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Why is everything RED?! 01:48:08 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #111: Sprites 4694:4694 (1) - Toyland: Statue @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/111#change-816 (by athanasios) 04:22:44 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #111: Sprites 4694:4694 (1) - Toyland: Statue @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/111#change-817 (by athanasios) 04:27:06 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #294: Sprite 4629 - Toyland Church (32bpp, 8bpp) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/294#change-818 (by athanasios) 05:13:17 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:56:11 *** yorick has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:02:41 <ODM> ohno yorick 09:05:45 <yorick> ohno a windws update 09:05:56 <yorick> telling me it's restarting in 3 min 36 sec 09:06:01 <yorick> so brb 09:06:05 *** yorick has quit IRC 09:15:41 *** yorick has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:15:45 <yorick> back :) 09:16:05 * yorick checks which updates have been installed 09:16:33 <yorick> security update... cumulative secutiy update fir activex killbits...malicious software removal tool 09:16:45 <yorick> update for windows mail junk email filter 09:16:54 <yorick> how boring 09:20:04 <ODM> the malicious software removal tool is bullshit:D 09:23:48 <yorick> it can remove blaster :D 09:27:48 <Ammler> windows is so stupid, it prefers to remove malicious software, instead of not allowing to install it. 09:29:27 <yorick> http://xkcd.com/463/ 09:29:28 <Webster> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Voting Machines (at xkcd.com) 09:31:29 <yorick> my taskbar has problems with autohiding... 09:32:39 <planetmaker> Ammler, you cannot stop a user being stupid... 09:32:43 <planetmaker> yes 09:32:44 <planetmaker> yes 09:32:45 <planetmaker> yes 09:32:47 <planetmaker> ups?! 09:33:06 <planetmaker> But cleaning up the stupidity is not too bad IMO 09:33:36 <ODM> stupidity is a disease! 09:33:40 * ODM is a bit ill:D 09:33:40 <yorick> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistadesktopui/thread/4dfffe0f-8474-456a-8a68-40cc9c45b2a3 <-- seems like I'm not the only one :D 09:33:46 <Webster> Title: Taskbar will not stay hidden in auto-hide (at social.technet.microsoft.com) 09:34:18 <planetmaker> ODM: it's a feature! 09:36:10 <ODM> hehe 09:39:58 <yorick> :o taskbar slapper worked :D 09:42:18 <yorick> when it doubt: use random exe files from internet 09:42:26 <ODM> heh 09:45:58 <yorick> jolteon/jonty-comp and antialiasing... 09:46:42 <ODM> jolteon? thats a pokemon:P 09:47:05 <yorick> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=44309&start=20 09:47:06 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - UK Bus Set (at www.tt-forums.net) 09:49:10 <ODM> ooh i remember AA from my raytracer 09:49:24 <yorick> !!! 09:49:58 <yorick> AA on sprites is making sure the edges don't look sharp by manually putting blended pixels on the edges 09:50:03 <yorick> not some checkbox 09:50:09 <ODM> yes i know:) 09:50:43 <ODM> although it seems abnormal, making an edgepixel a mix of the two colors on the sides makes it alot better 09:52:31 <yorick> alpha channel antialiasing is off course nicer for openttd, but that's only in 32bpp 10:00:49 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Java Game Logfile Analyzer - Revision 7: Continued activitymap. Logarithm scale added. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/loganalyzer/repository/revisions/7 (by ODM) 10:35:45 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Java Game Logfile Analyzer - Revision 8: Draws diagonals instead of squares for diagonal track. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/loganalyzer/repository/revisions/8 (by ODM) 11:08:09 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Java Game Logfile Analyzer - Revision 9: Updated commands used for map. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/loganalyzer/repository/revisions/9 (by ODM) 11:08:09 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Java Game Logfile Analyzer - Revision 10: Flipped map X-axis to match game. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/loganalyzer/repository/revisions/10 (by ODM) 11:08:49 <ODM> enough for now:) 11:16:17 <planetmaker> :) Making progress, eh? 11:17:20 <planetmaker> he... this Jolteon is IMO doing a remarkably good job at acting like a true jerk. 11:17:46 <Ammler> planetmaker: indeed, me is wondering, how that guy reached 2k posts 11:18:14 <planetmaker> he's the same in IRC 11:18:32 <planetmaker> he's a prime candidate for an ignore list. 11:18:49 <ODM> http://knappstein.nl/pics/secondactivitymap.png 11:18:58 <planetmaker> Abusing people simply for the reason that they don't immediately agree with his oh-so-great insights and opinions. 11:19:04 <Ammler> :-) 11:19:29 <ODM> it falls under being a twat 11:19:34 <ODM> so not allowed:D 11:32:30 <planetmaker> nice activity map 11:36:14 <XeryusTC> hmm, what is that logfile analyzer suppose to do? 11:36:34 <planetmaker> annoy you 11:36:52 <planetmaker> show that you're a lazy lurker :P 11:37:03 <XeryusTC> so it's actually more useful than you are :P 11:37:20 <planetmaker> exactly :) 11:53:12 <Ammler> [11:57] <Jolteon> just chmod 777 -R /* <-- says everything about him ;-) 12:01:29 <planetmaker> :O 12:26:56 <ODM> XeryusTC, it analyzes logfiles:P 12:26:59 <yorick> Ammler: when I click view on redmine with png files, it does the same as download? 12:27:08 <ODM> because it seemed fun to do, and stats are always nice 12:29:37 <Ammler> yorick: www.redmine.org 12:29:54 <yorick> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/changes/sprites/png/ATR/ATR42/42-500/%280%29Greyscale.png 12:30:10 <yorick> I guess it should do mime types somehow? 12:30:35 <planetmaker> doh... and I wonder why opengfx doesn't compile 12:30:51 <planetmaker> referencing pcx which I didn't add :P 12:30:58 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 144: Fix (r142): it's quite necessary to add the graphics files, too, if they ... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/144 (by planetmaker) 12:32:06 <yorick> Ammler: http://www.redmine.org/issues/2209 12:32:09 <Webster> Title: Redmine - Patch #2209: MIME type support for repository Entries - Redmine (at www.redmine.org) 12:33:26 <planetmaker> no wonder that my ratio of changes per commit is about half of that compared to f00bar 12:33:51 <Ammler> FooBar_: ^ ;-) 12:34:12 <yorick> foobar is on holiday 12:34:34 <Ammler> but he will read back the whole log, when he returns ;-) 12:34:44 <yorick> I wouldn't 12:34:48 <Ammler> :-D 12:36:02 <planetmaker> mehh... @ Ammler :P 12:36:08 <planetmaker> I mis-spelled on purpose :P 12:36:56 <yorick> hmm, would boeing 747 be large or small 12:37:06 <yorick> it's just the largest aircraft next to the airbus A380 12:37:16 <planetmaker> it's way smaller than A380 12:37:29 <Ammler> > patch -p0 < MimeType.patch 12:37:30 <yorick> biggest pax plane in the world 12:37:31 <Ammler> patching file app/controllers/repositories_controller.rb 12:37:32 <Ammler> Hunk #2 FAILED at 119. 12:37:34 <Ammler> 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file app/controllers/repositories_controller.rb.rej 12:37:36 <planetmaker> but way bigger than most others :) 12:37:36 <Ammler> (I am your slave :P) 12:37:43 <yorick> Ammler: DO NOT WANT 12:37:43 <planetmaker> yorick, nope. A380 is bigger 12:37:51 <yorick> planetmaker: yes, next to the A380 12:37:57 <yorick> A380 is biggest 12:38:02 <yorick> then boeing 747 12:38:02 <planetmaker> quite a bit behind it :) 12:38:10 <yorick> there's nothing in between 12:38:13 <yorick> except for belugas 12:38:20 <planetmaker> which is transport only 12:38:22 <Ammler> [14:36] <planetmaker> I mis-spelled on purpose <-- I highlighted on same reason :P 12:38:29 <yorick> :-) 12:38:30 <planetmaker> I know! ;) 12:39:16 <yorick> ammler: what's in the rej file? 12:39:21 <planetmaker> yorick, well... approx. bigger than Boing 777 or A300 is a big airplane, I think 12:39:32 <planetmaker> maybe even DC9 or DC10 12:39:41 <planetmaker> Ammler, rejected parts of a failed patch attempts 12:39:56 <yorick> boeing 747 is bigger than 777 12:40:04 <planetmaker> of course 12:40:08 <yorick> :) 12:40:08 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/repositories_controller.rb.rej 12:40:14 <planetmaker> I just defined the lower boundary of "big aircraft" 12:40:29 <Ammler> planetmaker: you think, I didn't know? 12:40:48 <planetmaker> I know you know :) 12:41:03 <yorick> Ammler: repositories_controller.rb too? 12:41:42 <Ammler> he, my os uses oocalc for rej files 12:43:07 <planetmaker> mine doesn't use anything... 12:43:59 <yorick> mine uses windows info tool for .nfo 12:44:05 <yorick> which then horribly fails 12:44:18 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/entry/app/controllers/repositories_controller.rb 12:44:24 <planetmaker> I taught my systems to use a text editor for them 12:44:50 <Ammler> maybe time to start patch queue 12:44:58 <planetmaker> hm? 12:45:03 <Ammler> for redmine :-) 12:45:04 <yorick> Ammler: I'm not allowed to view that ;) 12:45:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #336: Boeing 747-200 nfo @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/336 (by yorick) 12:45:38 <planetmaker> root / app / controllers / repositories_controller.rb <-- maybe sensible :P 12:45:51 <Ammler> yorick: again :P 12:46:01 <yorick> yep 12:46:57 <Ammler> http://www.redmine.org/issues/2209#note-4 12:46:58 <Webster> Title: Redmine - Patch #2209: MIME type support for repository Entries - Redmine (at www.redmine.org) 12:50:15 <yorick> Ammler: do I have commit access? :p 12:50:44 <Ammler> yes, but don't 12:51:13 <Ammler> that repo does convert daily the master repo 12:51:49 <Ammler> but feel free to make a patch issue 12:56:17 <yorick> ammer, I can open an issue at http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/issues/new 12:56:20 <yorick> ? 12:58:17 <yorick> opened it 12:59:23 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Feature #337: MIME type support for repository Entries @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/337 (by yorick) 13:08:54 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:16:31 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Feature #337: MIME type support for repository Entries @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/337#change-820 (by Ammler) 13:23:01 <yorick> Ammler: hmm, it doesn't seem to work 13:23:06 <yorick> are the mime types set? 13:24:41 <yorick> https://projects.littlestreamsoftware.com/projects/redmine-stuff-to-do <-- ooh, nicy pluginy! 13:24:43 <Webster> Title: Redmine - Stuff To Do Plugin - Overview - Little Stream Software (at projects.littlestreamsoftware.com) 13:25:52 <yorick> hmm, apps are crashing at random :( 13:25:59 <yorick> is not good 13:30:59 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 355: - Fix: number of liveries incorrect @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/355 (by yorick) 13:35:13 <Ammler> yorick: difference between that and issues? 13:36:16 <yorick> "allows a user to order and prioritize the issues they are doing into a specific order" 13:54:08 <planetmaker> looks like way over the head for volunteer projects. 13:54:28 <planetmaker> others can prioritize my tasks, if they pay me. But they need to do well. Starting at 100€ / h 13:54:52 <yorick> :D 13:54:59 <yorick> just remove the others then? 13:55:25 <planetmaker> not even my employer pays me that much right now :P 14:04:06 <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/opengfx/ initiated. 14:08:03 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:10:35 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:14:51 <yorick> andythenorth, PLEASE use a bouncer 14:15:02 <yorick> it's really annoying :( 14:16:08 <ODM> wait, you call once in an hour annoying?:P srsly:D 14:16:59 <yorick> ODM: yes, I get all excited that someone new joined 14:17:03 <yorick> and then "oh, it's him" 14:17:27 <ODM> sigh 14:19:47 <andythenorth> yorick: I'll just sack off IRC, it's easier. IRC is frankly a massive distraction from other stuff, but occasionally vital. planetmaker etc. pm me on the forums if there's anything to chat about. 14:20:01 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 14:20:11 <yorick> meh, I scared him away :( 14:21:56 <ODM> gj 14:22:16 <yorick> :-(* 14:22:22 <planetmaker> congratz. 14:23:04 <planetmaker> though you're right with the principle complaint 15:30:20 <yorick> Ammler: is it me or is the repo at IS REALLY SLOW 15:37:12 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 356: - Update readme file for unix2dos and dos2unix @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/356 (by yorick) 16:07:43 <Ammler> it is you 16:10:14 <yorick> ok :) 16:10:49 <yorick> Ammler: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository ? 16:10:56 <yorick> it takes like 15 seconds to load 16:11:01 <yorick> which is relatively slow 16:12:00 <planetmaker> 7 16:12:15 <yorick> :( 16:12:40 <planetmaker> I got direct Gigabit access to the backbone :P 16:12:51 <yorick> oh 16:12:56 <yorick> :( 16:14:49 * yorick installing fasterfox lite 16:15:26 <yorick> http://pastebin.com/d700f7318 <-- WTF 16:15:35 <yorick> I have to agree to that to install :( 16:16:59 <planetmaker> so what? 16:17:16 <yorick> it makes no sense 16:17:33 <yorick> and when I agree, it says invalid hash, download corrupt 16:18:02 <planetmaker> it doesn't make sense? In what way makes a request for donations no sense? 16:18:58 <yorick> in the "Save money as well as your life, consider a safe yet satisfying cigarette alternative at: www.GetGreenSmoke.com" way 16:19:01 <Ammler> hmm, do we need a donate button for the devzone? 16:19:16 <yorick> Ammler: would be nice, but don't expect me to click it :) 16:19:57 <Ammler> well, it would be a requirement for dutch members 16:20:18 <Ammler> as they are mostly rich. 16:20:28 <yorick> no they're not 16:20:51 <yorick> also, foobar and odm :) 16:21:11 <Ammler> in your age, I didn't have my own PC :P 16:21:44 <yorick> there were no pcs back then :) 16:21:54 <Ammler> :-D 16:22:08 <planetmaker> the Netherlands are rich. They have the 18th highest GDP per capita in the world 16:22:16 <planetmaker> https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/NL.html 16:22:18 <Webster> Title: CIA - The World Factbook -- NetherlandsCIA - The World FactbookCIA - The World Factbook (at www.cia.gov) 16:22:33 <yorick> you're spoiling it :( 16:22:37 <planetmaker> 40k$US per year and person :) 16:23:30 <planetmaker> which is about 6k$US more than the average German has 16:24:30 <planetmaker> and just the same as the average Swiss person has :) - also 40k$US per year and capita 16:25:20 <yorick> planetmaker, just becuase there are more of you 16:25:52 <planetmaker> because there are more, each person earns less? What kind of logic is that? 16:26:06 <yorick> moar poor people 16:26:07 <planetmaker> I found my own state and should earn as much as the whole Netherlands totaled? 16:26:35 <planetmaker> yeah. Which kinda states that Dutch are richt :) 16:26:38 <planetmaker> *rich :) 16:27:20 <yorick> maybe dutch has more social laws? 16:27:47 <planetmaker> GDP is what the overall economy of a country earns. 16:28:06 <planetmaker> got nothing to do with social laws or such 16:28:26 <yorick> and we dutch people need to pay a lot 16:28:27 <planetmaker> it's a quite good measure for the wealth of a nation :) 16:28:30 <yorick> taxes 16:28:48 <planetmaker> poor chap. Don't expect to pay more than the average European 16:28:52 <ODM> im not rich:( 16:28:54 <yorick> see 16:35:39 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 357: - Updated #336: basic nfo for boeing 747-200 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/357 (by yorick) 16:36:16 <Ammler> @rss announce trac 16:36:16 <Webster> Ammler: The operation succeeded. 16:37:02 <Ammler> @rss annoucne 16:37:05 <Ammler> @rss announce 16:37:05 <Webster> Ammler: trac 16:38:46 <yorick> mingw doesn't have dos2unix and unix2dos by default :o 16:39:26 <Ammler> oh 16:40:53 <planetmaker> I didn't get it... why is it needed? 16:41:12 <Ammler> the readmes aren't windows compatible 16:41:34 <planetmaker> hm, ok 16:41:43 <Ammler> also on opengfx and firs 16:41:45 <planetmaker> what about sed to remedy it 16:43:05 <Ammler> well, yorick asked for dos2unix/unix2dos, as a slave I do what you guys order. 16:43:34 * planetmaker pats Ammler :) 16:43:48 <planetmaker> you must be one of those expensive ones... 16:44:14 <planetmaker> ... dunno Caesar's slave - supplier's name anymore ;) 16:44:29 <yorick> planetmaker: I tried a sed script, I can't get it to work, could you try 16:44:30 <planetmaker> But only best quality 16:44:50 <Ammler> yorick, what did you try? 16:44:59 <yorick> sed 's/$/\r$/' 16:45:09 <yorick> but it replaces every newline with r$ 16:45:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #338: A320-200 Aeroflot Flashes @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/338 (by Beardie27) 16:46:08 <planetmaker> # IN DOS ENVIRONMENT: convert Unix newlines (LF) to DOS format. 16:46:08 <planetmaker> sed "s/$//" # method 1 16:46:08 <planetmaker> sed -n p # method 2 16:46:22 <planetmaker> http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt 16:46:41 <planetmaker> # IN UNIX ENVIRONMENT: convert Unix newlines (LF) to DOS format. 16:46:41 <planetmaker> sed "s/$/`echo -e \\r`/" # command line under ksh 16:46:41 <planetmaker> sed 's/$'"/`echo \\r`/" # command line under bash 16:46:41 <planetmaker> sed "s/$/`echo \\r`/" # command line under zsh 16:46:41 <planetmaker> sed 's/$/\r/' # gsed 3.02.80 or higher 16:47:01 <yorick> how about makefiles? 16:47:10 <planetmaker> you can use that in makefiles... 16:47:14 <Ammler> I guess, we could use \n\r for all? 16:47:30 <planetmaker> sed is part of mingw/msys 16:47:39 <Ammler> as I wouldn't like to make special release just for the readme 16:47:46 <planetmaker> ^ sure 16:48:03 <Ammler> the ^M does only show up on vi 16:49:29 <yorick> the m is a \r 16:49:36 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 358: Added Livery Text Line For A320-200 Aerflot @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/358 (by Beardie27) 16:51:22 <yorick> planetmaker: I tried using the gsed thing 16:52:08 <planetmaker> just use sed :) 16:56:44 <yorick> planetmaker: makefile doesn't like $ 16:56:51 <planetmaker> use $$ 16:56:54 <planetmaker> or $ 16:57:01 <planetmaker> the latter 16:59:35 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 359: Corrected 747-200 Png, Co-ordinate File and NFO Regarding Dia... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/359 (by Beardie27) 17:03:54 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 360: Corrected the 747-200 Greyscale Pcx to match Png @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/360 (by Beardie27) 17:04:26 <planetmaker> yorick, should it then still not work (dunno, sometimes it's peculiar), maybe call a shell script which does it 17:15:33 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 361: Corrected Diagonal Take off Sprites on 747-400F~SCD Png and Pcx @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/361 (by Beardie27) 17:47:51 <yorick> planetmaker, what would such a shell script look like? 18:05:09 <yorick> nvm... 18:05:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 362: - Fix: allow to compile without dos2unix or unix2dos @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/362 (by yorick) 18:05:28 <ODM> it would look like some text: 18:11:00 <yorick> hmm, I can expect everyone with mercurial to have python installed, can't I 18:12:56 <Ammler> :-) 18:13:45 <Ammler> that is actually a nice idea. 18:27:21 <yorick> Ammler: also, mercurial 1.3 introduced subrepositories 18:27:52 <planetmaker> but - afaik - as experimental feature 18:27:53 <yorick> http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/subrepos <-- it might be interesting 18:27:55 <Webster> Title: subrepos - Mercurial (at mercurial.selenic.com) 18:27:56 <Ammler> hmm, don't think, redmine supports that. 18:28:14 <yorick> planetmaker: heh, experimental features always work great for me :) 18:28:38 <Ammler> like openttd nightlies :P 18:28:43 <planetmaker> well... :) 18:28:54 <planetmaker> great unless it's a production environment. 18:29:02 <planetmaker> Which we should consider the devzone to be 18:29:16 <yorick> but they are in a stable release 18:29:22 <Ammler> I don't mind supporting it, but without redmine, is might be useless 18:29:29 <Ammler> it* 18:29:30 <planetmaker> and they explicitly warn you to use it in production :) 18:29:55 <planetmaker> Ammler, but redmine has sub projects... Like all newgrfs are sub to newgrf :) 18:30:38 <planetmaker> This feature is considered experimental for Mercurial 1.3 and is subject to change <-- and "subject to change" is bad 18:31:17 <Ammler> hmm 18:31:27 <Ammler> how does subrepo work? 18:31:27 <planetmaker> But actually, I thought of it for it, too :) 18:32:01 <Ammler> is that FOREST? 18:32:20 <planetmaker> dunno forest really. I think not quite but similar 18:34:00 <Ammler> don't know it either, just heard about. 18:34:23 <planetmaker> it would make a pull quite handy :) 18:34:28 <Ammler> is a subrepo like a branch or sep folder? 18:34:28 <planetmaker> also a push :) 18:34:36 <planetmaker> it's a separate repo 18:34:39 <planetmaker> all on its own 18:34:49 <planetmaker> you got a main repo and then sub repositories 18:34:55 <planetmaker> which are full repos on their own 18:35:17 <planetmaker> it's like mq with versioning in that sense, as I understand it. 18:36:02 <Ammler> hmm, you can make the mq as a subrepo? 18:36:24 <planetmaker> no, not that. But you can do a hg init in the patches dir :) 18:36:40 <planetmaker> and then... well. Then you could, I guess. 18:36:47 <Ammler> well, that is what you do already. 18:37:17 <planetmaker> not directly actually. I let svn keep the versioning. 18:37:22 <planetmaker> Was too much hassle 18:37:31 <planetmaker> But I know how it works, yes 18:37:45 <Ammler> hmm, the hg books explains that quite well, imo. 18:37:46 <planetmaker> (the svn on our server) 18:37:54 <planetmaker> yes, it does. 18:38:02 <planetmaker> but... I had no need actually... 18:38:20 <planetmaker> I only want the newest version - and all older is in the svn 18:38:32 <Ammler> I have installed 1.3 local already 18:38:41 <Ammler> would be easy step to do it on the server. 18:38:47 <Ammler> with or without the extension. 18:38:53 <Ammler> but I thought to wait a bit. 18:39:00 <planetmaker> ^ 18:40:07 <planetmaker> well... I haven't, but... 18:40:52 <Ammler> well, it happens here, when I run "zypper up" 18:41:01 <Ammler> can't control that ;.-) 18:41:53 <planetmaker> ok, seems like I have on all OS 1.2.1 :) 18:41:59 <planetmaker> I thought I had 1.3 on one :) 18:48:27 <planetmaker> I guess the point that I didn't install it was that for neither of my OS the official download site offered a bundle 18:48:36 <planetmaker> and still doesn't btw 18:48:40 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Wiki edit: SSH (#3) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/16/wiki/SSH?version=3 (by Ammler) 18:49:07 <Ammler> mercurial-1.3-4.2.i586.rpm 18:50:00 <planetmaker> http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Download 18:50:01 <Webster> Title: Download - Mercurial (at mercurial.selenic.com) 18:51:07 <Ammler> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/scm/openSUSE_11.1/ 18:51:08 <Webster> Title: Index of /repositories/devel:/tools:/scm/openSUSE_11.1 (at download.opensuse.org) 18:51:29 <Ammler> that is what my zypper uses 19:23:48 *** yorick has quit IRC 19:47:25 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Wiki edit: SSH (#4) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/16/wiki/SSH?version=4 (by Ammler) 19:59:58 <planetmaker> @quote add #openttdcoop <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 144: Fix (r142): it's quite necessary to add the graphics files, too, if they ... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/144 (by planetmaker) <planetmaker> no wonder that my ratio of changes per commit is about half of that compared to f00bar<Ammler> FooBar_: ^ ;-)<planetmaker> mehh... @ Ammler :P<planetmaker> I mis-spelled on purpose :P<Ammler> I 19:59:58 <Webster> planetmaker: The operation succeeded. Quote #5 added. 19:59:58 <planetmaker> highlighted on same reason :P 20:02:36 <planetmaker> @quote add #openttdcoop <Brot6> ::OpenGFX - Revision 144: Fix (r142): it's quite necessary to add the graphics files, too, if they ... (by planetmaker) <planetmaker> no wonder that my ratio of changes per commit is about half of that compared to f00bar<Ammler> FooBar_: ^ ;-)<planetmaker> mehh... @ Ammler :P<planetmaker> I mis-spelled on purpose :P<Ammler> I highlighted on same reason :P 20:02:36 <Webster> planetmaker: The operation succeeded. Quote #6 added. 20:07:25 *** yorick has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:22:32 <Ammler> planetmaker: planetmaker 20:22:43 <planetmaker> ? 20:22:56 <Ammler> is it possible to change the Makefile vars with parameters or env vars? 20:23:13 <planetmaker> in principle yes 20:23:33 <planetmaker> practically I don't use env vars. 20:23:39 <Ammler> hmm, no, I have an idea :-) 20:23:54 <planetmaker> There's one make --option which tells make to override variables by env vars 20:24:12 <planetmaker> you're never out, eh? ;) 20:24:50 <planetmaker> so, but please tell. 20:24:51 <Ammler> I use different Makefile.locals 20:25:00 <planetmaker> hm, ok. Why? 20:25:07 <Ammler> Makefile.nightly and Makefile.release 20:25:12 <planetmaker> ok 20:25:42 <Ammler> and I use those files also as indicator, which needs compiling. 20:25:43 <planetmaker> let me guess: install dir? 20:26:01 <planetmaker> eh? 20:26:11 <Ammler> install dir and zip tool 20:26:31 <planetmaker> zip is different?! 20:26:43 <planetmaker> well. Doesn't matter actually 20:26:54 <Ammler> yes, don't have zip installed 20:26:58 <Ammler> only 7zip 20:27:30 <planetmaker> ok, but it doesn't differ for release and bundle? 20:29:00 <planetmaker> http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#Overriding 20:29:01 <Webster> Title: GNU `make' (at www.gnu.org) 20:29:09 <planetmaker> ^^ you want probably that, Ammler 20:29:54 <Ammler> well, as long as we don't use redmine for the nightlies, I need something to see, which to compile anyway. 20:30:06 <planetmaker> so you want make release INSTALL_DIR=<whatever> 20:30:12 <planetmaker> or INSTALLDIR 20:30:14 <planetmaker> dunno anymore 21:00:27 <Ammler> planetmaker: planetmaker 21:00:32 <Ammler> :-) 21:00:45 <Ammler> the file you create for the revision, what is that for? 21:00:46 <planetmaker> :P 21:01:07 <Ammler> .rev 21:01:08 <planetmaker> it's a check whether the revision changed. Then the grf needs updating, too 21:01:17 <planetmaker> e.g. from 134M to 135 21:01:28 <planetmaker> when I commit :) 21:01:33 <Ammler> hm 21:01:39 <Ammler> but 21:01:40 <planetmaker> or the makefile changes. Which could alter the grf, too 21:01:54 <Ammler> the name of the file and the content is the same? 21:02:14 <planetmaker> the content doesn't really matter right now 21:02:16 <planetmaker> just the name 21:02:30 <planetmaker> but you should rely on any .rev file there. They get deleted 21:02:56 <planetmaker> oh, and it makes sure nightly and release can be distinguished, too 21:02:56 <Ammler> n't 21:03:54 <Ammler> then I should keep mv blump REV file? 21:04:21 <planetmaker> say again? 21:05:07 <Ammler> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/bundles/opengfx/nightlies/ <-- the REV file here 21:05:19 <Ammler> does show the last compiled revision 21:05:45 <Ammler> I compare that with tip, if tip differ, I run the compile 21:06:12 <planetmaker> shouldn't be necessary 21:06:34 <planetmaker> make should do nothing, if there's nothing to do. 21:07:03 <planetmaker> though, of course, you need to skip the copy, too 21:07:09 <planetmaker> so... yes... keep that 21:07:57 <Ammler> well, as I need to clone the whole repo 21:08:12 <Ammler> I wouldn't like to to that for nothing 21:09:55 <planetmaker> yep, also that. 21:10:14 <Ammler> mkdir tmp && chmod 777 tmp && cp <project>/Makefile.nightly tmp/Makefile.local && cd tmp && sudo make bundle_zip 21:10:57 <Ammler> oh, forgot sudo hg clone 21:11:21 <planetmaker> basically it stores what {{GRF_TITLE}} is replaced by in the existing grf file 21:12:14 <planetmaker> $(DIR_BASE)$(shell [ -n "$(REPO_TAGS)" ] && echo $(REPO_TAGS)$(GRF_MODIFIED) || echo $(GRF_NIGHTLYNAME)-r$(GRF_REVISION)$(GRF_MODIFIED)) 21:12:19 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #229 (Closed): IL 62 grayscale @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/229#change-821 (by simozzz_AK) 21:13:01 <planetmaker> which is also the name which the last *_zip would create 21:15:31 <Ammler> what about the changelog as content? 21:15:59 <planetmaker> why would I do that? 21:16:19 <planetmaker> changelog exists. 21:16:26 <Ammler> really? 21:16:34 <Ammler> bside the manual thing? 21:16:35 <planetmaker> but isn't whatsoever currently created or adopted automatically 21:16:43 <planetmaker> no. completely manual 21:17:00 <Ammler> well, I mean the revision log 21:17:22 <planetmaker> yes. But what should I put in there? hg log --template={desc} ? 21:17:38 <Ammler> just hg log 21:17:56 <Ammler> just hg log -rtip:r<lastrev> 21:18:03 <planetmaker> no 21:18:07 <planetmaker> make clean && make 21:18:10 <planetmaker> ^ think of that 21:18:21 <planetmaker> then lastrev = 0 21:18:26 <planetmaker> hg up -r140 21:18:33 <planetmaker> then the log from 154:140? 21:18:36 <Ammler> ic 21:19:31 <planetmaker> I think that part has to be part of the CF, not of the makefile :) 21:19:55 <Ammler> :P 21:20:00 <Ammler> but I agree 21:20:25 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 363: Updated #223 - Added More work To The A380-900 Png @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/363 (by Beardie27) 21:20:46 <Ammler> he, now I have use for your .rev file 21:21:01 <planetmaker> which is? 21:21:18 <Ammler> FILENAME=`cat *.rev` 21:21:59 <Ammler> hg log -r$NREV:$CREV > FILENAME.log 21:22:10 <Ammler> $ 21:22:12 <planetmaker> rather use 'ls *.rev' 21:22:41 <Ammler> but then I have the ".rev" 21:22:53 <planetmaker> ah 21:22:55 <planetmaker> ok 21:23:57 <Ammler> ok, 30mins left to start the compile farm :-) 21:25:40 <planetmaker> :-) 21:29:29 *** yorick has quit IRC 21:30:44 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:32:12 <Ammler> hmm, I don't have such a filre on was 21:33:05 <planetmaker> :) 21:33:14 <planetmaker> easy to create, I think 21:33:31 <Ammler> well, I could use the the filename from the zip 21:34:00 <Ammler> and what about the compile log 21:34:07 <Ammler> is it enough like now? 21:34:32 <planetmaker> most probable 21:34:32 <Ammler> or would you like to have all logs from older nightlies too? 21:34:52 <planetmaker> not necessary... though... hm 21:35:04 <Ammler> :-) 21:36:00 <planetmaker> :-) 21:36:05 <planetmaker> use your own discretion ;) 21:36:20 <planetmaker> I'll use my own bed now 21:36:51 <Ammler> so we have was-dev-r363.zip, was-dev-r363.log and in subfolder was-dev-r363.compile.log, was-dev-r363.compile.errors.log 21:37:34 <Ammler> and then, I can always add a "cleaning tool" later :-) 21:37:48 <planetmaker> :-) 21:37:50 <planetmaker> sounds ok