Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 1st November 2009:
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02:33:50  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 104M)
02:33:50  <Brot6> I wonder if I should put myself in ESCROW!!
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11:57:35  <andythenorth> planetmaker: it would be awesome to have ISR in the coop repo.  I wonder if it's possible?
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12:30:59  <planetmaker> It is possible as it's GPL. So it might even be added without asking the original authors
12:31:26  <planetmaker> But the question is: do the original authors want / like that?
12:31:36  <planetmaker> If they don't use it, it's not too much use, I guess
12:32:46  <planetmaker> It'd be awesome to have it here, though.
12:32:54  <planetmaker> Same actually goes for TTRS3
12:33:40  <planetmaker> It isn't GPL'ed, but it has a free license concerning (O)TTD(P) usage, too, so that modifications are allowed to be posted
12:34:00  <planetmaker> btw, TTRS3 has exactly that what you need for FIRS: petrol stations :-)
12:35:14  <andythenorth> planetmaker: I would like to work on ISR, or encourage someone else to!  I know some of what mart3p had planned for v0.9.  If he returns, I don't think he'd mind working from the repo.  Anyways, I could ask him
12:35:34  <andythenorth> I really want ISR to show FIRS cargos waiting, it's irritating in game
12:36:08  <planetmaker> andythenorth: you may start such repo, if you want. Nothing holding you back ;-)
12:36:27  <andythenorth> well I'll need to get source from mart3p
12:36:31  <andythenorth> but otherwise, yes
12:36:47  <planetmaker> you could always start with a de-compiled newgrf
12:37:11  <planetmaker> But I guess getting the source from matr3p is the WAY better alternative.
12:37:31  <planetmaker> I wonder whether the source of it looks like the source for the Japanese buildings and landset.
12:37:40  <planetmaker> Which basically is nothing else than a de-compiled newgrf
12:38:47  <planetmaker> I prepared a slightly modified makefile which can deal with that situation without actually changing anything in the decompiled newgrf.
12:39:09  <planetmaker> the patches are posted as issues for the jpland and jpbuild newgrfs
12:39:25  <planetmaker> I wait for dandan to come back to me before I commit them, though
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12:52:59  <planetmaker> wb :-P
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17:18:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r356)
17:18:02  <Brot6> bros: nightly compile not needed. (r10)
17:18:02  <Brot6> firs: update from r358 to r365, starting nightly compile
17:18:28  <Brot6> firs: compile done (1 errors) -
17:18:28  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r159)
17:18:28  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169)
17:18:29  <Brot6> nmts: nightly compile not needed. (r15)
17:18:29  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r213)
17:18:29  <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r43)
17:18:31  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r584)
17:51:00  <andythenorth> planetmaker: I just asked Irwe if he wants to join the repo with Swedish Houses.  I figured you'd be fine with that...
17:51:05  <andythenorth> I'll let you know what he says.
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18:19:46  <Brot6> is2: new trunk patch:
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21:27:18  <Ammler> andythenorth: I think, he should discuss that with his coder as
21:27:38  <Ammler> of course, everyone with a "proper" license is welcome here.
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21:32:09  <Ammler> [22:26] <Ammler> andythenorth: I think, he should discuss that with his coder as
21:32:10  <Ammler> [22:26] <Ammler> of course, everyone with a "proper" license is welcome here.
21:32:28  <andythenorth> Ammler: well he's using GPL
21:32:39  <Ammler> that is "proper" enough :-)
21:33:08  <Ammler> but I guess, it is more up to as than irwe
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22:53:53  <planetmaker> well. Irwe is fine with the devzone. But his coder doesn't like it
22:56:12  <Ammler> planetmaker: as is the coder, isn't he?
22:57:06  <planetmaker> yes
23:02:18  <Ammler> why doesn't he like it?
23:02:44  <planetmaker> he likes to work for himself
23:02:51  <planetmaker> dislikes nightlies
23:04:26  <Ammler> but he is aware of the GPL?
23:05:21  <planetmaker> yes. And he published the code
23:05:38  <Ammler> nightlies isn't a requirement
23:05:39  <planetmaker> GPL does not require a public repo
23:06:14  <planetmaker> I know. Tell that him, not me :-)
23:06:45  <Ammler> well, that is actually very nice.
23:06:58  <Ammler> there are other forum gpl projects without published sources.
23:07:00  <planetmaker> I tried once to persuade him of the advantages
23:08:37  <Ammler> they might tell, that you can ask for the sources, but I don't like that.
23:10:02  <planetmaker> indeed
23:10:33  <Ammler> maybe we should "test" that, ask for the sources of the usset ;-)
23:10:39  <planetmaker> hm... obviously I talked to as in IRC back then and not forum mail. So I have no log of that conversation
23:11:07  <planetmaker> I actually told as that I'll ask for the source, if he doesn't publish it ;-)
23:12:22  <Ammler> and there is no need to use our DevZone, there are so many other alternatives
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23:13:10  <planetmaker> he posted a zip of the sources in tt-forums
23:13:24  <planetmaker> I didn't check it out actually ,though
23:13:38  <planetmaker> I bet he doesn't use a VCS
23:13:50  <Ammler> well, as long as it isn't decoded grf
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23:22:28  <planetmaker> I'll look
23:26:53  <planetmaker> it's the source. Not something de-coded
23:27:34  <planetmaker> though renum probably already ran over it
23:32:17  <Ammler> he, stupid denyhost banned me all the time for making sftp ;-)
23:33:11  <Ammler> he, it doesn't like me switching with usernames :-)
23:38:09  <planetmaker> hm...
23:38:14  <planetmaker> then we should change that
23:40:52  <Ammler> well, I guess, it is more me than denyhosts :-)
23:41:19  <Ammler> switching to users, which don't have authorized_keys
23:42:12  <Ammler> I will comment your denyhosts conf anyway....
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23:50:37  <planetmaker> comment? Why not adjust as needed?
23:50:43  <planetmaker> I'll see the diff then :-)
23:51:25  <planetmaker> (though I still consider it sensible)
23:54:40  <Ammler> planetmaker: btw.
23:54:49  <Ammler> what happen with gen_rivers.patch?
23:55:30  * Ammler is copying files from mozart to salieri
23:56:11  <planetmaker> well... it's a dormant patch
23:56:26  <Ammler> rsync: write failed on "/home/openttdcoop/public_html/blog/files/videos/osais_terminus_station_tutorial.mp4": Disk quota exceeded (122) <-- LOL
23:56:42  <planetmaker> I didn't follow it further as it requires IMO a completely different approach.
23:57:16  <Ammler> I wasn't aware, we set quota :-)
23:57:21  <planetmaker> you would want to make rivers such that they flow or flood, so that you cannot completely destroy them, I guess
23:57:38  * planetmaker wasn't aware of that either. I actually thought we set them to disabled
23:59:31  <Ammler> well, quota isn't a bad idea for some domains
23:59:46  <Ammler> but 1 GB is a bit low for

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