Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 10th November 2009:
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00:12:18  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Avignon - Revision 535: Fix (r533): [namespace current] didn't make sense inside this area @ (by Osai)
00:12:18  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Avignon - Revision 536: -Fix (r535): This didn't read the configuration set in user.ini @ (by Osai)
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02:11:47  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2864: Adds a link to automatically close completed versions in project setting... @ (by jplang)
02:34:10  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 104M)
02:34:10  <Brot6> I brought my BOWLING BALL -- and some DRUGS!!
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08:18:26  <planetmaker> yes, I know and knew... too much RL work right now...
08:18:34  <planetmaker> beta5 should be announced.
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10:58:34  <Hirundo> "too much RL work" <- me too, will edit 1st post tonight
11:02:47  <Rubidium> but lots of really light work is the divide and conqueror approach; you just need to distribute the work properly! :)
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14:03:51  <Rubidium> must say that the 'feedback' on all the cries for help to finish Open[GS]FX is really depressing :(
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14:41:00  <Ammler> but the page views are around 10 times as much as before your news
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16:29:17  <planetmaker> good evening
16:29:27  <Rubidium> evenin'
16:30:43  <planetmaker> indeed, I'm also amazed how much effort people put into yet another <whatever newgrf> but no single person cares to help finishing the base grfs which will have a far bigger audience.
16:39:48  <planetmaker> Now, let's announce IS2.0-beta5 :-)
16:43:45  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Avignon - Revision 537: -Fix (r535): I finally managed it to use the correct namespace path. @ (by Osai)
16:43:45  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 13763: Added tag IS2.0-beta5 for changeset 1767ebc9758c @ (by planetmaker)
16:47:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 13764: [IS] Revert: Setting version to IS2.0-beta5 @ (by planetmaker)
16:49:03  <Rubidium> planetmaker: the classic "oh, someone else can do that; it's fine for me" issue
16:53:13  <planetmaker> yes, I fear so :S
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17:11:29  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Avignon - Revision 538: -Change: Added config file handling for OpenTTD. By default Avignon choos... @ (by Osai)
17:18:01  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: no commit since last failed compile, compile skipped (r371)
17:18:02  <Brot6> bros: nightly compile not needed. (r10)
17:18:02  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r365)
17:18:02  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r159)
17:18:02  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169)
17:18:03  <Brot6> nmts: nightly compile not needed. (r15)
17:18:04  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r216)
17:18:06  <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r43)
17:18:08  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r584)
18:19:55  <Brot6> is2: new trunk patch:
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18:21:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #137: Misaligned trains @ (by DJNekkid)
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18:22:36  <Ammler> if someone likes to see google analytics of our webpages, please drop your google account here
18:22:39  <Ammler> (or pm)
18:24:06  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #164 (Rejected): GE Genesis with Express Wagon @ (by DJNekkid)
18:26:47  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #511 (Closed): Undefined strings in metro purchase list @ (by DJNekkid)
18:26:47  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Feature #527: License for versions beyond 1.0.2 @ (by DJNekkid)
18:29:20  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Feature #527: License for versions beyond 1.0.2 @ (by planetmaker)
18:29:20  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Feature #510 (Rejected): Show introduction date for wagons @ (by DJNekkid)
18:31:10  <planetmaker> 1 	4145 	1.79% 	3153 	36.99% 	/projects/opengfx <-- one third of the people visiting the devzone visit the opengfx page directly...
18:33:07  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Feature #80 (Feedback): Remeber to add Alex' britsh DMUs @ (by DJNekkid)
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18:36:01  <DJNekkid> hi guys... i just updated a few of the bugs... Im not sure if its updated via irc as well
18:36:44  <planetmaker> yes
18:36:45  <Rubidium> now fix the compiling
18:36:54  <planetmaker> and hi :-)
18:37:30  <planetmaker> and I wonder why adding the wagon intro year needs to be in OpenTTD instead of a wagon description string...
18:37:42  <DJNekkid> two reasons:
18:37:46  <DJNekkid> we have a limited number of strings
18:38:05  <DJNekkid> and, with a string its not precise
18:38:15  <DJNekkid> it would actually be +- 2 years
18:38:27  <DJNekkid> (date +-511 days)
18:38:33  <DJNekkid> thats why :)
18:38:41  <planetmaker> the latter makes sense, yes
18:38:55  <planetmaker> I don't see us having too many strings, though ;-)
18:39:50  <DJNekkid> its up to a few by now...
18:40:55  <planetmaker> hm... alreadyß
18:41:02  <planetmaker> s/ß/?/
18:41:52  <DJNekkid> 40 strings on MU's, 17 on metros, about 5 errors...
18:42:14  <DJNekkid> nowhere near the limit tho...
18:43:51  <DJNekkid> but i need to go abit afk, change to wintertyers on my car :)
18:50:55  <planetmaker> He... I don't need to do that. I change cars :-P
18:51:13  <planetmaker> Finally... it arrived and I'll get it on Friday.
19:01:16  <DJNekkid> back
19:02:14  <DJNekkid> took me ...
19:02:32  <DJNekkid> [19:43:41] <DJNekkid> but i
19:02:35  <DJNekkid> [20:01:06] <DJNekkid> back
19:02:40  <DJNekkid> less then 20 mins :)
19:03:45  <DJNekkid> less then what you need to find the last winters jacked on the loft, and the keys to the other car... :p
19:04:08  <Brot6> is2: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
19:04:32  <DJNekkid> but Rubidium ... [19:36:35] <Rubidium> now fix the compiling
19:04:44  <DJNekkid> what? where?
19:04:58  <Rubidium> missing file, upper/lowercase mismatch
19:05:08  <Rubidium> 18:18 < Brot6> 2cctrainset: no commit since last failed compile, compile skipped (r371)
19:05:12  <Rubidium> ^ says it all
19:05:31  <DJNekkid> oh ... i looked in the error-log, but it didnt have any... :)
19:06:12  <DJNekkid>
19:06:21  <Rubidium>
19:07:00  <DJNekkid> didnt see that one :P
19:07:13  <Rubidium> again bundles gets bitten by reverse sorting on name instead of sorting on date
19:09:31  <DJNekkid> there
19:09:49  <DJNekkid> are you able to do a check if it _actually_ worked? im driving windows :P
19:09:51  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 372: Fix: Compile fail on r371 on *nix systems @ (by DJNekkid)
19:18:54  <planetmaker> looks like I didn't get any complaint here, DJNekkid :-)
19:19:12  <DJNekkid> GOOD SHIT
19:19:15  <DJNekkid> ehm, sorry, caps :)
19:19:23  * planetmaker hugs DJNekkid 
19:19:51  * DJNekkid kiss planetmaker
19:20:13  <planetmaker> iew... Brüderschaft? Like socialist kisses?
19:20:24  <DJNekkid> whatever makes you happy :P
19:20:38  <planetmaker> Something I never got used to... men kissing men for whatever reason...
19:20:57  <DJNekkid> but girl + girl is OK ? :)
19:21:12  <planetmaker> and then they expect it further East... awkward at best, I say :-)
19:21:56  <planetmaker> girl+girl: I don't care. I'm not one, so I won't be in that situation. What other people do is only their doing
19:22:33  <DJNekkid> hehe... :)
19:22:53  <ODM> right
19:23:02  <DJNekkid> <3 girl + girl kissing :P
19:23:25  <DJNekkid> probably got a good thousend pix of my wife doing just that :P
19:23:30  <ODM> you can't just say those things and not provide any evidence
19:23:39  <ODM> this is the internet remember
19:23:40  <planetmaker> :-D
19:23:55  <planetmaker> according to wikipedia, the internet is irrelevant
19:24:12  <ODM> the internet is a series of tubes
19:24:29  <DJNekkid> ODM: remind me of it in about 2 weeks, i dont have network drive i usually have where i am now :)
19:24:37  <planetmaker> Itube, youtube, hetube, shetube...
19:24:38  <DJNekkid> or perhaps i can find some on facebook...
19:24:49  <ODM> lol
19:24:54  <ODM> i didnt mean your wife
19:24:56  <ODM> that would be wrong
19:25:08  <DJNekkid> it would?
19:25:11  <ODM> just in general
19:25:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 373: Add: nustyle DMU template file @ (by DJNekkid)
19:25:12  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 374: Change: All possible DMUs are now nustyle :P @ (by DJNekkid)
19:25:13  <planetmaker> :-D
19:25:19  <ODM> yes, there are morals with these things
19:26:36  <planetmaker> moral is only the concensus of the majority on how _you_ should behave
19:26:59  <planetmaker> why should you care, if _you_ and _your girlfirend_ give shit about that?
19:27:09  <ODM> dont go philosophical on me
19:27:15  <planetmaker> too late :-P
19:27:23  <ODM> ill create a black hole!
19:27:29  <planetmaker> I don't care.
19:27:32  <planetmaker> ;-)
19:28:21  <ODM> it'll suck you up into nothingness!
19:33:09  <planetmaker> I'm frightened ;-) But I'm a white hole....
19:33:26  <DJNekkid> theese are close:
19:33:27  <DJNekkid>
19:33:29  <Webster> Title: Login | Facebook (at
19:33:29  <DJNekkid>
19:33:31  <Webster> Title: Login | Facebook (at
19:35:17  <DJNekkid> ODM
19:36:22  <ODM> i'll have to decline on the grounds of facebook:P
19:38:21  <DJNekkid>
19:38:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - 2651_92303585534_550215534_2823429_2216621_n.jpg @ (by DJNekkid)
19:38:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - 2651_92303595534_550215534_2823430_2557770_n.jpg @ (by DJNekkid)
19:38:30  <DJNekkid> check there ODM
19:38:47  <planetmaker> he...
19:41:35  <ODM> lol, devzone ftw?:P
19:41:56  <ODM> you must be married quite young or?
19:42:09  <DJNekkid> we are now ... lets see ... 25 and 28...
19:42:15  <DJNekkid> and its 2 years ago
19:42:22  <DJNekkid> so ... 23 and 26
19:42:46  <ODM> nice:)
19:43:45  <DJNekkid> and we have a winner! :)
19:43:56  * planetmaker wonders when child processes will be spawned ;-)
19:44:53  <DJNekkid> ODM check the link that pops soon :)
19:45:06  <Rubidium> planetmaker: upon birth?
19:45:15  <ODM> upon conception?
19:45:19  <ODM> it does a fork
19:45:36  <DJNekkid>
19:45:46  <ODM> aight, you win:P
19:46:06  <Brot6> Web seems down, restarting apache
19:46:26  <planetmaker> Rubidium, I have to rather agree with ODM :-)
19:46:40  <Hirundo> <Edited 1st IS post
19:47:02  <planetmaker> :-) Hirundo you may have seen, I added a last one
19:47:11  <Hirundo> I'm linking to it
19:47:33  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - n550215534_742602_265.jpg @ (by DJNekkid)
19:47:34  <Rubidium> before birth it's a thread of mother; using mother's systems to stay alive
19:48:01  <planetmaker> The changelog is only a lazy one, though and could use refinement.
19:48:13  <planetmaker> hehe @ Rubidium :-)
19:48:25  <planetmaker> you have a point there
19:48:33  <Hirundo> Filtering for 'feature' will make it painfully short I fear :)
19:48:46  <planetmaker> Hirundo, that doesn't matter, I think :-)
19:48:56  <planetmaker> It has been feature-complete for some time IMO
19:49:14  <Hirundo> s/complete/overcomplete IMO
19:49:23  <planetmaker> :-)
19:49:47  <planetmaker> Now we take the axe and cut it back to something cute and tiny? ;-)
19:50:39  <Hirundo> I'd prefer a patch <100k, current being 138
19:51:29  <planetmaker> :-) cat patch.diff | zip > :-P
19:51:46  <planetmaker> should compress quite well
19:52:32  <Hirundo> I don't think anyone can read zip files in a text editor :)
19:52:46  <DJNekkid> you _can_
19:52:57  <DJNekkid> :P
19:53:06  <Rubidium> read != understand
19:53:19  <DJNekkid> hehe Rubidium :)
19:53:23  <Rubidium> e.g. smiley smiley block smiley I can read; don't know what it means
19:54:47  <Hirundo> n.b. 'anyone' does not include chuck norris
19:56:28  <DJNekkid> in norway we have something called "skattelister" ... roughly translated to tax lists...
19:57:26  <DJNekkid> the end of october every year the government publish how much everyone earns and what they pay in taxes...
19:57:36  <DJNekkid> if you search for chuck norris:
19:57:36  <DJNekkid>
19:57:37  <Webster> Title: Google Oversetter (at
19:59:45  <Hirundo> :P
20:04:07  <Brot6> derailed, restarting apache
20:04:23  <planetmaker> loool @ DJN's link
20:05:15  <DJNekkid> hehe
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22:44:49  <Hirundo> planetmaker: could you take a look at the patch posted here: ?
22:47:17  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Feature #641 (New): gui rewrite @ (by Hirundo)
22:47:52  <planetmaker> one sec
22:51:25  <planetmaker> hm... doesn't compile
22:51:53  <Hirundo> What is the error?
22:51:54  <planetmaker>  @ Hirundo
22:53:41  <Hirundo> I see
22:55:07  <Hirundo> It seems MSVC is a little less strict wrt enums and their type
22:55:20  <planetmaker> seems like
22:55:36  <planetmaker> I'm using gcc 4.2
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22:56:03  <Hirundo> I posted an updated diff
22:56:16  <Hirundo> Is gcc available for windows?
22:57:22  <planetmaker> I would bet
22:57:26  <planetmaker> e.g. mingw
22:58:48  <Hirundo> I'll install it once I have the time to play around wit ith
22:58:52  <planetmaker> (installing mingw would then also allow you to make all newgrfs which come with a makefile ;-) )
22:58:57  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Feature #641: gui rewrite @ (by Hirundo)
22:59:15  <planetmaker> mingw has an exceptionally good wiki describing the installation IMO
22:59:23  <Hirundo> "wit ith" <- It's getting too late :)
22:59:38  <planetmaker> :-)
22:59:40  <planetmaker> indeed
22:59:59  <planetmaker> long day ahead tomorrow...
23:00:51  <planetmaker> new patch seems to compile, if it doesn't stumble on the last few files
23:01:18  <planetmaker> it's fine
23:03:26  <Hirundo> A lot of stuff still needs to be added and changed, but the basic structure is there
23:04:01  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
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23:08:35  <planetmaker> anyway. I think it's way past time for bed.
23:09:16  <planetmaker> Good work as usual :-)
23:09:27  <planetmaker> And now a good night from me :-)
23:09:40  <Hirundo> same
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