:03  <planetmaker> how protective are you of the HEQS login to bananas?
18:56:16  <andythenorth> not hugely
18:56:31  <andythenorth> not even sure I've set one up yet
18:56:48  <planetmaker>
18:56:54  <planetmaker> ^ I added you there manager
18:57:15  <planetmaker> <-- look at that page :)
18:57:17  <Ammler> you could create a generic "devzone" account
18:57:21  <planetmaker> Maybe you want to do an edit.
18:59:06  <planetmaker> only the 5 members of that project can read that page.
18:59:29  <planetmaker> so it's by no means a really publicly readable website
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19:01:12  <Osai> oioi
19:01:13  <Osai> :)
19:01:18  <Osai> so many coop channels
19:01:19  <planetmaker> hehe. Welcome to our new ... playground
19:01:25  <planetmaker> this is really busy :)
19:01:38  <andythenorth> planetmaker: edit done
19:01:57  <planetmaker> :) nice, andythenorth :)
19:02:13  <Osai> @op
19:02:18  <Osai> @makeop Osai
19:02:19  <Osai> :D
19:02:28  <Ammler> @makeop Osai
19:02:28  <Webster> Ammler: The operation succeeded.
19:02:30  <Osai> thx
19:02:38  <Ammler> sali :-)
19:02:53  <Osai> hi
19:03:38  <planetmaker> andythenorth: it's a bit around the terms of service for bananas, I think, but as long as there are not multiple authors allowed for a newgrf, we think it's an acceptable solution :)
19:03:45  <andythenorth> ok
19:03:46  <planetmaker> Just don't go around and tell everybody
19:04:07  <planetmaker> especially some devs might not like it too much :)
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19:09:36  <Ammler> well, at least yexo knows about.
19:10:20  <Ammler> Hirundo: do you want a bouncer?
19:10:57  <Ammler> maybe Osai gives you an account :-)
19:12:09  <planetmaker> :)
19:12:22  <planetmaker> +1
19:12:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12334: [IS] Codechange: Restructure UpdateAllSharingSettings to... @ (by Hirundo)
19:12:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12335: [IS] Fix: missing 'continue' statement. @ (by Hirundo)
19:13:01  <Hirundo> Free beer and cookies to the one who fixes my internet
19:13:25  <Ammler> bouncer would at least solve it from our sight :-)
19:13:25  <planetmaker> with a bouncer we wouldn't notice no more :P
19:13:47  <Ammler> and you wouldn't lose the backlog
19:14:00  <planetmaker> we could talk to you 24/7 :P
19:15:29  <andythenorth> incidentally any easy way to get something like  #openttd has (thegrebs logs)
19:15:32  <andythenorth> ?
19:15:48  <planetmaker> for this channel?
19:15:59  <Ammler> do you read them?
19:16:24  <Ammler> I have some fear about, as we might share sensitive data sometime.
19:16:40  <planetmaker> hm, yes.
19:16:44  <Ammler> if you want logs, Webster or Brot could make them
19:16:48  <planetmaker> he needs a bouncer, too :)
19:17:09  <planetmaker> pong, pong pong...
19:17:13  <Ammler> you could set the backlog length of a bouncer
19:17:22  <Ammler> i.e. 100 lines or so
19:17:30  * planetmaker is getting foolish again
19:17:57  <Ammler> since I have the bouncer, I didn't use the log anymore
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19:22:39  <avO> Starting OpenTTD r15591
19:22:39  <avO> Starting new game
19:22:42  <avO> Enabled chat bridge to IRC.
19:22:42  <avO> Initialized Server: Osais Server
19:22:42  <avO> Landscape: 2
19:22:43  <avO> Dimensions: 512x512
19:22:44  <avO> Starting year: 2010
19:22:49  <planetmaker> eh?
19:22:52  <Osai> :P
19:23:00  <Osai> !list openttd
19:23:00  <avO> Osai: companies, password, pause, players, rcon, revision, save, say and unpause
19:23:13  <planetmaker> the server channel is still .dev :P
19:23:34  <Osai> nah, its a secret test for you
19:23:35  <Osai> !pause
19:23:36  <avO> Osai: You don't have permission to issue this command.
19:23:39  <Osai> @voice
19:23:39  *** Webster sets mode: +v Osai
19:23:42  <Osai> !pause
19:23:42  <avO> Game paused
19:23:45  <Osai> !unpause
19:23:46  <avO> Game unpaused
19:23:49  <Osai> @deop
19:23:55  <Osai> @devoice
19:23:55  *** Webster sets mode: -v Osai
19:24:00  <Osai> !unpause
19:24:00  <avO> Osai: You don't have permission to issue this command.
19:24:11  <Osai> jfyi
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19:25:06  <andythenorth> hmm, logs.  do you guys keep transcripts?  So if I missed something you could send me the transcript?
19:31:26  <planetmaker> andythenorth: well... one of my clients nearly always runs (except my bouncer gets disconnected), but... I hardly notice when you miss something ;)
19:33:01  <Hirundo> what bouncer do you use?
19:33:29  <andythenorth> no but I could ask.  I am just thinking if a long discussion on something important happens, it's going to be annoying for you to answer my questions when you could just send the transcript??
19:35:02  <planetmaker> andythenorth: sure you can :) If I can help, I'm happy to help
19:35:14  <planetmaker> Hirundo: we have one... Osai and Ammler know it better :)
19:35:25  <Ammler> Hirundo: znc
19:35:52  <Ammler> shall I ask for one for you?
19:36:43  <planetmaker> I'd support both of you there :)
19:38:01  <Ammler> else I setup a devzone bouncer ;-)
19:38:15  <planetmaker> :)
19:38:40  <Ammler> then you join with nicely netmask ;-)
19:42:33  <Hirundo> If you could setup a bouncer or tell me how to I would be most grateful
20:01:12  <andythenorth> perhaps.  but there's a lot more to think about with trunk.  nfo is a pretty safe little sandpit
20:01:14  <Ammler> hehe
20:02:29  <andythenorth> I guess I'm wondering if anyone else cares about RV gameplay.  Or if it's just me George and Pikka :)
20:03:19  <Hirundo> It has been bugging me in the back of my mind, but it hasn't got that far since...
20:03:22  <planetmaker> andythenorth: the arguments for realistic accel for RV make perfect sense. And I'd like that in order to differeciate vehicles more
20:03:38  <planetmaker> but as usual... *someone*. And it's not an hour of work only :)
20:04:27  <Hirundo> It is made easier by the fact that CB 36 doesn't support any of the properties
20:04:58  <andythenorth> planetmaker: yes, I can see the complexity, I've read hertogjan's physics patch
20:04:59  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Physics patches (at
20:05:30  <Ammler> maybe petern has already a patch for ;-)
20:06:13  <andythenorth> it doesn't *have* to be exactly realistic.  I've made lots of pseudo-physics for 2D flash games.  Often simple models are close enough.
20:06:19  <andythenorth> sometimes the real maths is just easier though ;)
20:07:02  <planetmaker> hehe :)
20:07:55  <planetmaker> yep, it's not like F=m*a is difficult :). Just change m and F_max is given by the vehicle.
20:08:11  <planetmaker> such a is easy :)
20:09:33  <andythenorth> myself, I don't care if it's realistic.   What I'd like is a reason to choose one 35t capacity vehicle instead of another.  Like one is faster, but can't climb hills and vice versa.  Or high horsepower comes at high cost.  etc.
20:10:19  <planetmaker> yep. And that's IMO a worthwhile desire
20:10:36  <andythenorth> ...quite a few RV sets popping up
20:10:45  <planetmaker> hehe :)
20:10:58  <planetmaker> and heqs 2.0 would be more interesting :)
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20:11:22  <andythenorth> if roadtypes was available, heqs 3.0 would be even more interesting.
20:11:30  <planetmaker> :D
20:11:34  <andythenorth> wonder if a prize fund would work to attract 'someone'?
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20:12:03  <planetmaker> maybe. maybe not. The point is still: it has to be accepted by a dev
20:12:15  <andythenorth> that would be a condition of the prize :)
20:12:16  <planetmaker> so it would need official endorsement
20:12:37  <andythenorth> I don't think I can afford a good enough prize though :)
20:15:09  <andythenorth> maybe 'someone' would like the glory  :D
20:26:56  <planetmaker> Hirundo: when can the compile farm be triggered?
20:27:10  <Hirundo> When it's done :)
20:28:29  <planetmaker> well. I just wonder if I should ask now, or later :)
20:30:26  <planetmaker> I wonder as I have Truebrain around right now :)
20:31:49  <planetmaker> ^ Hirundo
20:33:00  <Ammler> well, you can tell him already :-)
20:33:15  <planetmaker> to do what?
20:33:29  <Ammler> that hirundo is preparing next release
20:33:30  <planetmaker> hey, mind, I want something of you somewhen?
20:34:02  <Ammler> :-)
20:38:21  <planetmaker> hm. phone. So I guess good night for today :)
20:38:29  * planetmaker waves
20:40:05  <Ammler> nightly
20:41:42  <andythenorth> bye
20:42:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12336: [IS] Prepare: IS2.0-beta3 @ (by Hirundo)
20:47:13  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12337: Added tag IS2.0-beta3 for changeset 56a047d6bab4 @ (by Hirundo)
20:48:23  <Ammler> [22:46] <petern> i did rv acceleration some when <-- what did I say :-)
20:58:00  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Feature #160 (Assigned): latest download @ (by foobar)
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21:42:20  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Feature #160: latest download @ (by Ammler)
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22:04:03  <Brot6> firs: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
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