Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 8th September 2009:
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01:11:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2706: (svn r2859) Translation updates @ (by winterheart)
01:33:49  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 98M)
01:33:49  <Brot6> All right, you degenerates! I want this place evacuated in 20 seconds!
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12:41:34  <Ammler> He, I guess, I am able to trigger rpm builds at
12:41:49  <planetmaker> nice! :-)
12:42:14  <Ammler> but how to build a nightly rpm?
12:42:29  <Ammler> and how to include opengfx
12:42:40  <planetmaker> I don't think that makes sense to have nightly rpms, or?
12:42:45  <planetmaker> just for releases
12:43:08  <Ammler> well, if I can trigger them automatically it does.
12:43:16  <Ammler> as the cf doesn't support suse.
12:43:35  <planetmaker> hm, ok
12:43:59  <Ammler> well, I guess, I would make "openttdcoop" builds
12:44:39  <Ammler> specially for guys like tneo, he doesn't like to build it self.
12:44:40  <Rubidium> well... supporting stuff you don't have a clue about is quite hard
12:45:39  <Rubidium> and if *only* there was one rpm format that can be used for all, but no... one can't do that
12:45:46  <planetmaker> I think it was not a demand, but just a statement :-)
12:46:10  <planetmaker> there are zillions of formats around.
12:46:24  <Rubidium> but what does "cf doesn't support X" mean?
12:46:28  <Ammler> Rubidium: is the rpm spec from your repo working for fedora?
12:46:44  <Ammler> or which distro is it for?
12:46:45  <planetmaker> Rubidium, exactly that.
12:46:45  <Rubidium> it'd be saying that the openttdcoop cf doesn't support ottd_grf
12:47:09  <planetmaker> nothing more or less.
12:47:31  <Rubidium> it's more a "isn't set up to make X"
12:47:43  <planetmaker> that's the same basically, isn't it? ;-)
12:47:44  <Rubidium> Ammler: just take a look at the ifs in the rpm
12:48:00  <Rubidium> s/rpm/spec/
12:48:22  <Rubidium> 3 different names for e.g. freetype
12:48:52  <planetmaker> finally, finally today my SnowLeopard got shipped from Amazon. Took the German post bloody 7 days...!
12:49:50  <Ammler> as I used the spec from, the buildserver failed, but maybe I am able to find the reason why.
12:50:43  <Ammler> isn't the right freetype part of configure?
12:50:55  <Ammler> hmm, dependencies.
12:53:05  * Rubidium blames the number of disjoint rpm implementations for most failures :)
12:53:41  <Ammler> BuildRequires:  gcc-c++ libstdc++-devel update-desktop-files
12:53:42  <Ammler> BuildRequires:  zlib-devel libpng-devel freetype2-devel SDL-devel
12:53:43  <Rubidium> Ammler: what spec did you try?
12:54:00  <Ammler> the one, the community uses fro opensuse stables
12:54:19  <Rubidium> but the spec that failed
12:54:34  <Ammler>
12:54:46  <Ammler> I will try again with the spec
12:55:01  <Rubidium> use the branches/0.7 or trunk one
12:55:14  <Ammler>
12:56:29  <Ammler> there is no requires in the spec I used.
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13:15:50  <Ammler> also the other spec does just run simple "./configure"
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13:24:01  <Ammler> checking libicu... not found <-- from the opensue configure
13:27:41  <Ammler> <-- packman spec, from where I usually install openttd
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16:18:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r267)
16:18:02  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r217)
16:18:02  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r99)
16:18:02  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169)
16:18:03  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r200)
16:18:03  <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r41)
16:18:04  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r532)
16:18:27  <Frankr> still no nightlies needed, :)
16:18:58  <Rubidium> yeah, no-one draws, codes or makes sounds :(
16:19:29  <Frankr> well there have been alot of painters for WAS
16:19:49  <Frankr> but i've been busy and beardie has been inactive for a month now
16:22:02  <Frankr> anyway i'm off cya
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18:24:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #513: Parameters @ (by DJNekkid)
18:36:32  <DJNekkid> Rubidium: can i get your view on that?
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19:14:55  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #564: Transrapid 05 and 07 - CODE @ (by lawton27)
19:14:55  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #565: Transrapid 06 - CODE @ (by lawton27)
19:18:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #566: Transrapid 08 - CODE @ (by lawton27)
19:18:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #567: Transrapid 09 - CODE @ (by lawton27)
19:18:53  <DJNekkid> hey planetmaker...
19:19:07  <DJNekkid> i tried to "make remake" the nmts, as i added a train
19:19:23  <DJNekkid> but it didnt do that at all, it only coded like 3 of them
19:19:53  <planetmaker> hm.
19:20:02  <planetmaker> did you add the files to nmts.pnfo?
19:20:06  <planetmaker> the additional ones?
19:20:06  <DJNekkid> no?
19:20:18  <DJNekkid> i thought it took "*.pnfo"
19:20:19  <DJNekkid> ?
19:20:25  <planetmaker> nope
19:20:33  <DJNekkid> cant it do that? :P
19:20:36  <planetmaker> everything you want added has to be in nmts.pnfo
19:20:41  <planetmaker> it could. But I don't like it
19:20:46  <planetmaker> it leads to errors
19:20:54  <planetmaker> like forgotten files etc
19:21:00  <DJNekkid> well, sprites\nfomus\*.pnfo then?
19:21:07  <zachanima> alright, I'm going to ask a possibly stupid question. Why are there separate String ID text files (ie. src/lang/esperanto.txt) when they all use (or should use, I think) the same identifiers?
19:21:13  <zachanima> also hi ^^
19:21:19  <DJNekkid> try #openttd :)
19:21:21  <planetmaker> sprites/nfo/09mus/name1.pnfo
19:21:28  <planetmaker> sprites/nfo/09mus/name2.pnfo
19:21:30  <planetmaker> etc
19:21:42  <planetmaker> please don't use wild cards there
19:21:54  <zachanima> alright, thanks DJNekkid
19:21:56  <planetmaker> you might try, but I don't guarantee anything than.
19:21:58  <planetmaker> *then
19:22:08  <planetmaker> as I haven't tested it with wildcards.
19:22:40  <DJNekkid> i'll try :P
19:23:43  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: I strongly advise against them.
19:23:58  <planetmaker> It's ugly. And may lead to errors nearly impossible to track
19:24:23  <planetmaker> Or let's say: I don't support projects which use them in the source list ;-)
19:24:42  <DJNekkid> hehe
19:24:50  <planetmaker> because it adds so many sources of errors that I don't feel like checking.
19:25:26  <DJNekkid> even in such a specified dir?
19:25:37  <DJNekkid> where there are ONLY mus :P
19:26:33  <DJNekkid> less hassle to add new stuff
19:27:22  <planetmaker> yes.
19:27:25  <planetmaker> Even there.
19:27:37  <planetmaker> Then you add a template.pnfo. And zoompf
19:28:03  <planetmaker> Also it specifies exactly the order the pnfo files are included.
19:28:25  <planetmaker> Makes it independent from any choice of whatever file system or whatever orders them when using wildcards.
19:28:35  <DJNekkid> okidoki ... either way...
19:28:39  <planetmaker> Thus it's the only guarantee that the same grf is produced on different computers
19:28:52  <planetmaker> and it's not like it will hurt you to type a few lines ;-)
19:29:02  <planetmaker> rather it'll tell later what is exactly in the grf
19:29:06  <Rubidium> DJNekkid: what?
19:29:16  <DJNekkid> *look in 2cc set ... only about 10k lines typed* :p
19:29:32  <DJNekkid> rub:
19:29:34  <planetmaker> see. 10 won't hurt you then ;-)
19:30:00  <DJNekkid> i thought some stuff were introduced at some point to use wildcards...
19:30:08  <Ammler> DJNekkid: another bug you should fix first:
19:30:58  <DJNekkid> Ammler: didnt know about this until now, and yes, its fixed :)
19:31:20  <Ammler> quite old issue
19:31:42  <DJNekkid> didnt even know it exsisted until now :P
19:35:22  <Ammler> Rubidium: is the rpm in your repo somewhere in use?
19:36:13  <Rubidium> Ammler: I have no idea, except that someone complained that it didn't work on centos
19:37:16  <Ammler> was missing: BuildRequires: gcc-c++
19:38:28  <Ammler> dunno, maybe some other errors, currently the suse build system is very slow, you need around 4 hours for one job.
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20:14:42  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Revision 5: fix 538, added meigs @ (by DJNekkid)
20:14:42  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Bug #538 (Closed): [Makefile] wrong filenames @ (by DJNekkid)
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21:09:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Revision 6: minor adjustments to the meigs @ (by DJNekkid)
21:09:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Revision 7: added the ML100 @ (by DJNekkid)
21:16:07  <Ammler> DJNekkid: you should use your global config file for the username.
21:16:20  <Ammler> so you don't have different nicks on every repo.
21:16:56  <Ammler> in windows, it is iirc mercurial.ini
21:17:23  <Ammler> where you defined the ssh key.
21:41:06  <Ammler> <-- rpm spec now work until installation
22:11:42  <Rubidium> what's the stuff it's whining about? The file is valid as per the newest specs
22:16:46  <Rubidium> saying it's invalid because you don't like the specs is just a bad thing to do
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