Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 15th July 2009:
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01:33:33  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 76M)
01:33:33  <Brot6> Yes, but will I see the EASTER BUNNY in skintight leather at an IRON MAIDEN concert?
02:42:01  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #294: Sprite 4629 - Toyland Church (32bpp, 8bpp) @ (by athanasios)
02:49:01  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #331: Width of the letter 'x' @ (by athanasios)
05:05:01  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 137: Fix (r132): Sprite size was wrong for one stage @ (by planetmaker)
05:05:01  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 138: Doc: add full name as per request and add credits to the one who drew it ... @ (by planetmaker)
05:41:03  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #332: Toyland foundations @ (by planetmaker)
05:41:03  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #111 (Reopened): Sprites 4694:4694 (1) - Toyland: Statue @ (by planetmaker)
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06:04:05  <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
06:42:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 139: Feature [#112]: Piggybank for toyland climate. (Graphics by AndersI) @ (by planetmaker)
06:44:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #112 (Closed): Sprites 4695:4698 (4) - Toyland: Tea pot and piggy bank @ (by planetmaker)
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07:21:46  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 140: Change: Beautify make output a bit @ (by planetmaker)
07:22:46  <ODM> morni
07:35:12  <planetmaker> salut
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08:17:39  <ODM> salut is the new hello?:)
08:18:17  <yorick> salut, ODM
08:18:34  <ODM> salut yorick
08:18:48  <yorick> ni hao?
08:18:58  <yorick> ni hao ma*
08:20:47  <ODM> goeiemorgen!
08:21:21  <yorick> morgen!
08:22:53  <ODM> aah yorick is a dutchie too
08:22:57  <ODM> once again we rule!
08:23:13  <yorick> :)
08:23:23  <yorick> dutchies are going to take over the world again!
08:23:31  <yorick> starting with reclaiming New York!
08:23:54  <ODM> yeah.
08:24:00  <ODM> and germany.
08:25:00  <yorick> meh
08:25:01  <Webster> Title: List of countries by size of armed forces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at
08:25:16  <yorick> we can take on guatemala
08:25:23  <yorick> and congo
08:25:42  <yorick> possibly uzekistan
08:26:14  <yorick> china has the biggest active army :(
08:26:22  <ODM> yup
08:26:32  <ODM> barbados sounds nice btw
08:27:55  <ODM> wut, men raam trilde:S
08:28:31  <ODM> woops dutch
08:28:31  <ODM> dan me
08:28:54  <ODM> my window shook:S
08:29:45  <yorick> how come
08:29:57  <ODM> dunno
08:29:59  <yorick> you live in leeuwardem?
08:30:03  <ODM> my first guess was, something exploded?
08:30:04  <ODM> nop why?
08:30:11  <yorick> F16s
08:30:23  <ODM> utrecht area
08:31:28  * yorick fixes up dutch flag on
08:31:34  <yorick> linker brillenglas ;)
08:31:45  <ODM> uh?
08:32:26  <yorick> yes,, everyone can draw on it
08:33:32  <ODM> ooh that stuff
08:33:50  <yorick> that's the first step on taking ovr the world
08:33:53  <yorick> taking over drawball
08:34:01  <ODM> lol
08:34:07  <ODM> its just odd:D
09:00:33  <Ammler> XeryusTC: pong
09:00:50  <XeryusTC> wow awesome reaction time :P
09:01:12  <Ammler> hehe
09:07:09  <ODM> wow
09:07:10  <ODM> so fast
09:08:59  <Ammler> <XeryusTC> [01:31:45] Ammler: ping
09:13:55  <XeryusTC> but well, my question isn't valid anymore :P
09:14:00  <XeryusTC> since i solved it myself somewhat :P
09:14:47  <Ammler> :-o
09:35:45  <yorick> heh, these things are REALLY good for my avKPS
09:35:52  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 332: - Feature #320: add readme file @ (by yorick)
09:35:52  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #320 (Closed): Add readme file @ (by yorick)
09:36:01  <yorick> I made 1.06 avKPS between 15:49 and 21:02 yesterday
09:46:52  <yorick> Ammler: is make bundle_tar needed for nightlies?
09:47:03  <Ammler> no
09:47:10  <Ammler> bundle_zip
09:47:13  <yorick> the opengfx nightlies are all in tar?
09:47:24  <Ammler> yes
09:47:33  <Ammler> that will change
09:47:54  <yorick> ok :)
09:48:14  <yorick> can you try to compile a WAS nightly?
09:48:41  <yorick> you just need to set Makefile.local to include your zip utility and possibly another bundlefile name
09:49:33  <Ammler> after lunch, I will :-)
09:50:49  <yorick> the bundles are currently called "was-dev-r{rev}.zip"
10:02:47  <Hirundo> does anyone know what the /* $Id$ */ at the top of each file is for?
10:03:52  <XeryusTC> hmm, wow
10:04:01  <XeryusTC> i did quite some work on the ladder site already i suddenly notice :o
10:04:07  <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
10:04:48  <Ammler> yorick: you might want to do that ^
10:05:16  <Ammler> so can continue on was, also if the devzone would go crash.
10:07:54  <yorick> Ammler: the devzone would not go crash :D
10:08:14  <yorick> and I think hg backs up enough on itself
10:08:23  <yorick> everyone has a full copy of the repo
10:08:46  <yorick> Hirundo: it's some svn keyword trick
10:10:24  <Hirundo> do I need to add it to files I add to the repo?
10:10:53  <yorick> Hirundo: if you want them to go into trunk, I guess
10:11:16  <Hirundo> ah I think i got it:
10:11:17  <Webster> Title: Keyword Substitution (at
10:11:27  <Hirundo> svn:keywords is set to Id for this reason
10:12:03  <yorick> but the keywords are not substituted when using hg convert
10:18:35  <yorick> Ammler: I also dislike bitbucket
10:20:30  <XeryusTC> Ammler: does your php report notice warnings?
10:25:10  * yorick bundles repo
10:25:53  <yorick> Ammler: you don't backup your server yourself? :p
10:29:08  <Ammler> yorick: just the redmine data
10:29:33  <Ammler> system backup only once per month
10:30:22  <yorick> hmm, hg bundle?
10:31:58  <Ammler> hg bundle is what push/pull does
10:32:35  <Ammler> the idea of bitbucket is, you could continue the work
10:32:42  <Ammler> not just backup
10:33:03  * yorick dislikes bitbucket
10:33:11  <Ammler> well, there are others
10:33:19  <Ammler> i.e. google code
10:33:54  <yorick> google code doesn't do hg
10:34:01  <Ammler> of course it does.
10:34:17  <Ammler> does too
10:35:45  <yorick> then it's new
10:36:09  <yorick> and it is :)
10:36:10  <Webster> Title: The Google Code Blog: Mercurial support for Project Hosting on Google Code (at
10:37:14  <Ammler> we should sometime rename your was
10:38:22  <yorick> Ammler: we should?
10:38:40  <planetmaker> was was a bad project abbreviation? ;)
10:38:50  <Ammler> worldairlineset -> worldairlinerset
10:41:20  <Ammler> Can't read sprites/pcx/boeing/b737-200/EuropeanAirCharter.pcx: No such file or directory
10:41:54  <planetmaker> :D
10:43:03  <Ammler> planetmaker: first time someone runs make with case sensitivity ;-)
10:43:48  <planetmaker> :)
10:44:15  <planetmaker> Though I commited a capital PCX I paid great attention to have the same in the source, too :)
10:44:27  <Ammler> yorick: don't you have access to real os?
10:44:40  <yorick> Ammler: my nice wifi switch wouldn't work
10:44:46  <yorick> and neither would my bluetooth
10:45:09  <Ammler> when did you try the last time?
10:45:12  <planetmaker> Well... I guess some renaming or code-editing is in store?
10:45:22  <yorick> Ammler: other people tried
10:46:09  <Ammler> everything works here since around 2 years.
10:46:31  <Ammler> can't imagine, there is still hardware around, not working with suse.
10:46:33  <planetmaker> I guess it really depends upon the exact hardware details.
10:46:44  <yorick> Ammler: laptops ;)
10:47:26  <Ammler> oh laptops, indeed
10:47:47  <yorick> also some reports that the IRdA port didn't work
10:47:56  <Ammler> had some troubles with simens, but that is a "never again" manufacturer anyway.
10:48:03  <yorick> and yes, some people still use IRdA :D
10:48:26  <Ammler> dunno, if my laptop has that.
10:48:36  <Ammler> I use a bit BT
10:49:08  <yorick> acer ferrari 5002WLMiB here
10:50:50  <Ammler> yes, acer is another blacklisted label ;-)
10:51:24  <yorick> but it does have ATI :)
10:51:42  <planetmaker> why do you blacklist those, Ammler ? (Just curious)
10:51:48  <yorick> apart from the fact there are lines of dead pixels on the left of the screen
10:51:54  <yorick> and the lines are slowly getting wider?
10:52:16  <yorick> and the manual states there is absolutely no warranty on areas of dead pixels
10:52:19  <yorick> :)
10:52:24  <Ammler> planetmaker: experience from friends and company.
10:52:47  <planetmaker> ok...
10:52:48  <Ammler> the worst is simens, then acer.
10:53:11  <Ammler> with, simens, I have personally bad experience :-)
10:53:29  <planetmaker> :)
10:53:50  <Ammler> and currently, the best is dell, long time ago I used ibm
10:54:12  <Ammler> hp is fine, if you don't use it much.
10:54:14  <planetmaker> yeah... but it's not IBM anymore :(
10:54:39  <Ammler> thinkpad was the last laptop, I sold after using :-)
10:54:53  <Ammler> now, you can only trash them.
10:54:59  <ODM> ohno acer:(
10:55:24  * yorick tries preprocessor magic that would simplify translation
10:55:52  <yorick> yes, ODM, ohno preprocessor magic:(
10:56:40  <Ammler> a 10 year old dell inspiron is still in use, the current dell laptop runns permanently and everything works with suse witout any hacks.
10:57:11  <ODM> dell laptops are good indeed, afaik
10:57:15  <ODM> and acers fall apart:p
10:58:11  <yorick> yes, at least this one does
10:58:16  <yorick> alienware looks nice
10:58:17  <Ammler> Toshiba is also a fine hardware, but I don't have many of those.
11:00:43  <yorick> ooh, it works
11:00:43  <yorick> *O*
11:00:47  <yorick> :) :) :-)
11:01:09  <yorick> yay yay jippie yay yay jippie jippie yay yay
11:02:15  <ODM> woo
11:02:23  <yorick> yes, it works
11:02:54  * yorick dances
11:03:49  <ODM> such cheer
11:05:03  <yorick> quite!
11:05:45  <ODM> and dance!
11:05:57  <ODM> o>-<
11:05:59  <ODM> o/-<
11:06:02  <ODM> o\-<
11:06:07  <ODM> etc:P
11:06:20  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #333: Nightly compile failed @ (by Ammler)
11:07:03  <yorick> ooh, they're going to install fiber
11:09:43  <yorick> Ammler: is that the only failure?
11:10:06  <Ammler> well, it might be, if you fix that, that there will be another
11:10:27  <Ammler> shouldn't the dependency check alert that?
11:10:43  <yorick> Ammler: the dependency check is case insensitive
11:10:55  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 333: - Change: heavily simplify translation @ (by yorick)
11:11:05  <Ammler> why?
11:11:06  <yorick> and that was my reason to dance :)
11:11:13  <yorick> I don't know why :p
11:12:07  <yorick> I pushed the fix for #333
11:12:38  <ODM> translation as in language, or geometry:P
11:13:12  <yorick> ODM: you were too lazy to click the link to show the directory 01strings?
11:13:31  <ODM> yes
11:13:45  <Ammler> isn't "\wx" hex?
11:13:57  <yorick> Ammler: it is
11:14:07  <yorick> but the one who thought of the ids didn't know
11:14:37  <yorick> so when they're at 99, they'l go back to 0A-0F, 1A-1F, ...
11:15:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 334: - Fix #333: EuropeanAircharter without capital C @ (by yorick)
11:15:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #333 (Closed): Nightly compile failed @ (by yorick)
11:15:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Java Game Logfile Analyzer - Revision 3: Fixed activities merge. @ (by ODM)
11:15:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12638: [IS] Add: /* $Id$ */ to the top of each new file (infras... @ (by Hirundo)
11:15:42  <yorick> Ammler: retry compile?
11:16:01  <Ammler> make: *** No rule to make target `sprites/nfo/blimps/', needed by `was.pnfo'.  Stop.
11:17:13  <yorick> Ammler: try make recompile...
11:18:01  <yorick> or first make clean, I think makefile.dep is broken
11:18:46  <Ammler> ups, ignore next
11:19:09  <yorick> ?
11:19:29  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #333 (Reopened): Nightly compile failed @ (by Ammler)
11:19:38  <Ammler> no, don't ignore ;)
11:20:29  <Ammler> well, we had the same toubles with 2cc ;-)
11:21:13  <planetmaker> yorick, Ammler  there's an 'o' missing in the filename...
11:21:31  <yorick> planetmaker, ?
11:21:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #333 (Reopened): Nightly compile failed @ (by Ammler)
11:21:47  <yorick> again?
11:21:48  <planetmaker>', nee...
11:22:14  <planetmaker> (quoted from Ammler's quotation)
11:22:40  <yorick> yes, Makefile.dep was probably corrupt
11:22:48  <yorick> I pushed a fix, ammler
11:22:53  <yorick> try again :-P
11:23:35  <Ammler> > make bundle
11:23:37  <Ammler> make: *** No rule to make target `bundle'.  Stop.
11:23:46  <planetmaker> a whopping 1.5MB grf is the result...
11:24:07  <yorick> do not do make bundle
11:24:11  <yorick> make bundle isn't there :D
11:24:24  <Ammler> make: *** No rule to make target `sprites/nfo/blimps/', needed by `was.pnfo'.  Stop.
11:24:35  <yorick> heh, make clean again :D
11:24:36  <Ammler> I made "make" and then make bundle
11:24:45  <Ammler> make bundle_zip
11:24:52  <Ammler> I thought, you fixed?
11:24:54  <planetmaker> make clean helps indeed
11:24:59  <yorick> just try make clean && make bundle_zip
11:25:07  <yorick> the dependency fails somehow
11:25:12  <yorick> lets blame planetmaker
11:25:15  <planetmaker> ingo@devera:~/ottd/grfdev/worldairlineset> make bundle_zip
11:25:15  <planetmaker> make: *** No rule to make target `sprites/nfo/blimps/', needed by `was.pnfo'.  Stop.
11:25:23  * planetmaker blames yorick 
11:25:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 335: - Fix easyjet name @ (by yorick)
11:25:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Java Game Logfile Analyzer - Revision 4: Added filename parameter to report command. @ (by ODM)
11:25:45  <planetmaker> make bundle_zip must not fail, if you did make before
11:25:56  <Ammler> oh, you fixed only the case sensitivity error
11:25:57  <Ammler> ok
11:26:31  <planetmaker> ingo@devera:~/ottd/grfdev/worldairlineset> make clean && make bundle_zip
11:26:31  <planetmaker>  <-- works
11:26:34  <ODM> 2 updates on one day, im on fire.
11:26:46  <planetmaker> but make clean && make && make bundle_zip gives mentioned error
11:26:51  <yorick> yes
11:26:56  <planetmaker> baaaad! ;)
11:27:08  <yorick> it somehow generates that dep
11:27:14  * planetmaker could offer a quadruple tested makefile system :P
11:27:39  <planetmaker> which also would need no adaption to the compile farm ;)
11:27:49  <yorick> I know, baad me
11:28:06  <yorick> and planetmaker, I don't like your filenames
11:28:12  <yorick> you start with pnfo and convert to nfo
11:28:16  <planetmaker> they're configurable.
11:28:19  <yorick> I start with nfo and convert to pnfo
11:28:20  <Brot6> was nightly compile complete but still some make errors Yorick!
11:28:22  <planetmaker> and the cf doesn't care about it.
11:28:44  <planetmaker> filenames are no argument - it's just the contents of a variable
11:29:06  <yorick> oh I think I know why it cuts the o
11:29:19  <planetmaker> it's the same argument like "I don't like OpenTTD because you build intercontinentals in your game"
11:29:20  <Brot6> (
11:29:50  <yorick> your preprocessor generates linux linefeeds
11:29:55  <yorick> mine generates windows linefeeds
11:29:57  <yorick> baaad preprocessor
11:30:07  <planetmaker> of course it does. That's the standard.
11:30:22  <Ammler> [13:28] <yorick> I start with nfo and convert to pnfo <-- UGLY
11:30:52  <planetmaker> especially as the source files are no nfo
11:31:01  <yorick> well you're a towel!
11:31:17  <ODM> ohno a fight!
11:31:30  <Ammler> :-)
11:31:31  <planetmaker> yes. Never without towel
11:31:33  <yorick> planetmaker: \r\n to \n sed scripty please :-)
11:31:59  <planetmaker> I don't have one. Your editor should suffice, though
11:32:11  <yorick> planetmaker: no, generated files are wrong ;)
11:32:28  <planetmaker> :)
11:33:14  <yorick> ammler: does the server have dos2unix installed?
11:33:15  <Ammler> yorick: I would also suggest to put the bundle in a subdirectory before zip
11:33:31  <Ammler> it shbould, else it can be installed
11:34:03  <Ammler> currently, it doesn't have.
11:34:14  <yorick> I guess 's/^M$//' should work
11:34:22  <planetmaker> haha :) I see exactly all those arguments again :)
11:34:39  <planetmaker> I guess we had quite a way till we arrived at the make targets as we have now in 2ccTrainSet and OpenGFX :)
11:34:43  <ODM> heh, i love how my eclipse just kills itself when i try to open a large log:D
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11:36:21  * yorick tries sed scripts
11:37:00  <yorick> it's a bit overkill to use unix2dos to convert line feeds
11:37:21  <Ammler> please add target bundle and bundle_zip like firs
11:37:22  <yorick> but lets do that :P
11:37:36  <yorick> Ammler: what should bundle do?
11:37:50  <planetmaker> create the dir
11:37:55  <Ammler> make the folder and put the needed files
11:38:00  <planetmaker> with all files which need packing / shipping
11:38:03  <Ammler> and bundle_zip does zip those
11:38:08  <planetmaker> basically the whole thing unpacked
11:38:13  <Ammler> like openttd itself, btw.
11:38:28  <planetmaker> yup. Same meanings as OpenTTD
11:38:42  * yorick is getting sick of linefeeds
11:39:07  <planetmaker> please vomit elsewhere :)
11:39:22  <Ammler> whats the issue with linefeeds?
11:39:31  <Ammler> the readme looks fine here
11:39:58  <yorick> yes
11:40:08  <yorick> but I need to strip the last line from a file
11:40:16  <yorick> I did that using head -c -2
11:40:18  <yorick> works on windows
11:40:23  <yorick> does 1 too much on linux
11:42:54  <Ammler> You really call the set just "WAS"?
11:43:14  <yorick> Ammler: what's wrong with WAS
11:43:22  <yorick> there's FIRS
11:43:27  <Ammler> well, I don't care, it is just :-)
11:44:05  <Ammler> hmm, FIRS is just the short
11:44:15  <yorick> so is WAS
11:44:16  <planetmaker> it's like GNU ;)
11:44:20  <yorick> WorldAirlinerSet
11:44:48  <yorick> FIRS stands for FIRS Industry Replacement Set
11:45:00  <yorick> and probably Full Industry Replacement Set, but they didn't like that
11:45:29  <yorick> we can make it WAS Airliner Set if you want
11:47:31  <yorick> pushed linefeeds
11:47:44  <yorick> basically makes sure they are always unix style
11:50:47  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 336: - Fix: Makefile.dep linefeeds... @ (by yorick)
11:53:43  <yorick> Ammler: try again? :p
11:54:31  <ODM> hm at a bit in the source of commands (openttd itself), where functionparameters are passed, p1 and p2 are commented as "see #commandproc"
11:55:18  <ODM> havent found any file with commandproc though, does anyone know where to look?
11:55:37  <planetmaker> it's not one proc, but it can be many - for each docommand there's one.
11:55:39  <yorick> ODM: isn't command proc in the _cmd files?
11:56:26  <ODM> so every command has its own command_cmd file? and ther eit is
11:57:08  <yorick> some are in the same
11:57:19  <ODM> i get the idea, thanks:
11:57:43  <ODM> need to know what the p1 and p2 parameters mean for some commands like rail and landchange
11:58:36  <yorick> rail_cmd.cpp
11:58:38  <yorick> terraform_cmd.cpp
11:58:44  <ODM> yup, found em:)
12:01:03  <ODM> exactly what i was looking for
12:01:13  <ODM> but ill start off simple^^
12:01:37  <yorick> planetmaker: what is wrong with cp $(BUNDLE_FILES) $@
12:01:47  <yorick> instead of for i in $(BUNDLE_FILES); do cp $$i $@; done
12:03:16  <Ammler> maybe folders?
12:03:33  <Ammler> hmm, should work too
12:12:20  <yorick> pushed make bundle
12:13:31  <yorick> Ammler: do the nightlies work now? :)
12:14:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 337: - Add: make bundle @ (by yorick)
12:14:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #333 (Closed): Nightly compile failed @ (by yorick)
12:14:42  <ODM> hm, i wonder why ttd counts tiles from 1 till size-2
12:14:49  <ODM> apparently theres a 1 tile edge around
12:15:21  <yorick> ODM: void tiles
12:18:17  <ODM> meh, doesnt matter for the map, ill convert the standard way^^
12:19:07  * Ammler needs now to install dos2unix?
12:19:14  <Ammler> why doesn't pm need that?
12:19:23  <Ammler> planetmaker: ^
12:19:38  <yorick> Ammler: planetmaker doesn't use makedepend
12:19:49  <Ammler> ok
12:20:02  <Ammler> well, zypper is running...
12:20:25  <yorick> I guess dos2unix could do it with a sed script too...
12:20:33  <yorick> but it doesn't seem to work
12:22:11  <Ammler> well, pm might need that later too, so no issue to install it :-)
12:24:30  <yorick> but maybe gcc would output unix linefeeds when given unix input
12:25:54  <Ammler> hmm
12:26:14  <Ammler> doesn't the vcs automatically change those things?
12:26:37  <yorick> Ammler: mercurial has some convert extension, but windows users need to install that
12:26:47  <yorick> and you windows users in general...
12:27:00  <Ammler> know*
12:28:47  <yorick> yes
12:28:56  <yorick> I accidenally the whole thing :)
12:29:33  <Ammler> skipped*
12:31:32  <Ammler> yorick: make bundle shouldn't have revision in the folder
12:32:06  <Ammler> pm uses make release for that, which we don't need usually.
12:32:23  <Ammler> openttd can't handle that
12:32:42  <yorick> ah ok :)
12:32:48  <Ammler> (except for base graphics)
12:33:16  <yorick> I'll fix :p
12:33:21  <Ammler> you need to replace the old grf, else openttd might use the old instead of the new after reapply
12:33:44  <Ammler> that is what sucks on bananas, btw.
12:34:08  <Ammler> but I am sure, you know that ;-)
12:34:27  <yorick> fixed the thing
12:35:14  <Ammler> hmm, do we need unix2dos, too?
12:35:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 338: - Fix: wrong bundle dir name @ (by yorick)
12:36:32  <yorick> no, unix2dos isn't needed
12:36:33  <yorick> ;)
12:38:58  <Brot6> was nightly compile succeeded(?) without error. :-) grat yorick.
12:39:46  <Brot6> Hmm, make clean doesn't clean proper anymore, the folder was-dev is still there.
12:40:54  <yorick> should it remove the zip too?
12:41:05  <Ammler> yes
12:41:12  <Ammler> well, it isn't there anymore
12:41:17  <Ammler> as I moved it to the web
12:41:27  <Ammler> but theoretically, it could
12:42:08  <Ammler>
12:43:31  <Ammler> btw, a nice feature would be to have somewhere the md5sum of the grf
12:43:41  <Ammler> pm does include that in the readme
12:51:45  <yorick> btw, ammler, should the readme be in windows format?
12:53:11  <yorick> oh, cat manages to convert it to linux format
13:03:42  * yorick lunch
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13:29:12  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #329: BAe146-300 QT TNT @ (by Beardie27)
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14:04:05  <Brot6> is2: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
14:08:07  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 339: Added a320-200 Aeroflot Png To repo @ (by Beardie27)
14:11:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #334: Create A320-200 Aeroflot Pcx and Code Plane @ (by Beardie27)
14:24:04  <Ammler> how do I define the Makefile vars without a .local?
14:24:27  <Ammler> possible to bypass those with ENV VARS?
14:25:38  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Java Game Logfile Analyzer - Revision 5: Removed global static. @ (by ODM)
14:30:00  <Ammler> maybe, we should add a ./configure :-)
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14:51:01  <yorick> ammler: looks like you might have to install unix2dos, too :-(
14:59:10  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #326: Nightly builds @ (by yorick)
15:10:05  <Ammler> yorick: it is
15:10:25  <yorick> Ammler: you installed unix2dos and dos2unix?
15:10:31  <Ammler> yes
15:10:34  <yorick> ok :)
15:10:52  <Ammler> can you check the readme from opengfx and firs
15:11:30  <Ammler> it might be, our dear windows users all don't use the good old notepad.
15:12:04  <Ammler> hmm
15:12:14  * yorick updates firs
15:12:25  <Ammler> no
15:12:36  <Ammler> oh
15:12:37  <Ammler> hmm
15:12:45  <Ammler> could you check a opengfx nightly
15:12:56  <yorick> I'll check firs first
15:12:59  <Ammler> first nightlies are made with windows
15:13:25  <yorick> firs nightly made with windows: license ok, readme broken
15:13:30  <Ammler>
15:13:43  <ODM> hmm linear scaling doesnt work well on commands^^
15:14:10  <yorick> opengfx nightlies: readme broken
15:14:16  <yorick> license ok
15:14:25  <yorick> changelog also broken
15:16:42  <Ammler> thanks yorick
15:16:54  <Ammler> it is just the wrong linebreak, I guess?
15:17:01  <yorick> yes
15:17:21  <yorick> it's caused by replacing the md5 and revision, I think
15:17:41  <yorick> becuase the readme is ok on was before it does that
15:19:16  <Ammler> so it does convert to \n only somewhere
15:20:00  <Ammler> I guess, it is aceptable to use \n\r for unix too
15:20:34  * yorick afk
15:20:34  <Ammler> on the other side, windows users don't read readmes :-)
15:20:41  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 340: - Fix: convert readme/license file to dos when making bundle @ (by yorick)
15:20:41  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #326 (Closed): Nightly builds @ (by yorick)
15:29:50  <yorick> Ammler: when are the nightlies usually built?
15:29:52  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Java Game Logfile Analyzer - Revision 6: First bits of activitymap added. @ (by ODM)
15:29:52  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 341: Updated TT With New Greyscale Column and 717 Data + Removed L... @ (by Beardie27)
15:34:20  <Ammler> yorick: 18:18 CEST
15:34:27  <yorick> ok :)
15:34:42  <Ammler> but today, It might not do with was
15:34:54  <Ammler> but I will finish it today
15:35:10  <yorick> ok
15:36:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 342: Updated 747 Pngs + Added 747-400M Png @ (by Beardie27)
15:40:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 343: Made Error on r342 747-200/400/400D Pngs Now Added @ (by Beardie27)
16:03:01  <Ammler> hmm, how should I solve the issue with the need of Makefile.local?
16:03:14  <yorick> Ammler: issue?
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16:13:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 344: Sorted Out B737-900ER NFO and added Pcx @ (by Beardie27)
16:14:38  <ODM> hm, any guesses on under what file dynamitecommand would be?^^
16:18:02  <Brot6> OpenGFX: update from r134 to r140, starting nightly compile
16:18:27  <Brot6> OpenGFX: nightlies compile finished with 1 errors:
16:43:16  <planetmaker> ODM: maybe misc?
16:44:06  <ODM> nop:D thats loans and president stuff it seems
16:48:55  <ODM> but i know how the command works and how its called, good enough for now i guess:)
17:18:24  <Hirundo> for the actual execution of the *KABOOM* command, look at the cleartile proc in _tile_type_procs
17:22:20  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 345: Changes to CT 747 @ (by Beardie27)
17:24:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 346: Added All 747 pcx files @ (by Beardie27)
17:36:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 348: Added Renamed Folders 747 Pcxs @ (by Beardie27)
17:36:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 347: Removed Three 747 Pcxs Folders for Renaming @ (by Beardie27)
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18:26:21  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #271 (Closed): Sort Plane Costs @ (by Beardie27)
18:26:21  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #229: IL 62 grayscale @ (by Beardie27)
18:29:44  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #223: A380-900 Greyscale @ (by Beardie27)
18:39:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 349: Updated #334 - Added Aeroflot A320-200 Pcx @ (by Beardie27)
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20:23:48  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 350: Added in the Aeroflot A320 @ (by Frank)
20:33:04  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #285 (Assigned): Draw some Tu154 liveries @ (by simozzz_AK)
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21:24:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 141: Fix (r132): replace the correct tree, but not an existing one @ (by planetmaker)
21:24:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 142: Feature [DZ#106]: Add upside-down cone tree, finishing all toyland trees @ (by planetmaker)
21:26:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #106 (Closed): Sprites 1947:2009 (63) - Toyland: trees @ (by planetmaker)
21:44:41  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 143: Update #111 (r136): Improved graphics for the toyland statue @ (by planetmaker)
21:48:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 351: Added 747 Co-ordinate File, With Just 747-200 Co-ordinates Done @ (by Beardie27)
21:50:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #334 (Closed): Create A320-200 Aeroflot Pcx and Code Plane @ (by Beardie27)
22:04:05  <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
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22:30:53  <Beardie> Hello is Ammler Knocking About?
22:31:04  <Beardie> A Have A Question about PCX Files
22:32:41  <Beardie> Its Regarding somthing to do with they having to be 4timses bigger? or something?
22:38:59  <Ammler> Beardie: no
22:39:11  <Ammler> just the dimensions should be a factor of 4
22:39:20  <Beardie> the shtie area on the sheet?
22:39:23  <Beardie> White*
22:39:33  <Ammler> i.e. 100x40 not 97x33
22:39:44  <Ammler> yes
22:39:57  <Beardie> i see
22:40:12  <Beardie> well the thing is i would go back and change them all just
22:40:23  <Beardie> i am going to your country on friday and coming back in 2 weeks lol
22:40:35  <Ammler> nah, don't think, that is needed.
22:41:02  <Ammler> grfcodec can handle other dimensions just fine.
22:41:26  <Ammler> i had to do that for the SpriteAligner tool
22:42:19  <Beardie> ?
22:42:33  <Beardie> the factor of 4 thing is only needed for sprite allinger?
22:43:28  <Beardie> Ammler
22:43:57  <Ammler> no idea, it seems so.
22:44:29  <Ammler> you should ask foobar or tt-forums.
22:45:41  <Ammler> spritealigner rescales the sprties with 4, so it might be the reason.
22:48:56  <Beardie> o well i don;t use Sprite Alligner i do it manually
22:49:08  <Beardie> and typing FooBar_ might get his attention if he is here
22:50:34  <Beardie> At The Moment Ammler i am working on the biggest plane we have teh A380-900, 75 pixels wide and acrry upto a 1000pax, this thing is meant to be in production by 2014
22:51:25  <Ammler> FooBar_: is absent for a month
22:51:38  <Beardie> o lol, yet hes on the chat?
22:52:01  <Ammler> try /whois Foobar
22:52:19  <Ammler> (good irc clients would show you that.
22:52:48  <Ammler> it looks like becoming a nice set.
22:52:53  <Beardie> ===	FooBar_ <> “FooBar”
22:52:55  <Beardie> 	===	FooBar_: member of #openttdcoop.devzone
22:52:56  <Beardie> 	===	FooBar_: attached to “London, United Kingdom”
22:52:58  <Beardie> 	===	FooBar_ actually using host
22:53:00  <Beardie> 	---	End of WHOIS information for FooBar_.
22:53:02  <Beardie> Thanks
22:53:04  <Beardie> i get that above
22:53:29  <Ammler> [00:53] [Away] FooBar_ is away: Auto Away at Sun Jul 12 20:47:32 2009
22:53:40  <Beardie> We made the 757 which AV8 doesn't have and it looks alot better than the PLaneSet :)
22:53:45  <Beardie> ok cool
22:53:47  <Ammler> that is what my client tells me :-)
22:54:11  <Beardie> so nothing to worry about with the factor of 4 thing then?
22:54:15  <Ammler> from tomorrow on, the server should make nightlies for was like it does with opengfx.
22:54:26  <Beardie> i know thank you very much :)
22:54:35  <Ammler> Beardie: don't think so.
22:54:53  <Beardie> ok well i can;t worry about it i will be on holiday lol
22:55:13  <Ammler>
22:55:24  <Beardie> yes yorick showed me :)
23:10:55  <Beardie> See ya Ammler :)
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23:24:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 352: Updated #223 - More Work On A380-900 Geryscale @ (by Beardie27)
23:24:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Wiki edit: Wiki (#19) @ (by Beardie27)
23:24:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Wiki edit: Wiki (#20) @ (by Beardie27)
23:27:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Wiki edit: Readme (#1) @ (by Beardie27)
23:27:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Wiki edit: License (#1) @ (by Beardie27)
23:27:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Wiki edit: Wiki (#21) @ (by Beardie27)
23:32:07  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 353: Added 757-200/300 Pngs @ (by Beardie27)
23:33:46  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 354: Updated CT and TT With 757 Basic Info @ (by Beardie27)

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