Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 9th August 2009:
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01:33:36  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 91M)
01:33:36  <Brot6> Will it improve my CASH FLOW?
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12:57:08  <DJNekkid> now thats a wierd bug...
14:06:00  <DJNekkid> the wierest one i've ever had!
14:10:09  <XeryusTC> ?
14:10:37  <DJNekkid> i thought i had figured alignments out, but it doesnt seem that way :)
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15:22:50  <Ammler> planetmaker: <-- shall I commit such things to the Makefile template too?
15:34:57  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Generic NewGRF Makefile - Code Review #377: *.new @ (by Ammler)
15:35:29  <DJNekkid> Ammler: speaking of templates, do you remember that template-train-thiny i made?
15:35:38  <Ammler> yes?
15:35:56  <DJNekkid> it seems like im getting it to work :)
15:36:20  <Ammler> getting "what" to work?
15:36:36  <DJNekkid> the stuff that didnt work :)
15:58:20  <DJNekkid> three of 4 problems taken care of
16:18:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r225)
16:18:02  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r187)
16:18:02  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r36)
16:18:02  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r142)
16:18:03  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r165)
16:18:03  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r383)
17:16:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #378: Misaligned bridges @ (by Ammler)
17:21:08  <DJNekkid> yey Ammler...
17:21:12  <DJNekkid> now it actually DO work!
17:23:56  <Ammler> :-)
17:24:21  <Ammler> I don't get you, but I am happy for you :-P
17:24:35  <DJNekkid> sec
17:26:06  <DJNekkid> pull the 2cc set, and put template.grf into your */ottd/data-folder :)
17:26:12  <DJNekkid> load it, and see!
17:26:18  <DJNekkid> its a work of art!
17:26:21  <Ammler> mäh
17:26:31  <Ammler> why do you have a grf in the repo?
17:26:48  <DJNekkid> so that you dont have to use the batfile to built it :p
17:27:12  <Ammler> then use files
17:27:19  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 226: fixed the template.nfo, and now it DO work as intended! finally! @ (by DJNekkid)
17:27:19  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 227: forgot one small thing :p @ (by DJNekkid)
17:27:56  <Ammler> don't use the official repo for tests, specially not for binaries
17:29:43  <DJNekkid> tests?
17:36:15  <Ammler> well, now I see the template grf, but how to use it?
17:38:17  <DJNekkid> look for "template test" in the grf menu
17:38:35  <DJNekkid> then add the one train that you dont recognise from before ...
17:38:45  <DJNekkid> add a few wagons to it (bottom pax wagon)
17:39:27  <DJNekkid> change what you can transport in it
17:39:45  <DJNekkid> notice how the capacity changes, as well as loading speed (not visible)
17:40:47  <DJNekkid> running costs vary, that is, if it have 0 zpeed, it have low running cost
17:40:55  <DJNekkid> gfx change as well on none-pax stuff
17:45:04  <DJNekkid> not to speak of the code, even planetmaker understand that one :9
17:51:39  <Ammler> well, it is meant to replace it with real sprites?
17:51:44  <Ammler> or is there something more?
17:52:09  <DJNekkid> the clue is, this file can be used in 90% or more of all the MU's in the 2cc set...
17:52:27  <DJNekkid> just replace template.pcx with whatever.pcx :)
17:53:58  <Ammler> and that will be made with precompiler?
17:54:10  <DJNekkid> most likely?
17:54:14  <Ammler> cool
17:56:49  <DJNekkid> the first, untested version had "precompiler-stuff", but i had to test it, and removed it for "real data"
18:04:01  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
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19:07:19  <Webster> Latest update from trac: Revision 730: pw_arguments.diff isn't needed anymore. <>
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19:49:55  <DJNekkid> FooBar_... are u here?
19:50:07  <FooBar_> yes I am
19:50:08  <DJNekkid> there are a new "x" in the alpha5 ... some ...
19:50:12  <DJNekkid> "dots"
19:50:19  <DJNekkid> but they dont seem to be everywhere
19:50:45  <DJNekkid> is that "you" or "them" ? (opengfx vs openttd)
19:51:05  <FooBar_> what x and/or dots are you referring to?
19:51:24  <DJNekkid> i'll give u a screenie
19:51:30  <FooBar_> please :)
19:53:12  <DJNekkid>
19:54:24  <FooBar_> Hmmmz... I think that's them to be honest...
19:54:30  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - hmm.PNG @ (by DJNekkid)
19:54:51  <FooBar_> That looks like the dots that show when there's too little space to fit a string
19:55:16  <DJNekkid> might be
19:55:26  <FooBar_> And that particular close-box looks to be one pixel smaller than the one from the terraform toolbar
19:58:10  <FooBar_> I wonder why it's blue though...
19:58:33  <DJNekkid> yea...
19:58:39  <DJNekkid> thats what i were thinkin' as well
19:58:56  <Ammler> DJNekkid: hmm is fixed with r145
19:59:04  <Ammler> or do you use nightly?
19:59:17  <DJNekkid> thats the "latest" from bananas
19:59:24  <Ammler> that isn't nightly
19:59:34  <DJNekkid> i know
20:00:09  <Ammler> well, that bug only appears with openttd nightly, so not that important to have it published on bananas, imo.
20:00:25  <DJNekkid> nah :)
20:00:40  <Ammler> and why do you use dutch set to report a opengfx bug?
20:00:54  <DJNekkid> i could not enter files to opengfx
20:00:58  <Ammler> you really don't like to use regular ways for it?
20:01:31  <DJNekkid> <+DJNekkid> i could not enter files to opengfx
20:01:36  <Ammler> I am quite sure, you should be able to open issues at opengfx
20:01:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #327 (Closed): Boeing 737-800 TurkishAirlines sprite coordinates are off @ (by Frank)
20:02:09  <DJNekkid> but when i am online, why not just ask him?
20:02:26  <Ammler> who?
20:02:35  <DJNekkid> FooBar_
20:02:40  <FooBar_> Ammler: can I reject that bridge bug, as that's thirdparty-bridges?
20:02:44  <FooBar_> DJNekkid:
20:02:56  <Ammler> FooBar_: autsch
20:02:57  <FooBar_> don't highlight me for nothing :P
20:03:03  <DJNekkid> hehe
20:04:12  <FooBar_> The OpenGFX monorail tracks (read: all opengfx tracks) are slightly off position compared to the TTD equivalents
20:04:34  <Ammler> well, then we should that report as bug
20:04:35  <DJNekkid> i assumed, again, you were following the conversation
20:05:23  <Ammler> or do you think, it shouldn't be possible to use newgrf bridges?
20:06:15  <Ammler> is the "general" misalignment intendend?
20:06:40  <FooBar_> I don't know about the misalignment, you'd need to ask Zephyris about that.
20:07:12  <FooBar_> But yes, one should be able to use newgrf bridges, but those newgrf bridges should use the OpenGFX tracktype when OpenGFX is enabled and not the TTD track type
20:07:28  <Ammler> not possible
20:07:39  <FooBar_> A parameter setting could be provided
20:07:40  <Ammler> devs fear desync then
20:07:54  <FooBar_> I know it's not possible to detect OpenGFX at this point in time
20:09:40  <FooBar_> This all will be solved once we have railtypes :)
20:09:41  <Ammler> <-- could we use other foundation construction sprites
20:10:03  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #351: Action Colors & Other @ (by foobar)
20:11:46  <Ammler> -Deleted-	Deleted
20:12:05  <Ammler> -text ;-)
20:12:17  <Ammler> do you see the 2 "-"?
20:12:44  <FooBar_> i see "-Deleted- Deleted"
20:12:53  <Ammler>
20:15:09  <Ammler> DJNekkid: btw:
20:15:47  <DJNekkid> aye :=)
20:17:46  <Ammler> we only need 2 tropic houses to make next bananas release
20:18:27  <DJNekkid> luckily cant i draw :p
20:18:51  <Ammler> well, we "could" make it without drawing
20:19:02  <DJNekkid> ..?
20:19:07  <Ammler> #104 only needs first construction stage
20:19:43  <Ammler> #105 could use that sprites:
20:22:13  <FooBar_> hmmm that #105 is not bad, too bad there's no construction stages....
20:23:08  <Ammler> there are
20:23:16  <Ammler> check the ticket itself
20:23:39  <Ammler> he has more than needed
20:24:25  <Ammler> we still have the house misalignment bug
20:26:58  <FooBar_> ah, then I didn't say anything :P
20:27:50  <FooBar_> yeah, what's up with those houses? Is it just that the sprites are misaligned, or were the actual sprites too wide?
20:27:58  <Ammler> rubi wants to include opengfx downloader to the installer
20:28:12  <FooBar_> I read something about bandwith...
20:28:13  <Ammler> FooBar_: maybe both
20:28:50  <Ammler> yes, he kinda asked, if I care about, when the installer downloads from my server.
20:29:29  <Ammler> I don't btw. I use around 10% of my free traffic
20:30:35  <DJNekkid> btw, within a year will i _
20:30:45  <DJNekkid> _probably_ have a 100/100mbit line at home
20:30:54  <FooBar_> that's nice
20:30:58  <FooBar_> are you putting a server up?
20:31:20  <FooBar_> Ammler: that's not much...either you have too much allowed transfer or you're not using you package to it's fullest :P
20:31:38  <FooBar_> anyways, I'm off for tonight, bye!
20:31:39  <DJNekkid> i did have one once, but i probably will fix it when i get such a line
20:31:49  <Ammler> 3TB/month
20:32:10  <Ammler> the devzone needs around 100GB
20:32:21  <Ammler> or less
20:51:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by athanasios)
20:53:00  <Ammler> FooBar_: is it possible athansios doesn't read tt-forums?
20:54:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by athanasios)
21:00:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by Ammler)
21:00:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #104: Sprites 4614:4619 (6) - Modern office block @ (by Ammler)
21:12:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by athanasios)
21:14:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by athanasios)
21:19:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by Ammler)
21:24:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by athanasios)
21:24:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by athanasios)
21:26:59  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by Ammler)
21:27:19  <Ammler> :-)
21:27:30  <Ammler> now that is how you spam the channel :-)
21:30:36  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #200 (Closed): Create World Airlines Set Alpha Release GRF @ (by Frank)
21:34:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #200 (Reopened): Create World Airlines Set Alpha Release GRF @ (by Frank)
21:54:44  <FooBar_> Ammler: yes, that's possible. IIRC he's been banned there a while ago for some unknown reason
22:02:47  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by athanasios)
22:08:02  <Ammler> FooBar_: you are off!
22:08:10  <Ammler> but thanks for the answer and good night :-)
22:11:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 384: Added in the Iberia 747-200 completely @ (by Frank)
22:11:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by athanasios)
22:25:55  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #351: Action Colors & Other @ (by athanasios)
22:37:05  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by athanasios)
22:44:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 385: Added all relating files for Northwest 757 Coded in @ (by Frank)
22:58:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #104: Sprites 4614:4619 (6) - Modern office block @ (by athanasios)
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