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01:12:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2702: (svn r2853) Missing 'test_' prefix on a helper test caused it to not run. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2702 (by edavis10)
01:12:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2703: (svn r2854) Allow referencing issue numbers in brackets. This style is ... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2703 (by edavis10)
01:33:39  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 98M)
01:33:39  <Brot6> Now I think I just reached the state of HYPERTENSION that comes JUST BEFORE you see the TOTAL at the SAFEWAY CHECKOUT COUNTER!
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11:51:41  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #528: Add liveries for planes we already have coded. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/528#change-1346 (by FaddyPainter)
11:59:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Bug #544: Remove (e)GRVTS @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/544#change-1345 (by Ammler)
11:59:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Bug #547: Remove Pikka's NewGRFs @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/547 (by Ammler)
12:01:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Bug #548: Remove FooBar's NewGRFs @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/548 (by Ammler)
12:04:48  <Doorslammer> Hows that?
12:04:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Bug #549: Remove Japan Sets @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/549 (by Ammler)
12:04:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Bug #547: Remove Pikka's NewGRFs @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/547#change-1347 (by Ammler)
12:11:00  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Wiki edit: Wiki (#1) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/14/wiki/Wiki?version=1 (by Ammler)
12:11:20  <Ammler> Doorslammer: ?
12:11:41  <Doorslammer> Oh, just asking about the changes
12:12:24  <Ammler> trying to check what we can remove from the Pack...
12:13:24  <Doorslammer> I assume thats a good thing
12:15:06  <Ammler> well, some authors just thought about now, not past :-(
12:15:22  <Ammler> so we need still some grfs to load our archived games.
12:16:29  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Bug #550: Remove ECS from George @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/550 (by Ammler)
12:16:52  <Ammler> I guess, that's all :-)
12:26:41  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Bug #551: Remove single GRFs @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/551 (by Ammler)
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16:18:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r267)
16:18:02  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r217)
16:18:03  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r90)
16:18:03  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169)
16:18:04  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r200)
16:18:04  <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r41)
16:18:04  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r532)
16:20:13  <Ammler> :-o
16:20:47  <Doorslammer> Crikey O'Reilly
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16:21:56  <DJNekkid> anything thats need codeing? :)
16:22:02  <Ammler> :-P
16:22:07  <Doorslammer> Yeah, us :P
16:22:08  <Ammler> Hello DJNekkid
16:22:12  <Doorslammer> lol
16:22:43  <DJNekkid> hi Ammler :)
16:22:46  <Ammler> DJNekkid: how do I code my logic train, so no waggons can be attached?
16:22:54  <DJNekkid> callback 1D
16:22:55  <DJNekkid> :pp
16:23:12  <Ammler> VarAction2?
16:23:14  <DJNekkid> that points to var2 variable C6
16:23:34  <Ammler> hmm, but that means, I need Action1
16:23:50  <DJNekkid> sure does
16:24:07  <DJNekkid> and 2 :)
16:24:08  <DJNekkid> and 3 :)
16:24:29  <Ammler> now, I have a plain Action0 -)
16:24:55  <Ammler> (using the toyland maglev)
16:25:19  <Ammler> maybe I should check your mu template.
16:25:37  <DJNekkid> hmm
16:25:47  <DJNekkid> i think id rather check one of the NMTS thingies
16:26:02  <DJNekkid> or you could kindly ask me to do it :p
16:26:09  <Ammler> nah :-P
16:26:29  <DJNekkid> check the NMTS single engine
16:26:50  <Ammler> the issue is, also If I would code it that way, you are alweys able to append other waggons.
16:26:59  <Ammler> oh
16:27:14  <Ammler> is that like the 2cc superbus?
16:27:29  <DJNekkid> that superbus code suck :)
16:27:43  <DJNekkid> but yes, basicly
16:27:50  <Ammler> well, but I should be able to append the engine on itself
16:27:53  <DJNekkid> cannot attach to anything :)
16:28:15  <DJNekkid> then "just" check the ID for the engine and allow it, and the default would be not able
16:28:34  <Ammler> ok, sounds reasonable.
16:28:39  <DJNekkid> -1 *0  02 00 xx 81 C6 00 FF 01   FF 80 ID ID   FD 00
16:28:44  <Ammler> are you aware of the bug?
16:29:08  <DJNekkid> -1 * 0  02 00 xy 81 0C 00 FF 01   xx 00 1D 1D    <GFX var2ID> 00
16:29:10  <DJNekkid> what bug ?
16:29:28  <Ammler> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3146
16:30:09  <Ammler> you can't attach cargo to a pax engine.
16:30:22  <Ammler> but you can attach a pax engine to cargo waggons.
16:30:58  <DJNekkid> hmm...
16:31:22  <DJNekkid> i guess i "just" need to add a cannot attach to the wagons then...
16:31:30  <DJNekkid> but damn
16:31:44  <Ammler> hmm, you think, it is fixeable on newgrf level?
16:31:52  <DJNekkid> its almost like im bound to say, if people wanna exploit, then let them...
16:31:58  <DJNekkid> it _might_ be
16:32:08  <Ammler> I tried with ttdpatch, but wasn't reproduceable.
16:32:21  <DJNekkid> i need to see again...
16:32:34  <Ammler> [18:32] <DJNekkid> its almost like im bound to say, if people wanna exploit, then let them... <-- agreed.
16:33:01  <Ammler> but then, I don't need to make extra effort for the logic train, either.
16:33:30  <DJNekkid> im wondering ...
16:33:46  <Ammler> so, if someone likes to use the logic train for usual cargo traffic, I shouldn't care
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16:35:51  <welshdragon> Hi, can I request a developer account for the UK Bus Set?
16:36:26  <Ammler> welshdragon: if the uk bus set is going to be GPL'd, yes :-)?
16:36:38  <welshdragon> Ammler: yes
16:36:41  <welshdragon> it is my set
16:36:47  <welshdragon> and will be under GPL
16:36:59  <Ammler> then you would be very welcome :-)
16:37:26  <welshdragon> why thank you
16:37:37  <Ammler> welshdragon: what would you need?
16:37:51  <welshdragon> the same as the BRSet
16:38:06  <Ammler> do you also code the set, or is that someone else?
16:39:23  <welshdragon> that will be someone else
16:39:38  <welshdragon> i'm looking for a coder
16:39:50  <Ammler> DJNekkid: is looking for work :P
16:39:59  <DJNekkid> thats JUST NOW!
16:40:04  <Ammler> :-D
16:40:07  <DJNekkid> i got pretty much too much to do already
16:40:14  <Ammler> indeed
16:40:27  <DJNekkid> that damn dutch set should be finished soon :)
16:40:53  <Ammler> DJNekkid: who else does participate with graphics there?
16:41:02  <DJNekkid> the gfx?
16:41:34  <Ammler> yes, since purno agreed with GPL, it might be worth to ask the others too, so you could make it gpl.
16:42:09  <DJNekkid> http://users.tt-forums.net/dutchset/trainset/about.php
16:42:17  <Doorslammer> Don't worry, there isn't actually anything code wise to do just yet on Bus thing
16:42:39  <DJNekkid> busses must be the easiest thing to code ever ... perhaps 2nd to ships :)
16:43:01  <Doorslammer> The fact theres nothing yet makes it easier still :P
16:43:17  <Ammler> well, so you would mainly need the tracker now.
16:43:28  <Doorslammer> Pretty much
16:43:49  <Ammler> welshdragon: are you registered at the devzone?
16:43:54  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org
16:44:08  <Ammler> after that, I will setup the project and make you manager.
16:44:08  * welshdragon goes and does so
16:44:36  <Ammler> after that you can then add others as manager, dev or other contributors.
16:44:46  <Ammler> there is also a wiki or forum there.
16:44:57  <Ammler> everyhing can be dis/enabled.
16:45:34  <welshdragon> Ammler: i have forums
16:46:19  <welshdragon> and just registered
16:49:33  <DJNekkid> hey Ammler...
16:49:38  <DJNekkid> i tested that bug you mentioned
16:50:04  <DJNekkid> and all i can acheave is to have a train without an engine, where the MU is couted as wagons
16:51:58  <Ammler> welshdragon: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ukbusset/settings
16:52:24  <Ammler> please edit it, at least mention some links in the description
16:52:27  <DJNekkid> ukbusset ... sounds like some kind of medival hellish demon
16:52:39  <DJNekkid> a "named" bathezu or something...
16:52:53  <Frankr> lol
16:53:10  <Doorslammer> lol, Ukbusset the evil sorceror
16:53:12  <Frankr> u should ave said Buzzset
16:53:19  <Ammler> I guess, there is no need to setup the code repository, as long as there is no code needed.
16:53:27  <Ammler> and specially no coder around.
16:53:45  <DJNekkid> i _could_ make a bus template ...
16:53:55  <Frankr> it wouldn't take long
16:54:01  <DJNekkid> it wouldnt :)
16:54:10  <Frankr> buses must be the easiest thing to code
16:54:17  <Doorslammer> Considering the coup d'etat for this set only happened an hour ago, baby steps is good :P
16:54:22  <Ammler> shall I setup the makefile framework then?
16:54:44  <DJNekkid> sure
16:54:47  <Frankr> yh i would just send the usual
16:54:49  <DJNekkid> i'll add some "stuff" :)
16:54:59  <DJNekkid> and then people can start codeing :)
16:55:13  <Ammler> DJNekkid: btw. https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/538
16:55:23  <Frankr> i'm sure and painter could learn the bus code
16:55:36  <Frankr> after all i learnt the simple plane code
16:55:37  <Ammler> DJNekkid: would you mind, if I try to code such a monorail train?
16:55:43  <welshdragon> Doorslammer: added you as contributor
16:56:04  <DJNekkid> Ammler: what does that bug mean?
16:56:11  <Frankr> Doorslammer:have you given up on the BR Set as well, :)
16:56:22  <Ammler> welshdragon: if you have someone (else then DJN), please tell me, so we can give him repository access.
16:56:42  <welshdragon> Ammler: there's no other coder
16:56:50  <welshdragon> Doorslammer is an artiste
16:56:53  <Ammler> ok, when ;-)
16:57:06  <DJNekkid> if i make a template, would you guys be able to code yourselves?
16:57:14  <DJNekkid> it would be _quite_ self explaining
16:57:21  <Frankr> basically he means copy and paste it
16:57:38  <Frankr> using different graphics
16:57:43  <welshdragon> DJNekkid: probably
16:57:52  <welshdragon> if it is simple copy and paste
16:58:03  <welshdragon> but we will have articulated buses
16:58:19  <welshdragon> and the scale is Long Vehicles Scale
16:58:34  <Doorslammer> Im crap at numbers
16:58:37  <Ammler> welshdragon: do you have already sprties?
16:58:45  <Doorslammer> So Im no coder and more than likely not be ever
16:58:59  <welshdragon> Ammler: yes, but in the wrong scale
16:59:09  <DJNekkid> the non-articulated ones are atleast very very templateable
16:59:10  <welshdragon> they all need enlarging
16:59:30  <Doorslammer> And BR Set is still going strong
17:01:39  <Doorslammer> Amazing how much quicker things go without Worley steering drunkenly at the helm
17:01:50  <DJNekkid> lol
17:02:41  <Doorslammer> Shouting abuse at those who put a pixel wrong
17:08:01  <Frankr> lol
17:08:26  <Frankr> i thought it was the ex painters who critised everything and painted nothing
17:10:00  <Doorslammer> Oh, there is them people too
17:11:46  <DJNekkid> do you want thoose busses to be tourist capable?
17:12:14  <Doorslammer> I reckon thats a good idea
17:12:31  <Doorslammer> It will be de riguer in the future I bet
17:13:50  <Doorslammer> Anyone else getting an SSL error on entering the dev site?
17:14:25  <DJNekkid> yes
17:14:38  <Doorslammer> Oh
17:14:54  <Ammler> blame google ads ;-)
17:15:05  <DJNekkid> i blame google ads :)
17:15:16  <Ammler> you should be able to use the page without ssl, too.
17:15:23  <Ammler> just login is forced, afaik.
17:15:34  <Doorslammer> Oh I do, just wanted to check
17:15:52  <Ammler> Doorslammer: what browser?
17:16:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Bug #547: Remove Pikka's NewGRFs @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/547 (by Ammler)
17:16:40  <Frankr> DJNekkid: Wat is the tourist number
17:16:53  <DJNekkid> tourist numbeR?
17:16:58  <Frankr> WAS Team wants me to add it for planes
17:17:01  <Frankr> the id
17:17:19  <Ammler> those are LABELS, afaik
17:17:28  <Ammler> TOUR
17:17:29  <DJNekkid> i use var2 type 42
17:17:33  <DJNekkid> *variable 42
17:17:50  <Frankr> ok
17:17:53  <DJNekkid> *try to stick to DaleStan validated language*
17:21:12  <DJNekkid> the disadvantage Frankr, is that you need to add the capacity in two positions...
17:21:36  <Frankr> ok
17:22:31  <DJNekkid> and, are callback 36' capacity available for planes yet?
17:22:44  <Frankr> i will probab;y talk to you again about it
17:22:47  <DJNekkid> http://paste.openttd.org/216731
17:22:47  <Frankr> i don't think so
17:23:07  <DJNekkid> no its not
17:23:10  <DJNekkid> then it dont matter anyway
17:23:32  <Frankr> cos it can't b done?
17:23:47  <DJNekkid> callback 15 might be usable...
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17:24:25  <DJNekkid> http://paste.openttd.org/216731
17:24:27  <DJNekkid> ehm
17:24:27  <DJNekkid> 32
17:24:54  <TrogDoor> Ignore me and my stupid connection
17:25:13  <DJNekkid> */ignore TrogDoor
17:25:15  <Frankr> there is no difference in your pastebin
17:25:23  <DJNekkid> [19:24:19] <+DJNekkid> 32
17:25:37  <TrogDoor> Oh haha very funny :P
17:25:46  <DJNekkid> :p
17:26:17  <Frankr> :)
17:26:56  <Frankr> Btw is the 2cc the misc flags
17:27:09  <DJNekkid> it is the what?
17:27:30  <Frankr> company colours
17:28:53  <DJNekkid> i know, but what do you mean?
17:29:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: UK Bus Set - Support #552: Bus template @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/552 (by DJNekkid)
17:29:58  <Frankr> Action 0, 17 i think it is
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17:31:38  <Frankr> Yh it is Action 0, 17 Miscellaneous flags, i presumed Pikka used this for the Company Colours
17:31:53  <DJNekkid> oh ...
17:31:54  <DJNekkid> that
17:31:55  <DJNekkid> :)
17:31:56  <DJNekkid> yes :)
17:32:05  <Doorslammer> Noice
17:32:15  <DJNekkid> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0Planes
17:32:45  <Frankr> yh that
17:32:54  <Frankr> :0
17:32:57  <Frankr> :)
17:33:46  <Frankr> DJNekkid: ON the page u just sent it says callbacks
17:34:00  <Frankr> set reffitted capacity is 15
17:34:05  <DJNekkid> 17 ... thats misc flags
17:39:10  <Frankr> off for my tea
18:09:39  <Frankr> bk
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20:20:36  <DJNekkid> did that template work?
20:21:12  <moonmaker> DJNekkid: you really expect, they already tried it?
20:21:28  <welshdragon> the bus template?
20:21:37  <DJNekkid> bus yes
20:21:41  <welshdragon> there's nothing that's ready for coding :P
20:21:49  <DJNekkid> oh...
20:21:51  <DJNekkid> just plans?
20:21:54  <welshdragon> yes
20:21:58  <DJNekkid> doh!
20:22:04  <welshdragon> but thanks
20:22:12  <DJNekkid> thats 20 minutes well spent :)
20:22:13  <moonmaker> but it is the thread about the antialiasing?
20:22:29  <welshdragon> i'll get something done in a few days ;)
20:22:40  <welshdragon> yes
20:22:46  <welshdragon> read the first post
20:22:58  <welshdragon> it's now my set
20:23:05  <welshdragon> and will be antialiased
20:34:38  <DJNekkid> jesus, insanely tierd at 2230
20:35:22  <Rubidium> luckily it's only 2034 ;)
20:35:48  <DJNekkid> not here...
20:35:53  <DJNekkid> 2235
20:36:27  <Rubidium> nah... 2235 kinda implies American army writing of time, which uses 'zulu' (UTC)
20:36:46  <DJNekkid> i guess a 60+hr workweek has taken its time
20:37:06  <DJNekkid> i thought zulutime were nato standard, not american as such
20:37:26  <Rubidium> true-ish
20:38:27  <DJNekkid> hehe
20:38:27  <Rubidium> nevertheless, timezones are a bitch in international channels
20:38:32  <DJNekkid> sure is ...
20:38:41  <DJNekkid> good thing _most_ of us are in CET :)
20:38:51  * Rubidium isn't
20:38:55  <DJNekkid> some occational GMT freaks :p
20:39:05  * Rubidium happily lives in CEST
20:40:07  <DJNekkid> CEST then ... :)
20:41:26  <Rubidium> although I haven't had real problems in other timezones
20:42:09  <DJNekkid> quote wikipedia:"Note that CEST is commonly referred to as CET" :p
20:43:14  <DJNekkid> and you know, wikipedia is the "commonly agreed truth" :D
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20:55:53  <andythenorth> yay, ADSL is in my new house
20:55:58  <andythenorth> no more stupid 3g modem
20:56:33  <andythenorth> DJNekkid: I pm'ed you about parameter for capacity
20:57:37  <DJNekkid> oki? :)
20:57:58  <DJNekkid> ehm
20:58:18  <DJNekkid> my thought were merly a simple "skip if this or that", and multiple action0s
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21:10:46  <andythenorth> DJNekkid: that could work, but it could be a lot of duplication?
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21:13:24  <DJNekkid> a lot :)
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