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01:12:57 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2725: (svn r2885) CHANGELOG update @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2725 (by jplang) 01:33:54 <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 98M) 01:33:54 <Brot6> Let's send the Russians defective lifestyle accessories! 02:12:31 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2726: (svn r2887) Upgraded to Rails 2.3.4 (#3597) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2726 (by edavis10) 02:12:31 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2727: (svn r2888) Russian update (#3859) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2727 (by winterheart) 02:12:31 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2728: update tags @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2728 (by convert-repo) 02:41:40 *** Audigex has quit IRC 05:37:53 *** DJ_Nekkid has quit IRC 06:04:51 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:04:56 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DJNekkid 06:49:42 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 08:40:01 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:40:16 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v ODM 09:24:38 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:24:50 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 10:49:42 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:49:43 *** Mark is now known as Guest2472 10:49:43 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 10:49:54 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Mark 10:50:53 *** Guest2472 has quit IRC 12:00:25 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:00:30 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Doorslammer 12:33:17 *** zachanima has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:33:32 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v zachanima 13:48:26 *** zachanim1 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:48:41 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v zachanim1 14:47:13 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Wiki edit: New_location (#1) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/16/wiki/New_location?version=1 (by Ammler) 14:47:13 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 104: Change: added graphics for loaded state to Large Coaster @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/104 (by andythenorth) 14:47:13 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 105: Change: (experimental) added a wake to one angle of the large coaster using ... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/105 (by andythenorth) 14:47:45 <Ammler> ? 14:56:51 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:56:56 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Frankr 15:12:24 *** zachanim1 has quit IRC 15:12:37 *** zachanima has quit IRC 15:12:59 *** zachanima has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:13:14 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v zachanima 15:16:06 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 15:23:37 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2726: (svn r2887) Upgraded to Rails 2.3.4 (#3597) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2726 (by edavis10) 15:23:37 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2727: (svn r2888) Russian update (#3859) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2727 (by winterheart) 15:23:37 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2728: update tags @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2728 (by convert-repo) 16:02:25 *** Frankr has quit IRC 16:07:19 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 16:09:59 *** ODM has quit IRC 16:13:07 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:13:19 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 16:18:01 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r267) 16:18:01 <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r217) 16:18:02 <Brot6> fish: update from r103 to r111, starting nightly compile 16:18:27 <Brot6> fish: compile done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/ 16:18:27 <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169) 16:18:28 <Brot6> nmts: update from r12 to r14, starting nightly compile 16:18:42 <Brot6> nmts: compile done (40 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nmts/nightlies/ 16:18:42 <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r200) 16:18:43 <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r41) 16:18:43 <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r538) 16:19:03 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:19:08 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Frankr 16:43:35 <planetmaker> [18:30] <Ammler> [23:35:51] possible make bundle_zip does create another grf than make bananas? <-- it should not. As it should call the same make routines and then only creates a tar from it. 16:43:42 <planetmaker> there's no duplication of those code lines 16:43:51 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Bug #572: General compile issues @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/572 (by Ammler) 16:43:54 <planetmaker> which actually make the grf 16:59:18 <Ammler> planetmaker: it is a bit strange, but I can't reproduce it. 17:02:35 <planetmaker> hm 17:03:24 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:03:29 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Doorslammer 17:05:25 *** Frankr has quit IRC 17:09:16 <Doorslammer> Hello? Quick q 17:09:43 <Doorslammer> What GPL version number are we up to? 17:11:14 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:11:19 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Frankr 17:11:22 <welshdragon> GPL v3 i think 17:12:41 <Doorslammer> Cheers 17:12:45 <Doorslammer> Hey, welsh 17:12:53 <Doorslammer> Going ahead with the breakaway 17:13:12 <Doorslammer> British Rail OpenTTD Set, or to be known as, BROS 17:13:25 <Doorslammer> Is now in progress 17:20:47 <planetmaker> he 17:20:57 <planetmaker> what repo will be the one I created? :-) 17:21:09 <planetmaker> well... it could be all at once... 17:21:12 <planetmaker> with a bit of planning 17:21:50 <Doorslammer> Just taking the time to do a proper updatable spreadsheet 18:06:25 *** Frankr has quit IRC 18:06:46 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 18:10:34 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:10:40 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Doorslammer 18:15:27 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:15:32 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Frankr 18:30:31 <Frankr> Doorslammer: Have you removed you sprites from the BRSet? 18:30:50 <Doorslammer> Yes 18:31:19 <Frankr> What you gunna do with them? 18:32:15 <Frankr> Doorslammer: Could you go on Msn please 18:32:20 <Frankr> Alex wants to talk 18:33:14 <Frankr> More commonly known as ExtSpotter 18:33:22 <Frankr> and Beardie 18:33:36 <Doorslammer> I haven't got MSN on my laptop 18:33:40 <Doorslammer> Can they come here? 18:33:53 <Frankr> yh i'll get them here 18:34:25 <Doorslammer> Cheers 18:34:33 <Frankr> they'll be on in a min 18:34:35 *** Beardie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:34:40 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Beardie 18:34:54 <Beardie> Hey 18:35:20 <Doorslammer> Evening 18:35:26 <Beardie> Hey Dave 18:35:28 <Doorslammer> EXT on his way? 18:35:37 <Beardie> i heard about all the BR set commotion 18:35:44 <Doorslammer> Yeah, well... 18:36:19 <Beardie> and why extaclly 18:36:40 <Frankr> may as well wait for Ext 18:36:44 <Beardie> lol 18:36:53 <Frankr> no point repeatin things 18:37:36 <Doorslammer> True 18:40:09 *** extspotter has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:40:14 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v extspotter 18:40:17 <extspotter> hmm 18:40:22 <Chris_Booth> extspotter: this one? 18:40:33 <extspotter> I thought so 18:40:48 <extspotter> I might be wrong tho lol 18:40:58 *** extspotter has quit IRC 18:41:00 <Doorslammer> This one 18:41:01 <Chris_Booth> what do you want to do? 18:41:04 <Doorslammer> Oh for 18:41:13 <Doorslammer> ? 18:41:26 <Chris_Booth> he asked me for the devzone IRC address 18:41:30 <Chris_Booth> so i gave it to him 18:41:40 <Doorslammer> Wonder where he went then 18:41:44 *** extspotter has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:41:49 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v extspotter 18:41:56 <extspotter> humz 18:42:02 <Frankr> wb 18:42:03 <Doorslammer> Stay there 18:42:04 <extspotter> doorslammeh! 18:42:06 <Frankr> this one 18:42:11 <Doorslammer> Right, we got him 18:42:13 <extspotter> noone spoke apart from chris... 18:42:19 <Frankr> sorry 18:42:21 <Doorslammer> OK, the story is this 18:42:23 <Frankr> we were here 18:42:30 <Frankr> type our name to get our attention 18:42:36 <Frankr> flashes up 18:42:40 <Doorslammer> Since the BRSet has literally fell apart 18:42:42 <extspotter> frankr smells 18:42:47 <Frankr> haha 18:42:51 <Doorslammer> I have withdrawn my support to them 18:42:56 <extspotter> I agree with that 18:42:59 <Frankr> Lol 18:43:00 <Beardie> humm 18:43:04 <Doorslammer> And will start up an OTTD only set called BROS 18:43:04 <Beardie> well Doorslammer 18:43:09 <Frankr> we were thinking of making a new one 18:43:10 <Beardie> BROS? 18:43:12 <Doorslammer> British Rail OpenTTD Set 18:43:15 <extspotter> I think beardie should too then we can make the DMU domination set :D 18:43:23 <Doorslammer> But... 18:43:24 <Beardie> Doorslammer 18:43:39 <Doorslammer> I do need your permission, considering most of your work is still visible on the forum 18:43:44 <Beardie> i give u permission to use my repaints of your sprties 18:43:48 <Beardie> :) 18:43:51 <Doorslammer> Thank you 18:43:52 <extspotter> I give you permission also 18:43:54 <Doorslammer> EXT? 18:43:58 <Frankr> well that waseasy 18:43:58 <Beardie> its not like they are going to use them 18:43:58 <Doorslammer> Thank you also 18:44:02 <extspotter> so you have lots of 1st gen and 2 153s :D 18:44:02 <Frankr> lol 18:44:04 <Doorslammer> No 18:44:06 <Doorslammer> True 18:44:09 <Frankr> they have no set now 18:44:15 <Beardie> true Frank 18:44:32 <extspotter> they should have started coding before I got bored lol 18:44:44 <extspotter> thats why WAS rules 18:44:46 <Doorslammer> Yep 18:44:47 <Frankr> well all that is left is nothing 18:44:58 <Frankr> Only old paints and Audigex 18:45:06 <Doorslammer> So now I need to gather those sprites as well 18:45:06 <extspotter> what about him? 18:45:15 <Beardie> what has audigex said about this> 18:45:20 <Doorslammer> Best post your withdrawals in public too 18:45:21 <extspotter> do you think he will support? 18:45:29 <Doorslammer> He won't 18:45:31 <Beardie> i also reapainted som Class 47s 18:45:35 <Doorslammer> But I don't know 18:45:37 <extspotter> why? 18:45:37 <Beardie> and you did the 37s no? 18:45:41 <Doorslammer> 47s are dead 18:45:47 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:45:49 <Doorslammer> Ronstar left and they can't use anything he had 18:45:52 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v andythenorth 18:45:55 <Doorslammer> I did the 37s 18:45:57 <Doorslammer> They are safe 18:46:10 <Frankr> Start a new and it will be finished first 18:46:16 <Frankr> 6 years of nothing 18:46:26 <Beardie> rofl 18:46:29 <extspotter> ok 18:46:37 <extspotter> what types do we have? 18:46:37 <Frankr> Doorslammer 18:46:39 <Doorslammer> I know 18:46:45 <Frankr> best create a new forum 18:46:45 <Doorslammer> Types? 18:46:49 <Doorslammer> No 18:46:50 <welshdragon> *sigh* 18:46:54 <Doorslammer> First rule, no new forums 18:46:56 <welshdragon> can i get involved? 18:47:02 <Doorslammer> TTF subforum if need be 18:47:07 <Doorslammer> Please do 18:47:08 <welshdragon> i know i support the BRSet 18:47:12 <extspotter> 108, 109, 114, 116, 117, 118, 121, 122, 124, 130, 131 18:47:13 <welshdragon> but it's dead 18:47:27 <extspotter> its not BRset its BROS 18:47:33 <Beardie> welshdragon we are thinking of remaking it and making a GRF! 18:47:37 <welshdragon> i know 18:47:38 <Beardie> finally 18:47:43 <welshdragon> but 18:47:47 <Doorslammer> Good grief, guys, he has followed this 18:47:51 <welshdragon> there is to be no one leader 18:47:52 <Beardie> lopl 18:47:55 <Beardie> sorry 18:47:56 <Frankr> i can help out with some coding if necessary 18:48:00 <extspotter> frank 18:48:03 <extspotter> dont go near them 18:48:05 <Frankr> yh 18:48:06 <extspotter> I want you lol 18:48:08 <Frankr> lol 18:48:16 * extspotter throws himself at frank 18:48:32 <Beardie> the no leader thing is a good idea 18:48:38 <Doorslammer> I'm open to the no new leader 18:48:42 <welshdragon> it just causes ego trips 18:48:50 <welshdragon> and is a royal PITA 18:48:51 <Doorslammer> I just want something everyone can control 18:48:51 <Frankr> I think that is how WAS has worked 18:49:00 <Doorslammer> csuke is too controlling still 18:49:00 <Beardie> well with WAS we really don;t have a leader, we just decide as a group 18:49:10 <Doorslammer> Your group is best 18:49:32 <Frankr> We all input and decisions are made by majority 18:49:41 <Frankr> fair system 18:49:45 <Beardie> though i do make some decisions without asking anyone 18:49:47 <Beardie> lol 18:49:57 <Frankr> well that is ocassionally needed 18:50:03 <welshdragon> yes 18:50:06 <Frankr> but u don't do them often beardie 18:50:15 <Beardie> no true 18:50:21 <Beardie> and i do ask if its a good idea 18:50:32 <Beardie> like the 5 reapints pre plane idea 18:50:40 <Beardie> repaints per* 18:50:41 <welshdragon> how would you feel calling it the UK Rail Set 18:50:42 <extspotter> dave 18:50:46 <Doorslammer> Well, I have the table ready, I just need to detail it with the stuff already done 18:50:49 <welshdragon> and we combine the UK Bus set 18:50:55 <Beardie> humm 18:51:02 <extspotter> my repository on this comp is fucked 18:51:10 <Doorslammer> Ermmm... I did like my cool acronym 18:51:23 <extspotter> we dont want to touch bus set, their stuff is poorly made and headed by leanden 18:51:24 <Doorslammer> But a name is not important 18:51:24 <Beardie> BROS and WAS 18:51:36 <welshdragon> extspotter: it's headed by me actually 18:51:41 <Doorslammer> lol 18:51:43 <Beardie> lol 18:51:44 <Doorslammer> Foot in mouth 18:51:54 <extspotter> I still say that the sprites arent up to much... 18:52:00 <welshdragon> and everything we had is now in the bin 18:52:03 <Doorslammer> Mine was ok, ish 18:52:04 <Beardie> Doorslammer: Are we going for a Repo? etc 18:52:07 <extspotter> yes 18:52:12 <extspotter> get dev one 18:52:13 <Doorslammer> Yes 18:52:16 <Beardie> good 18:52:17 <welshdragon> as we are using a slightly bigger scale 18:52:24 <extspotter> dave, can you take all my work over there 18:52:30 <Doorslammer> Why dont we just rename the one that's already here? 18:52:33 <extspotter> and get the table with all the 1st egn stuff 18:52:42 <Doorslammer> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tBpimaFD-OwHvusDTKXTgGg&output=html 18:52:44 <Webster> Title: BROS (at spreadsheets.google.com) 18:52:45 <Doorslammer> Full table 18:52:58 <welshdragon> hmm 18:53:32 <welshdragon> Doorslammer: you are missing a load of stuff 18:53:43 <Doorslammer> I haven't actually got wagons in there I realise 18:53:45 <extspotter> yeah 18:53:47 <welshdragon> your table seems to end abruptly at 127 18:53:55 <Doorslammer> No no no 18:53:58 <extspotter> and it stops at 126, but 1st gen goes up to 131 18:54:00 <Doorslammer> There are page links 18:54:08 <Doorslammer> Up on the top 18:54:14 <Doorslammer> I run out of page 18:54:41 <welshdragon> you can addd more rows 18:55:09 <Doorslammer> Where it says Sheet 1, Sheet 2, Sheet 3 18:55:13 <Doorslammer> Those are links 18:55:41 <Doorslammer> I still havent got wagons, coaches etc. though 18:55:54 <Beardie> are we recycling this? http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/brset 18:55:54 <Doorslammer> But the TOPS list is done 18:57:11 <Beardie> any thoughts? 18:57:34 <Doorslammer> Yes, but again, we have no control over the list 18:57:49 <Beardie> over the list? 18:58:00 <Doorslammer> We dont, yes 18:58:21 <Beardie> i do though 18:58:24 <Frankr> Dave Worley replied on TTD forums, my god 18:58:37 <Doorslammer> Ugh, that's not as good as it sounds 18:58:57 <Beardie> Sorry which list are we talking about? 18:58:59 <Frankr> I do beleive when i say this i speak for all, Why the hell do all the retired guys stick their necks in 18:59:10 <Frankr> Why don't they just sod off 18:59:20 <Doorslammer> I know, he didnt want anything to do with us a month ago 18:59:33 <Doorslammer> I want everyone to escape that 18:59:49 <Beardie> where he reply? 19:00:01 <Frankr> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=25728&start=1120 19:00:02 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - BR Set [WIP][EXPERIENCED AND NEW ARTISTS WANTED!] (at www.tt-forums.net) 19:00:34 <welshdragon> so 19:01:07 <welshdragon> what now? 19:01:37 <Doorslammer> Well, do we get ourselves set up with a subforum at TTF tonight? 19:01:43 <Doorslammer> 3am here 19:02:24 <Beardie> called? 19:02:25 <extspotter> owen can sort it out 19:02:43 <Doorslammer> Yes, I havent asked as yet 19:02:46 <Beardie> subforum? 19:03:00 <Doorslammer> On OTTD Graphics 19:03:17 <Beardie> ? 19:03:21 <Beardie> Called? 19:03:29 <Doorslammer> Well, I don't know 19:03:38 <Beardie> and what for? 19:03:39 <Doorslammer> Do we want to go with UK Rail Set 19:03:41 <Doorslammer> Or BROS 19:03:48 <Beardie> Sorry 19:03:50 <extspotter> borsct 19:03:55 <Doorslammer> ? 19:03:58 <Beardie> You donlt have a subforum for a set 19:04:05 <Beardie> you have a thread 19:04:10 <Beardie> but not a sub forum 19:04:15 <Doorslammer> Owen said we could if asked 19:04:23 <extspotter> british open rail shit carriage trains 19:04:29 <Beardie> So its going to be like a forum but based inside OTTD 19:04:33 <andythenorth> Evening 19:04:40 <Doorslammer> Sort of, yes 19:04:41 <andythenorth> So the BR set exploded then? 19:04:43 <extspotter> eenin 19:04:44 <Beardie> TT-Forums sorry 19:04:48 <Doorslammer> Still public, but easily sorted 19:04:48 <Beardie> yes andy 19:04:51 <extspotter> yarpppp 19:05:05 <andythenorth> What a load of batshit crazy talk all that is. Stupid stupid stupid 19:05:15 <Doorslammer> :/ 19:05:23 <extspotter> about what in particular 19:05:32 <Doorslammer> I think he refers to me 19:05:33 <andythenorth> I don't know who's right and who's wrong and I don't care. Three small letters: GPL 19:05:42 <extspotter> as a painter I was unhappy with the way t was run and so were many others 19:05:48 <Doorslammer> Exactly 19:05:51 <Beardie> GPL? 19:06:01 <Doorslammer> GPL v3 to be exact 19:06:05 <Beardie> yes i know its a licens but i don't know it 19:06:09 <extspotter> lol 19:06:10 <extspotter> same 19:06:18 <extspotter> thats global publishing right 19:06:28 <andythenorth> "Strangelove, or how I learned to stop worrying and love the GPL" 19:06:38 <andythenorth> anyway, carry on 19:06:41 <welshdragon> Right 19:06:48 <welshdragon> I have resigned from the BRSet 19:06:55 <welshdragon> and invited Audigex 19:06:55 <Doorslammer> Yes, we all did 19:06:58 <extspotter> does that mean we can use any graphics which we had from the set? 19:07:00 <Doorslammer> Have we? 19:07:06 <Doorslammer> Yes, we can 19:07:13 <Doorslammer> I'm not redrawing all that again 19:07:22 <andythenorth> One of the things I have enjoyed about #opendttdcoop.devzone is that there has been very little politics.... 19:07:26 <andythenorth> ...and a lot of useful work 19:07:37 <welshdragon> I've left anything i've reskinned for their use 19:07:44 <welshdragon> as it doesn't bother me 19:08:01 <Doorslammer> It's not really politics as such, more a privacy issue 19:08:08 <Frankr> BRSet had very bad leaders 19:08:36 *** Audigex has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:08:37 <Frankr> If you can call them leaders 19:08:41 <andythenorth> Ok, let me bang on for a few lines about a few things: 19:08:42 <extspotter> less lead from the front than just bitch and dealue painters 19:08:48 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Audigex 19:08:53 <Frankr> lol 19:08:57 <Doorslammer> Yes 19:08:59 <extspotter> value 19:09:01 <andythenorth> The best open source projects are generally measured by how often they produce something useful 19:09:03 <Doorslammer> That was the second problem 19:09:08 <Audigex> oh jesus, the argument is in here too? 19:09:10 <Audigex> great fun 19:09:18 <Doorslammer> People who had "left" still sticking their oar in 19:09:19 <Audigex> let me know when y'all have gotten over it, i'm going to go draw some trains ¬_¬ 19:09:22 <extspotter> evening audigex 19:09:28 <Audigex> hi ext 19:09:28 <Frankr> andy that was the main problem after 7 years nothing useful had been made 19:09:33 <Doorslammer> Ah, but who are you drawing for? 19:09:37 <welshdragon> Audigex: hang on a sec 19:09:39 <Audigex> door - i'm drawing under the GPL 19:09:45 <Audigex> i dont give a shit who uses it 19:09:46 <andythenorth> ^^ Audigex has the right attitude 19:09:48 <Audigex> i'm just finishing this set 19:09:56 <andythenorth> That way things will get done 19:10:12 <Beardie> yes 19:10:20 <Frankr> e.g. WAS 19:10:32 <Beardie> but since worley pulled out and leander is doing nothing 19:10:39 <Audigex> i'd prefer if it's only released in a complete BRset, i'd also prefer it if everyone could stop being a child and put their drawings back 19:10:42 <extspotter> audigex is BR's faddypainter 19:10:43 <Beardie> there is no point carrying on with the current set 19:10:48 <Audigex> faddypainter? 19:10:56 <extspotter> he is uhmazing 19:11:01 <Frankr> best plane painter 19:11:03 <extspotter> look on the was thread 19:11:13 <Frankr> he is the best and nobody shall nick him 19:11:14 <extspotter> in ttdx graphics 19:11:19 <Audigex> i dont play much with planes 19:11:29 <extspotter> he is a planespotter anyway so he is happy where he is 19:11:31 <Frankr> even tho it isn't goin to be a ttdx grpahic 19:11:38 <extspotter> no, but just look at his paint schemes 19:11:46 <andythenorth> aaaaahhhhhhh....noisy in here tonight 19:11:51 <Beardie> lol 19:12:05 <Frankr> audigex we just want to give people the ability to use planes 19:12:09 <andythenorth> So what is the new BR set's *working title* 19:12:12 <Frankr> and many varieties of them 19:12:30 <Audigex> last i checked, the br set's working title was the "brset" 19:12:46 <Frankr> nice comment btw andy 19:12:51 <Frankr> on ttd forums 19:12:53 <andythenorth> Has anybody released code under the title brset? 19:12:57 <Frankr> no 19:13:10 <andythenorth> Use that title then 19:13:14 <Beardie> Well Audigex we are all pulling ouy, not going to use the BR Set Forujm becuase csuke is complaining and putting them all in a repo to get the coding going 19:13:25 <andythenorth> Private forum is batshit crazy 19:13:32 <Beardie> indeed 19:13:37 <Audigex> if thats what you want to do, go for it 19:13:40 <Audigex> as i said, my stuff is gpl 19:13:43 <Audigex> do what you want with it 19:13:46 <Audigex> i'll keep pumping it out 19:13:48 <Frankr> we have a place to store planes and that is it 19:13:48 <Audigex> one note, however 19:13:52 <Audigex> i work far better in a forum environment 19:13:57 <Beardie> ok 19:13:57 <andythenorth> Private forum is crazy for the same reason Dalestan won't answer nfo questions by PM, only on the forum 19:13:59 <Beardie> Well 19:13:59 <Audigex> look at any of my threads, i'm constantly looking for feedback 19:14:07 <Beardie> we are talking to own about a BR Sert subforum on TT-Forums 19:14:13 <Beardie> owen* 19:14:15 <Audigex> that works for me 19:14:18 <Beardie> or going to should i say 19:14:27 <andythenorth> Is the set so big it can't go in one thread? 19:14:29 <Doorslammer> Im doing that now as we speak 19:14:33 <andythenorth> FIRS only has two threads 19:14:38 <Audigex> if it all goes to shit, however, i'll just put them on my own blog 19:14:42 <andythenorth> NARS is huge and has two threads 19:14:50 <Audigex> andy - each of my sprites runs to about 4 pages 19:14:52 <andythenorth> CanSet is huge and has two threads 19:14:57 <extspotter> to make coding easier subforums are best 19:14:59 <Audigex> and the brset has 200 trains+ already 19:15:13 <andythenorth> No, to make coding easier, a repo is best. Anything else is batshit crazy 19:15:13 <extspotter> worldairlinerset.forumotion.com 19:15:21 <Audigex> like i said - i don't care 19:15:28 <Audigex> my stuff is gpl, it's going on csuke's forum 19:15:30 <Frankr> and WAS has 100+ planes already, lol 19:15:32 <welshdragon> If orudge refuses 19:15:38 <Audigex> if anyone wants to keep my work ethic going, keep posting replies to me 19:15:42 <Audigex> if not, do what you like 19:15:44 <welshdragon> the UK Bus Set forums welcome the BROS coders and artists 19:15:48 <Audigex> anyway, i'm going to draw 19:15:52 <Audigex> let me know if anyone grows up 19:15:56 <Beardie> ok Audi 19:15:58 <andythenorth> Audigex: why can't you just drop your stuff in the ttdf forum and on your blog 19:15:59 <andythenorth> ?? 19:16:04 <andythenorth> I'm trying to help us grow up :D 19:16:08 <Audigex> because i dont like the "single thread" idea 19:16:11 <andythenorth> sorry ttd forum 19:16:19 <Audigex> i want a thread which just involves my model, with comments about it 19:16:19 <andythenorth> Start your own "Audigex's cool graphics" 19:16:29 <Audigex> i dont have time to go back through 5/6 pages for replies 19:16:33 <Audigex> i'd rather just have 19:16:37 <Audigex> v1 - comments about v1 19:16:41 <Audigex> v2 - comments about v2 and v1 19:16:44 <Audigex> etc 19:16:46 <Audigex> all in one thread 19:16:50 <Audigex> with no other bullshit in the way 19:16:53 <extspotter> you get that on ttf 19:16:57 <Audigex> so it'll go on my blog, with comments and new versions below 19:17:01 <extspotter> plus you'll get a load more people helping you 19:17:12 <welshdragon> I don't care which set my stuff goes into either 19:17:14 <Audigex> extspotter: only if i make a new thread for each sprite 19:17:15 <extspotter> because the amount of traffic will be much higher 19:17:30 <Audigex> i'll also be converting my drawings into 2cc 19:17:39 <Doorslammer> News! 19:17:50 <Beardie> o Doorslammer? 19:17:51 <extspotter> Muse! 19:17:54 <Doorslammer> It could be a while to set up at the moment 19:17:54 <Beardie> :D 19:18:02 <Beardie> How Come? 19:18:03 <Frankr> :p 19:18:05 <Doorslammer> But we can continue with a new thread 19:18:11 <Doorslammer> It's complex 19:18:15 <Beardie> lol 19:18:15 <Doorslammer> But understandable 19:18:20 <andythenorth> Audigex: I see your point about threads, but in a private forum, you won't get my feedback...or DaleStan's...or planetmakers...or Ammler's...or Pikka's...or Ammler's....or FooBar's....or Belugas....or etc 19:18:23 <extspotter> make a new forumotion forum then 19:18:25 <Beardie> But still Woen says its possible? 19:18:26 <welshdragon> Audigex: i can provide you with your own area if orudge doesn't allow a subforum 19:18:27 <welshdragon> in fact 19:18:54 <welshdragon> i'd do that for every artist :) 19:19:30 <Doorslammer> Its a week away from discussion with the mods involved 19:19:34 <Doorslammer> So its very doable 19:19:34 <welshdragon> and allow them to moderate their own section 19:19:34 <welshdragon> (am i winning any prizes yet?) 19:19:44 <Doorslammer> lol 19:19:49 <Doorslammer> I cant see that being the case 19:20:09 <Audigex> andythenorth: i'm happy for the forum to be public 19:20:12 <Audigex> i just want it grouped 19:20:16 <Audigex> like i said 19:20:17 <Beardie> it will be under moderation via the Gernal TT-Forusm mods 19:20:20 <Audigex> i'll set up a wordpress 19:20:22 <Audigex> throw sprites on there 19:20:34 <Audigex> and put the picture on tt-forums with a "comment here" link 19:20:37 <andythenorth> Audigex: sounds like a win 19:20:41 <Audigex> no registration required 19:20:41 *** extspotter has quit IRC 19:20:54 <Audigex> i'm just officially quitting from the political horse-shit surrounding this 19:21:00 <andythenorth> we love wordpress. apart from the huge security exploit :D 19:21:08 <Doorslammer> lol 19:21:10 <andythenorth> political shit is no fun 19:21:10 <Audigex> powerplay, tantrums and whingey bastards arent "what i signed up for" 19:21:26 <Doorslammer> Same here 19:21:28 <andythenorth> that's why, in my sets, what I say, goes. Same for Pikka, Michael Blunck, etc 19:21:30 <Frankr> well then you signed up for the wrong set 19:21:30 <Beardie> Same 19:21:34 <Doorslammer> But things on occasion have to be said 19:21:34 *** extspotter has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:21:39 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v extspotter 19:21:43 <welshdragon> right 19:21:45 <extspotter> what just happened? 19:21:47 <Doorslammer> It's natural tendency 19:21:51 <Beardie> you left Extspotter 19:21:52 <welshdragon> I'm in my admin panel on my forums 19:21:56 <extspotter> I dc'd 19:22:01 <welshdragon> i can set up a pros forums in 2 minutes 19:22:03 <extspotter> as I was having a bit of a mosh 19:22:12 <andythenorth> welshdragon: will that require registration? 19:22:13 <Frankr> muse thn 19:22:20 <extspotter> Muse! 19:22:20 <welshdragon> andythenorth: about 2 minutes 19:22:32 <Audigex> one important note, guys 19:22:36 <extspotter> I cant stop listening to ma new album 19:22:36 <andythenorth> welshdragon: you'll get low participation from some interesting people 19:22:37 <Audigex> if you're intending to use my stuff 19:22:47 <extspotter> yes 19:22:53 <Audigex> it's licenced GPL - which means that whatever set it's released in must also be released GPL 19:23:01 <extspotter> fine with me 19:23:02 <welshdragon> andythenorth: the forums are publicly viewable 19:23:10 <extspotter> I dont care about the trains I made 19:23:11 <welshdragon> nothing like the BRSet forums 19:23:12 <andythenorth> welshdragon: and to comment? 19:23:12 <Beardie> Welshdragon, lets roll with the tt-forum sub forum, if not allowed we can go for yours if nessary 19:23:24 <Beardie> :) 19:23:24 <welshdragon> Beardie: it'll take time 19:23:32 <welshdragon> i'm in my admin panel now 19:23:45 <welshdragon> andythenorth: to comment is a quick job 19:23:45 <andythenorth> Audigex: that's the beauty of GPL :) 19:23:56 <welshdragon> *quick registration job 19:24:02 <andythenorth> welshdragon: but lots of us just won't bother 19:24:08 <andythenorth> your call, but you'll miss out on feedback 19:24:10 <Doorslammer> We plan GPL v3 anyway 19:24:13 <andythenorth> and encouragement 19:24:18 <Beardie> Welshdragon i can wait 19:24:18 <welshdragon> but as a guest you'll be able to see everyhing 19:24:32 <andythenorth> welshdragon: just my 2p. 19:24:40 <extspotter> traffic is huge on tt-f in comparason 19:24:42 <Doorslammer> welsh, its a grand scheme 19:24:44 <Doorslammer> But... 19:24:53 <extspotter> just need somewhere to host in categories 19:24:54 <Doorslammer> Owen says his forums can easily handle the traffic 19:25:05 <andythenorth> welshdragon: although at my day rate, that would have been about £400 worth of social media consultancy ;) 19:25:07 <Doorslammer> And his is well established for everyone to see no fuss 19:25:20 <Frankr> lol andy 19:25:25 <Doorslammer> So we give the formal location of sprites a rest for this week 19:25:27 <extspotter> andy - why are you so fantastic at everything? 19:25:32 <andythenorth> practice 19:25:36 <andythenorth> and I hide my mistakes 19:25:37 <andythenorth> in public 19:25:54 <Beardie> rofl 19:25:56 <andythenorth> Hide your fuck ups in plain sight, nobody notices 19:26:02 <andythenorth> Same with Pikka 19:26:06 <Frankr> lol 19:26:08 <Doorslammer> :P 19:26:11 <Doorslammer> Subtle 19:26:44 <Beardie> rofl 19:26:50 <extspotter> FIRS + FISH = Orgasmique 19:27:00 <Beardie> rofl 19:27:09 <andythenorth> FIRS + FISH = not done 19:27:13 <Frankr> lol 19:27:14 <extspotter> we are trying to code our cargo planes to carry FIRS cargo and passenger aircraft to carry tourists 19:27:24 <Beardie> You can tell this is a tense caht when not a lot on emoticons are used... :) 19:27:33 <Doorslammer> So guys, I propose waiting for word on the subforum before deciding on the location 19:27:34 <extspotter> :p 19:27:37 <Doorslammer> Agreed? 19:27:41 <extspotter> sure 19:27:44 <Beardie> sure 19:27:46 <extspotter> knock yourself out 19:27:54 <extspotter> start making a different unstarted train 19:27:57 <Doorslammer> I almost have 19:28:02 <Doorslammer> Its 3:30am now 19:28:06 <Beardie> rofl 19:28:06 <extspotter> how about something for a new beginning, 14XX? 19:28:08 <Beardie> Class 31? 19:28:13 <Doorslammer> I have a 31 in the works 19:28:23 <extspotter> I want shteam 19:28:29 <Doorslammer> Ah, yes 19:28:29 <extspotter> GWR tanks 19:28:33 <Doorslammer> The age old problem 19:28:38 <Beardie> anyone want to take Pikkas Steam? 19:28:39 <Doorslammer> Who draws steam? 19:28:41 <Audigex> doorslammer - my stuff is GPLv2 and that's how it's staying 19:28:49 <Audigex> but thats not GPL2+ 19:28:54 <Audigex> v2+ * 19:28:59 <Doorslammer> I think the only difference is Tivoisation 19:29:03 <Audigex> use it under GPLv2 or don't use it 19:29:20 <Doorslammer> Whats the difference between v2 and v3? 19:29:26 <Audigex> as someone (ammler maybe) said to me yesterday 19:29:32 <Audigex> who needs the anti-tivoisation part? 19:29:37 <Doorslammer> True 19:29:40 <andythenorth> You can release things under multiple licenses 19:29:45 <Audigex> last i checked, nobody is going to lock my sprites into a hardware setup 19:29:50 <Audigex> andy, but i'm not going to 19:30:07 <Audigex> gplv2 is the same as openttd, and most openttdcoop grfpack sprites 19:30:18 <Doorslammer> OK, I can roll with that 19:30:26 <Frankr> ours is gplv2 19:30:27 <Audigex> tivoisation = releasing software GPL, but not allowing it to be used on a proprietary hardware setup 19:30:38 <Audigex> eg you can modify the tivo software under the GPL, but not run it on your tivo box 19:30:43 <Audigex> that's not applicable to this anyway 19:30:50 <Doorslammer> No 19:30:54 <Doorslammer> v2 it is then 19:31:03 <Audigex> and i dont see any other changes in GPLv3 that would be worth moving it away from openttd's license 19:31:14 <welshdragon> right 19:31:14 <welshdragon> sorry 19:31:18 <welshdragon> internet's being throttled 19:31:18 <Audigex> which also means that, if they wanted to, the devs could release my sprites as part of the openttd release 19:31:29 <Audigex> i doubt they'd want to, but i like the fact they could :) 19:31:30 <Doorslammer> Good point 19:31:35 <Beardie> rofl 19:31:47 <Audigex> right, that's my position made pretty damn clear 19:31:56 <Doorslammer> Good good 19:32:12 <Doorslammer> If Worley asks, hes not invited 19:32:12 <Beardie> Humm WAS might look into that becuase we have planes that both AV8, Planeset and OpenTTD doesn't have 19:32:17 <Audigex> if anyone wants me, highlight me (jon/audigex works) 19:32:45 <Audigex> also 19:32:47 <Audigex> comment on this 19:32:49 <Audigex> http://brforum.csuke.com/viewtopic.php?t=255 19:32:50 <Audigex> kthx 19:32:52 <Webster> Title: csuke.com BRSet :: Log in (at brforum.csuke.com) 19:33:07 <Audigex> (and yes, i know it's on a private forum, i couldnt give two shits) 19:33:52 <Doorslammer> Wow 19:34:15 <Doorslammer> I actually like that better than that one that bloke who did a runner had 19:34:33 <Beardie> Ronstar 19:34:41 <Frankr> Ronstar by any chance 19:34:43 <Doorslammer> AAAGHHHH! 19:34:43 <Frankr> lol 19:34:51 <Doorslammer> Dont do that 19:35:02 <Doorslammer> His name is now censored in my presence 19:35:12 <Doorslammer> R****** 19:35:25 <welshdragon> Redneck 19:35:55 <Frankr> lol 19:36:02 <Beardie> rofl 19:36:08 <Audigex> i dont think ron did an a3 19:36:17 <Doorslammer> A4 19:36:20 <Doorslammer> Sorry 19:36:23 <welshdragon> goodbye BRSet link on my Forums 19:36:24 <Audigex> although from my 32 seconds of research, they're practically the same thing 19:36:30 <welshdragon> hello BROS Forums :D 19:36:36 <Doorslammer> :D 19:36:38 <andythenorth> A3...I thought we were talking Toyota for a minute 19:36:38 <Doorslammer> Wait... 19:36:41 <Beardie> D 19:36:45 <Beardie> : 19:36:46 <Audigex> aha 19:36:50 <Audigex> solved the "fat" problem on that 19:36:59 <Audigex> andy - i'll draw a citreon c3 if that helps? :) 19:37:09 <Audigex> a4 is the streamlined bad boy 19:37:10 <Beardie> Car Set 19:37:12 <Beardie> sounds good? 19:37:23 <Audigex> haha surely it would just be 5 silver pixels 19:37:24 <Beardie> Lets make a bugetti Veyron 19:37:32 <Beardie> carries 4 passengers 19:37:32 <Audigex> and that would just be 4, darker and in a line 19:37:37 <Beardie> goes at 250mph 19:37:41 <Doorslammer> Sir Nige knew how to build a train 19:37:55 <Doorslammer> 4 passengers is a stretch 19:38:07 <Beardie> 3, 2 in the seats one in the boot 19:38:12 <Frankr> lol 19:38:18 <Beardie> if ti has a boot 19:38:20 <Audigex> aston martin db9 19:38:23 <Frankr> one on the roof 19:38:26 <Audigex> for the record, if anyone wins the lottery 19:38:27 <Beardie> at 2 passengers 1 dog 19:38:28 <Audigex> thats what i'm having 19:38:30 <Doorslammer> Someone want to gather the sprites left on you know where? 19:38:39 <Frankr> lol 19:38:39 <Audigex> door - be careful with your licensing 19:38:41 <Beardie> i wil 19:38:42 <Frankr> BRSet 19:38:43 <Doorslammer> ? 19:38:54 <Audigex> only mine, welsh's and ameecher's stuff is gpl on there 19:38:55 <Audigex> and your own 19:38:57 <Beardie> I will get them i actually have them on my pc anyway i think 19:38:58 <Frankr> or is that censored as well 19:39:03 <andythenorth> http://www.improvementandinnovation.com/features/articles/a3-reporting-tool-drives-toyota 19:39:05 <Webster> Title: A3 reporting: the tool that drives Toyota | Improvement and Innovation (at www.improvementandinnovation.com) 19:39:09 <Doorslammer> Erm... 19:39:13 <planetmaker> heya :-) 19:39:23 <andythenorth> ah the cavalry arrives 19:39:24 <Doorslammer> EXT and Beardy also accepted GPL too 19:39:25 <Beardie> can i take Ammlers? 19:39:28 <planetmaker> andythenorth: just curious: did it work for you with the new grfcodec and nforenum? 19:39:35 <Frankr> hello planetmaker 19:39:41 <andythenorth> haven't tried yet....work work work makes jack a dull boy etc 19:39:49 <andythenorth> then all this ^^^^^^^ started 19:39:54 <andythenorth> *and* I'm hungry 19:39:55 <planetmaker> ok. Please let me know when you try :-) 19:40:06 <andythenorth> but there's nothing like a good drama on the internets 19:40:07 <Audigex> how big is a fucking steam tender? 19:40:09 <Audigex> 16px? 19:40:21 <planetmaker> drama is the right word. Two dramas there are actually. 19:40:29 <planetmaker> brset and moderation 19:40:45 <Doorslammer> lol, wish I had BRSet in moderation too 19:41:00 <planetmaker> or... not moderation but the pretty girls issue 19:41:00 <andythenorth> planetmaker: for the record, we've had a nice signal/noise ratio around here. I'd hope it stays that way...or I'm off :D 19:41:09 <planetmaker> :-) 19:41:43 <Doorslammer> What was the pretty girls thing about 19:41:53 <andythenorth> I've spent my last few weeks teaching junior developers when to *shut up* and write some code... 19:41:56 <planetmaker> read tt-forums 19:41:56 <Doorslammer> I never followed it 19:42:06 <andythenorth> ...and when to *stop writing code* and ask some questions dammit 19:42:07 <Doorslammer> Where do I start though? 19:42:24 <planetmaker> Doorslammer: dunno. Just saw the noise. 19:42:29 <Doorslammer> lol 19:42:30 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 19:42:46 <Doorslammer> The thread I read didn't make things very explicitly clear 19:43:36 <Beardie> Doorslammer what about my Class 31? 19:43:46 <welshdragon> ok 19:44:00 <welshdragon> i'm just finishing up the BROS test forum 19:44:20 <Doorslammer> I slightly modded that one 19:44:25 <Beardie> cool 19:44:27 <Beardie> lol 19:44:29 <Beardie> :D 19:44:54 <Beardie> Doorslammer 19:44:56 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:44:58 <Beardie> i have some info on some trains 19:45:03 <Beardie> like Daves Tracking Table 19:45:06 <Beardie> but made by me 19:45:08 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 19:45:12 <Beardie> got a list of Class 37s 19:45:17 <Beardie> that need making 19:45:24 <Beardie> with ones that are made 19:45:29 <Beardie> do you want it? 19:45:50 <Beardie> you know keep it for now? 19:46:21 <Doorslammer> Sure 19:46:33 <Doorslammer> monarodoorslammer@gmail.com is my sending address 19:46:37 <extspotter> ere 19:46:52 <Beardie> ok 19:47:15 <Doorslammer> God I hate the women who cry in infomercials 19:47:17 <extspotter> brb lol 19:47:27 <Doorslammer> Ab twister changed my life! BLUB! 19:47:28 *** extspotter has quit IRC 19:47:39 <Audigex> andy, who do you work for? 19:48:21 <Doorslammer> OK, bedtime now 19:48:30 <Doorslammer> Nighty night, fellow BROS fans 19:48:34 <Frankr> cya 19:48:43 <Doorslammer> Oh when, will I, will I be famous....? 19:48:44 <welshdragon> Doorslammer: WAIT 19:48:48 <Doorslammer> Oh? 19:49:08 <Doorslammer> I can't answer! I can't answer that! 19:49:12 <andythenorth> Audigex: I run my own company 19:49:19 <welshdragon> Doorslammer: check http://freeside.co.uk/~welshdragon/phpBB3/index.php 19:49:22 <Webster> Title: NWLUG & UK Bus Set Forums Index page (at freeside.co.uk) 19:49:22 <Audigex> mint, give me a job 19:49:26 <Audigex> well, in 2 years 19:49:35 <andythenorth> do you write python? 19:49:41 <Audigex> hssssss 19:49:44 <welshdragon> you may be suprised to see a name in there who is a moderator of his own area 19:49:45 <Audigex> yeah, seems easy enough ;) 19:49:55 <Audigex> i could easily write python though 19:49:58 <Doorslammer> Write Python, I adore Python! 19:50:03 <Doorslammer> No no, not the comfy chair 19:50:07 <Audigex> it's just c without the braces 19:50:12 <Audigex> yummy whitespace 19:50:18 <Doorslammer> Well, no one expects the Spanish Inquisition! 19:50:31 <welshdragon> ok 19:50:35 <Doorslammer> And now for something completely different 19:50:36 <Beardie> Doorslammer: Can i use my Class 47s 19:50:43 <welshdragon> what does everybody think? 19:50:44 <Audigex> give me 2 weeks to get the hang of the syntax and api and i'd be away 19:50:48 <Doorslammer> All 47s are off limits 19:50:54 <Beardie> even mine? 19:50:57 <Beardie> the ones i made? 19:51:14 <Beardie> its because i used Csukes outline? 19:51:26 <Doorslammer> Because it was a R****** body shell to start with 19:51:39 <Beardie> was it? 19:51:43 <Audigex> yup 19:51:43 <Beardie> ok i delete them.. 19:51:46 <Frankr> lol 19:51:47 <Beardie> from my comp 19:51:50 <welshdragon> ok 19:51:54 <Frankr> can't u ask Ronstar 19:52:17 <Doorslammer> R****** is a tit and told Dave his stuff is no more 19:52:19 <Audigex> Key: 19:52:20 <Doorslammer> Anywhere 19:52:20 <Audigex> ! Ron's contribution gone (ie he's the only contributor, or was the most recent poster) 19:52:22 <Audigex> * Base model credit (ie he made it, others modified it - newer versions still exist) 19:52:23 <Audigex> & Major work/liveries credit (liveries can be re-drawn, work is a problem) 19:52:25 <Audigex> $ minor work (less of a problem) 19:52:26 <Audigex> STEAM 19:52:28 <welshdragon> if anybody on BROS wants an artists section on my forums, register and then tell me you've done so :P 19:52:28 <Audigex> GWR 3400 "city" class ! 19:52:30 <Audigex> LNER A1 ! 19:52:31 <Audigex> Diesel 19:52:33 <Audigex> 43/HST *& 19:52:34 <Audigex> 47 */& 19:52:36 <Audigex> Electric 19:52:37 <Audigex> 91 * 19:52:39 <Audigex> DMU 19:52:40 <Audigex> 220/221 voyager family *& 19:52:42 <Audigex> 222 meridian & 19:52:43 <Audigex> 180 Adelante $ 19:52:45 <Audigex> EMU 19:52:47 <Audigex> 370 APT *& 19:52:48 <Audigex> Rolling Stock 19:52:50 <Audigex> "Old Wagons" *& 19:52:52 <Audigex> Mk 3 &/$ 19:52:53 <Audigex> LNER Teak ! 19:52:55 <Audigex> Mk I $/! 19:52:57 <Audigex> scuse me 19:52:58 <Audigex> what the fuck is bros? 19:53:00 <Audigex> british rail open set? 19:53:04 <Doorslammer> Old wagons was a hard loss for me 19:53:10 <Doorslammer> BROS 19:53:21 <Audigex> old wagons, 222, 91 and hst 19:53:24 <Audigex> biggest losses by far 19:53:24 <Doorslammer> Open 19:53:29 <Doorslammer> Oops 19:53:32 <Audigex> 220-1-2 even 19:53:34 <Doorslammer> OpenTTD Set 19:53:43 <Frankr> If people have done re-paints he can't disagree with that 19:53:50 <Audigex> frankr - he can 19:53:52 <Frankr> Most of it is their work 19:53:57 <Audigex> if he made the base model, it's a derivative work 19:54:07 <Frankr> Yh but he allowed it 19:54:16 <Audigex> that doesnt mean he can't withdraw it 19:54:17 <Doorslammer> Oh hang on 19:54:27 <Doorslammer> What licence was R****** on? 19:54:28 <Audigex> he didn't release it under a non-retrievable license 19:54:30 <Frankr> He should have said that any other paints are technically his 19:54:35 <Audigex> he wasnt on any license 19:54:40 <welshdragon> ^ 19:54:41 <Audigex> which means he retains standard copyright 19:54:45 <Frankr> if he didn't have a license it doesn't matter 19:54:48 <Doorslammer> What a tit 19:54:48 <Audigex> inclusive of derivative works 19:54:52 <Audigex> frankr - it does 19:54:58 <Audigex> copyright is automatic, you dont have to claim it 19:55:06 <Doorslammer> True 19:55:09 <Doorslammer> Same with photos 19:55:13 <Audigex> a license is about giving away some rights while retaining others 19:55:20 <welshdragon> Frankr: breach of copyright is illegal in the UK 19:55:33 <Frankr> If it has a copyright sign on it 19:55:34 <welshdragon> we could be taken to court if we use the stuff 19:55:40 <Audigex> frankr - listen 19:55:43 <Audigex> COPYRIGHT IS AUTOMATIC 19:55:44 <Frankr> And he would go that far 19:55:50 <Audigex> you dont have to put a (c) sign on it 19:55:57 <Audigex> if i make something, it's copyrighted 19:56:11 <Audigex> its only when i state it's released under the GPL that I give away some of those rights 19:56:25 <welshdragon> so, anyway 19:56:28 <Frankr> And so therefore if i change it is technically not your work 19:56:29 <Audigex> you're thinking patents 19:56:34 <welshdragon> nobody taking up my offer? 19:56:36 <Audigex> if you change it, it's a derivative work 19:56:36 <Doorslammer> But isnt there a percentage of what can be changed from the original that can negate copyright? 19:56:38 <Audigex> and still covered 19:56:49 <Frankr> I would agree dorr 19:56:50 <Frankr> door 19:56:51 <Doorslammer> Ah 19:56:51 <Audigex> doorslammer, there's fair use - but that's a very small percentage 19:57:02 <Audigex> as in you can photocopy 5% of a book 19:57:03 <Beardie> Class 221/1/2? Yours Audigex? 19:57:16 <Audigex> the new class 220/1/2 is 100% my work 19:57:18 <Audigex> you're clear with that 19:57:24 <Beardie> ok i'll take that 19:57:25 <Doorslammer> Oh well, new 47 it is then 19:57:35 <Frankr> The fact that a single painter can paint 1 train and claim the next 30 as his own is ludicrous 19:57:44 <Audigex> frankr, it's really not 19:57:48 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 19:57:48 <Frankr> the GPL should have been introduced ages ago 19:57:52 <Audigex> it's intellectual property, and it's very clear 19:58:14 <Doorslammer> It's a mess that should have been avoided 19:58:15 <Frankr> No wonder the set hasn't got anywhere with idiots painting greyscales and removing them at will 19:58:18 <Doorslammer> Thats my gripe 19:58:28 <welshdragon> right 19:58:30 <Doorslammer> Especially since said member had done sod all for 3 years before 19:58:31 <welshdragon> please 19:58:32 <Audigex> aand we're back into politics 19:58:38 * Audigex is away 19:58:39 <welshdragon> no politics 19:58:40 <Doorslammer> No Im good 19:58:44 <Beardie> lol 19:58:47 <welshdragon> answer my question 19:58:49 <Beardie> :) 19:58:57 <Doorslammer> Go on 19:59:02 <welshdragon> do you want to use my BROS forums? 19:59:02 <Beardie> Sorry Welshdargon what is your question? 19:59:20 <Doorslammer> Yes, until we hear more about the subforum 19:59:25 <welshdragon> ok 19:59:26 <Beardie> i vote not until we can't use tt-forums 19:59:30 <Beardie> lol 19:59:31 <Beardie> ok 19:59:38 <Beardie> i'll go with Doorslammer 19:59:41 <Doorslammer> It shall be a useful temporary home whilst we regroup 19:59:53 <Beardie> i am getting sprites together now 19:59:55 <welshdragon> we need ext's opinion 20:00:05 <welshdragon> Beardie: i'll set up an area for you to spam 20:00:10 <welshdragon> and the same with Audigex 20:00:17 <Doorslammer> He'll love that 20:00:21 <welshdragon> but you'll need to register 20:00:49 <welshdragon> Doorslammer: can you pop a link to the tracking table on the forums? 20:01:04 <Beardie> Class 170 is that Ammechers? 20:01:05 * welshdragon would, but is in his Admin panel :) 20:01:12 <Beardie> Ameechers* 20:01:22 <Doorslammer> Can do 20:02:00 <Beardie> Class 170? 20:02:11 <welshdragon> umm 20:02:14 <Beardie> wait 20:02:14 <Doorslammer> I think that changed too much to be his 20:02:24 <Audigex> ameecher's stuff is GPL 20:02:31 <Beardie> csuke changed it, i'm out (i feel like i am on dragons den) 20:02:37 <Audigex> i his words "go nuts with it, i dont care" 20:02:42 <Frankr> http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/copy/c-manage/c-useenforce/c-enforce/c-enforce-subpart.htm 20:02:43 <Webster> Title: Intellectual Property Office - Enforcing copyright - Substantial part (at www.ipo.gov.uk) 20:02:50 <Audigex> so if he gpl'd it, the derivative work by csuke is gpl too 20:02:52 <Audigex> by definition 20:02:59 <Beardie> ok i'll take 20:03:23 <Audigex> or i believe so anyway 20:03:29 <Frankr> it is also not being used to financial gain 20:03:40 <Audigex> that said, csuke could have an argument that it wasnt gpl when he made it 20:03:48 <Audigex> frankr - stop trying to get round it 20:04:25 <Audigex> besides the moral issues (it's not right, even if you can) you'll also run into major problems with the community if you play around with copyright 20:04:27 <Frankr> if take for example beardie has painted 20 repaints of Ronstars work that is alot 20:04:45 <Audigex> want to get your set into BaNaNaS or the openttdcoop grfset? 20:04:52 <Audigex> if you do, pay attention to copyright 20:04:57 <Beardie> Ben_K?? 20:05:03 <Audigex> because i doubt either will accept disputed work 20:05:05 <Doorslammer> Ben_K? 20:05:09 <Beardie> Can't take his stiff? 20:05:11 <Doorslammer> What has he done? 20:05:15 <Doorslammer> :O 20:05:16 <Beardie> Class 175 20:05:18 <Doorslammer> His stiff? 20:05:22 <welshdragon> Ben_K did the original 175 20:05:25 <Beardie> Stuff* 20:05:29 <Doorslammer> Phew 20:05:58 <welshdragon> but he's no longer active in the community 20:06:02 <Beardie> and so? 20:06:08 <Audigex> get in touch with him... 20:06:08 <Beardie> so.... 20:06:17 <Audigex> you can't assume anything 20:06:23 <Beardie> ok i'll add that to the maybe list 20:06:25 <Doorslammer> I dont think anything before 2008 was any good anyway 20:06:29 <Beardie> hence get back to iy 20:06:53 <Audigex> karlneil's should be on that list too 20:06:54 <andythenorth> ask Ben_K 20:06:55 <Audigex> the 185 20:06:56 <Beardie> EXT Gone? 20:06:58 <Doorslammer> Argh, my password didnt work 20:07:01 <Audigex> lovely bit of work, that 20:07:04 <Doorslammer> Can you post it for me? 20:07:05 <Doorslammer> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tBpimaFD-OwHvusDTKXTgGg&output=html 20:07:07 <Webster> Title: BROS (at spreadsheets.google.com) 20:07:12 <andythenorth> I got permission on cargo sprites from Ben_K 20:07:12 <welshdragon> Doorslammer: on my forums? 20:07:16 <planetmaker> does BenK still exist? 20:07:19 <Doorslammer> 185 is karlneil 20:07:23 <Doorslammer> It is lovely 20:07:25 <planetmaker> I tried to contact him 1 year ago without success. 20:07:31 <Doorslammer> Yeah 20:08:04 <andythenorth> maybe I imagined Ben_K 20:08:11 <Doorslammer> Must have 20:08:13 <andythenorth> I\ve checked my PMs, nothing there 20:08:25 <planetmaker> mine is still unread in the outbox 20:08:29 <Doorslammer> Anyway, bedtime for me 20:08:38 <Doorslammer> Same bat time, same bat channel 20:08:42 <welshdragon> ok 20:08:44 <Doorslammer> Hopefully 20:08:49 <welshdragon> Forums are set up 20:08:49 <planetmaker> from 5th November last year 20:08:52 <Doorslammer> 4:08am :D 20:09:07 <Doorslammer> Nighty night 20:09:14 <Beardie> Night 20:09:16 <Beardie> Class 185? 20:09:17 <planetmaker> night 20:09:27 <Doorslammer> Class 185? 20:09:30 <Doorslammer> karlneil 20:09:35 <Doorslammer> He left it to BRSet 20:09:44 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 20:09:45 *** extspotter has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:09:50 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v extspotter 20:09:51 <Beardie> i'll take it then 20:09:56 <extspotter> damn 20:10:01 <extspotter> dave just left lol 20:10:13 <Beardie> rofl 20:10:22 <extspotter> what about you all? 20:10:49 <welshdragon> http://freeside.co.uk/~welshdragon/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=13 20:10:51 <Webster> Title: NWLUG & UK Bus Set Forums View topic - Tracking Table (at freeside.co.uk) 20:11:00 <welshdragon> thanks Webster 20:11:00 <Webster> Okay, but I'm a bot 20:11:13 <Beardie> ? 20:11:16 <Beardie> Webster? 20:11:22 <Beardie> Webster 20:11:24 <Frankr> lol beardie 20:11:25 <welshdragon> extspotter: you have an area on my forums to post graphics 20:11:28 <Beardie> wtf 20:11:30 <Frankr> it is a bot 20:11:37 <extspotter> k 20:11:50 <Beardie> thanks Webster 20:11:50 <Webster> Okay, but I'm a bot 20:11:50 <Audigex> http://brforum.csuke.com/viewtopic.php?p=2968#2968 20:11:58 <Audigex> coal-carrying-trucky-thingy added 20:11:58 <Webster> Title: csuke.com BRSet :: Log in (at brforum.csuke.com) 20:12:05 <Audigex> fuck off webster 20:12:08 <extspotter> webster should go home 20:12:13 <Audigex> aha, he doesn't reply if you're rude 20:12:18 <extspotter> Webster - go home 20:12:27 <Audigex> he's not ET... 20:12:27 <welshdragon> Beardie / Audigex / extspotter: please register on my forums 20:12:34 <Beardie> link.. 20:12:43 <extspotter> thank you webster 20:12:44 <welshdragon> http://freeside.co.uk/~welshdragon/phpBB3 20:12:46 <Webster> Title: NWLUG & UK Bus Set Forums Index page (at freeside.co.uk) 20:12:57 <welshdragon> Webster: shut up 20:13:02 <extspotter> I am guessing its a stupid bot, or aud in disguise :p 20:13:07 <Frankr> it is a bot 20:13:07 <Audigex> :o 20:13:17 <Frankr> Webster is a bot 20:13:17 <Webster> Infrastructure Sharing. See http://wiki.openttd.org/Is for more details. 20:13:25 <Frankr> if you type thanks Webster 20:13:31 <Audigex> wtf 20:13:36 <Audigex> okay, it's not a very clever bot 20:13:39 <extspotter> go home thanks Webster 20:13:40 <welshdragon> lol 20:13:44 <Audigex> why did it just tell us about IS? 20:13:49 <welshdragon> it's not as bad as babyottd was 20:13:52 <extspotter> he said webster IS 20:14:06 <welshdragon> Webster gay 20:14:06 <Frankr> indeed 20:14:10 <extspotter> lol 20:14:23 <Frankr> Webster WAS 20:14:30 <Frankr> i don't think this works 20:14:39 <Frankr> you have to do worldairlineset 20:14:55 <Frankr> thanks Webster 20:14:55 <Webster> Okay, but I'm a bot 20:15:26 <Frankr> i wonder if ping 20:15:33 <Frankr> damn no pong 20:15:52 <Frankr> Webster ping 20:15:52 <Webster> pong 20:15:55 <Frankr> lol 20:15:58 <Beardie> welshdragon i might feel about making some buses sometime in my local livery of John Fishwicks & Sons, the company has been around 100 years and is based in Leyland where the leyand buses and trucks where made, by no other than my Grandad 20:16:11 <welshdragon> ok, thanks 20:16:21 <extspotter> no wonder thatcher sold them 20:16:25 <Frankr> lol 20:16:25 <welshdragon> i'll add you to the UK Bus Set team 20:16:35 <extspotter> also make country bus from down here 20:16:44 <extspotter> its pointles and stupid bus company 20:17:06 <welshdragon> right 20:17:19 <welshdragon> Beardie: you are moderator of your graphics area 20:17:24 <extspotter> http://www.countrybusdevon.co.uk/ 20:17:26 <Webster> Title: Country Bus (at www.countrybusdevon.co.uk) 20:17:29 <Beardie> o ok thanks :) 20:17:31 <welshdragon> (same as door is with his) 20:17:47 <welshdragon> everybody who is an artist will be a moderator of that area 20:17:52 <welshdragon> same with coders 20:18:06 <welshdragon> (once there is code) 20:18:45 <Beardie> no doubt coders will be me and frank at this rate 20:18:53 <Frankr> again 20:18:56 <Beardie> indeed 20:19:03 <Beardie> course we have a WAS Alpha to finish 20:19:04 <Beardie> LOL 20:19:04 <welshdragon> Audigex: are you sticking to posting in the csuke forums? 20:19:06 <Frankr> so that is 2 sets 20:19:18 <Frankr> djnekkid may be able to help 20:19:20 <Beardie> 2 of the biggest sets on the forums yes LOL 20:19:25 <Beardie> he lieks trains 20:19:27 <Beardie> likes* 20:19:57 <Frankr> well WAS is the biggest set i think 20:20:01 <Frankr> 3mb now 20:20:11 <Beardie> well the most ambitious one 20:20:17 <Beardie> like Top Gear 20:20:22 <Frankr> :) 20:20:24 <Beardie> and please correct me on that spelling lol 20:20:27 <Audigex> welshdragon: i'm posting on csuke for now 20:20:42 <Audigex> as i said, I'm not jumping ship 20:20:48 <Audigex> if it turns out csuke's forum dies 20:20:49 <Beardie> rofl 20:20:58 <Audigex> i may well move to wherever is making progress 20:20:59 <Frankr> which is looking likely 20:21:11 <Audigex> more likely I'll just post them in my own webspace 20:21:12 <welshdragon> Audigex: my only concern is that we can't see what you have done 20:21:23 <Audigex> then come looking for it 20:21:28 <welshdragon> but its your decision 20:21:31 <Beardie> i am looking for it 20:21:35 <Audigex> it's going to be there 20:21:42 <Beardie> and i will post it on Audigex 's section 20:21:49 <welshdragon> ok 20:22:00 <Audigex> but i'm not going to be messing about with moving to a forum that i dont know what's happening with 20:22:00 <welshdragon> do you agree to that Audigex? 20:22:10 <Audigex> i'm not getting involved with communities and crap until i see some progress 20:22:15 <Audigex> it's GPL, do what you want with it 20:22:23 <Audigex> i certainly have no objection to it being re-posted on your forum 20:22:23 <welshdragon> there will be progress i reckon 20:22:27 <Beardie> indeed 20:22:43 <Audigex> and if it turns out that you get the levels of feedback that I like over there, i may well move 20:22:45 <Beardie> brb 20:22:53 <Beardie> :) 20:22:57 <Beardie> bbl sorry 20:24:00 <welshdragon> ok 20:24:12 <welshdragon> i'm going to bed soon anyway 20:25:55 <welshdragon> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=117264 < drool :P 20:26:24 <Audigex> i made a shitty effort at reproducing that once 20:26:27 <Audigex> nasty stuff 20:26:31 <Audigex> my 2nd sprite ever 20:26:55 <Audigex> it's hidden away in the hst thread on brforums, if you ever want to embarrass me 20:27:25 <welshdragon> Audigex: i like how i started the GC 180, and you then carried on :) 20:27:40 <welshdragon> after i said it was mine :P 20:27:50 <Audigex> yeah 20:27:54 <Audigex> i got carried away :p 20:28:08 <Audigex> i wanted to compare the two models for it 20:28:10 <Audigex> ie mine and jvassie's 20:28:16 <welshdragon> lol 20:28:21 <Audigex> then i wanted to see it as a full train 20:28:24 <Audigex> that sprite is shite though 20:28:36 <Audigex> you'd be better off re-painting the original model yourself 20:30:02 <welshdragon> hehe 20:34:47 <Audigex> why is the BROS forum on some shitty public host? 20:35:08 <welshdragon> as it's free? 20:35:17 <welshdragon> and i know the administrators 20:35:41 <Audigex> well tell them to change their fucking captcha 20:35:44 <Audigex> i cant read the damn thing 20:35:57 <welshdragon> that'll be me 20:36:00 <welshdragon> 2 secs... 20:36:16 <Audigex> finally 20:36:19 <Audigex> 6 attempts 20:36:33 <Audigex> a captcha is meant to be difficult for a bot 20:36:41 <Audigex> but a human should be able to do it first time 20:36:52 <Audigex> if a human can't do it first time, 99% of times 20:36:54 <Audigex> it's failed 20:36:54 <Frankr> lol 20:37:10 <Frankr> true 20:37:13 <welshdragon> i'll fix the captha 20:37:28 <welshdragon> let me just give you some power 20:38:03 <Audigex> i'm already in now, just make a better one 20:38:09 <Audigex> i made a fantastic captcha once 20:38:16 <Audigex> you just click the shape it tells you to 20:38:21 <Audigex> cant find the thing now 20:38:41 <Audigex> and that tracking table still says GPLv3 20:38:47 <Audigex> which isn't compatible with the GPLv2 20:39:09 <extspotter> hello? 20:39:15 <jonty-comp> hello 20:39:17 <extspotter> audigex, you have msn? 20:39:17 <welshdragon> i'll mention that to doorslammer tomorrow 20:39:39 <extspotter> I already have mark's and downunderdave's 20:39:50 <Audigex> audigex@gmail.com 20:39:51 <welshdragon> yeah 20:39:54 <welshdragon> i'm hiding 20:39:58 <extspotter> k lol 20:40:28 <extspotter> added 20:41:11 <Audigex> accept0rd 20:42:25 <extspotter> wewt 20:42:36 <extspotter> but for some reason I can't msn ayone right now 20:42:42 <extspotter> says recipient doesnt recieve 20:42:47 <extspotter> makes nosense 20:42:59 <welshdragon> lol 20:43:10 <Frankr> wb ext 20:44:11 <extspotter> shmexehfrank :p 20:44:56 <Frankr> :) 20:45:11 <extspotter> lol, going from relative calmness of USoE to Les Wampas was to suprising for my brain 20:45:26 <andythenorth> good night 20:45:27 <extspotter> I am like ARGH! 20:45:31 <extspotter> noightynoight 20:45:46 <Frankr> cya 20:45:47 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 20:45:52 <Frankr> lol ext 20:47:01 <extspotter> what? 20:47:18 <Frankr> does any1 here know the longvehicles set guy 20:47:27 <Frankr> ext your comment about muse 20:47:44 <extspotter> andythenorth 20:47:53 <extspotter> or was that heavy 20:48:12 <Frankr> heavy 20:49:23 <welshdragon> it's Michael Blunck 20:49:23 <jonty-comp> extspotter: MSN is broken at the moment it seems 20:49:30 <welshdragon> he's a nutcase 20:49:32 <jonty-comp> or, at least, half my friends on Facebook are complaining about it 20:49:40 <extspotter> it is like so heavy man, I was like woah, that is like heavy dude, you get me? 20:49:48 <jonty-comp> long vehicles? that's geogrge 20:50:47 <Frankr> do you know anyway i could contact him 20:51:15 <welshdragon> *cough* http://freeside.co.uk/~welshdragon/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=14 20:51:17 <Webster> Title: NWLUG & UK Bus Set Forums View topic - spam test (at freeside.co.uk) 20:51:20 <welshdragon> i feel; so cruel :P 20:51:36 <welshdragon> i need to ckeck fora permissions 20:52:01 <extspotter> I wish I had more accents on my keyboard 20:52:18 <extspotter> I severely lack them seeing as I speak in foreign languages so much 20:52:23 <Audigex> extspotter: The following message could not be delivered to all recipients: 20:52:25 <Audigex> prod 20:52:28 <Audigex> your msn is buggered 20:52:30 <extspotter> same for me 20:52:35 <extspotter> but for everyone 20:52:40 <extspotter> jonty says its same for everyone 20:52:49 <welshdragon> anybody have Skype? 20:52:57 <welshdragon> (i can do a text skype chat) 20:53:09 <Frankr> yh 20:53:21 <Frankr> beardie and i have skype 20:55:49 <Audigex> i have it but don't use it 20:55:51 <Audigex> easier to get me on here 20:56:10 <Frankr> i only use skype for talkin with beardie and other friends 20:56:17 <extspotter> omg 20:56:20 <extspotter> just happened again 20:56:21 <Frankr> saves typing 20:56:47 <extspotter> resistance going onto Weezer - Buddy Holly 20:56:55 <Frankr> lol 20:56:57 <extspotter> I just jumped out f my seat 20:58:05 <extspotter> tbh 20:58:27 <extspotter> even though some people are saying their new stuff is a departure from their old stuff, but if anything I like it more 20:58:41 <jonty-comp> yes 20:58:45 <jonty-comp> and it's on spotify, woo 20:58:50 <extspotter> already? 20:58:56 <extspotter> I got it this morning off iTunes 20:59:02 <extspotter> preorder 20:59:03 <jonty-comp> well, they put proper releases on the launch day 20:59:13 <jonty-comp> like Know Your Enemy, and The Resistance 20:59:26 <jonty-comp> and Strawberry Swing appeared the other day too 20:59:33 <extspotter> Know Your Enemy is Green day though isnt it 20:59:38 <jonty-comp> yes 21:00:16 <Frankr> :) 21:00:26 <Frankr> well i'll buy the album on Weds 21:00:48 <jonty-comp> I'll just sap it off Spotify :D 21:02:21 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:02:33 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 21:03:07 <extspotter> trying to see if anything sounds remotely like the resistance 21:03:56 <extspotter> but the closest I can get is Noir Désir and its not really that similar 21:05:11 <extspotter> wewt 21:05:31 <extspotter> Axis of Awesome - The 4 Chord Song 21:05:33 <extspotter> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpB_40hYjXU 21:05:34 <Webster> Title: YouTube - Axis Of Awesome 4 Chords - Amazing, Funny, Comedy, Singing, Just Brilliant (at www.youtube.com) 21:06:05 <Frankr> thanks Webster 21:06:05 <Webster> Okay, but I'm a bot 21:07:56 <welshdragon> extspotter: ask Eoin in #tycoon 21:08:02 <welshdragon> he's a muse fan 21:08:22 <Beardie> I am a muse fan :D 21:08:37 <Beardie> i own all the albums :D plus HAARP :D 21:08:49 <Beardie> DVD + CD :) 21:09:00 <Frankr> u got HAARP? 21:09:02 <Audigex> brb 21:09:03 <Audigex> starving 21:09:24 <Frankr> not Hubablu tho 21:09:28 <extspotter> axis of awesome is funny 21:09:40 <extspotter> the a-ha bit was genius 21:09:50 <Beardie> no not hbablu buts that not really a album its more compliation 21:10:06 <Beardie> hubablu* 21:10:43 <extspotter> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYpZgpfknsc 21:10:44 <Webster> Title: YouTube - Shakira She Wolf Official Music Video Full HD (at www.youtube.com) 21:10:49 <extspotter> shmexy shakira 21:11:00 <extspotter> shmekier than both robs put together :p 21:11:11 <extspotter> plus its the spanish one 21:11:27 <Audigex> what happened to people updating this BROS forum? 21:11:37 <Audigex> it's been there for a few hours, you're all sat on here 21:11:40 <Audigex> but there's nothing there? 21:11:51 <Beardie> well i am tired 21:11:55 <Beardie> am i was away 21:12:00 <Beardie> i will do it tomorrow 21:12:03 <extspotter> plus it is much more explicit than the english one lol 21:12:04 <Beardie> no wait i am out 21:12:14 <Beardie> wednesday i am in all day 21:12:21 <Beardie> i'll get some stuff on there 21:12:28 <Beardie> and what not of my own 21:12:37 <Beardie> :) 21:12:41 <welshdragon> i'm filling up the BROS forums with some info 21:12:56 <Beardie> also i am int he mood for making a bus :D 21:13:00 <Beardie> lol 21:13:11 <welshdragon> Beardie: thanks for reminding me... 21:13:16 <Beardie> :) 21:13:37 <Beardie> humm though i am crap at starting from scratch 21:16:11 <Audigex> well, go make a thread about licensing at least 21:16:17 <Audigex> make it clear from the start 21:16:20 <Audigex> and you'll avoid all the other problems 21:16:35 <Beardie> :) 21:16:56 <welshdragon> Audigex: you read mi mind 21:17:00 <welshdragon> *my 21:17:17 <Audigex> i do that occasionally 21:18:05 <Audigex> http://xkcd.org/628/ 21:18:06 <Webster> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Psychic (at xkcd.org) 21:18:30 <Beardie> welshdragon doo you need someone to have a go at a Optare Solo? 21:18:52 <welshdragon> Beardie: we need anything :P 21:19:00 <welshdragon> watch the scale 21:19:14 <Beardie> humm 21:19:19 <Beardie> so not to big and not too small 21:19:20 <welshdragon> you need to add another 2 pixels in height/length 21:19:27 <Beardie> to? 21:19:32 <Beardie> the other Optare Solo? 21:19:37 <welshdragon> the original ttd scale 21:19:45 <Beardie> how come? 21:19:54 <Audigex> brb - going to get naked and cover myself in soap 21:19:57 <Audigex> .... 21:20:05 <Audigex> brb - going to have a shower 21:20:09 <Beardie> rofl 21:20:22 <Beardie> anyway why add 2 pixels to the ttd scale? 21:21:13 *** Audigex is now known as Audi[away] 21:21:25 <extspotter> audigex, why do you always make things sound so graphic? 21:21:36 <Audi[away]> i'm an artiste, it's in my blood 21:21:47 <Beardie> welshdragon? 21:21:59 <Audi[away]> kk, not here 21:22:04 <Beardie> ok bye 21:22:15 <welshdragon> Beardie: check the uk bus set thread on tt-forums 21:22:26 <welshdragon> there was an argument over scale 21:22:36 <Beardie> rofl ok 21:25:30 <welshdragon> http://freeside.co.uk/~welshdragon/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=16&p=21#p21 21:25:32 <Webster> Title: NWLUG & UK Bus Set Forums View topic - Set Licensing (at freeside.co.uk) 21:25:47 <welshdragon> thanks Webster, go suck a cock :P 21:28:00 <Beardie> so this scale thing by the looks of it the Optare Solo needs scaling down 21:28:09 <Beardie> and other work looks the right scale 21:28:09 <welshdragon> hmm 21:28:14 <Beardie> to me 21:28:24 <welshdragon> try it and see 21:28:38 <Beardie> lws1984 has got the right scale 21:28:39 <welshdragon> also 21:28:44 <Beardie> try it? 21:28:46 <welshdragon> if you feel like it 21:28:52 <welshdragon> /join #ukbus 21:33:53 <welshdragon> extspotter: you are breaking the tables on http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45133&p=817947#p817947 21:33:54 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Pretty Vehicles (NO PRIMER) (at www.tt-forums.net) 21:34:03 <welshdragon> Webster: fuck orf 21:34:18 <extspotter> its not table breaking quite 21:34:32 <welshdragon> it's still VERY large 21:34:41 <extspotter> its still wihtin the same line as all the other post and theyre all within my (non) wide screeen 21:35:02 <extspotter> 17 inch monitor 21:35:09 <extspotter> thanks webster 21:35:09 <Webster> Okay, but I'm a bot 21:35:21 <extspotter> and a eunic... 21:35:54 <welshdragon> hehe 21:37:05 <Frankr> Webster UKbusset 21:37:15 <Frankr> Webster UK Bus Set 21:37:21 <extspotter> eunuch sorry 21:37:33 <extspotter> Webster World Airliner Set 21:37:41 <Frankr> Webster World Airline Set 21:37:42 <extspotter> Webster Worldairlinerset 21:37:50 <extspotter> Webster Worldairlineset 21:37:56 <welshdragon> Webster: ukbusset 21:37:59 <extspotter> Webster boobs 21:38:09 <extspotter> Webster moobs? 21:38:12 <Frankr> Webster World Airliners Set 21:38:24 <Frankr> Webster Worldairlinersset 21:38:25 <extspotter> thanks a lot, webster 21:38:25 <Webster> Okay, but I'm a bot 21:38:31 <Frankr> lol 21:38:48 <extspotter> and yet you still breathe... what a waste of electricity 21:38:54 <Frankr> Webster FIRS 21:38:54 <Webster> FIRS Industry Replacement Set, see: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=41607 21:39:03 <extspotter> webster UKRS 21:39:06 <Frankr> Webster 2cc 21:39:06 <Webster> "2 Company Colour" trainset, see http://users.tt-forums.net/2cc/ 21:39:09 <extspotter> Webster UKRS 21:39:20 <Beardie> Webster WAS 21:39:20 <extspotter> Webster TBRS 21:39:28 <extspotter> Webster Canset 21:39:28 <Frankr> Webster Opengfx 21:39:34 <Beardie> Webster World Airline Set 21:39:42 <extspotter> Webster HEQS 21:39:45 <Beardie> Webster World Airliner Set 21:39:49 <Beardie> rofl 21:39:51 <Frankr> Webster Dutch station set 21:39:58 <extspotter> Webster DBsetXL 21:39:58 <Webster> extspotter: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes. 21:40:03 <extspotter> yay 21:40:06 <extspotter> twat 21:40:07 <Beardie> rofl 21:40:07 <Frankr> lol 21:40:16 <welshdragon> Webster gay: 21:40:27 <Beardie> WAS Webster 21:40:34 <Beardie> WAS, Webster 21:40:36 <Beardie> lol 21:40:47 <Beardie> World Airliners Set, Webster 21:40:49 <Beardie> no 21:40:51 <Beardie> nope 21:40:56 <extspotter> webster shops at topshop, new look and claire's accessories 21:41:07 <extspotter> what a crossdresser 21:41:33 <extspotter> anyway 21:41:34 <extspotter> bedtime 21:41:43 <extspotter> I want to read more of my ruinair book 21:41:48 <extspotter> nigjt 21:41:58 <Beardie> night 21:42:09 <Frankr> cya 21:42:09 *** extspotter has quit IRC 21:43:22 <Frankr> Webster bye 21:50:19 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:50:27 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Webster 21:50:57 <Beardie> Webster bye 21:51:05 <Beardie> nope lol 21:51:16 <Beardie> Webster Bye 21:51:31 <Beardie> Webster Fish 21:51:48 <Frankr> Web FIRS 21:51:58 <Frankr> Webster FIRS 21:51:58 <Webster> FIRS Industry Replacement Set, see: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=41607 21:52:23 <Frankr> Webster Frank 21:52:31 <Frankr> Webster Beardie 21:55:25 <Audi[away]> back 21:55:37 <Frankr> :) 22:08:22 *** Audi[away] is now known as Audigex 22:36:11 *** Beardie has quit IRC 23:03:33 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:23:40 <Frankr> Audigex nice work on the flying scotsman 23:28:59 <Audigex> ty 23:30:25 <Audigex> it didnt actually take that long 23:31:25 <Audigex> i need to do some research into steamers though 23:31:28 <Audigex> no idea what others look like :p 23:39:14 *** Audigex has quit IRC 23:50:46 *** Frankr has quit IRC