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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 17th September 2009:
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16:28:37  <Ammler> Rubidium: where did you find the rpms fro grfcodec and renum on fedora?
16:28:53  <Ammler> (there are no rpms for suse)
16:29:20  <Ammler> rpmseek....
16:34:02  <Ammler> it looks like listed there doesn't mean, those are availabe
16:34:10  <Ammler> didn't find a working mirror.
16:36:44  <Rubidium> http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/grfcodec/ / http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/nforenum/ ?
16:36:45  <Webster> Title: [pkgs] Index of /rpms/grfcodec (at cvs.fedoraproject.org)
16:37:05  <Rubidium> it's just messing with the URLs of the thing I already gave you
16:37:15  <Ammler> hmm,
16:37:22  <Ammler> I did the same there :-(
16:38:30  <Rubidium> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/user/heffer <- would've given you the clue that they existed
16:38:31  <Webster> Title: Fedora Updates (at admin.fedoraproject.org)
16:40:25  <Ammler> Rubidium: are you fedora user?
16:40:48  <Rubidium> *never*
16:40:52  <Ammler> :-)
16:41:00  <Rubidium> I once tried to install RedHat though
16:41:12  <Ammler> I know nobody using it.
16:41:54  <Rubidium> IIRC RedHat 5.2
16:42:29  <Rubidium> and went straight to Debian 2.0 after trying to install it
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16:55:03  <Ammler> I was always with suse, a bit fedora and virtuozzo
16:56:16  <Ammler> mäh, he needed to patch the sources, quite havy to get it working...
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17:15:02  <DJNekkid> hmm...
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17:19:16  <DJNekkid> hmmm!
17:20:46  <DJNekkid> now that sux!
17:20:58  <DJNekkid> unless
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17:32:20  <DJNekkid> there, finally!
17:36:52  <DJNekkid> anyone of you guys got a good idea on how one could replace a char by a "newline" ?
17:37:32  <DJNekkid> or anything...
17:37:50  <Rubidium> tr
17:38:08  <DJNekkid> point beeing ...
17:38:17  <Rubidium> esp tr '<char>' '\n'
17:38:42  <DJNekkid> if i make some stuff in multiple cells in an excel sheet, copy/paste it into a .txt
17:39:07  <DJNekkid> and then i want to put each cell on a new line ...
17:39:17  <DJNekkid> preprocessor food :å
17:39:19  <DJNekkid> :p
17:46:48  <Ammler> DJNekkid: nice first post on 2cc thread.
17:47:02  <DJNekkid> thank you, i think?
17:47:04  <DJNekkid> hehe
17:47:10  <Ammler> hmm
17:47:19  <Ammler> the compile farm didn't run
17:48:08  <Ammler> oh
17:48:14  <Ammler> Brot6 isn't running :-D
17:48:57  <Ammler> now I need to check the wiki, no idea how to start that.
17:49:43  <DJNekkid> on the +side, i manged to get the MU-template to run smooth :p
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17:51:06  <Ammler> o/
17:51:09  <ODM> woo!
17:52:15  <Ammler> mäh, there is just a bit too much running on my play-server
17:52:28  <DJNekkid> hehe
17:52:57  <Ammler> DJNekkid: I would provide a png template
17:53:02  <Ammler> and label the rows
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17:53:44  <Ammler> oh, who is zachanim?
17:54:34  <Ammler> was there a project with commits?
17:54:45  <Ammler> where I could check, if the compile worked...
17:55:05  <DJNekkid> neither of mine had any
17:56:25  <Ammler> fish r111 was last
17:56:31  <Ammler> and that is on the bundles.
17:56:37  <Ammler> so nothing missed...
17:57:05  <Ammler> planetmaker: commit opengfx!
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17:58:00  <Ammler> Saletti andythenorth!
17:58:16  <Ammler> you are the only contributor left from ISR.
17:59:05  <Ammler> I know, you don't like manging bananas.
17:59:17  <andythenorth> Are the rest all dead?  It sounds serious if I am the only one left...
17:59:39  <Ammler> well, krtylor said it so.
18:00:19  <Ammler> you would just need to upload 3 different versions of ISR.
18:00:28  <Ammler> no editing
18:00:45  <andythenorth> I didn't technically contribute to anything before 0.8 IIRC
18:00:52  <Ammler> shhht.
18:00:52  <andythenorth> it's not my work to upload
18:01:12  <andythenorth> mart3p will turn up at some point.  he is around, a bit.  He's coding the french train set
18:01:27  <Ammler> hmm, then I PM him.
18:02:12  <DJNekkid> but Ammler... as i saied earlier
18:02:33  <DJNekkid> is it possible to copy/paste some horizontal cells to a txt-file (or ... .pfno)
18:02:44  <DJNekkid> and then get the horizontal ones to be vertical?
18:02:53  <Ammler> he?
18:03:24  <Ammler> why do you make them horizontal, if you need it vertical?
18:03:47  <DJNekkid> because the trains are calculated horizontal
18:03:50  <DJNekkid> i.e. one train per line
18:04:42  <DJNekkid> but that line calculates lots of stuff, for example running cost, p-cost, TE, etc
18:07:27  <Ammler> Rubidium: if mart3p would leave a message in the forums that we can upload those grfs, would that be suiffice?
18:12:25  <Ammler> DJNekkid: as Rubidium mentioned, you could use tr
18:12:49  <DJNekkid> that saies me little or nothing, am i afraid
18:14:20  <Ammler> tr is replace chars on console level
18:14:27  <DJNekkid> oh ...
18:14:29  <DJNekkid> i see :)
18:14:31  <DJNekkid> *try*
18:14:42  <Ammler> should be in msys
18:15:49  <DJNekkid> tr -s \t \n file.pnfo file2.pnfo ?
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18:28:16  <DJ_Nekkid> that TR didnt seem to work, or i dont know how to :)
18:31:42  <Ammler> DJ_Nekkid: it does read from stdinput and write to standardoutput
18:32:01  <Ammler> so something like tr .... <input >output
18:32:02  <DJ_Nekkid> so, the file need to be named stdinput?`
18:32:10  <Ammler> no
18:32:25  <Ammler> that might be a bit special linux, dunno.
18:32:41  <Ammler> but piping is quite powerful
18:32:48  <Ammler> tr --help
18:32:55  <DJ_Nekkid> i did that
18:33:03  <Ammler> tr -s \t \n <file.pnfo >file2.pnfo
18:33:20  <DJ_Nekkid> with thoose <'s and >'s ?
18:33:27  <Ammler> or cat file.pnfo | tr -s \t  \n
18:33:40  <Ammler> DJ_Nekkid: yes <input and >output
18:34:37  <Ammler> (I didn't check the syntax for tr itself....)
18:34:43  <DJ_Nekkid> that last one worked
18:34:45  <DJ_Nekkid> :) :)
18:34:49  <Ammler> :-)
18:35:01  <Ammler> the one with cat?
18:35:02  <DJ_Nekkid> with the <>
18:35:09  <Ammler> ok
18:35:22  <DJ_Nekkid> no, just tr -s ..... <file >file
18:35:38  <Ammler> in linux you can pipe input and output indefinite like that
18:36:12  <Ammler> cat something | grep that | tr those | etc.....
18:37:09  <Ammler> cat file | tr ... >out is the same like tr <file >out
18:38:09  <Ammler> other powerful tools are sed or awk for such things...
18:38:33  <DJ_Nekkid> tr worked out well, so i'll stick with that i think
18:38:34  <Ammler> dunno, if awk is in msys
18:38:58  <Ammler> DJ_Nekkid: yeah, that is fine :-)
18:38:59  <DJ_Nekkid> seems not
18:39:07  <Ammler> but sed is
18:46:01  <DJ_Nekkid> so i guess that idea of yours, that i can read all stuff from a excel file works out anyway :)
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19:02:41  <Rubidium> Ammler: the rules are clear
19:11:43  <Ammler> :'-(
19:11:56  <Ammler> well, nvm, I shouldn't care that much...
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21:01:38  <andythenorth> now here's an interesting / really boring thing (delete as applicable).
21:01:39  <andythenorth> svn: Can't connect to host 'svn.openttd.org': No route to host
21:01:45  <andythenorth> that was from our office connection
21:01:54  <andythenorth> we admin servers all day long
21:01:58  <andythenorth> we have IPV6
21:02:17  <andythenorth> grrrrr
21:02:22  <andythenorth> :)
21:02:38  <andythenorth> maybe my mac is having a brain fart about routing
21:02:45  <Ammler> doesn't openttd.org support ipv6?
21:02:52  <Rubidium> Ammler: yes it does
21:03:12  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 268: added mutest.pnfo (2.0 lint41) and a spreadsheet @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/268 (by DJNekkid)
21:03:15  <Rubidium> and the fact it does might cause problem is someone's brain farted on the IPv6 routing table
21:04:24  <andythenorth> the weird thing is, I think it's just worked from my home network.  which was a fail yesterday for this
21:04:30  <Ammler> but if you have ipv6 and openttd.org supports ipv6, is shouldn't be a problem.
21:04:38  <andythenorth> or it's my fail
21:05:15  <andythenorth> it fails if I svn up from the dir where everything is checked out.  it works if I do it from inside the trunk dir
21:05:21  <andythenorth> probably my bad
21:06:20  <Rubidium> hmm, that's odd and sounds more like a subversion bug to me
21:13:08  <andythenorth> bedtime
21:13:11  <andythenorth> goodnight
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21:17:01  <Ammler> DJNekkid: why XXX_Something ?
21:17:36  <DJNekkid> xxx will be replaced by for example TGV-ATL
21:17:41  <DJNekkid> or ... CLASS66
21:17:46  <DJNekkid> or, whatever :)
21:17:55  <Ammler> and that happens where?
21:18:12  <DJNekkid> eventually :)
21:18:13  <DJNekkid> :p
21:19:00  <Ammler> he, you could propably code the whole nfo with excel :-)
21:19:15  <DJNekkid> nah
21:19:44  <DJNekkid> but it could probably do alot of the Action0s
21:20:42  <Ammler> Rubidium: is it "Debian convention" to install openttd to /usr/games?
21:20:51  <Ammler> instead /usr/bin
21:21:17  <Ammler> because my suse doesn't have /usr/local/games in the $PATH
21:22:01  <Ammler> but silly it has /usr/games there :-/ hmm
21:22:13  <Ammler> so this might be a bug from suse.
21:24:25  <DJNekkid> well, gnight
21:24:50  <Rubidium> Ammler: probably; OpenTTD's Debian stuff is a straight copy of the official stuff from a while ago
21:25:36  <Ammler> maybe it is wrong to use /usr/local/games, also in debian
21:26:30  <Ammler> mäh, no
21:26:39  <Ammler> then you could use prefix, proper.
21:26:46  <Ammler> n't
21:27:52  <Ammler> that is a bug from the distro, /usr/XXX = /usr/local/XXX
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22:04:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/2cctrainset/ initiated.

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