Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 10th July 2009:
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01:33:42  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 74M)
01:33:42  <Brot6> Will it improve my CASH FLOW?
02:04:07  <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
04:51:49  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 110: Fix: Don't tell when using 'make install' that there's an error, if there... @ (by planetmaker)
04:54:00  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Generic NewGRF Makefile - Revision 12: Fix: Don't tell when using 'make install' that there's an ... @ (by planetmaker)
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06:04:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 111: Feature: Add toffee truck (part of issue #124) @ (by planetmaker)
06:21:12  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 112: Feature: Toy truck (part of issue #124) @ (by planetmaker)
06:21:12  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 113: Feature: Mail truck for toyland (part of issue #124) @ (by planetmaker)
06:21:12  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 114: Feature: Sweets truck (part of issue #124) @ (by planetmaker)
06:35:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 115: Change: don't keep around old readme which only caused confusion @ (by planetmaker)
06:59:49  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 116: Feature: plastics truck in toyland (part of issue #124) @ (by planetmaker)
07:01:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #124: Sprites 601:760 (160) - Road trucks @ (by planetmaker)
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07:42:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #318: revert of commit #137 @ (by planetmaker)
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08:09:30  <yorick> planetmaker: that file was already removed ;)
08:10:18  <yorick> and we're at r285 already ;)
08:10:41  <planetmaker> ok. Then you can close it as invalid. But that showed up here as latest commit
08:10:54  <planetmaker>
08:11:38  <planetmaker> must be some kind of funny redmine error... hm...
08:11:42  <planetmaker> Ammler, ^
08:12:25  <yorick> planetmaker: beardies system time was set wrong when making that commit
08:12:37  <yorick> Ammler already fixed it from showing up as a future commit
08:15:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #318 (Closed): revert of commit #137 @ (by yorick)
08:18:06  <planetmaker> ah. ok.
08:18:20  <planetmaker> Then all is fine :)
08:19:18  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 117: Cleanup: tidy up makefile a bit @ (by planetmaker)
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08:40:27  <FooBar_> good morning :)
08:40:38  <FooBar_> why is there no tar in the opengfx zip?
08:40:56  <FooBar_> I think the grfs+obg still should be tarred...
08:41:09  <planetmaker> FooBar_, then call make tar :)
08:41:31  <planetmaker> the zip itself - why should it be tar'ed? Then people will never read the do-not-readme
08:42:03  <Ammler> morning people
08:42:08  <FooBar_> no, the readme should be provided outside the tar as well
08:42:08  <planetmaker> Basically I removed the fact that the zip just compressed the tar on ^ request :)
08:42:12  <FooBar_> morning ammler
08:42:13  <planetmaker> hello you two :)
08:42:22  <FooBar_> morning planetmaker
08:42:27  <FooBar_> :)
08:42:37  <Hirundo> morning guys
08:42:44  <FooBar_> morning hirundo
08:42:47  <planetmaker> moin Hirundo
08:43:36  <FooBar_> well, besides that the readme tells that people should copy over a tar file, it's easier to make sure that people copy over every file to avoid errors
08:43:42  <FooBar_> with the tar its all or nothing
08:43:59  <FooBar_> so I'm saying:
08:44:11  <FooBar_> zip <-- readme, changelog, license, tar
08:44:23  <planetmaker> hm...
08:44:31  <planetmaker> makes sense
08:44:39  <FooBar_> tar <-- obg, grfs, readme (again), changelog(again), license(again)
08:44:44  <Ammler> if that is possible, would be nice, indeed.
08:44:47  <planetmaker> that doesn't make sense
08:44:55  <planetmaker> twice the information?
08:44:58  <FooBar_> well, the latter we can discuss
08:45:00  <planetmaker> in the same bundle?
08:45:11  <FooBar_> it's easier, as the makefile can already do that :P
08:45:34  <planetmaker> that's true.
08:45:44  <FooBar_> and that way people still have the readme around if they throw out the rest of the zip (which most will do)
08:45:45  <planetmaker> :D
08:45:48  <Ammler> the grfs needs to be tared, that is something we agree all :-)
08:45:58  <Ammler> (and obg)
08:46:04  <planetmaker> well. I'll add it this way then
08:46:04  <FooBar_> yep, that's the most important bit IMO
08:46:09  <planetmaker> those few kb don't hurt
08:46:33  <FooBar_> especially if zipped
08:46:46  <FooBar_> that maybe adds a few bytes
08:47:07  <Ammler> I am not a friend of redundancy, but well.
08:47:42  <FooBar_> usually me neither, but in this case I'll make an exception :P
08:47:58  <FooBar_> oh and Ammler, nice work on the sceenshot-teasers :)
08:48:27  <Ammler> thanks, was looking for black boxes :-)
08:48:33  <FooBar_> gen.sniper seems happy to see his church in
08:48:45  <planetmaker> yup, that's a nice teaser in deed :)
08:48:46  <Ammler> his snow looks a bit different
08:48:48  <planetmaker> *indeed
08:48:49  <FooBar_> there shouldn't be any in temperate and arctic any more
08:49:01  <FooBar_> well, we can change the snow later on if needed
08:49:01  <planetmaker> there seems to be still tropical
08:49:20  <Ammler> and I miss snow in the born acorn tower
08:49:24  <Ammler> park
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08:51:00  <planetmaker> hm... not so easy as I thought this makefile change in a clean manner... :S
08:51:16  <planetmaker> readme.txt is generated... that needs some work.
08:52:28  <FooBar_> Ammler: that's unfortunately not possible, as those ground sprites are shared with the no-snow version as well
08:54:16  <Ammler> he, I feared something like that :-)
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08:54:42  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #319: make zip should tar the grfs @ (by planetmaker)
08:57:31  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 118: Cleanup: Use argument names in some makefile targets better @ (by planetmaker)
08:57:39  <Ammler> and making the whole snow version one tile?
08:57:49  <Ammler> one sprite*
08:59:46  <FooBar_> that would mess with the cursor, but in theory would be possible
09:00:08  <FooBar_> the tile selection sprite is drawn inbetween the ground and building sprite
09:00:26  <FooBar_> if you attach the ground to the building, the selection sprite would be invisible
09:00:35  <planetmaker> hm... then it doesn't sound like a sane idea
09:01:30  <FooBar_> hmmmz...if I hg up 0.1.0-alpha5 then your makefile changes get lost again...
09:01:35  <FooBar_> retag?
09:01:41  <FooBar_> again? :P
09:02:06  <FooBar_> I'll do a manual zip-and-release for this time then...
09:02:35  <Ammler>
09:03:18  <FooBar_> hehe...that sprint in the very end :P
09:05:16  <Ammler> looks like "real" project :-)
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09:06:37  <Hirundo> I told you it was real!
09:07:16  <Ammler> :P
09:07:44  <FooBar_> the new zip is in place...
09:07:50  <FooBar_> I'm going to make the call...
09:07:53  <FooBar_> :P
09:08:32  <Ammler> [Don Jul 9 2009] [23:54:04] <Ammler> opengfx complete?
09:08:33  <Ammler> [Don Jul 9 2009] [23:54:29] <Rubidium> never! :)
09:09:00  <Ammler> [Don Jul 9 2009] [23:56:25] <TrueBrain> Ammler: only the opntitle.dat begin position .. doesn't mean much :p
09:09:01  <Ammler> [Don Jul 9 2009] [23:56:46] <TrueBrain> I have to say... never expected to see it anywhere NEAR finished :p
09:09:50  <Ammler> [Don Jul 9 2009] [23:57:13] <Rubidium> I suggest that you make the changelog's formatting somewhat uniform <-- planetmaker?
09:10:36  <Ammler> FooBar_: bananas :P
09:10:48  <FooBar_> yes, in due time :)
09:11:45  <yorick> :)
09:14:02  <Ammler> [Don Jul 9 2009] [23:57:41] <Ammler> well, at least the temperate and arctic is done for first beta, foobar will release alpha5 tonight
09:17:41  <yorick> Ammler: could you add project-specific png images to atom2png? :)
09:17:56  <Ammler> oh, indeed
09:18:05  <Ammler> forgot that
09:18:30  <Ammler> gimme example url
09:18:56  <yorick>
09:19:53  <Ammler> yorick: let me set it to that url until I have time for customization?
09:19:55  <Ammler> ok?
09:20:11  <yorick> hmm, can I customize it?
09:20:26  <Ammler> why not?
09:20:35  * yorick will do
09:20:51  * Ammler waits then :-)
09:21:58  <FooBar_> •A pack can't contain a license file if you selected a non-custom license. We supply that for you.
09:22:12  * FooBar_ removes license file
09:23:40  <FooBar_> it seems that it can contain a directory though...
09:23:49  <Ammler> that is where make bananas comes to work :-)
09:24:16  <FooBar_> it's there!
09:24:56  * FooBar_ makes clean
09:25:27  <Ammler> you ROCK :-)
09:25:39  <FooBar_> not without the help of you guys
09:25:56  <Ammler>
09:26:01  <Ammler> still use that?
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09:26:26  <FooBar_> maybe move those to opengfx/releases
09:26:48  <Ammler> url on bananas seems broken:
09:27:09  <Ammler> I wget those
09:27:12  <FooBar_> put some crap in front...
09:27:14  <FooBar_> ok cool
09:27:40  <FooBar_> Or I left some crap in front :P
09:28:26  <planetmaker> <Ammler> [Don Jul 9 2009] [23:57:13] <Rubidium> I suggest that you make the changelog's formatting somewhat uniform <-- planetmaker? <-- yes :)
09:30:31  <planetmaker> Though I don't consider it bad.
09:30:43  <planetmaker> And re-formatting all the old stuff is... a pain.
09:31:09  <planetmaker> For the new stuff it should suffice to just copy&paste the relevant commit messages.
09:31:18  <planetmaker> Though some need obviously some editing
09:32:15  <Ammler> moved:
09:32:32  <Ammler> and specially for FooBar_
09:32:52  <FooBar_> ah, thanks
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09:40:00  <FooBar_> we're seriously messing up the Joel Test... "Do you fix bugs before writing new code?"
09:40:20  <FooBar_> all we did was postpone bugs till the next release and add new stuff first :P
09:42:28  <Ammler> <-- added a dummy file for redirtect to the download area.
09:42:59  <Ammler> FooBar_: shhht
09:43:08  <yorick> heh, the png could use swatch internet time :D
09:43:37  <Ammler> @480 now?
09:43:55  <yorick> @446 ;)
09:43:59  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - DownloadReleases.html @ (by Ammler)
09:44:45  <FooBar_> Ammler: On the other hand we score pretty good on the other 11 steps IMO :)
09:45:25  <Ammler> the only bug we moved is the house alignment
09:45:40  <Ammler> the others are releated to things on the unfinished section anyway
09:45:50  <andythenorth_>
09:45:51  <Webster> Title: TT Foundry: Pixel Creations for Open Transport Tycoon (at
09:45:55  <andythenorth_> nearly half done :)
09:46:01  <andythenorth_> or only half done :)
09:46:14  <Ammler> wow, already!
09:46:14  <andythenorth_> depending on your personal pyschology
09:47:10  <Ammler> if you don't have any industries to do anymore, you can make toyland industries :P
09:50:19  <yorick> Ammler:
09:55:18  <FooBar_> only half I think...
09:55:21  <FooBar_> this is basic code...
09:55:40  <FooBar_> callbacks and varaction are at least as much work as what I do for each industry now...
09:55:43  <FooBar_> but I'm off...
09:55:46  <FooBar_> bye!
10:04:05  <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
10:51:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Release! (0.1.0-alpha5) @ (by Ammler)
11:18:13  <planetmaker> FooBar_, there are fixes in the changelog :)
11:18:31  <planetmaker> (and I don't know why you removed the one from the changelog actually...)
11:51:26  <Ammler> "hopefully" might be the keyword ;-)
12:04:00  <planetmaker> Any good proposals to what I should rename the readme.txt in the repository. It's not the final one and it needs processing.
12:04:08  <planetmaker> I currently think of something like
12:04:16  <planetmaker> Other proposals?
12:04:31  <planetmaker> or .pre?
12:05:08  <Ammler> or ptxt
12:05:46  <planetmaker> good idea. That'sd be consistant.
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13:24:16  <yorick> Ammler:
13:24:34  * yorick is back from migraine attack :-|
13:28:23  <Hirundo> ..and there was much rejoicing..
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14:00:54  <Ammler> is andy banned on #openttd because of his connection?
14:01:10  <Ammler> yorick: is that now final?
14:01:19  <Ammler> or shall I wait some other hours?
14:02:05  <planetmaker> Ammler, yes
14:02:38  <Ammler> so I am not the only one, annoyied about that :-)
14:02:45  <planetmaker> :) no
14:03:10  <planetmaker> I tried to convince him to use the bouncer but he insists that his client doesn't work with it.
14:03:22  <planetmaker> I'm sure I worked with that client for a week or so, though ;)
14:04:05  <Ammler> well, ssl might be the tricky part
14:06:42  <Ammler>
14:07:08  <Ammler> does tt-forums allow that or do I need to make rewrite rules?
14:07:26  <planetmaker> as link? why not?
14:07:38  <Ammler> *.png
14:08:29  <planetmaker> hm... good question.
14:09:27  <Ammler> and yorick, does the tool limit the width?
14:09:54  <Ammler> so you don't screw up the tt-forums with too big sig.
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14:13:10  <yorick> no, it does not
14:13:19  <yorick> but the feed does
14:13:25  <Ammler> ?
14:13:40  <Ammler> well, I had to do that for rss2png
14:13:49  <planetmaker> :D
14:13:56  * planetmaker likes verbose commit messages :)
14:14:11  <yorick> the feed limits it after some chars
14:14:46  <Ammler> still too much
14:14:47  <yorick> :)
14:15:02  <Ammler> or are the redmine feeds shorter then hgweb?
14:15:11  <yorick> I guess they ae...
14:15:41  <yorick> but it does get bigger than 600px...
14:16:16  <Ammler> I made a if clause in the rss2png
14:16:27  <Ammler> if with > 600 or so with=600
14:16:35  <yorick> Ammler: you can use $width = min(600, $width);
14:16:47  <Ammler> max :P
14:16:52  <yorick> no, min
14:16:55  <Ammler> ?
14:17:06  <yorick> max would set the lower limit
14:17:08  <yorick> to 600
14:17:31  <yorick> because 600 is bigger than anything lower than it
14:18:28  <Ammler> ic
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14:23:02  <Ammler> ok, added an url var maxwidth
14:23:07  <Ammler> default is 600
14:23:52  <yorick> nope, doesn't work
14:24:20  <yorick> use $maxwidth - 2 ;)
14:30:30  <Ammler>
14:31:14  <Ammler> I symlink that folder
14:31:25  <Ammler> so if you have changes, commit them right there
14:31:30  <Ammler> and ping me for update
14:32:45  <yorick> MHM
14:32:48  <Ammler> ?
14:35:04  <yorick> Ammler: where should I push to?
14:35:18  <Ammler>
14:35:46  <yorick> it says "ssl required"
14:37:21  <Ammler> that is the clone url
14:37:28  <Ammler> sorry
14:37:36  <Ammler> use same as for was
14:37:42  <Ammler> just repalce was with misc
14:38:47  <yorick> k
14:38:49  <yorick> updated
14:40:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 14: initial commit from atom2png viewer @ (by yorick)
14:40:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 15: Feature: new url get var: maxwidth (default: 600) @ (by Ammler)
14:40:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 16: Fix (r15): use maxwidth - 2 @ (by yorick)
14:40:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 119: Change: make the doc files a separate dependancy as they might need pre-p... @ (by planetmaker)
14:40:52  <yorick> Ammler: it doesn't change?
14:41:00  <Ammler> I need update
14:42:08  <Ammler> check again :-)
14:42:14  <yorick> Ammler: would hg push --removecommand up work too? :p
14:42:17  <yorick> and it works now
14:42:54  <Ammler> --removecommand?
14:43:00  <Ammler> remote?
14:43:15  <yorick> yes
14:43:17  <yorick> remote
14:43:30  <Ammler> that is possible?
14:43:39  <Ammler> or are you kidding?
14:43:55  <yorick> hg help push
14:44:28  <Ammler> hmm, interesting
14:44:40  <yorick> --remotecmd
14:45:54  <yorick> oh
14:45:59  <yorick> it just allows to specify hg path on server
14:46:36  <Ammler> example?
14:47:53  <yorick> "SSH requires an accessible shell account on the destination machine
14:47:56  <yorick>       and a copy of hg in the remote path or specified with as remotecmd."
14:49:38  <yorick> '%s %s "%s -R %s server --stdio"' % (sshcmd, args, remotecmd, self.path)
14:57:15  <planetmaker> Ammler, FooBar_ : now you have the one-copy-installation of opengfx :)
14:58:22  <planetmaker> but it has the redundancy of having the doc twice. But I think that's fair - people will delete the doc anyway :P
14:59:38  <yorick> Ammler: the r137 shill shows up on the feeds?
14:59:46  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 120: Change: Within the zip bundles put all required files into a single tar f... @ (by planetmaker)
15:00:31  <Ammler> yorick: possible didn't patch everything :-)
15:02:21  * Ammler goes for some minutes to the ps server
15:03:52  <yorick> mh, it's ugly on non-white backgrounds
15:11:46  <yorick> Ammler: update please? :-P
15:13:55  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 17: - Fix(r14): use alpha blending @ (by yorick)
16:01:16  <yorick> Ammler: update? :-p
16:01:31  <Ammler> patience!
16:01:35  <Ammler> :-)
16:02:06  <Ammler> updated
16:02:18  <yorick> :)
16:02:24  <yorick> thanks
16:03:12  <yorick> now with nice alpha blended antialiasing :)
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16:18:02  <Brot6> OpenGFX: update from r99 to r120, starting nightly compile
16:18:18  <Brot6> OpenGFX: nightlies compile successful:
16:20:58  <planetmaker> :P
16:21:25  <planetmaker> 20% of the commits in the 24 hourse around the release of alpha5
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16:43:01  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #124: Sprites 601:760 (160) - Road trucks @ (by planetmaker)
17:11:49  <FooBar_> planetmaker: I removed one from the changelog because that fix didn't actually fix anything and was fixed again later on ;)
17:13:03  <planetmaker> hm... it came after the commit of the other font things - or do I err?
17:13:16  <planetmaker> Then we don't have the latter one, then - or do we?
17:16:21  <FooBar_> let's see...
17:17:03  <FooBar_> This one is the actual fix and is still in the log:
17:17:05  <FooBar_> - Fix (r42): Re-fix Bug #87: space-character of newspaper font
17:17:42  <FooBar_> and this one didn't do anything, so I removed that from the log:
17:17:44  <FooBar_> - Fix (Bug #87): made "space" character of newspaper font transparent (hopefully)
17:18:10  <FooBar_> I considered the latter a bit unnecessary
17:18:15  <FooBar_> :)
17:27:40  <Ammler> [18:18] <Brot6> OpenGFX: nightlies compile successful: <-- \o/
17:30:20  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - toyland_test.sav @ (by planetmaker)
17:30:20  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Document: test game toyland @ (by planetmaker)
17:30:51  <Ammler> :-)
17:31:05  <planetmaker> no errors?
17:31:08  <planetmaker> \o/
17:31:09  <Ammler> yes
17:31:20  <planetmaker> what happend to them?
17:31:31  <Ammler> first time I see this message
17:31:40  <planetmaker> so you didn't change anything?
17:31:49  <Ammler> me? no
17:31:59  <Ammler> (not that I am aware of)
17:32:00  <planetmaker> then it was me :)
17:32:05  <Ammler> :P
17:32:15  <planetmaker> I added saveguards to a number of commands which could fail
17:32:26  <planetmaker> they're now not executed anymore then, guarded by ifs
17:32:35  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - titlegame3.sav @ (by planetmaker)
17:32:35  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Document: testgame tropical @ (by planetmaker)
17:33:03  <planetmaker> (basically file access)
17:33:34  <Ammler> NICE
17:34:52  <planetmaker> I never thought though that they were responsible for the "failure" of the compile :)
17:39:09  <planetmaker> lol
17:39:28  <planetmaker> a truck overtook another - and didn't really care to pass right through traffic from the other side
17:39:43  <planetmaker> I guess vehicle collision detection isn't quite 100% :)
18:04:06  <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
18:14:49  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 121: Feature: Add bubble truck, the last missing truck in toyland. (part of is... @ (by planetmaker)
18:16:36  <FooBar_> I decided to move all non-toyland stuff to 0.1.0-alpha6.
18:16:56  <FooBar_> If we ever get toyland done before those things, then we can just skip alpha6 :)
18:19:28  <planetmaker> :)
18:34:07  <yorick> redmine does not do any dependent issues or automatic closing?
18:35:21  <planetmaker> it does
18:36:18  <planetmaker>
18:36:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 122: Doc: update author overview html output script for alpha6 targets @ (by foobar)
18:36:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #320: Add readme file @ (by yorick)
18:37:06  <planetmaker> ^^ yorick
18:37:38  <planetmaker> though... Feature closes.
18:38:31  <planetmaker> hm. no. I thought it was changed
18:38:37  <yorick> but the dependent issues?
18:38:56  <planetmaker> dunno that
18:58:05  <Ammler> planetmaker:
18:58:30  <planetmaker> yes, I know :)
18:58:55  <planetmaker> [20:36]	<planetmaker>	hm. no. I thought it was changed <-- :)
18:59:20  <planetmaker> but as I'm not sure whether it's a good thing or not... I guess we should, though
19:02:04  <Ammler> I didn't because the guide does tell, it doesn.t
19:02:36  <planetmaker> which guide? F00bars?
19:05:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Wiki edit: Writing_Commit_Messages (#2) @ (by planetmaker)
19:08:08  <Ammler> ^
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19:20:57  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 123: Feature #124: toyland trucks complete with alignment @ (by planetmaker)
19:20:57  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #124 (Closed): Sprites 601:760 (160) - Road trucks @ (by planetmaker)
19:22:34  <planetmaker> funnily enough I start to like toyland :)
19:24:36  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 124: Change: mark the toyland trucks also done in the tracking table @ (by planetmaker)
19:24:48  <Ammler> opengfx toyland doesn't hurt
19:25:05  <Ammler> wow cratulation
19:25:14  <Ammler> g
19:26:09  <planetmaker> graphics is all Zephyris... I just put them in...
19:26:29  <planetmaker> bbl
20:40:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Generic NewGRF Makefile - Revision 13: Change: make verbosity a bit easier configurable and clean... @ (by planetmaker)
22:04:05  <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
22:06:48  <planetmaker> FooBar_: maybe you can update at some time?
22:08:41  <planetmaker> hm... it's more up2date than the last time I checked...
22:10:43  <Ammler> planetmaker: that was my job
22:10:51  <Ammler> oh, and good night here too.
22:10:57  <planetmaker> :)
22:11:12  <planetmaker> you do a good job! :)
22:11:25  <planetmaker> without you this whole thing wouldn't be possible.

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