Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 17th July 2009:
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01:33:40  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 77M)
01:33:41  <Brot6> Yow! And then we could sit on the hoods of cars at stop lights!
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08:14:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 18: Feature: compile farm for nightlies @ (by Ammler)
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14:16:40  <yorick> Ammler:
14:16:41  <Webster> Title: SharedSSH - Mercurial (at
14:16:56  <yorick> might be nice to allow only some users to access certain repos
14:22:02  <Ammler> how do you think, are you restricted?
14:22:37  <Ammler> try to access the server with putty
14:22:39  <yorick> Ammler: I can commit to every repo, currently
14:22:48  <Ammler> yes
14:23:19  <Ammler> that is current policy.
14:24:32  <Ammler>
14:24:34  <yorick> the things on that page can fix that
14:25:08  <yorick> oh, you put it on ottdc :)
14:25:26  <planetmaker> yorick, as long as we have no need to completely restrict everything, we make it easy on us
14:25:38  <yorick> ok
14:25:43  <yorick> strange people :)
14:25:49  <planetmaker> should this trust be broken though, we know that we can use these measures.
14:26:02  <planetmaker> and a vcs allows always to revert :)
14:28:13  <Ammler> never push something to a repo you aren't at least developer of, or you have permission from the manager.
14:28:51  <planetmaker> else we would suddenly have very good reason to actually install that scheme
14:29:56  <Ammler> maybe sometime, someone will make a plugin for redmine, so managing those restrictions would go easy, now it would need work from admins.
14:30:06  <planetmaker> :)
14:32:12  <Ammler> yorick: if you need your own project, just ask :-)
14:32:23  * yorick does not need own projects yet
14:32:25  <yorick> :)
14:32:32  * yorick installs stylish for firefox
14:32:53  * planetmaker has made bad experiences with FF plugins...
14:33:02  <planetmaker> makes the whole thing a lot less stable... :S
14:33:02  <yorick> you have?
14:33:09  <yorick> the whole thing isn't stable
14:33:13  <planetmaker> :)
14:33:17  * yorick is using minefield
14:33:35  <planetmaker> One reason to use xchat: it doesn't crash when FF goes bye bye
14:33:45  <planetmaker> (over chatzilla)
14:33:54  <yorick> yes
14:34:07  <yorick> that way my reason for switching to xchat
14:34:20  <yorick> but xchat was less stable (unofficial build), so I switched to irssi
14:34:38  <planetmaker> this xchat never crashed
14:34:51  <planetmaker> and it runs with two short interruptions since mid May
14:35:30  <yorick> but windows :)
14:35:56  <planetmaker> this isn't windows, but linux :)
14:36:06  <yorick> heh, linux
14:37:49  <yorick> Ammler: do you mind if I try to use stylish on redmine to make it use squeejee?
14:37:54  <Ammler> my KDE crahes in weekly basis
14:38:27  <planetmaker> this is better, but...
14:38:37  <planetmaker> reminds me. I should switch to gnome :)
14:38:40  <Ammler> he?
14:39:03  <Ammler> no, then I would rather go back to KDE3.5
14:39:24  <planetmaker> hm.. how do I query the running KDE version?
14:39:38  <planetmaker> ah, there.
14:39:46  <planetmaker> KDE 3.5.9 "relaease 49.1"
14:39:49  <planetmaker> also a pain
14:40:42  <yorick> KDE runs on windows, too, nowadays
14:41:05  <planetmaker> haha :) yes, but doesn't sound overly sensible to me
14:49:21  <yorick> step 1: adblocked old style :)
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15:39:38  <Ammler> [16:38] <yorick> Ammler: do you mind if I try to use stylish on redmine to make it use squeejee? <-- what's squeejee?
16:09:36  <yorick> .away
16:09:39  <yorick> meh
16:09:47  <yorick> Ammler: squeejee is another redmine style
16:18:02  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r184)
16:18:02  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r144)
16:18:03  <Brot6> worldairlineset: update from r363 to r364, starting nightly compile
16:18:29  <Brot6> worldairlineset: compile done (0 errors) -
16:20:44  <Ammler> he, first automatic compile farm succeeded, not much was done
16:21:05  <yorick> Ammler: the url was wrong ;)
16:21:36  <Ammler> hmm, shall we change the project id
16:21:38  <Ammler> ?
16:21:51  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 364: Updated #223 - Add some more work to A380-900 Greyscale @ (by Beardie27)
16:22:17  <yorick> Ammler: it should be either worldairlinerset or worldairlineset
16:22:18  <yorick> :)
16:23:46  <Ammler> he?
16:23:57  <Ammler> it is now worldairlineset
16:24:08  <Ammler> but it should be worldairlinerset
16:24:18  <yorick> I guess so
16:24:47  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #260 (Assigned): A320-200 BA Landor @ (by Beardie27)
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16:31:08  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Holiday @ (by Beardie27)
16:34:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #225 (Assigned): B737-500 Continental Airlines @ (by Beardie27)
16:34:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #327 (Assigned): Boeing 737-800 TurkishAirlines sprite coordinates are off @ (by Beardie27)
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17:00:13  <yorick> ooh, it works :):)
17:03:52  <Ammler> ?
17:07:10  <yorick> Ammler:
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17:22:38  <Ammler> don't get that millenium conversion set from terken
17:23:03  <yorick> Ammler: ?
17:23:19  <Ammler>
17:23:21  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Millenium Conversion set (at
17:23:41  <Ammler> is that a grf version of the dalength patch?
17:23:53  <Ammler> day*
17:23:53  <yorick> :D
17:24:36  <yorick> Tubular, Silicon                 2010               1650
17:24:40  <yorick> I guess it is
17:24:54  <Ammler> silly
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19:08:47  <yorick> people are complaining that pathfinding in squirrel is slow
19:08:59  <yorick> that might be a nice project: add yapf for squirrel
19:10:11  * yorick is not planning on doing it..yet
19:10:25  <yorick> so don't add a project...yet
19:18:33  <yorick> ;)
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20:07:20  <planetmaker> <Ammler> don't get that millenium conversion set from terken <-- I understand it as the grf version of daylength patch, yes
20:07:35  <planetmaker> I think it's a good and easy approach.
20:40:39  <Ammler> planetmaker: I tend to disagree ;-)
20:41:39  <Ammler> as he wrote self, a truck on the dark age
20:44:15  <planetmaker> The date is just a number. Free your mind to attach the real history to it.
20:45:10  <planetmaker> The consequence is: you can play with the same vehicle longer and with the same effects like industries appearing and others fading out
20:45:32  <planetmaker> so... it's just a matter wheter you stretch one or slow the other
20:47:09  <Ammler> hmm, but you have similar balancing issues like with daylength patch
20:47:52  <planetmaker> uhm, no?
20:48:04  <planetmaker> It just needs a newgrf for each: houses, industries, vehicles.
20:48:31  <planetmaker> the year in terms of economy is still a year
20:48:39  <planetmaker> the only thing stretched is the availability
20:48:48  <planetmaker> And that is what most people are after IMO
20:49:01  <Ammler> are you?
20:49:06  * Ammler isn't
20:49:10  <planetmaker> e.g. "I want to last the 70s not 2.5h, but 25 hours
20:49:33  <Ammler> I would like to play a year 10 times longer
20:49:35  <planetmaker> What would be the sense of daylength? Having a certain period last longer
20:50:01  <planetmaker> Why "a year"?
20:50:12  <planetmaker> Why not just say "a year is actually a month"?
20:50:13  <Ammler> well or a day, doesn't matter
20:50:31  <planetmaker> and that's what that approach does. It just stretches availability
20:50:35  <Ammler> the important part, is town growth has to be 10 times slower too
20:50:36  <planetmaker> Which is: make the year longer
20:50:45  <Ammler> income has to be 10 times lower
20:50:50  <Ammler> etc..
20:50:59  <planetmaker> no. why?
20:51:33  <Ammler> productuvitiy has to be lower
20:51:47  <planetmaker> No
20:52:07  <planetmaker> The main issue is: you want the time to pass slowly in order to really be able to use vehicle XY.
20:52:13  <planetmaker> That is solved by his approach.
21:13:19  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 19: Change: rename of the temporary file in self @ (by Ammler)
21:14:27  <Ammler> you will have million habitants towns for 20 cap buse
21:14:28  <Ammler> s
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21:47:03  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 365: Basic A380-900 nfo ready for pcx @ (by Frank)
21:47:04  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 366: A380-900 nfo @ (by Frank)
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23:30:08  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Bug #339: unknown revision... @ (by planetmaker)
23:36:13  <Brot6> feed DevZone had 11 updates, showing the latest 10
23:36:13  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12690: (svn r16859) -Codechange: split the Station struct into ... @ (by Rubidium)
23:36:13  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12691: (svn r16860) -Codechange: introduce a helper to assign a... @ (by Rubidium)
23:36:13  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12692: (svn r16861) -Codechange: move a few more bits from stat... @ (by Rubidium)
23:36:17  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12693: (svn r16862) -Codechange: make waypoints use the same sy... @ (by Rubidium)
23:36:21  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12694: (svn r16863) -Codechange: GetWaypointByTile -> Waypoint:... @ (by Rubidium)
23:36:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12695: (svn r16864) -Codechange: make Waypoints a subclass of B... @ (by Rubidium)
23:36:31  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12696: (svn r16865) -Doc [NoAI] [FS#3037]: replace old exceptio... @ (by yexo)
23:36:35  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12697: (svn r16866) -Fix (r16865): forgot to run squirrel_expor... @ (by yexo)
23:36:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12698: (svn r16867) -Feature(ette): Turn variable 0E/8E (vertic... @ (by frosch)
23:36:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12699: Merge trunk up to r16867 @ (by planetmaker)
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