Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 28th June 2009:
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01:33:28  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 61M)
01:33:28  <Brot6> I am covered with pure vegetable oil and I am writing a best seller!
03:27:01  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - renum_2124_macintel.tar.bz2 @ (by planetmaker)
03:28:29  <planetmaker> [05:25]	<Ammler>	[23:30:00] planetmaker: if you run make
03:28:31  <planetmaker> [05:25]	<Ammler>	[23:30:06] then make bundle
03:28:32  <planetmaker> [05:25]	<Ammler>	[23:30:11] why does it again compile?
03:28:34  <planetmaker> ^^ it doesn't find the nfo files... which it deleted previously, but which are a requirement.
03:53:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - grfcodec_2123_macintel_10.4.11.tar.bz2 @ (by planetmaker)
08:31:39  <planetmaker> Ammler: see also :)
10:48:40  <planetmaker> DJNekkid, Foobar, andythenorth, beardi, Frankr: check out for the latest binaries of nforenum and grfcodec
10:48:56  <planetmaker> ha! I can now compile on every OS :)
10:49:02  <planetmaker> (with quite a bit of effort...)
10:49:47  <planetmaker> and don't ask me why I cannot strip renum.exe of the debug symbols (that's why it's 2.3MB download)
10:51:05  <Ammler> doesn't matter :-)
10:51:44  <Ammler> planetmaker: what is the idea of keeping old versions?
10:51:47  <planetmaker> yes, I know. But it makes me wonder
10:51:56  <planetmaker> Ammler: it's no idea. Just happened.
10:52:24  <planetmaker> They can be deleted there, I think. Though I'd like especially see the win build some better test than I did.
10:52:39  <planetmaker> With a working renum on mac, it shows a speed difference between vm and native ;)
10:52:39  <Ammler> do you compile everything on the same maschine?
10:52:44  <planetmaker> linux not
10:52:53  <planetmaker> win and mac, yes
10:53:12  <planetmaker> and for mac I needed to compile gcc 4.5 as svn snapshot :O
10:53:30  <Ammler> hmm,
10:53:40  * Ammler wonders how to compile gcc
10:53:50  <Ammler> don't you need it for compiling?
10:54:10  <planetmaker> yes :)
10:54:18  <planetmaker> chicken egg problem :P
10:54:24  <planetmaker> you compile it with your old compiler
10:54:25  <Ammler> hehe
10:54:51  <planetmaker> and supposedly it compiles itself afterwards again.
10:55:02  <planetmaker> dunno how long it took. I slept while this computer worked :)
10:55:10  <planetmaker> several hours at least
10:56:17  <planetmaker> plus finding out how to install the required dependencies. Which took me a day...
10:56:33  <Ammler> wow :-o
10:57:12  <planetmaker> but that was - again - I think some peculiarities of this machine. Might have been easier on lin
10:57:54  <planetmaker> mac ports was the thing which finally worked.
11:00:15  <Ammler> well, now you don't need wine anymore for grfdev on mac?
11:00:24  <Ammler> or your vm?
11:00:54  <planetmaker> yep :)
11:01:12  <planetmaker> that alone was worth it :)
11:01:28  <Ammler> indeed
11:01:37  <planetmaker> and I now have a newer compiler. Which was basically the solution to making nforenum
11:01:52  <planetmaker> the gcc 4.0.1 which got shipped with os-x doesn't build it.
11:02:07  <Ammler> hmm, maybe rub/tbi could use your experience for the compile farm.
11:02:32  <planetmaker> well... I'm surely happy to help.
11:02:43  <planetmaker> but my impression is that their compile farm works quite well :)
11:03:06  <Ammler> well, they weren't able to compile a working mac nforenum, afaik.
11:03:28  <planetmaker> yes, that's true. That *might* be also a gcc issue. Not sure though.
11:03:37  <planetmaker> I mean... he didn't get those errors I got.
11:03:54  <planetmaker> once I used the newer compiler I didn't need to do anything special anymore.
11:04:06  <planetmaker> just make clean && make and be done
11:04:09  <Ammler> just mean, the easiest would be, they would add nforenum and grfcodec to the compile farm.
11:04:18  <planetmaker> (along, of course, with the proper local configuration settings)
11:04:27  <planetmaker> Yes, I would like that.
11:05:06  <planetmaker> well... it shouldn't be overly hard, I think
11:05:25  <planetmaker> but it needs testing with mac, surely :)
11:07:11  <planetmaker> but I'll first need to talk to DaleStan.
11:07:39  <planetmaker> Somehow the MinGW detection didn't work properly for grfcodec here...
11:08:03  <planetmaker> dunno whether it's my fault (wrong / not-default setup or so) or whether it's more general
11:09:08  <planetmaker> anyway. I'm off to the playground :). Building sand castles and stuff :)
11:09:11  <planetmaker> see you later
11:12:12  <Ammler> yeah, have fun.
11:12:23  <Ammler> "beim Sändeln"
13:11:32  <Ammler> [14:59] <Server> <Jonty> is 1.01 an update from 2.02 beta? D: <-- didn't we fear that?
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15:07:36  <andythenorth> afternoon
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16:18:03  <Brot6> OpenGFX: update from r79 to r80, starting nightly compile
16:18:33  <Brot6> OpenGFX: nightlies compile finished with 2 errors:
16:26:01  <Ammler> sali andythenorth
16:28:20  <andythenorth> evening
16:28:49  <Ammler> :-)
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18:50:15  <planetmaker> andythenorth: check out
18:50:26  <planetmaker> and please test whether native renum and grfcodec work for you :)
18:50:28  <planetmaker> and hi :)
18:52:33  <planetmaker> but I'd be really glad, if my binaries also worked for you :)
19:16:16  <andythenorth> planetmaker: trying r2124 for mac
19:17:16  <planetmaker> nice :)
19:19:30  <andythenorth> bug report...where do you want the output?  Here?
19:19:40  <planetmaker>
19:19:44  <planetmaker> if it's longer
19:19:54  <planetmaker> doesn't work? :(
19:20:06  <planetmaker> otherwise here is fine
19:20:12  <andythenorth>
19:20:40  <andythenorth> wouldn't have worked anyway, my path was bad, but lots of error messages first :0
19:21:42  <planetmaker> hm... what MacOS version and what processor do you have?
19:22:12  <andythenorth> planetmaker: leopard 10.5.7
19:22:21  <andythenorth> intel core 2 duo 2.53
19:22:27  <planetmaker> ok, ths
19:22:30  <andythenorth> np
19:22:30  <planetmaker> *thanks
19:22:49  <andythenorth> keep banging your head on it, you'll crack it ;)
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19:23:08  <planetmaker> hehe :)
19:23:27  <planetmaker> Last night my computer compiled the compiler which enabled me to compile this damn renum.
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19:40:34  <planetmaker> andythenorth: I could give you, though, instructions on how to create your own binary :)
19:41:10  <planetmaker> but it needs a bit of... installation; though mostly automatically
19:42:15  <andythenorth> planetmaker: I might have time, but now right now (drawing!)...currently the crossover solution is flawless and easy.
19:42:27  <planetmaker> hehe :)
19:42:44  <planetmaker> port install mpfr
19:42:47  <planetmaker> port install boost
19:43:09  <planetmaker> dunno whether port install gcc works
19:43:13  <planetmaker> I did that part manually
19:43:21  <Ammler> is port like zypper?
19:43:26  <planetmaker> then build a gcc
19:43:32  <planetmaker> Ammler: dunno. What is zypper?
19:43:48  <Ammler> you use suse but don't know zypper?
19:43:53  <planetmaker> yup
19:44:06  <Ammler> how do yiou install software there?
19:44:07  <planetmaker> do I need to?
19:44:09  <planetmaker> yast
19:44:12  <planetmaker> or by hand
19:44:32  <planetmaker> worked so ever since version 5.3 :P
19:44:37  <Ammler> hehe
19:44:44  <Ammler> well, zypper is since 10
19:45:05  <Ammler> some used smart before
19:46:18  <planetmaker> basically you tell mac ports to install <something> and it installs all dependencies, too by compiling the whole lot
19:46:27  <planetmaker> piece after piece
19:47:01  <Ammler> zypper in openttd
19:47:18  <planetmaker> opensuse
19:47:25  <Ammler> yes
19:47:28  <planetmaker> :P
19:47:44  <planetmaker> zypper in OpenTTD is somewhat bananas. :)
19:47:50  <Ammler> that might not be possible on mac ;-)
19:48:23  <planetmaker> hm?
19:52:09  <Ammler> well, how do you think, shall I install openttd stable?
19:52:29  <planetmaker> download and unpack :)
19:54:03  <Ammler> like a nightly?
19:54:09  <Ammler> geeky :P
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20:07:15  <planetmaker> I guess I am :P
20:10:49  <Ammler> no you can't, you use suse
20:15:46  <andythenorth> planetmaker: I'll keep the transcript of this nearby
20:21:34  <planetmaker> andythenorth: don't worry. I have one... though sloppy
20:28:03  <andythenorth> burr...circles
21:23:57  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 90: Add: survey_base.psd @ (by andythenorth)
21:23:57  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 92: Merge @ (by andythenorth)
21:23:57  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 91: Change: drawn huts for survey_base.psd @ (by andythenorth)
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22:04:02  <Brot6> firs: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
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