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01:33:38 <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 73M) 01:33:39 <Brot6> I'm having BEAUTIFUL THOUGHTS about the INSIPID WIVES of smug and wealthy CORPORATE LAWYERS ... 06:01:55 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:13:10 *** andythenorth__ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:15:56 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 07:37:10 *** andythenorth__ has quit IRC 07:38:45 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:46:32 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 08:14:51 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:51:07 *** yorick has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:52:51 <planetmaker> hm... Ammler is there a way I can ssh to the devzone via cronjob? 08:53:04 <Ammler> ? 08:53:05 <planetmaker> of course it asks me for credentials - which cronjob cannot supply 08:53:12 <planetmaker> e.g. login pw is needed 08:53:22 <planetmaker> I want to automatically upload the latest renum ;) 08:53:29 <planetmaker> in my crontab :) 08:53:32 <Ammler> make a ssh key without passphrase :P 08:53:38 <planetmaker> mäh 08:53:46 <planetmaker> but ok, is feasable, I guess 08:53:48 <Ammler> I have also different keys 08:53:57 <planetmaker> :) 08:54:12 <Ammler> keys without just need to be secure, e.g. never leave the host 08:54:19 <planetmaker> yes. 08:54:26 <planetmaker> I guess I can do that. 08:54:27 <Ammler> and not reachable by other users. 08:54:30 <planetmaker> even myself :) 08:54:42 <planetmaker> users cannot even browse my home dir :) 08:55:01 <planetmaker> drwx--x--x 153 ingo users 16384 2009-07-09 10:50 ingo 08:55:45 <Ammler> I assume, we have users on our hosts, which don't care that much with their keys as we do. 08:56:03 <planetmaker> That assumption is most probable correct :( 08:56:25 <planetmaker> they're just not aware that it's a signature... 08:56:34 <Ammler> I try to move those users at least from "full" access 08:56:44 <planetmaker> :) sensibly so :) 08:58:11 <Ammler> if the job you are speaking about limited to one command 08:58:25 <Ammler> you could use command var to limit 08:58:35 <Ammler> check example for the hg-repos users 08:58:43 <Ammler> but imo, not needed. 08:58:50 <yorick> hmm, putty allows me to specify the password with an argument 09:00:29 <Ammler> yorick: hehe, you felt spoken to, as I mentioned the bas ssh guys? 09:00:36 <Ammler> bad* 09:00:57 <Ammler> I didn't mean you. 09:01:21 <yorick> ammler, no, to pm about cronjob ;) 09:02:18 <Ammler> putty allows to bypass the passphase with argument? 09:02:22 <yorick> yes 09:02:34 <Ammler> then, what sense to use a passphrase? 09:03:10 <yorick> command line hg doesn't know to ask for a passphrase 09:03:48 <Ammler> pagent? 09:04:04 <yorick> ? 09:04:23 <Ammler> use that tool with passworded keys 09:04:35 <yorick> I use plink 09:04:39 <Ammler> yes 09:04:57 <Ammler> pagent is to store key passphrases 09:05:08 <Ammler> you only have to identify once 09:05:11 <Ammler> per session. 09:05:42 <Ammler> that is what I do here, too., btw. 09:05:54 <Ammler> first command on my console: ssh-add 09:06:11 <Ammler> then I am free to go the whole day. 09:07:29 <yorick> so I'd use pageant.exe keyfile.ppk -c plink? 09:08:11 <Ammler> no 09:08:15 <Ammler> just run that tool 09:08:20 <Ammler> add your private key 09:08:24 <Ammler> and use ssh 09:08:28 <Ammler> without -i 09:09:31 <Ammler> oh, I misspelled, sorry, don't use it anymore. 09:10:25 <planetmaker> but a cronjob doesn't allow any interactive things. 09:10:41 <planetmaker> and it needs full paths to all executables either... my makefile.local got bigger... 09:11:09 <Ammler> planetmaker: in your case, keys wihtout passphrase is the way to go. 09:11:14 <planetmaker> hehe. And once I automatically can upload things, I should start getting a win32 cross-compiler here :) 09:11:26 <planetmaker> Ammler, yes, I agree :) And thanks for pointing out. 09:11:39 <planetmaker> I guess I'll make a separate user here like you with your compile far. Way more secure. 09:12:07 <planetmaker> though the daily backup is made two hourse prior to calling this compile "farm" ;) 09:12:08 <Ammler> hmm, I am still fiddeling with chroot 09:12:15 <Ammler> but I might give up that 09:12:34 <planetmaker> I don't see a sense in that. It won't prevent in any case to completely delete the repository, however you tune it. 09:13:07 <Ammler> well, did you ever speak with TB about using his farm? 09:13:35 <Ammler> (before you spent too much effort in that, what you already did anyway :-) 09:17:12 <Ammler> planetmaker: btw. for the linux builds you could use the server directly 09:24:35 <planetmaker> yes, but I use it as the easy-to-start with thing :) 09:24:58 <planetmaker> Ammler, yes, I did. And he's actually quite for providing them via his CF 09:25:06 <Ammler> does the console have a tool for password generating? 09:25:11 <planetmaker> ssh-keygen 09:25:22 <planetmaker> oh, password or key? 09:25:29 <planetmaker> passwd 09:25:32 <yorick> Ammler: when I try pageant, it asks me for the pass, and then a terminal opens up and says "Illegal Command" 09:25:53 <Ammler> password 09:26:34 <planetmaker> :O passwd kills my xterm without any warning :( 09:26:43 <Ammler> :-) 09:26:47 <yorick> ~/putty/pageant ~/.ssh/ottdc.ppk -c ~/putty/plink -ssh ssh://ottdc@mz.openttd 09:26:50 <yorick> coop.org 09:26:53 <Ammler> oh sorry, not funny. 09:27:19 <Ammler> yorick: I run pageant without any command 09:27:36 <yorick> Ammler: then I need to load pageant first... 09:27:38 <Ammler> then you have the tool loaded in the systembar (left of clock) 09:28:08 <Ammler> then you add the key there and you should be able to use putty without -i 09:28:26 <yorick> Ammler: I'm too lazy for that 09:28:36 <Ammler> np 09:28:49 <Ammler> but then, I wouldn't use a key with passphrase :-) 09:28:58 <Ammler> but nvm. 09:32:28 <Ammler> yorick: I guess, pagent can be added to systemstart and so you would only need to add the passphrase on start. 09:32:48 <yorick> Ammler: then I will have to input my passphrase on start! 09:33:03 <Ammler> yes, that is the sense of the passphrase :-) 09:33:14 <yorick> I just want it to be asked once... 09:33:19 <yorick> when it's needed 09:33:29 <Ammler> if someone else can use your key, it isn't private anymore :P 09:34:38 <Ammler> I am sure, pageant supports also that but I am not familiar with it anymore, quite a long time I used it. 09:35:22 <yorick> Ammler: D:\msys\home\Yorick>putty\plink -ssh ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org 09:35:26 <yorick> Using username "ottdc". 09:35:28 <yorick> Illegal command '?' 09:36:22 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Setting_up_SSH_(Windows)#Setting-up-SSH-in-TortoiseHg 09:36:58 <yorick> oh please no tortoiseplinks 09:37:21 <Ammler> ? 09:37:42 <yorick> I don't have tortoisehg 09:37:43 <Ammler> just compare it with what you use, maybe -2? 09:37:49 <yorick> nope, doesn't work 09:37:54 <Ammler> mäh 09:38:23 <Ammler> and you aren't able to make link from that guide to your tools? 09:38:51 <yorick> yes, I have 09:39:00 <yorick> but not with pageant 09:39:38 <yorick> MEH 09:39:46 <yorick> with pageant running, pull does not require a password anymore 09:39:47 <Ammler> well, FooBar_ and djn use it afaik. 09:40:00 <Ammler> you might ask them about, if they are around. 09:40:12 <FooBar_> I don't use pageant... 09:40:30 <Ammler> it works on my winxp that way. 09:40:32 <FooBar_> But with it running pull doesn't require password 09:41:16 <Ammler> FooBar_: then you don't use passphrase? 09:41:18 <FooBar_> The trouble on Vista was that it didn't want to remember my key, so I had to re-add that every time 09:41:40 <FooBar_> Ammler: I use passphrase, I have to type that on every pull/push ;) 09:41:49 <Ammler> oh :-o 09:42:15 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 09:42:22 <FooBar_> Having admin rights and such I think it's a bad idea /not/ to have a passphrase :P 09:42:42 <Ammler> FooBar_: imo, passphrase is only important, if you share the host with others, or you have it on a usb stick like me. 09:43:24 <FooBar_> Well, I have a password on my Windows account, but that's circumvented easily... 09:43:42 <Ammler> still? 09:43:45 <yorick> MEH 09:43:51 <FooBar_> I did that a few times on other computers myself :) 09:44:23 <yorick> Ammler: did I manage to ban myself again? 09:45:10 <Ammler> oh, possible, ip? 09:45:23 <FooBar_> The easiest way to get access to the files on the computer is to put in a linux live cd and boot from that. And if you need admin rights to the windows install, it's not that hard to crack the actual password... 09:45:26 <Ammler> https://ammler.ch/hosts.deny 09:45:58 <Ammler> true 09:46:13 <Ammler> same on linux 09:46:21 <Ammler> if you don't crypt the hd 09:46:56 <Ammler> but then, "someone" need access to that pc. (physical) 09:47:27 <yorick> Ammler: that ban thing gets annoying ;) 09:47:28 <FooBar_> It's a laptop I carry around every week in the train... 09:47:52 <Ammler> yorick: so you are on it? 09:47:59 <yorick> yes 09:48:02 <Ammler> ip? 09:48:11 <FooBar_> So that's a bit of a security issue IMO :) 09:48:12 <yorick> ALL: 85.146.77.160 09:49:13 <Ammler> yorick: removed 09:49:24 <yorick> ok, thanks ;) 09:49:28 <FooBar_> don't write your password wrong more than once ;) 09:49:38 <yorick> FooBar_: it's not the password 09:49:42 <FooBar_> oh 09:49:50 <Ammler> there is no password for the host 09:49:52 <yorick> it's something that likes sending strange chars when logged in 09:49:55 <Ammler> he used wrong usernames 09:50:09 <FooBar_> ah, well, don't write the username wrong more than once :P 09:50:48 <FooBar_> or just don't write anything wrong, and you're golden :D 09:51:01 <Ammler> Jul 9 11:42:17 mozart sshd[23863]: Accepted publickey for ottdc from 85.146.77.160 port 59657 ssh2 09:51:10 <yorick> yes, it logged in 09:51:12 <Ammler> Jul 9 11:42:54 mozart sshd[25685]: Invalid user ssh from 85.146.77.160 09:51:15 <yorick> but it didn't pip it anymore 09:51:20 <yorick> pipe* 09:51:24 <Ammler> Jul 9 11:43:13 mozart denyhosts: Added the following hosts to /etc/hosts.deny - 85.146.77.160 (s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 09:51:27 * FooBar_ shuts up as he hasn't coded a single industry without putting some errors in first 09:52:01 <Ammler> Jul 9 11:43:17 mozart sshd[25963]: Accepted publickey for ottdc from 85.146.77.160 port 59661 ssh2 09:52:10 <Ammler> Jul 9 11:43:34 mozart sshd[26335]: refused connect from 85.146.77.160" target="_blank">85.146.77.160 (85.146.77.160" target="_blank">85.146.77.160) 09:53:26 <yorick> I got pageant to start automagically, but it doesn't pipe the subcommand to hg 09:53:45 <Ammler> there is no need for that 09:53:54 <Ammler> ssh does use that automatically, or putty 09:54:06 <Ammler> or do you use cygwin ssh? 09:54:15 <yorick> I use putty 09:54:31 <yorick> but I want pageant to start when I try to push 09:54:50 <Ammler> he? 09:54:56 <Ammler> that is too late, isn't? 09:55:26 <yorick> d:/msys/home/Yorick/putty/pageant d:/msys/home/Yorick/.ssh/ottdc.ppk -c d:/msys/home/Yorick/putty/plink -ssh -i d:/msys/home/Yorick/.ssh/ottdc.ppk <- I tried this 09:55:29 <yorick> it starts pageant 09:55:34 <Ammler> btw. the hosts will be deleted after 7 days automatically again. 09:55:52 <yorick> but it does not pipe the output of plink back 09:55:56 <yorick> and it keeps it open 09:55:59 <yorick> 7 days! 09:56:13 <yorick> 5 minutes would be enough to stop brute-forcing 09:56:29 <Ammler> well, I share those hosts with the world :-) 09:56:44 <Ammler> I receive every 10 mins, around 40 new ips 09:56:55 <Ammler> and I send every hour around 1 ip 09:57:16 <Ammler> well, not hour anymore, day maybe 09:57:29 <Ammler> he, funny is, I don't use it really 09:57:34 <Ammler> I just do it for fun :-) 09:57:42 <Ammler> need* 09:57:52 <Ammler> as login with pw isn't possible anyway. 10:00:21 <yorick> hmm, maybe I can do some start pageant key && plink -ssh -i key tricks 10:00:43 <Ammler> :-) 10:01:00 <yorick> but that doesn't wait for the passphrase 10:01:56 <yorick> I need some way to test without getting banned 10:03:00 <FooBar_> use a nonexistant host until you have the first step figured 10:04:36 <yorick> I can't try to login on nonexistant hosts 10:07:19 <FooBar_> no, but you can see if it asks for the key before continuing to connect... 10:09:18 <yorick> it does wait, but it also waits until pageant is closed again 10:09:27 <Ammler> you can use ps.openttdcoop.org 10:09:40 <yorick> it does not ban me? 10:12:30 <yorick> or I need to use tortoiseplink... 10:14:38 <Ammler> maybe the reason, they patched plink 10:16:33 <yorick> from hgwiki: NOTE: The following works for cases when the private keys are not Password phrase encrypted. The original plink.exe expects the password to be entered at stdin but stdin is redirected. To get passwords to work you need one of the TortoisePlink.exes from either http://www.tortoisecvs.org/download.shtml or http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads. 10:16:34 <Webster> Title: TortoiseCVS: Download (at www.tortoisecvs.org) 10:19:33 <yorick> ok, it works with tortoiseplink 10:19:38 <yorick> except for I have to enter it every time 10:20:17 <yorick> but it's probably better than having a decrypted key of your server in my memory/swap file 10:20:22 <yorick> or a password for that key somewhere 10:21:58 <Ammler> well, your current key can only commit, so it doesn't matter that much, imo. 10:22:19 <Ammler> FooBar_: you could make a 2nd key for hg commits without passphrase 10:22:37 <FooBar_> hmmz... 10:22:45 <FooBar_> that's a good idea... 10:22:48 <Ammler> like my test key. 10:22:50 <FooBar_> I might just do that :) 10:32:12 <yorick> ooh, tortoiseplink also supports pageant 10:32:47 <Ammler> tortoise for hg != tortoise for svn 10:32:58 <Ammler> I would like to use here too 10:33:02 <Ammler> it looks very nice 10:33:11 <yorick> tortoiseplink is part of tortoisecvs 10:33:36 <yorick> so all things with tortoise* have it 10:34:36 <FooBar_> Ammler: that second key is pure genious. Great thinking! :D 10:35:52 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 171: Feature: Textile Mill @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/171 (by foobar) 10:37:38 <Ammler> FooBar_: you are welcome :P 10:38:19 <Ammler> FooBar_: btw, I added last night r170 to the nightly builds 10:38:53 <Ammler> as andy announced it but there wasn't any, do you expect the server to create them automatically now? 10:39:05 <FooBar_> yes, I noticed yesterday. I just built one myself and was about to upload, then I noticed one there already :P 10:39:43 <FooBar_> I don't expect anything, but if the server could do it automatically then that would be nice :) 10:47:23 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 172: Fix (r171): Allow Textile Mill in tropic as well. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/172 (by foobar) 10:50:24 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #101: Sprites 4579:4579 (1) - Snow arctic church @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/101#change-676 (by Gen.Sniper) 10:54:45 <FooBar_> I'm starting to think renum wasn't broken in terms of -w 100... 10:55:17 <FooBar_> Rather my makefile.local was broken by only specifying -w 141,144... 10:55:59 <FooBar_> And then you can do whatever you want in makefile.config, but that doesn't change anything... 10:57:32 <Ammler> :-) 10:57:44 <Ammler> don't edit .config for individual things 10:57:51 <Ammler> didn't I mention that already? 10:58:24 <FooBar_> I edited that as it would be useful for automated builds to silence some warnings 10:58:32 * Ammler still dreams, the opengfx will sometime compile without errors :-) 10:58:49 <planetmaker> FooBar_, anyway, there's a new renum out which fixes that - or at least *something* 10:58:53 <FooBar_> And be useful to me as it would silence them on my side as well... 10:58:56 <Ammler> :-) 10:59:13 <FooBar_> I just tested: the old renum works fine with -w 100,144,141 as well... 10:59:28 <Ammler> sorry, if I laugth too much today :-P 11:00:01 <Ammler> -t 11:00:14 <FooBar_> I think an apology is in order... 11:00:23 <planetmaker> :) 11:00:31 <planetmaker> well... 11:00:44 <planetmaker> but since I updated to that renum it indeed doesn't show any errors anymore... 11:00:50 <Ammler> well, i don't think dalestan is the guy, who wouldn't let you know, if there wasn't something wrong with it. 11:01:24 <planetmaker> He fixed something... among others he updated the copyright notice, though which is 50% of the commit :P 11:02:34 <planetmaker> I wished renum and grfcodec makefiles would have natively a target 'install' 11:02:50 <planetmaker> and have at least remotely similar makefiles. But they don't at all. 11:04:06 <FooBar_> they have similar compile readmes... the renum one states that grfcodec doesn't need boost... 11:06:33 <Ammler> :-o 11:06:39 <Ammler> my openttd doesn't start anymore 11:06:46 <Ammler> seg faults :-) 11:06:57 <Ammler> might be a strange update 11:08:09 <Ammler> or opengfx? 11:08:52 <planetmaker> I added a key for planetmaker_cf to ottdc full access 11:09:36 <Ammler> is it to upload bundles? 11:09:42 <planetmaker> yes 11:09:50 <planetmaker> and fetch repos 11:09:56 <Ammler> openttd@ammler.ch is the main user there :-) 11:10:02 <planetmaker> obviously it has to do that, too :) 11:10:16 <planetmaker> ottdc can do that, too, can't it? 11:10:20 <Ammler> ottdc has just a symlink 11:10:42 <Ammler> yes, I gave ottdc +w 11:10:44 <planetmaker> well... ok But it's the same key file :) 11:10:48 <planetmaker> ah, ok 11:10:56 <planetmaker> should I use openttd then? 11:11:03 <Ammler> I don't care 11:11:17 <planetmaker> my usual login to your server is ottdc 11:11:51 <Ammler> the openttd compile farm has openttd 11:11:58 <planetmaker> :) ah 11:12:06 <Ammler> I create a user hg for the repos 11:12:08 <planetmaker> ok, then I shall use that for my 'compile farm', too 11:12:21 <Ammler> we will have a user compile for compiling nightlies and releases 11:12:48 <Ammler> and then, maybe ottdc can again be used for what it was thought, playing openttd games :-) 11:13:07 <FooBar_> let me know if I need to change something on my side... ;) 11:13:14 <Ammler> not yet 11:13:29 <Ammler> it will be announced with the nice news tool from redmine. 11:13:52 <FooBar_> ok, then I'll check that as soon as pull fails :P 11:14:01 <Ammler> I just work something for half an hour on that. 11:14:10 <Ammler> so it will need time :-) 11:14:27 <planetmaker> :) 11:15:04 <Ammler> user compile is done and ottdc has sudo right to it 11:15:39 <Ammler> so I create a folder per project, we will make nightlies 11:15:59 <Ammler> add +w for compile and our pseudo chroot is done? 11:18:05 <planetmaker> +w for compile is not save. 11:18:16 <planetmaker> it allows deletion of the folder 11:18:20 <planetmaker> and the files therein 11:18:27 <planetmaker> compile shouldn't have write on the repos. 11:20:32 <Ammler> no 11:20:55 <planetmaker> ? 11:20:57 <Ammler> I create new empty folders for the project we do make 11:21:07 <Ammler> and there compile has +w 11:21:23 <planetmaker> ok. But why doesn't do compile that in its own home dir? 11:21:44 <planetmaker> there's no need to grant it any write access anywhere except its home dir and the web dirs. 11:21:53 *** Beardie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:22:03 <Ammler> no access for compile to the web 11:22:22 <planetmaker> ok, then ottdc does that... 11:22:32 <planetmaker> But compile doesn't need write access anywhere any case. 11:22:43 <planetmaker> as long as ottdc can read in compile's dir. 11:23:23 <Ammler> ottdc run sudo -ucompile hg clone . && sudo -ucompile make bundle_zip 11:23:40 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 285: Sort contributor names alphabetically @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/285 (by Yorick@Yorick-Laptop) 11:26:06 <yorick> meh, acidenally got wrong name :) 11:26:52 <Ammler> you should define your username in hgrc 11:27:07 <Ammler> or in mercurial.ini 11:27:50 <yorick> Ammler: it got removed when changing to tortoiseplink 11:28:57 <Ammler> redmine can map the users 11:29:08 <Ammler> so at least there, it doesn't matter 11:34:29 <planetmaker> hm... my boost wasn't properly installed... 11:34:43 <planetmaker> luckily I got it fixed :) 11:35:40 <Ammler> he, isn't it nice 11:35:54 <Ammler> opengfx made my openttd segfaults 11:35:57 <Ammler> at start 11:35:58 <planetmaker> :O 11:36:01 <planetmaker> how that? 11:36:17 <Ammler> my commit yesterday, I assume 11:36:38 <planetmaker> well... one would have to assume - but how so? 11:38:12 *** planetmaker has left #openttdcoop.devzone 11:38:17 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:39:02 <Ammler> hmm, 14 download, noone complains about 11:39:18 <planetmaker> hm... 11:41:03 <Ammler> it seg faults with r94 too 11:41:19 <planetmaker> strange. 11:41:26 <Ammler> so I assume it is something with codec/renum 11:41:39 <Ammler> checking local settings 11:41:40 <planetmaker> I could swear I used it. But I'm not 100% sure I used always make install 11:42:48 <Ammler> md5sum: ogfxe_extra.grf: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden 11:42:54 <planetmaker> it must be your openttd 11:43:04 <planetmaker> it works here. 11:43:25 <planetmaker> (on suse, r95) 11:43:33 <planetmaker> trunk 11:43:37 <planetmaker> r16692 11:45:19 <Ammler> no, it is my opengfx 11:45:29 <Ammler> remove one grf 11:45:37 <Ammler> and try to start openttd 11:45:39 <FooBar_> ogfx r94 works fine here 11:45:49 <Ammler> FooBar_: yes, it is my local issue 11:45:55 <Ammler> r95 will work too 11:46:12 <planetmaker> :) 11:46:17 <FooBar_> possibly, I haven't upgraded yet :P 11:47:56 <Ammler> imho, i coded the vehilces perfect now :P 11:48:10 <Ammler> it took quite some tries ;-) 11:48:58 <Ammler> now, I know how, and there is nothing left to code :-( 11:49:48 <Ammler> well, I will now check the 2cc set with my new experience ;-) 11:49:49 <planetmaker> Ammler, there are still missing toyland trucks :P 11:50:04 <planetmaker> (no, I want to finish it ;) ) 11:50:27 <planetmaker> though I don't mind, if you continued. I'm not really possessive as long as it helps OpenGFX 11:50:39 <planetmaker> I really, really want to see a version with 100% of the sprites replaced. 11:52:20 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 173: Feature: Furniture Factory @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/173 (by foobar) 11:52:50 <FooBar_> who doesn't? 11:53:04 <Ammler> doesn't? 11:53:18 <Ammler> ah 11:53:20 <FooBar_> who doesn't want to see a version with 100% of the sprites replaced? 11:53:22 <Ammler> :-P 11:53:24 <FooBar_> yes, that ::P 11:53:37 <Ammler> your are too slow :P 11:53:49 <Ammler> my brain was faster then your explaination ;-) 11:54:07 <FooBar_> :) 11:55:22 <Ammler> the vehicels from opengfx are awesome now 11:56:13 <Ammler> the rest needs time to get familiar 11:57:03 <Ammler> most people (also me) wasn't really excited about opengfx the first look. 12:02:44 <Ammler> btw. is photoshop able to open xcf (GIMP)? 12:04:25 <FooBar_> no, it can't 12:04:45 <FooBar_> at least not the version I have, maybe CS4 can... 12:05:15 <Ammler> hmm, then I shouldn't commit them that way, quite useless :-) 12:05:28 <FooBar_> to me, yes :P 12:05:47 <Ammler> if I save them as png, it should keep the layers 12:06:10 <Ammler> btw. no issue here to load psd. 12:07:53 <Ammler> (as you would care ;-) 12:09:01 <FooBar_> I suppose you can't save to psd? 12:09:57 <FooBar_> never heard of a layered png though... 12:16:07 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 96: Fix r95: sprite files should have dimensions with factor 4. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/96 (by Ammler) 12:17:41 <Ammler> FooBar_: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/96/entry/sprites/source/monolev.psd 12:18:48 <Ammler> FooBar_: ignore the link, please 12:18:58 <FooBar_> that opens fine here, with guides and everything. No layers though, but that's not surprisingly as it's an indexed file 12:19:01 <FooBar_> too late ;) 12:19:57 <Ammler> you mean, if I keep it rgb, it would have layers? 12:26:33 <FooBar_> yes 12:26:52 <FooBar_> If you used layers that is 12:32:51 *** yorick_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:32:59 *** yorick is now known as Guest598 12:32:59 *** yorick_ is now known as yorick 12:33:23 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:36:25 <Ammler> it has layers, 1 per sprtieset from BA 12:36:50 *** Guest598 has quit IRC 12:51:51 <yorick> any sed expert? 12:52:41 <Ammler> yorick: depense on the question 12:53:04 <yorick> I want to convert http://pastebin.com/d69055561 12:53:48 <yorick> into somthing like http://pastebin.com/dfb3d447 12:54:06 <yorick> with different coordinates, ofcourse ;) 12:56:08 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 174: Change: Remove origin of renum warnings 100 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/174 (by foobar) 12:56:11 <Ammler> sed -n -e "s|old|new|gp" 12:57:30 <Ammler> but I don't see advantage of replacing it to something equal complicated? 12:57:46 <yorick> Ammler: it's smaller 13:00:00 <Ammler> just don't make it too complcated, so the other coders don't know anymore, how it works 13:00:18 <yorick> well beardie likes this way 13:00:45 <Beardie> what? 13:01:00 <yorick> with the spr() 13:01:12 <Beardie> o that 13:01:15 <Beardie> i like it 13:01:22 <Beardie> it makes life really easy 13:01:38 <Ammler> wow, life? 13:01:50 <Ammler> :-) 13:02:03 <Beardie> lol 13:02:26 <FooBar_> I'm unsure... copy/paste/search/replace is not much less easy... 13:02:44 <FooBar_> what text editor do you use? 13:03:05 <FooBar_> I started to appreciate notepad++ a lot 13:03:10 <yorick> FooBar_: I want the coordinates right 13:03:21 <yorick> notepad++ can't regex find newlines 13:03:56 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 13:04:04 <Beardie> i just notepad 13:04:10 <Beardie> the good old one lol 13:04:26 <FooBar_> don't know, I never needed to use a newline in a search/replace 13:05:38 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:25:38 <planetmaker> yorick, it's possible :P 13:25:45 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 13:26:11 <yorick> planetmaker, ok, do you know how :P 13:26:28 <planetmaker> yorick, no. Unfortunately not. 13:26:37 <yorick> :( 13:26:43 <planetmaker> Just my feeling from reading the bash, sed and awk manuals: it's feasable. 13:27:24 <planetmaker> I'm sure I could do it faster by hand than finding a replacement script. 13:27:41 <planetmaker> or rather: writing 13:28:11 <yorick> planetmaker: it's not just one file 13:28:39 <yorick> it's more than 20 times that 13:29:34 <planetmaker> hm 13:30:50 <yorick> planetmaker: 420, grep tells me 13:31:04 <yorick> 420 groups of 8 sprites :) 13:33:07 <yorick> and I still need to replace 150 of them 13:33:28 <Ammler> yorick: did you see my script? 13:33:34 <yorick> ammler: no? 13:33:37 <Ammler> my line, I mean 13:33:45 <Ammler> [14:56] <Ammler> sed -n -e "s|old|new|gp" 13:33:55 <yorick> Ammler: it's a little more complicated 13:34:13 <planetmaker> yorick, not much 13:34:27 <yorick> I want it to select groups of 8 sprites, put the spritename on the top and an undef on the bottom 13:34:35 <yorick> and replace all spritenames with spr 13:34:40 <planetmaker> you just need to obtain the names somehow. 13:35:05 <Ammler> oh 13:35:07 <Ammler> hmm 13:35:09 <Ammler> well 13:35:11 <Ammler> :-) 13:35:53 <planetmaker> yorick, make a list of different sprites. 13:36:16 <yorick> like how? 13:36:19 <planetmaker> sed for those and add your define line prior to the first occurance and your undefine after the 8th 13:36:25 <planetmaker> yorick, yes. 13:36:33 <planetmaker> see the makefiles of e.g. firs 13:36:36 <Ammler> I don't like your approach 13:36:38 <planetmaker> the list of pcx 13:36:57 <Ammler> what should it help to define the var right before usage? 13:37:00 <yorick> planetmaker: they occur multiple times 13:37:11 <planetmaker> ok. bad :) 13:46:18 <yorick> Ammler: can you compile was on linux? 13:46:27 <yorick> we might want nightlies :) 13:47:07 <Ammler> yorick: can you on mingw? 13:47:13 <yorick> I can 13:47:18 <Ammler> then I try 13:47:40 <Ammler> as soon as I have the pseudo chroot done 13:47:50 <Ammler> someone this weekend 13:47:52 <yorick> k 13:48:04 <Ammler> maybe tonight but not sure :-) 13:48:05 <yorick> any special commands needed for nightly builds? 13:48:14 <Ammler> bundle_zip 13:48:42 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:48:45 <Ammler> should make the same as the other makefiles like firs 13:49:00 <Ammler> a directory and there the grf with a readme 13:49:07 <Ammler> or whatever 13:49:20 <Ammler> and then zip that 13:49:22 <yorick> k 13:49:29 <yorick> what name for the zip> 13:49:44 <Ammler> and zip should be configurable 13:50:01 <Ammler> I use 7zip on the server 13:50:07 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 13:50:52 <Ammler> I hoped, pm does document his makefile, let me look 13:50:56 <planetmaker> yorick, preferrably the archive should give the newgrf name and the revision 13:51:07 <yorick> ok 13:51:07 <planetmaker> hm... I guess not too much so far :) 13:51:18 <planetmaker> best documented is the special makefile project, though 13:51:28 <planetmaker> though, I think the others have it now, too. 13:51:29 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository 13:51:41 <planetmaker> I just copy&pasted from there to others and commited the changes :P 13:51:43 * yorick gets a stroopwafel 13:51:49 <planetmaker> :) 13:51:59 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/entry/docs/readme.txt#L70 13:52:04 <planetmaker> stroopwafels are here available for about 1...2 years only 13:52:38 <Ammler> what's that? 13:52:48 <planetmaker> Ammler, that part of the readme is not transfered to other projects (yet) 13:53:02 <Ammler> well, I care about the target 13:53:03 <planetmaker> Ammler, two cookies with sirup between 13:53:16 <Ammler> hmm 13:53:26 <Ammler> sirup? 13:53:33 <planetmaker> Sirup 13:53:34 <Ammler> isn't that liquid? 13:53:39 <planetmaker> well... a bit. 13:53:47 <planetmaker> very, very sticky 13:53:52 <planetmaker> Like Gelee 13:53:53 <Ammler> so it is more like confiture? 13:54:00 <yorick> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroopwafel 13:54:01 <Webster> Title: Stroopwafel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 13:54:02 <planetmaker> well... it's sirup :) 13:54:22 <Ammler> ah, we have them too 13:54:28 <Ammler> dunno, how we call it 13:57:52 <yorick> it's called stroopwafel in most languages 13:58:38 <Ammler> might be 14:00:53 <Beardie> a what? 14:01:00 <Beardie> Syrup Waffles 14:01:37 <Beardie> never heard of the word, i don;t think we use it here 14:02:28 <Ammler> the word or the cookie? 14:02:37 <Beardie> its a cookie? 14:02:42 <Beardie> its a waffle 14:02:49 <Beardie> the word 14:02:49 <yorick> it's a cookie 14:03:01 <yorick> or a miniature waffle 14:03:06 <yorick> but mostly a cookie' 14:03:09 <Beardie> well the english translation is Waffle 14:03:15 <yorick> yyes 14:03:24 <yorick> the name of the cookie is syrupwaffle 14:04:05 <Brot6> firs: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/firs/firs/ initiated. 14:04:09 <yorick> the english wikipedia has the wrong translation 14:04:16 <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/opengfx/ initiated. 14:05:05 <yorick> it's actually a cook, but english doesn't have that word :D 14:05:43 <FooBar_> at least not in that context :P 14:10:08 <Beardie> well 14:10:26 <Beardie> Stroopwafel 14:10:32 <Beardie> whats wafel? 14:10:38 <yorick> it's waffle 14:10:42 <Beardie> yes 14:10:45 <Beardie> and Stroop 14:10:50 <yorick> syrup 14:11:10 <Beardie> so for a computer it would think Syrup Waffle 14:11:11 <yorick> but the word as a combination means 2 waffles with syrup as a cookie 14:11:45 <yorick> ... 14:12:14 <yorick> discussions about if the stroopwafel is a waffle or a cookie 14:13:04 <yorick> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brussels_waffle.jpg <-- THIS is a waffle 14:13:05 <Webster> Title: File:Brussels waffle.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 14:13:11 <FooBar_> we might as well discuss if peanutbutter is butter or cheese... :) 14:13:47 <yorick> FooBar_: it's butter, but couldn't be called that way in dutchlands because boter is reserved for things that are actually made out of milk 14:14:48 <FooBar_> I know that, but I find it silly nonetheless ;) 14:14:57 * yorick should probably not be chewing on glass-fibers 14:47:16 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:49:34 <Ammler> planetmaker: you could remove link to dev server to shorten your sig 14:49:42 <Ammler> as that is outdated anyway 14:49:46 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 14:56:35 <yorick> Ammler: is it ok if I use the rss2png signature? 14:56:49 <Beardie> big day tomorrow Ammler and yorick 14:57:04 <Ammler> if you don't complain about the "y" ;-) 14:57:17 <yorick> Beardie: what's tomorrow? 14:57:22 <Beardie> when 10th july revision finally comes out of the server, the commit i did ion the future 14:57:24 <Ammler> Beardie: release day? 14:57:28 <yorick> Ammler: can I complain about the "p"? 14:57:36 <Beardie> no the lost in time commit 14:57:37 <Beardie> lol 14:57:49 <FooBar_> :P 14:58:08 <Ammler> Beardie: that is fixed on our devzone, didn't you realize? 14:58:15 <Beardie> no lol 14:58:25 <Beardie> still skpye is broken 14:58:42 <Beardie> skype still showing me message from the 10th july 14:58:55 <Beardie> o and thanks for fixing the revision lol 14:59:20 <Ammler> yorick: are you familiar with php and those images libs? 14:59:27 <Ammler> you can fix it, if you want 14:59:56 <Ammler> or you give me a better script, I just don't put more effort from me in it. 15:01:14 <Beardie> well i ahve to go bye 15:01:22 <yorick> bye 15:01:26 <Beardie> see ya 15:01:29 *** Beardie has quit IRC 15:01:52 <yorick> it looks like a danetmaker :) 15:02:44 <Ammler> well, I could make it another parameter 15:03:18 <yorick> please make height another parameter 15:04:34 <yorick> ammler: it uses GD? 15:05:43 <Ammler> google for rss2png 15:06:55 <yorick> oh, gonewacko 15:07:07 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #102 (Closed): Sprites 2981-3016 (36) - monolev engines @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/102#change-677 (by Ammler) 15:07:33 <Ammler> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/rss2png/rss2png_0_2.tar.gz 15:12:03 <yorick> you use rss 2.0? 15:13:43 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:14:16 <Ammler> yorick: I would like to use atom 15:14:30 <Ammler> but that script can't 15:14:32 <yorick> you want me to write an atom parser? 15:15:23 <Ammler> No, but I might use it, if you make one ;-) 15:16:05 <Ammler> then, we could use feeds from redmine 15:16:22 <Ammler> well 15:17:00 <yorick> I guess I should make a new script :D 15:17:32 <planetmaker> Ammler, why is the link to the dev server outdated? We still have one, don't we? 15:17:33 <yorick> do you have any atom feeds to test with? 15:19:21 <yorick> oh there 15:24:17 <Ammler> planetmaker: the link isn't but the content of that wikipage is. 15:24:47 <Ammler> yorick: on almost every redmine page 15:27:40 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 97: Feature #102: Update the credits list, marked monolev done. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/97 (by Ammler) 15:28:15 <Ammler> FooBar_: try that psd: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/97/entry/sprites/source/monolev.psd 15:28:45 <FooBar_> that one has layers :) 15:29:21 <Ammler> psd file is very small compared with gimp xcf 15:30:16 <FooBar_> xcf is uncompressed I believe 15:30:38 <FooBar_> I've seen several .xcf.bz2 files pass by... 15:33:55 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/graph?graph=commits_per_author 15:33:58 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 98: Cleanup: use psd instead of xcf as source file with GIMP too. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/98 (by Ammler) 15:34:01 <Ammler> hehe :-) 15:36:34 <Ammler> well, it was a test, but keeping source of file which hasn't more info then the pcx doesn't make much sense ;-) 15:46:09 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 99: Cleanup: Why keep outdated files? @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/99 (by Ammler) 15:47:01 <Ammler> we need strip on redmine 15:47:15 <Ammler> and rollback 15:49:12 <FooBar_> glad I didn't pull :) 15:50:08 <Ammler> hehe 15:50:22 <Ammler> well, I made rollback local and on the server 15:50:35 <Ammler> but redmine of course has already the wrong changeset 15:50:43 <Ammler> but doesn't matter in that case. 15:51:39 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 175: Feature: Aluminium Plant @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/175 (by foobar) 15:52:14 <Ammler> planetmaker: there was a reason for the counter alphabetic order of the credits 15:53:35 <Ammler> how to update the readme? 15:53:48 <FooBar_> http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenGFX_Readme 15:53:50 <Ammler> wiki or txt file or both? 16:10:19 <planetmaker> Ammler, ? 16:10:25 <planetmaker> I didn't change any order... 16:17:22 <Ammler> http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenGFX_Readme#Credits 16:17:36 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/entry/docs/readme.txt#L147 16:17:44 <Ammler> they are different 16:18:02 <Brot6> OpenGFX: update from r95 to r99, starting nightly compile 16:18:22 <Ammler> mäh, it should make dependency checks 16:18:32 <Brot6> OpenGFX: nightlies compile finished with 2 errors: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/bundles/opengfx/nightlies/log/ 16:18:53 <yorick> Ammler: I think I have something 16:18:53 <Ammler> the bundle is equal to yesterday, just another rev name 16:20:20 <Ammler> nice 16:23:08 <yorick> hmm, would you like diagonal texts? 16:28:21 <planetmaker> :O 16:28:29 <planetmaker> Ammler, of OpenGFX? 16:28:29 <FooBar_> I was eating... 16:28:54 <FooBar_> changing wiki is most important IMO 16:28:54 <Ammler> planetmaker: ? 16:29:10 <planetmaker> <Ammler> the bundle is equal to yesterday, just another rev name <-- ? 16:29:18 <Ammler> one should be the "master" 16:29:43 <Ammler> planetmaker: because I did just cleanups, not real feature adds 16:29:49 <planetmaker> ah, ok 16:30:01 <FooBar_> to me the wiki is the master, but you're allowed to think differently ;) 16:30:09 <planetmaker> :) I do :P 16:30:10 <Ammler> :-P 16:30:30 <planetmaker> But the wiki is read more, I guess, so I agree that it's importatnt 16:30:32 <Ammler> well, Born Acorn needs to be added to the credtis 16:30:32 <planetmaker> *important 16:30:40 <Ammler> tell me how and I do, else you do. 16:30:44 <FooBar_> I'm still considering writing a script that parses the wiki content into a human readable plain text format. 16:30:59 <planetmaker> hm... 16:31:02 <FooBar_> One could then wget that and put it in the bundel as txt file 16:31:14 <planetmaker> curl 16:31:45 <Ammler> but you should curl the printable version 16:31:48 <Ammler> hmm 16:31:59 <Ammler> doesn't wiki support plain txt format? 16:32:23 <FooBar_> wiki has a printable version, but I couldn't find a plaintext format... 16:34:13 <yorick> ammler: http://senduit.com/d49d35 :) 16:34:15 <planetmaker> shouldn't / couldn't it be vice versa? Generating the wiki / web page from plain text? 16:34:18 <planetmaker> Way easier 16:34:22 <Webster> Title: senduit | Share easily. (at senduit.com) 16:34:27 <Ammler> yorick: no senduit link 16:34:34 <Ammler> use the devzone :-) 16:34:41 <yorick> Ammler: how? 16:34:55 <Ammler> file section 16:35:10 <Ammler> we can remove after I wget it 16:35:16 <yorick> file where? 16:35:26 <planetmaker> e.g. was :) 16:35:34 <Ammler> where you are allowed to :-) 16:36:05 <yorick> mh 16:36:23 <FooBar_> <planetmaker> shouldn't / couldn't it be vice versa? Generating the wiki / web page from plain text? <-- can that be done automatically? 16:36:39 <Ammler> :-) 16:36:47 <Ammler> I am happy you have Umlauts 16:37:02 <yorick> you don't? 16:37:14 <Ammler> I have, because I need 16:37:16 <FooBar_> I don't: maeh :P 16:37:53 <FooBar_> I can't be bothered to remember those Alt+x codes 16:38:09 <yorick> I have m"ah 16:38:10 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 176: Fix: no newline at EOF warnings @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/176 (by foobar) 16:39:20 <FooBar_> I find that rather annoying. I don't want to hit space every time I want a quote or something. And I need quotes far more often than umlauts... 16:39:42 <yorick> Ammler: I'll pm it to you on tt-forums 16:40:02 <yorick> :D 16:40:08 <yorick> or you can't wget that? 16:40:08 <FooBar_> When you write html you get annoyed by that behaviour rather quickly... <img src="images/... :P 16:40:25 <FooBar_> that needen't be an i with umlaut :) 16:40:43 <yorick> 16:40:56 <yorick> FooBar_: no, I'm used to adding a space 16:41:01 <Ammler> yorick: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/files/new 16:41:15 <FooBar_> ok, that's fine if you're used to it :) 16:41:28 <FooBar_> I'm not, but use whatever method you like best or are accustom to :) 16:42:15 <yorick> Ammler: http://clanmega.warlink.eu/yorick/atom2png.tar.gz 16:42:17 <yorick> there 16:42:23 <yorick> let me know when you have it ;) 16:42:39 <yorick> you need to adjust the feed location and number of entries 16:47:39 <yorick> ooh, html5 parser landed into gecko 16:49:00 <FooBar_> nice, but there's no use at the moment, as other browsers don't support it (yet) :( 16:50:08 <yorick> it's largely backwards compatible 16:50:19 <yorick> except for IE, that one needs a script to make the tags known 16:53:48 <yorick> Ammler: do you have it? 16:54:45 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:57:47 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 16:57:57 <FooBar_> well yes, but the new things aren't supported in other browsers anyways. Making it pretty useless to switch to html5 at this point. Also as it's no final specification yet... 16:58:46 <FooBar_> Once done it will be a nice successor of html4 though 16:59:24 <Ammler> it took quite long until the browsers are xhtml 1.0 capable 16:59:38 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:00:06 * yorick expects it to be sooner with the wars between webkit and gecko 17:00:16 <yorick> Ammler: have you got it yet? 17:00:33 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 17:02:17 <Ammler> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/atom2png/ 17:02:56 <yorick> :) 17:03:15 <yorick> you may want to change it a bit so the format is just like rss2png 17:06:39 <planetmaker> The image “http://mz.openttdcoop.org/atom2png/” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors. 17:06:58 <planetmaker> ^ Ammler 17:07:26 <yorick> yep, same here now 17:07:34 <yorick> it just worked ;) 17:08:10 <Ammler> try again :P 17:08:51 <planetmaker> the date is terribly wrong 17:08:58 <Ammler> :-) 17:09:12 <Ammler> I would say, it is plain 0 17:09:26 <planetmaker> :-) 17:09:32 <planetmaker> I tend to agree :-) 17:09:43 <Ammler> or null 17:10:13 <planetmaker> and can I have it for a single project, too? 17:10:16 <Ammler> yorick: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/activity.atom?show_changesets=1 17:11:51 <Ammler> pm, url? 17:12:49 <planetmaker> your choice, I'd say :) 17:12:59 <planetmaker> .../atom2png/<project>? 17:17:29 <Ammler> no 17:17:42 <Ammler> I meant, do you have a example atom feed 17:29:57 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:32:29 <yorick> Ammler: it uses the hg project atom feeds now 17:32:49 <yorick> and it uses the "published" date 17:35:03 <Ammler> yorick: it should use redmine atom feeds 17:35:14 <Ammler> that was the reason for atom 17:35:23 <Ammler> hgweb has rss 17:35:30 <yorick> Ammler: then you need to change "published" to "updated" 17:35:32 <yorick> ;) 17:35:35 <yorick> in the source 17:35:41 <yorick> it'll be compatible with both 17:37:01 <Ammler> ok 17:37:07 <Ammler> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/atom2png/ 17:37:51 <yorick> :) 17:38:01 <yorick> and now for the projects? :p 18:04:03 <Brot6> firs: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/firs/firs/ initiated. 18:04:13 <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/opengfx/ initiated. 18:19:31 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #98: Sprites 4480:4492 (13) - Office blocks @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/98#change-678 (by foobar) 18:27:25 <Ammler> FooBar_: :P 18:27:47 <Ammler> well, you should have easy parts too ;-) 18:29:28 * FooBar_ wonders why http://openttd.jaspervries.nl/opengfx/authoroverview/ is broken 18:30:16 <FooBar_> ah, because the csv is broken 18:30:27 <Ammler> I was wondering, why it replaced the whole file 18:30:29 <FooBar_> it should be ;-seperated and not tab-seperated 18:30:32 <Ammler> :-( 18:31:00 <Ammler> but then I thought, it is just some silly linefeeds and didn't make proper check 18:31:15 <Ammler> SORRY about 18:31:23 <Ammler> shall I revert as I am quitly? 18:31:27 <FooBar_> well, you can fix it ;) 18:31:42 <FooBar_> no need to be very sorry :P 18:31:52 <Ammler> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=799135#p799135 <-- will code that house too? 18:31:54 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX (at www.tt-forums.net) 18:32:07 <FooBar_> I haven't claimed that 18:32:15 <FooBar_> (yet) 18:32:15 <Ammler> it is the same ticket :P 18:32:18 <FooBar_> so you still can 18:32:29 <FooBar_> d'oh! 18:32:29 <Ammler> :-) 18:32:35 <FooBar_> oh, well then I better code it 18:32:50 <Ammler> I am happy, if you do. 18:37:02 <FooBar_> I already resized the sprites to the easy size... :P 18:40:34 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 100: Fix r97: the author overview uses ";" as field delimeter @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/100 (by Ammler) 18:41:15 <Ammler> I risk my internet connection to test it 18:41:52 <planetmaker> by what guidlines or rules get house sprites cut into their parts? Me wonders... 18:46:59 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #104: Sprites 4614:4619 (6) - Modern office block @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/104#change-679 (by Ammler) 18:46:59 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #104 (Assigned): Sprites 4614:4619 (6) - Modern office block @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/104#change-680 (by Ammler) 18:49:59 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/105 <-- this is tropic and could be moved with the tropic church to beta 18:50:16 <Ammler> so we could release the alpha5 18:51:03 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/104 <-- also tropic? 18:51:37 <FooBar_> planetmaker: none, just make sure you don't overlap as that looks weird in transparent mode. I usually cut straight as that's easiery, but cutting along the edge of a tile works just as fine 18:53:45 <planetmaker> FooBar_: any reason to cut it up then at all? 18:54:40 <FooBar_> If they exceed their bounding boxes too much, they get cropped by the game. If they overlap, you get darker parts in transparent mode which looks weird. 18:55:13 <FooBar_> I noticed the first while coding vehicles. I noticed the second while coding FIRS :P 18:55:55 <planetmaker> :P 18:56:02 <planetmaker> What defines their bounding box? 18:56:05 <Ammler> FooBar_: is your "silly" tram track set GPL too? 18:56:15 <FooBar_> nope 18:56:18 <Ammler> hmm 18:56:19 <planetmaker> (sorry for the stupid questions, they're certainly explained *somewhere*) 18:56:22 <FooBar_> The bits of it that are in OpenGFX are though :P 18:56:27 <Ammler> :') 18:56:45 <Ammler> no, it is fine 18:56:48 <FooBar_> planetmaker: no problem :) 18:57:14 <FooBar_> Ammler: my future tram track project will be GPL though, as I'm having a repo for that with DevZone ;) 18:57:35 <Ammler> I thought about using them to try the caple train 18:58:05 <FooBar_> The current ones are either CC BY-NC-SA or CC BY-NC-ND. The latter being an error which I never fixed 18:59:13 <FooBar_> You're allowed to use anything from my tram track set and release it under GPL if you want. 18:59:41 <planetmaker> :) 18:59:43 <FooBar_> I'm not relicensing the set right now, but I give you special permission to do so :) 18:59:44 * planetmaker hugs FooBar_ 18:59:50 <Ammler> not the tram track set 18:59:56 <FooBar_> ? 19:00:00 <Ammler> the one where you have that overhead track 19:00:07 <Ammler> or is that zephs? 19:00:20 <FooBar_> what's this then: <Ammler> FooBar_: is your "silly" tram track set GPL too? :S 19:00:33 <Ammler> "silly" 19:00:38 <Ammler> :-) 19:00:42 <FooBar_> hehe :) 19:00:45 <planetmaker> :) 19:00:49 <FooBar_> then you need Zeph... 19:00:55 <Ammler> it isn't in our pack 19:01:03 <Ammler> so I don't know the correct name 19:01:08 <FooBar_> I didn't do that one 19:01:12 <Ammler> I know all NewGRFs in our set :P 19:01:16 <FooBar_> urban suspended monorail if I'm not mistaken 19:01:19 <Ammler> pack* 19:01:29 <FooBar_> :) 19:02:44 * FooBar_ thinks planetmaker has been hugging him for long enough now 19:06:37 <planetmaker> :P 19:06:38 <FooBar_> hmpf...now I've broken OpenGFX compilation... 19:06:52 <planetmaker> :( 19:07:03 * planetmaker quickly unhugs FooBar_ 19:07:05 <planetmaker> :P 19:07:14 <FooBar_> :) 19:07:18 <Ammler> "Update the pack but remove the "BaNaNaS" grfs." might win 19:07:36 <FooBar_> I think that's the most sensible option 19:07:40 <planetmaker> kinda to expect, isn't it? 19:07:44 <FooBar_> Oh, I already posted that... :) 19:07:48 <Ammler> :P 19:07:51 <planetmaker> lol 19:08:02 <Ammler> I already made such commits 19:09:37 <Ammler> r543: Remove: use BaNaNaS :-) 19:09:58 <Ammler> r647: BaNaNaS 19:10:23 <Ammler> I feared that I need to revert those 19:11:14 <Ammler> I guess, I will create some tickets, so we see what to do with the pack. 19:21:09 <yorick> Ammler: I made that atom2png for use with worldairlinerset signature, could you at least make it so that I can specify it to use that feed? :-P 19:45:58 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:48:43 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 19:49:30 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:51:56 <andythenorth_> http://svn.openttd.org/ 19:52:02 <andythenorth_> oops 19:52:06 <andythenorth_> wrong app 19:52:08 <andythenorth_> :) 19:56:05 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 101: Feature: Arctic office blocks (Born Acorn) (closes #98, closes #103) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/101 (by foobar) 19:56:05 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #98 (Closed): Sprites 4480:4492 (13) - Office blocks @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/98#change-681 (by foobar) 19:56:06 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #103 (Closed): Sprites 4583:4587 (5) - Snow buildings @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/103#change-682 (by foobar) 19:56:21 <FooBar_> here we go 19:56:30 <FooBar_> did we want to do alpha-5 now? 19:58:35 <yorick> hmm, there was a PLINK.EXE in my background 19:58:37 <yorick> with 30% cpu 19:59:08 <planetmaker> FooBar_: sounds actually like an idea :) 20:04:07 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 20:06:21 <FooBar_> then I'll make one change to authoroverview and add a tag... 20:06:38 <FooBar_> Did I need to tag /before/ or /after/ commit? 20:07:22 <Ammler> [21:21] <yorick> Ammler: I made that atom2png for use with worldairlinerset signature, could you at least make it so that I can specify it to use that feed? <-- :-D 20:08:20 <Ammler> [21:56] <FooBar_> did we want to do alpha-5 now? <-- the curch 20:08:34 <FooBar_> ah... indeed... 20:09:11 <FooBar_> well, then I'll add that as well and then do alpha-5 20:09:19 <FooBar_> still, need to tag /before/ or /after/ commit? 20:09:38 <planetmaker> FooBar_: a tag is like a commit. 20:09:44 <FooBar_> oh ok 20:09:48 <planetmaker> So do what needs changing, commit that and then tag 20:09:56 <FooBar_> so after ;) 20:09:59 <FooBar_> thanks 20:10:00 <planetmaker> yes :) 20:10:42 <planetmaker> FooBar_: changelog... 20:10:51 <planetmaker> I can do that, if you give me the time 20:10:59 <FooBar_> ok, then I'll give you time 20:11:06 <Ammler> :-) 20:11:08 <FooBar_> Maybe you can tag once that's done then? 20:11:16 <Ammler> then you do the curch in that time FooBar_? 20:11:30 <FooBar_> I already started on the church :) 20:11:31 <Ammler> or shall I do that, if you give me the time :P 20:11:37 <Ammler> oh, nice 20:11:39 <FooBar_> I can give you time... 20:11:42 <Ammler> no 20:11:46 <FooBar_> :P 20:11:46 <Ammler> use it self : 20:12:51 <FooBar_> aren't there any snow versions? 20:13:24 <FooBar_> oh, he actually added it to the other issue :P 20:16:17 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #78 (Closed): pbs graphics @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/78#change-686 (by Ammler) 20:17:56 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/231 <-- water bug? 20:19:15 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/222 <-- don't see a airport bug 20:21:06 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Support #156: Temperate sprites for toyland @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/156#change-687 (by Ammler) 20:23:37 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:25:04 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/130 <-- I don't have this renum error 20:25:42 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 102: Cleanup: renum is silent about override sprites now. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/102 (by Ammler) 20:27:51 <planetmaker> may I commit? 20:27:51 <planetmaker> oh, wait, what do you implement now, FooBar_ ? 20:27:57 <Ammler> :-) 20:28:00 <FooBar_> the arctic church 20:28:09 <FooBar_> haven't committed anything yet... 20:28:12 <planetmaker> give me your commit message now :) 20:28:28 <planetmaker> yes, I only saw brot talking and thought it was you... 20:28:32 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/74 <-- british semaphores? 20:28:52 <FooBar_> Feature: Arctic church (Gen.Sniper) (closes #96, closes #101) 20:29:15 <planetmaker> :) 20:29:17 <planetmaker> thanks 20:29:26 <FooBar_> ok... 20:29:36 <planetmaker> you first or me first? 20:29:41 <FooBar_> you first 20:29:46 <FooBar_> I'm not even close to commit 20:29:53 <planetmaker> and... the maglev, Ammler - is it Born Acorns? 20:30:03 <Ammler> yes 20:30:03 <planetmaker> Then I missed that in the commit log somehow... :P 20:30:07 <planetmaker> ok 20:30:17 <Ammler> r75 or 76 20:31:02 <Ammler> r95: Feature #102: Born Acorn's monolev engines and passenger wagon. (finally ;-) 20:33:22 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #130 (Closed): investigate renum error on ogfxe.nfo @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/130#change-689 (by Ammler) 20:33:57 <planetmaker> indeed missed it. 20:37:22 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/222 <-- planetmaker, do you see the alignment issue here? 20:37:40 <FooBar_> bottom left sprite 20:37:47 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #231: Action colors removed from intro grf @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/231#change-690 (by Ammler) 20:38:34 <planetmaker> but I don't really see it... 20:39:17 <Ammler> only toyland airport? 20:39:37 <Ammler> then, I move it to beta1 20:40:15 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 103: Doc: Prepare changelog.txt for alpha5 release @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/103 (by planetmaker) 20:42:09 <planetmaker> btw, we're getting better with our commit messages. 20:42:15 <FooBar_> Hmpf...the arctic church is an arctic church, but the shops and offices as well :S 20:42:38 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #222: Alignment of airport runway sprites @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/222#change-691 (by Ammler) 20:42:41 <Ammler> hmm? 20:42:54 <planetmaker> In the beginning they're terrible. And using consequently the prefixes like Change, Fix, Feature, Add and Doc really helps in changelog.txt generation :) 20:43:19 <Ammler> I guess, specially mine are :-) 20:43:27 <planetmaker> yes :P 20:43:51 <FooBar_> I messed up maybe one or two as well 20:44:47 <Ammler> FooBar_: can we move that semaphore bug too? 20:44:55 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 20:45:12 <FooBar_> Ammler: yes we can! :P 20:45:24 <Ammler> mmmäh 20:45:30 *** yorick has quit IRC 20:45:35 <FooBar_> the shops and offices-thing is a bug in OpenTTD. It does that with the TTD graphics as well... 20:46:30 <FooBar_> can I commit something? 20:46:35 <Ammler> what are you speaking about? 20:46:36 <planetmaker> if you pull, yes 20:46:46 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #74: other semaphore type missing @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/74#change-693 (by Ammler) 20:47:06 <Ammler> hmm, those house alignment 20:47:22 <Ammler> I liked to make a script which adds all sprties to a station newgrf 20:47:40 <Ammler> so you could allign them with it. 20:47:50 <Ammler> I meant the check at aleast 20:49:01 <Ammler> planetmaker: you forgot to reference the issue :P 20:49:07 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/92 20:49:24 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 104: Feature: Arctic church (Gen.Sniper) (closes #96, closes #101) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/104 (by foobar) 20:49:24 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #101 (Closed): Sprites 4579:4579 (1) - Snow arctic church @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/101#change-695 (by foobar) 20:49:24 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #96 (Closed): Sprites 4462:4465 (4) - Arctic church @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/96#change-694 (by foobar) 20:50:19 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:51:08 <planetmaker> Ammler: yes... 20:51:17 <planetmaker> I guess that's something for the next release :) 20:51:34 <planetmaker> and: making good commit messages helps A LOT with that :) 20:51:48 <Ammler> what is the target for release now? 20:52:06 <FooBar_> make release? 20:52:11 <Ammler> :-D 20:52:12 <planetmaker> ^ 20:52:14 <planetmaker> :) 20:52:16 <Ammler> that is too obvious 20:52:40 <planetmaker> probably you want make release_zip 20:52:52 <planetmaker> shall I tag? 20:53:04 <planetmaker> or should I leave that to the project leader? ;) 20:53:11 <Ammler> oh, indeed, we need tag 20:53:39 <planetmaker> alpha5 20:53:40 <Ammler> that is the last commit then :P 20:53:46 <planetmaker> or what? 20:53:46 <Ammler> more 20:53:58 <Ammler> 0.1.0-alpha5 20:54:06 <planetmaker> 0.1.0-alpha5 is it then. 20:54:33 <Ammler> else I do it on the server :P 20:54:38 <Ammler> anonymous :P 20:54:47 <FooBar_> go ahead and tag... 20:54:55 <FooBar_> I'll be watching tv in a moment 20:55:04 <FooBar_> 0.1.0-alpha5 is good :) 20:55:44 <FooBar_> I'll do the forum announcement in an hour then 20:55:49 <Ammler> tag is done 20:56:04 <Ammler> and bananas 20:56:10 <planetmaker> mäh 20:56:23 <planetmaker> and you created now two heads here, Ammler 20:56:31 <planetmaker> you should say that you tag 20:56:37 <Ammler> oh you made the tag? 20:56:40 <Ammler> lol 20:56:51 <planetmaker> pushed 20:56:55 <Ammler> [22:54] <Ammler> else I do it on the server [22:54] <Ammler> anonymous 20:57:13 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 106: Added tag 0.1.0-alpha5 for changeset e21fc97d5899 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/106 (by planetmaker) 20:57:13 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 105: Added tag 0.1.0-alpha5 for changeset e21fc97d5899 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/105 (by ottdc@mozart) 20:57:13 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 107: Merge: r104, 105... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/107 (by planetmaker) 20:57:13 <planetmaker> [22:51] <planetmaker> shall I tag? 20:57:14 <planetmaker> [22:51] <planetmaker> or should I leave that to the project leader? ;) 20:57:26 <Ammler> hmm 20:57:29 <planetmaker> Ammler: fix your .hgrc 20:57:31 <Ammler> I remove those 20:57:42 <planetmaker> ? 20:57:44 <Ammler> why did you push that? 20:57:54 <planetmaker> why not? 20:58:01 <Ammler> because it is the same :P 20:58:35 <Ammler> I strip them away... very silly isn't? 20:58:53 <planetmaker> nah. Constantly stripping from a public repo is silly 20:58:59 <Ammler> [22:54] <Ammler> anonymous 20:59:27 <Ammler> commits I do from server are ottdc@mozart 20:59:35 <Ammler> might be someone else 20:59:36 <planetmaker> and I don't have strip here... 20:59:50 <planetmaker> well... why do it at the server? 21:00:05 <planetmaker> it kinda refutes the purpose of tracking who did what, doesn't it? 21:00:05 <Ammler> as you saw the 2 heads, why did you merge, don't get that,? 21:01:05 <Ammler> there are some other commit from ottdc 21:01:28 <Ammler> you don't like that? 21:01:53 <Ammler> I think, it is better, as I would use Ammler 21:02:21 <Ammler> strip is distributed with core mercurial 21:02:47 <Ammler> even bitbucket.org can strip 21:03:56 <Ammler> well, anyway, you should explain me, why you merged those heads :-D 21:06:14 <Ammler> isilence 21:06:18 <planetmaker> .. 21:06:26 <planetmaker> I don't know what commit that was? 21:06:39 <Ammler> you merge without checking what? 21:06:48 <planetmaker> if it works, yes 21:07:04 <Ammler> hmm, why didn't that conflict? 21:07:07 <planetmaker> if it doesn't work it will tell me 21:07:12 <planetmaker> because it's exactly the same 21:07:29 <Ammler> and that shouldn't conflict? 21:08:03 <planetmaker> would be stupid, eh? 21:08:07 <Ammler> I strip the last 3 commits on the server, so you can push again, ok? 21:08:19 <planetmaker> then I push everything again 21:08:32 <planetmaker> or I'd need to completely re-checkout opengfx 21:08:56 <Ammler> well, up2you 21:09:23 <planetmaker> hg strip 21:09:24 <planetmaker> hg: unknown command 'strip' 21:09:36 <Ammler> looks very silly 21:10:17 <planetmaker> yes. Let it be a reminder that we shouldn't be stupid 21:10:51 <planetmaker> or tell me how I strip that stuff from my repo here. 21:11:00 <planetmaker> and possibly others, too 21:11:07 <Ammler> very old mercurial version? 21:11:12 <planetmaker> 1.2.1 21:11:13 <Ammler> or is it a extension? 21:11:19 <planetmaker> obviously 21:11:33 <Ammler> hgext.mq = 21:11:35 <Ammler> hgext.hgview=/home/marcel/hg/hgview/hgext/hgview.py 21:11:36 <Ammler> convert = 21:11:38 <Ammler> hgk= 21:12:15 <Ammler> Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 1.3) 21:12:34 <planetmaker> that's like 7 days old... ^ 21:12:43 <Ammler> but server has Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 1.2.1) 21:12:51 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 21:13:12 <Ammler> > hg strip 21:13:14 <Ammler> hg strip: invalid arguments 21:13:34 <planetmaker> with 1.3 or 1.2.1? 21:13:48 <Ammler> 1.2.1 21:13:54 <Ammler> it is with mq ? 21:14:10 <Ammler> or convert 21:14:15 <Ammler> those 2 are on the server 21:14:46 <planetmaker> mq 21:16:53 <planetmaker> if I add mq to this repo, I have it, too 21:17:54 <Ammler> wait stip is even cooler 21:18:05 <Ammler> I stripped r105 21:18:17 <Ammler> and it automatically removed your merge too 21:18:24 <Ammler> but kept your real commit 21:18:28 <Ammler> which is now 105 21:18:28 <planetmaker> how? 21:18:51 <Ammler> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/hg/opengfx 21:19:22 <planetmaker> gimme your command please 21:19:45 <planetmaker> I need to do exactly the same or it won't last 21:20:45 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 101: Feature: Arctic office blocks (Born Acorn) (closes #98, closes #103) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/101 (by foobar) 21:20:45 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #103 (Closed): Sprites 4583:4587 (5) - Snow buildings @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/103#change-682 (by foobar) 21:21:05 <planetmaker> Ammler: ? 21:21:36 <Ammler> hg strip <myuglycommit> 21:21:45 <planetmaker> please copy&paste 21:21:46 <Ammler> on the server it was 105 21:22:24 <Ammler> do hg log -l3 21:22:39 <Ammler> then check for the commit from ottdc@mozart 21:22:54 <Ammler> then "hg strip <rev>" 21:23:25 <Ammler> but as you had to merge, it might be r106 for you 21:23:30 <planetmaker> hm... removed wrong one. removed other, pulled :P 21:24:06 <planetmaker> indeed. revisions are not the same :P 21:24:11 <planetmaker> the bane of DVCS 21:24:16 <Ammler> I liked your commit more, so I removed mine 21:24:26 <planetmaker> why are mine better? 21:24:35 <Ammler> you mentioned the hash 21:24:52 <Ammler> or 21:24:52 <planetmaker> btw, when commiting from the server, you could use hg ci -u Ammler -m "blubber" 21:24:57 <Ammler> was that hg which did it? 21:24:59 <Ammler> or 21:25:09 <Ammler> well anayway, 21:25:12 <planetmaker> it's hg 21:25:12 <Ammler> done now :P 21:25:14 <planetmaker> :) 21:25:43 <Ammler> yeah, but I thought, I like to use there explicitely ottdc 21:26:03 <Ammler> so "someone" sees, it was made on the server 21:26:17 <Ammler> like as I committed something for is2 21:26:21 <Ammler> where I am not dev 21:26:34 <planetmaker> ha, make release works woooo! 21:26:50 <planetmaker> what's the use of "made on server"? 21:27:04 <planetmaker> hm... 21:27:38 <planetmaker> I don't think it makes sense. 21:27:44 <planetmaker> Because it was still you 21:27:54 <planetmaker> and the place you do something doesn't matter 21:28:31 <planetmaker> at least not for the repo :) 21:28:44 <planetmaker> there are good reasons to do something here and not there, though :) 21:28:45 <Ammler> mäh, the sample local file is very lmited on opengfx :-) 21:29:01 <planetmaker> hm, I assume. What's missing? 21:29:12 <planetmaker> Well, anything in config can be added 21:30:09 <planetmaker> he.... release_zip doesn't work 21:31:01 <Ammler> release_zip : No such file or directory 21:31:05 <Ammler> hi 21:31:12 <planetmaker> replace $@ by $< 21:31:21 <planetmaker> $(ZIP) $(ZIP_FLAGS) $(ZIP_FILENAME) $< 21:31:37 <Ammler> well 21:32:01 <planetmaker> but then you create alpha5M :P 21:32:51 <Ammler> hmm, the readme? 21:33:16 <Ammler> indeed M :-) 21:33:39 <planetmaker> makefile changed. So it's modified ;) 21:33:59 <planetmaker> release works. You could then zip by hand :P 21:34:04 <planetmaker> commited fix. 21:34:36 <Ammler> well, too late 21:34:44 <Ammler> we need to update the readme 21:34:48 <planetmaker> for alpha5, yes 21:34:56 <planetmaker> hu? 21:35:02 <planetmaker> for what? 21:35:29 <planetmaker> why? 21:36:13 <planetmaker> ... 21:36:21 <Ammler> because we said, that the wiki is master, didn't we? 21:36:44 <planetmaker> ok. what is missing? 21:36:44 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 106: Fix: release_zip didn't do the right thing [TM] @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/106 (by planetmaker) 21:36:58 <Ammler> and i.e. the order of the credits is wrong in the txt 21:37:09 <planetmaker> doesn#t matter for the release 21:37:20 <planetmaker> we should now publish that and then fix it. 21:37:31 <planetmaker> it _really_ doesn't matter 21:37:40 <Ammler> well, it matters for the release, what else? 21:37:59 <planetmaker> the _order_ of the credits? 21:38:01 <Ammler> I agree if born acorn is in 21:38:06 <planetmaker> come on! 21:38:36 <Ammler> he isn't 21:38:44 <Ammler> imo, that matters 21:38:58 <Ammler> well, we can change that manually 21:39:16 <Ammler> no need to make new tag, if you don't want 21:39:27 <Ammler> else we could just strip again :P 21:39:45 <planetmaker> go ahead. I'm off to bed 21:40:10 <Ammler> :-) 21:40:22 <Ammler> means you agree, I can do 21:40:35 <Ammler> or you don't agree but you don't care? 21:40:43 <Ammler> :-D 21:40:58 <planetmaker> don't strip. But do what you think needs doing 21:42:42 <Ammler> imo we should make the pdf 21:42:58 <Ammler> until we have a "clean" txt 21:44:04 <planetmaker> what's wrong with the txt? 21:44:57 <Ammler> or we add born acorn manually? 21:45:20 <Ammler> well, we leave it up 2 FooBar_ 21:46:31 <planetmaker> what about you commit all those changes you deem necessary? hm? 21:47:06 <planetmaker> and when you're satisfied move the tag 21:49:54 <Ammler> I asked that already this evening 21:49:59 <Ammler> seems we didn't agree 21:50:11 <Ammler> which is the "master" readme? 21:50:25 <Ammler> (I don't care, I just need to know) 21:51:19 <planetmaker> foobar said wiki 21:51:22 <planetmaker> so wiki it is 21:54:25 <FooBar_> I missed something? 21:57:51 <FooBar_> I already added Born Acorn to wiki credits and just did for Gen.Sniper 21:59:09 <planetmaker> Ammler still has problems to call the taged version a release because those two names are missing in the enclosed do-not-readme.txt 21:59:58 <Ammler> :-) 21:59:59 <planetmaker> and because the order of names differ 22:00:13 <Ammler> well, order is 2nd 22:00:16 <planetmaker> but doesn't dare to update and re-tag 22:00:18 <Ammler> but the names should be in 22:00:23 <planetmaker> go! 22:00:26 <Ammler> :-) 22:00:35 <planetmaker> instead of constantly complaining... 22:00:40 <Ammler> :P 22:01:16 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 137: Added Was.nfo.new.nfo (After renum) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/137 (by Beardie27) 22:01:57 <FooBar_> I don't really care about the order of names, but I do think those two people need to be credited properly. 22:03:34 <Ammler> will we add them to the txt? 22:03:42 <Ammler> or a wiki pdf? 22:03:55 <Ammler> as we need to replace the readme anyway 22:04:06 <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/opengfx/ initiated. 22:04:38 <FooBar_> I just added them to the text and updated another line 22:09:07 <Ammler> dead? http://ttd.jaspervries.nl/wiki/index.php?title=TransRapid_Track_Set 22:11:31 <FooBar_> yes 22:11:50 <FooBar_> changed host a while back and never bothered to put it back up 22:12:32 <Ammler> dead? http://openttd.jaspervries.nl/wiki/index.php?title=TransRapid_Track_Set 22:13:20 <Ammler> I made a bit advertising at #openttd :-) 22:13:36 <Ammler> people don't like the maglev tracks 22:13:49 <Ammler> so I showed yours 22:15:42 <Ammler> ok, FooBar_, do you commit the readme change? 22:15:50 <Ammler> and also "retag" 22:15:56 <FooBar_> I messed something up... 22:16:15 <FooBar_> I tried to remove tag, but actually added a new one 22:16:18 <Ammler> I would change the nick from mb to mb 22:16:42 <Ammler> I remember a talk in the forums, that he would like to use that :-) 22:16:47 <FooBar_> now I want to go back to pm's last commit, but can't figure out how... 22:16:58 <FooBar_> hg tip still shows my mess-up 22:16:58 <Ammler> hg rollback 22:17:13 <FooBar_> "no rollback information available" 22:17:25 <Ammler> hg strip <rev> then :-) 22:17:57 <FooBar_> unknown command 'strip' :S 22:18:09 <Ammler> in your mercurial.ini 22:18:23 <Ammler> section [extensions] 22:18:49 <Ammler> hgext.mq = 22:19:36 <FooBar_> :) 22:20:53 <Ammler> btw, only strip things on you local side 22:21:10 <Ammler> on the server only, if you are sure, nobody did pull 22:21:57 <FooBar_> I didn't commit... 22:22:04 <FooBar_> errr...push 22:22:54 <FooBar_> now it should be alright. 22:23:01 <FooBar_> and now I go to bed :P 22:23:07 <FooBar_> announcement can wait... 22:23:10 <FooBar_> good night! 22:24:15 <Ammler> hehe 22:25:04 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 107: Removed tag 0.1.0-alpha5 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/107 (by foobar) 22:25:04 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 108: Doc: update readme and changelog. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/108 (by foobar) 22:25:04 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 109: Added tag 0.1.0-alpha5 for changeset cfc4823e9ad0 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/109 (by foobar) 22:28:53 <Ammler> oh well 23:55:22 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #77: town building misalignment @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/77#change-696 (by Ammler) 23:55:22 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #92: Update changelog.txt @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/92#change-697 (by Ammler)