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02:33:41  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 103M)
02:33:41  <Brot6> I fill MY industrial waste containers with old copies of the "WATCHTOWER" and then add HAWAIIAN PUNCH to the top ... They look NICE in the yard ...
02:48:15  <DJNekkid> hi guys ,,, anjyone not drunk+
02:48:59  <DJNekkid> *antone
03:04:05  <Brot6> firs: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/firs/firs/ initiated.
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07:15:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Bug #609 (New): crash when opening sharing settings @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/609 (by planetmaker)
07:16:13  <andythenorth> morning
07:25:59  <planetmaker> moin andythenorth
07:26:12  <andythenorth> arable farm appears to work
07:26:23  <planetmaker> good to hear :-)
07:26:39  <andythenorth> I should have kept the old compiled firs.nfo
07:26:41  <planetmaker> Now: implement it for all other primaries. That's the real test for the template :-)
07:26:50  <andythenorth> we could have diffed it against the templated version
07:26:55  <planetmaker> andythenorth: easy: hg up -r<oldrevision>
07:26:57  <planetmaker> make
07:27:01  <planetmaker> copy it
07:27:02  <planetmaker> hg up
07:27:04  <planetmaker> make
07:27:06  <planetmaker> and compare
07:27:23  <planetmaker> that's why we have a version control system
07:27:27  <andythenorth> :D
07:29:09  <planetmaker> but! basically the md5sum shouldn't change - if it is the only change
07:29:15  <planetmaker> that's even the better test
07:29:51  <planetmaker> and it's easier :-)
07:30:14  <andythenorth> well it seems to work...if there are any doubts we can compare md5sums
07:30:28  <andythenorth> meanwhile...the template isn't a dependency for make?
07:31:07  <planetmaker> uhm... not yet. :-)
07:31:19  <planetmaker> good point. ty
07:31:20  <andythenorth> make clean is my friend once more then
07:34:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 314: Change: shifted some action 2 ids in primary indust... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/314 (by andythenorth)
07:34:55  <planetmaker> hm... md5sums differ
07:40:20  <andythenorth> other changes...
07:50:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 315: Change: shifted some action 2 ids in primary indust... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/315 (by andythenorth)
07:52:03  <planetmaker> andythenorth: pull
07:55:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 316: Fix: The templates are also a dependency for the grf @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/316 (by planetmaker)
07:55:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 317: Cleanup: simplify the detection of modifications a bit @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/317 (by planetmaker)
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08:39:00  <andythenorth__> sorry about that little intermission
08:39:21  <andythenorth__> stupid interwebs
08:39:30  <andythenorth__> planetmaker: so what to do first :)
08:39:43  <andythenorth__> template primary industries, or create template for processing industries?
08:50:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 318: Change: cleaned up comments @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/318 (by andythenorth)
08:50:29  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 319: merge @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/319 (by andythenorth)
08:52:53  <andythenorth__> planetmaker:
08:53:03  <andythenorth__> in the primary template, what is this intended for? THIS_TILE
08:56:49  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 320: Change: converted Iron Ore Mine to use template code @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/320 (by andythenorth)
08:56:51  <planetmaker> wasn't it used in action3?
08:57:16  <andythenorth__> not for the industry itself
08:57:21  <andythenorth__> maybe it will be for the tile action 3
08:57:50  <planetmaker> maybe it's another mistake or super-fluous thing ;-)
08:58:08  <planetmaker> I'm good at submitting those things
08:58:10  <planetmaker> very good
08:58:18  <andythenorth__> I'll remove it
08:58:26  <andythenorth__> if we need it later, we can add it again
08:58:29  <planetmaker> also remove it from the industries :-)
08:59:06  <planetmaker> yes, seems unneeded
08:59:31  <planetmaker> probably I was confused with the tile chain
08:59:45  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 321: Change: removed THIS_TILE def from primary template... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/321 (by andythenorth)
09:04:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 322: Change: converted Forest to use primary template @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/322 (by andythenorth)
09:27:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 323: Change: converted Junk Yard to template code @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/323 (by andythenorth)
09:31:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 324: Change: converted Oil Platform to template code @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/324 (by andythenorth)
09:31:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 325: Change: converted Oil Wells to production code @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/325 (by andythenorth)
09:35:08  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 326: Change: converted Sand Pit to template code @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/326 (by andythenorth)
09:39:41  <andythenorth__> afk
09:58:29  <andythenorth__> planetmaker: feel like working on template for processing industry with me?
09:58:34  <andythenorth__> needs a bit of design though...
10:01:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 327: Change: Sand Pit unsaved changes when converting to... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/327 (by andythenorth)
10:04:59  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 328: Change: converted Dairy Farm to template code @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/328 (by andythenorth)
10:08:45  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 329: Change: converted Fruit Plantation to template code @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/329 (by andythenorth)
10:11:38  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 330: Change: converted Mixed Farm to template code @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/330 (by andythenorth)
10:11:38  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 331: Change: converted Sheep Farm to template code @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/331 (by andythenorth)
10:23:23  <andythenorth__> planetmaker: primary industries templated :)
10:26:40  <planetmaker> sorry, andythenorth__ today I've not much time
10:26:50  <andythenorth__> that's ok
10:26:52  <planetmaker> I'm off to friends place now :-)
10:27:19  <andythenorth__> enjoy
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11:04:09  <Brot6> firs: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/firs/firs/ initiated.
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11:28:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 332: Add: template for secondary industries with three i... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/332 (by andythenorth)
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11:59:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 333: Change: moved Machine Shop debug code to secondary ... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/333 (by andythenorth)
12:13:50  <Ammler> if you use the templates in the code, you should have them below sprites/...
12:14:36  <Ammler> the idea of moving the templates out from sprites was because they are used with copy&paste
12:14:47  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 334: Changed action 2 IDs for text in secondary template A @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/334 (by andythenorth)
12:15:33  <andythenorth__> Ammler: ??
12:15:53  <Ammler> and Hello :-)
12:16:07  <andythenorth__> hi hi
12:16:21  <Ammler> andythenorth__: nvm then...
12:17:15  <Ammler> it is imo a bit strange to load code from outside sprites, that is like openttd would have code outside src/
12:17:26  <andythenorth__> Ammler: I am just working with what planetmaker started....I can change how I do it if it improves maintainability
12:17:42  <andythenorth__> do you mean in the filesystem?
12:17:55  <Ammler> yes, simply organisation :-)
12:18:02  <andythenorth__> which one  :O
12:18:10  <Ammler> the templates
12:18:10  <andythenorth__> is the problem?
12:18:16  <Ammler> none
12:18:38  <andythenorth__> there is this old one from when FooBar started coding
12:18:38  <andythenorth__> template_raw_material_industry.pnfo
12:18:50  <andythenorth__> that can pretty much be rm'ed
12:18:51  <Ammler> it looks strange, that's all, I will tell it to pm
12:18:56  <andythenorth__> ok thanks
12:19:19  <Ammler> it doesn't hurt your current code at all
12:29:04  <andythenorth__> hmmm design decisions
12:33:56  <Ammler> yes, you could also use another file extension like tnfo, so you don't need to prefix the files with template_
12:34:43  <andythenorth__> that would be useful
13:11:38  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 335: Feature: templated production code for Secondary In... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/335 (by andythenorth)
13:11:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 336: Change: provided for more than 1 debugging text in ... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/336 (by andythenorth)
13:21:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 337: Feature: secondary industry template A supports def... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/337 (by andythenorth)
13:38:57  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 338: Fix: mistake with define in primary industry template @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/338 (by andythenorth)
13:44:14  <andythenorth__> grr
13:44:26  <andythenorth__> FIRS just went savegame incompatible, and I have no idea wht
13:44:28  <andythenorth__> why
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16:05:16  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 339: Change: converted Factory to use production template A @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/339 (by andythenorth)
16:13:45  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 340: Change: converted Dairy to use production template A @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/340 (by andythenorth)
16:16:16  <Ammler> andythenorth: btw. you shouldn't hardcode the path to the template
16:16:34  <andythenorth> oh
16:16:41  <andythenorth> define for that?
16:16:48  <Ammler> something like #define productionTemp .../.../....
16:16:55  <andythenorth> attribution....planetmaker :)
16:17:26  <Ammler> well, simple rule, as soon as you need something more then once...
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16:37:48  <andythenorth> Ammler: I can get those defines by copy and paste later...we need to discuss with planetmaker first
16:38:46  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 341: Codechange: production ration now calculated as 'n ... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/341 (by andythenorth)
16:38:46  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 344: Change: updated production ratio for Farm Supply Depot @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/344 (by andythenorth)
16:38:46  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 342: Change: updated production ratio for Factory @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/342 (by andythenorth)
16:38:48  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 343: Change: updated production ratio for Dairy @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/343 (by andythenorth)
16:38:54  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 345: Change: converted Meat Packer to production template A @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/345 (by andythenorth)
16:39:07  <Brot6> Web seems down, restarting apache
16:44:07  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #613 (New): Logic may be flawed in secondary industry production @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/613 (by andythenorth)
17:04:53  <planetmaker> hello
17:04:59  <DJNekkid> hi planetmaker
17:05:44  <planetmaker> andythenorth: possibly Ammler is right: if the templates are not used as copy&paste it might be more sensible to create a dir called sprites/nfo/templates or alike and put those templatest here
17:05:51  <planetmaker> s/here/there/
17:06:26  <planetmaker> defining the path to the templates... well... could be done.
17:06:42  <planetmaker> and hello DJNekkid :-)
17:08:48  <Ammler> well, I meant it specially in advance you might change the path to the templates :-)
17:08:55  <andythenorth> planetmaker: I'm working on something else right now...I won't be committing anything to FIRS for a short while...if you guys wanted to reorganise feel free :)
17:09:00  <Ammler> planetmaker: what you think about another extension like tnfo?
17:09:35  <planetmaker> Ammler: makes sense
17:09:41  <Ammler> so you don't need template_
17:10:35  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 346: change @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/346 (by andythenorth)
17:10:53  <planetmaker> well... it's not needed as it's in the template dir anyway. But yeah
17:12:00  <planetmaker> what an exceptionally verbose commit message, andythenorth :-P
17:12:36  <andythenorth> sorry, got dropped into vim by mistake, always try to get out as soon as possible...pressing the wrong key in vim does...bad things
17:13:09  <planetmaker> then change your default editor ;-)
17:13:47  <Ammler> vim rocks
17:18:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r349 to r350, starting nightly compile
17:19:00  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: compile done (0 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/
17:19:01  <Brot6> bros: nightly compile not needed. (r10)
17:19:01  <Brot6> firs: update from r300 to r346, starting nightly compile
17:19:31  <Brot6> firs: compile done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/
17:19:31  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r159)
17:19:31  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169)
17:19:32  <Brot6> nmts: nightly compile not needed. (r15)
17:19:32  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r209)
17:19:33  <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r43)
17:19:34  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r584)
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18:19:44  <Brot6> is2: new trunk patch: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/is2/trunk-patches/
19:06:06  <Brot6> firs: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/firs/firs/ initiated.
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