Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 26th December 2009:
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02:12:10  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 3082: Removes column opt in enumerations table. @ (by jplang)
02:12:10  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 3083: View cleanup. @ (by jplang)
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09:02:59  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 178: Change: trailer sprite, offsets for Kander Foundry T... @ (by andythenorth)
09:20:19  <Brot6> feed DevZone had 12 updates, showing the latest 10
09:20:19  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14503: (svn r18630) -Fix [FS#3419]: when making a screenshot th... @ (by Rubidium)
09:20:19  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14504: (svn r18631) -Fix [FS#3419]: when making a screenshot fr... @ (by Rubidium)
09:20:19  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14505: (svn r18632) -Fix (r18629): error in string caused failu... @ (by Rubidium)
09:20:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14506: (svn r18633) -Codechange: fortify SmallVector a bit more @ (by SmatZ)
09:20:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14507: (svn r18634) -Revert (r16808): the fix doesn't work in a... @ (by Rubidium)
09:20:33  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14508: (svn r18635) -Codechange: store TextEffects in a SmallVe... @ (by SmatZ)
09:20:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14509: (svn r18636) -Codechange: make TextEffect::duration a va... @ (by SmatZ)
09:20:41  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14510: (svn r18637) -Fix [FS#3428]: check whether the content l... @ (by Rubidium)
09:20:45  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14511: [IS] Merge: trunk up to r18637 @ (by Hirundo)
09:20:48  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14512: [IS] Feature: Add shadebox to the IS window. @ (by Hirundo)
09:41:03  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 179: Change: offsets for Kander Foundry Transporter front... @ (by andythenorth)
09:42:36  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 180: Change: tweak offsets for view 7 Kander Transporter ... @ (by andythenorth)
10:11:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 181: Change: Kander Transporter default cargo steel @ (by andythenorth)
10:15:17  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14513: [IS] Import patches up to 'signals' from issue #670 @ (by Hirundo)
10:15:17  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14514: [IS] Merge the changes from the patch queue with the mai... @ (by Hirundo)
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11:33:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14515: [IS] Codechange: Rename variables and strings related to... @ (by Hirundo)
11:46:08  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 182: Change: figured out refit mask for Kander Foundry Tr... @ (by andythenorth)
11:52:48  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14516: [IS] Don't include stdafx.h in infrastructure.h, include... @ (by Hirundo)
11:52:48  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14517: [IS] Codechange: Copy implementation of UpdateAllBlockSi... @ (by Hirundo)
11:52:48  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14518: [IS] Codechange: Use implementation of DeleteVisibleTrai... @ (by Hirundo)
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15:04:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 183: Change: cleaned up real sprite code for Kander Trans... @ (by andythenorth)
15:04:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 184: Removed unnecessary folder structure for Foundry Tra... @ (by andythenorth)
15:04:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 185: Cleanup: removed old pcx files and redundant folder ... @ (by andythenorth)
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15:28:31  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 189: Change: moved location of pcx for bulldozers @ (by andythenorth)
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15:33:44  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 193: Change: moved location of pcx for heavy trucks @ (by andythenorth)
15:35:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 194: Cleanup: removed redundant file @ (by andythenorth)
15:42:02  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 195: Cleanup: removed redundant reference to heqs2.pcx @ (by andythenorth)
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17:14:49  <Hirundo> I'm considering adding fees to the patch queue to keep folks happy, then asking for a compile
17:16:14  <PeterT> Please keep fees
17:16:19  <PeterT> its the whole point of Infra sharing
17:18:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r413)
17:18:04  <Brot6> bros: nightly compile not needed. (r10)
17:18:05  <Brot6> comic-houses: nightly compile not needed. (r68)
17:18:06  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r366)
17:18:06  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r225)
17:18:07  <Brot6> heqs: update from r175 to r195, starting nightly compile
17:18:54  <Brot6> heqs: compile done (49 errors) -
17:18:54  <Brot6> nmts: nightly compile not needed. (r15)
17:18:55  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r295)
17:18:55  <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r70)
17:18:55  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r584)
17:37:40  <Hirundo> I'm (re)coding the fees now
17:37:45  <PeterT> Sweet
18:01:33  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14519: [IS] Fix: Reorder includes to make more sense. @ (by Hirundo)
18:06:50  <Hirundo> Ammler, planetmaker, are you around?
18:20:03  <Brot6> is2: new trunk patch:
18:27:00  <Ammler> Hirundo: ?
18:27:23  <Hirundo> I'm planning to release a new version based on the patch series
18:28:06  <Hirundo> What version should it have?
18:28:29  <Hirundo> 2.1? 3.0? 2.5? just beta6?
18:28:40  <Ammler> :-)
18:28:54  <Ammler> is that patch serie somewhere available?
18:29:23  <Ammler> wouldn't that be a nice point to drop beta?
18:29:34  <Ammler> so either 2.0 or 2.1?
18:30:37  <Hirundo> new files added here
18:30:39  <Ammler> hmm, not 2.0, as some might think 2.0 < 2 beta5
18:31:00  <Hirundo> 2.1 beta 1?
18:31:06  <Ammler> no beta :-)
18:31:08  <Ammler> just 2.1
18:31:28  <Hirundo> given the amount of new code I wouldn't consider it stable or release-ready :)
18:32:00  <Hirundo> but we could step up to a new versioning scheme
18:32:49  <Ammler> I would say the word patch doesn somehow imply "unstable"
18:32:57  <Ammler> -n
18:33:39  <Hirundo> just 2.1 it will be
18:33:58  <Ammler> maybe 1.0-IS2.1
18:34:21  <Ammler> to see, for which openttd version the patch is meant
18:35:00  <Ammler> hmm, no dash
18:35:07  <Ammler> 1.0.IS2.1
18:35:17  <Ammler> :-)
18:36:10  <Ammler> but how do I get the source?
18:36:33  <Ammler> do you manage the patch queue manually?
18:38:24  <Hirundo> I'm currently preparing to push the source into the normal repo
18:38:32  <Hirundo> In the most hackish way possible :)
18:39:07  <Ammler> hmm, and how does that help you developing?
18:39:47  <Hirundo> not
18:40:06  <Hirundo> Currently I have a separate repository to develop the patch queue
18:40:28  <Ammler> and why not making that repo the public repo?
18:40:46  <Hirundo> Because it takes time which I currently lack
18:41:01  <Ammler> what needs time?
18:41:02  <Hirundo> I will do it soon
18:41:49  <Hirundo> But I have to go in ~20 minutes, and I'd like to get something online before that
18:49:01  <Hirundo> How do the binaries usually get from the CF to ?
18:51:04  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14520: [IS] Import patch queue to allow compilation by the comp... @ (by Hirundo)
18:51:04  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14521: [IS] Prepare: Release of IS2.1 @ (by Hirundo)
18:53:29  <Ammler> they will be uploaded automatically from the CF
18:53:55  <Ammler> but it needs renaming, it has somehow strange support for releases
18:54:16  <Ammler> Rubidium: do you rename the openttd releases everytime by hand?
18:54:42  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 196: Feature: Kander Foundry Transporter @ (by andythenorth)
18:54:52  <Rubidium> what do you mean with rename?
18:55:12  <Rubidium> it just gets 'the right' name
18:55:33  <Ammler> hmm, and why doesnt that work for the IS2 compile?
18:56:36  <Rubidium> how are they named then?
18:56:54  <Ammler> they use the hg hash from tip
18:57:09  <Ammler> instead the rev definied in the source
18:57:31  <Rubidium> it's using whatever is presented to it by
18:57:52  <Ammler> but we do patch for that case too
18:58:08  <Rubidium> then I got no clue and you've got to ask TB
18:58:37  <Hirundo> Anyways, would it be possible to do a compile tonight, after the nightly?
18:58:54  <Rubidium> probably, if I don't forget to start it
18:59:17  <Ammler> Rubidium: if you do, ping someone here then :-)
18:59:27  <Hirundo> great
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18:59:53  <Ammler> Hirundo: I can do the rename stuff after it
19:00:15  <Ammler> as I need to work on the devzone tonight anyway...
19:00:58  <Hirundo> OK, then I'll fix the forum post when I get back home
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19:05:16  <Ammler> maybe the release stuff works only with svn
19:23:13  <Ammler> or we patched the wrong column
19:23:23  <Ammler> it might need to be the 4th
19:28:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14522: [IS] also patch the 4th column with tagx @ (by Ammler)
19:40:26  <Rubidium> I can just start the CF for IS?
19:45:00  <Rubidium> Ammler/Hirundo?
19:51:26  <Ammler> Rubidium: yes, tip should be ready
19:53:49  <Rubidium> then it'll be done in about 45 minutes
19:54:04  <Ammler> thanks in advance
19:54:23  <Ammler> hmm, I should slowly start to move the devzone :-)
20:21:24  <Rubidium> and now you only have to wait till the Mac build is done...
20:22:48  <Rubidium> and that build is started first... all the other builds can be done on two cores in 70% of the time it takes to build the fracking Mac binaries on one core
20:26:31  <Ammler> the Mac binaries are the main reason for using your farm
20:26:56  <Ammler> windows and linux could be easy build by ourself ;-)
20:27:01  <Rubidium> lol :)
20:27:11  <Rubidium> then you're not using the farm for long anymore
20:28:41  <Ammler> I know 3 OSX geeks and nobody of them likes to support you?
20:28:55  <Ammler> planetmaker: dihedral and Osai...
20:29:32  <Rubidium> well... they're not that into (Object) C(++)
20:30:13  <Ammler> indeed, someone who knows C++ doesn't use OSX :-)
20:30:40  <Rubidium> planetmaker has tried to help, but he doesn't seem to grasp pointers and then you're not very useful
20:31:13  <Rubidium> from the others I doubt they have any reasonable knowledge of Apple's APIs
20:31:38  <Ammler> so we need to donate a mac to you :-)
20:31:39  <Rubidium> and it has been on the frontpage for like 2 months now, I've asked for maintainers several times for the last half year
20:32:10  <Rubidium> Ammler: no, I refuse to run Apple stuff
20:32:23  <Rubidium> out of principle
20:32:25  <Ammler> :-D
20:33:04  <Rubidium> and for what it's worth, TB now has a Mac and he doesn't even want to consider diving into the API
20:33:51  <Rubidium> anyhow "it"'s done
20:34:10  <Ammler> nice, hoe it does transfer to the new server
20:34:19  <Rubidium> no clue
20:35:18  <Rubidium> it hasn't complained that it failed doing that, but then I don't know whether it's going to say anything about that
20:35:56  <Ammler> hmm, it got transfered to the old server
20:36:50  <Ammler> so it doesn't use or
20:36:55  <Rubidium> that's entirely plausible
20:36:59  <Rubidium> openttd@mz
20:37:04  <Ammler> ah
20:37:08  <Ammler> that explains
20:37:13  <Rubidium> ssh_dir: /home/openttd/public_html/is2/@@revision@@
20:37:19  <Rubidium> ssh_login:
20:37:29  <Ammler> but it writes now the right revision
20:37:36  <Ammler> no rename needed anymore :-)
20:37:54  <Ammler> and from tomorrow is also on the new server
20:38:00  <Ammler> so no need to change there
20:38:13  <Ammler> if you like to change, the right host would be
20:38:30  <Rubidium> just disconnected :(
20:39:36  <Ammler> might be complete
20:44:22  <Ammler>
20:58:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Code Review #694 (New): patching for release @ (by Ammler)
21:02:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Code Review #694 (New): patching for release @ (by Ammler)
21:04:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 197: Feature: scrap metal sprites for Kander Foundry Tran... @ (by andythenorth)
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22:21:22  <Ammler> @op
22:21:33  <Ammler> @services op
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22:21:37  <Ammler> @op
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22:22:01  <Ammler> @topic insert SERVER IS DOWN FOR A BIT
22:22:01  *** Webster changes topic to "SERVER IS DOWN FOR A BIT | Talk about things hosted and developed on | Logs: | Downloads log:"
22:24:11  <PeterT> Thanks for the update, Rubidium, Ammler, and Hirundo!
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23:04:06  <Brot6> heqs: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
23:20:57  <PeterT> Where do I submit bugs to for IS2?
23:21:04  <PeterT> Hirundo, Ammler, Rubidium?
23:22:59  <welshdragon> on the tt-forums thread
23:23:02  <welshdragon> ;)
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23:23:09  <PeterT> Got it
23:25:11  <PeterT> Assertion failed at line 240 of c:\openttd\compile\src\core\smallvec_type.hpp: index < this->items
23:25:15  <PeterT> Oops
23:25:16  <PeterT>
23:25:18  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Infrastructure sharing 2.0 beta 5 (at
23:25:32  <Ammler> well, devzone would be better :-)
23:25:44  <PeterT> A bit late
23:25:48  <Ammler> then it wouldn't go lost
23:25:56  <PeterT> Should I delete my post and report it at devzone?
23:26:02  <PeterT> I just need a link, please
23:26:05  <Ammler> but that thread got read by Hirundo too
23:26:33  <PeterT> What should I do, Ammler?
23:26:58  <Ammler> but you can keep it as you like
23:27:03  <Ammler> both works
23:27:36  <PeterT> Ok, I keep it there
23:28:14  <Ammler> yes, currently the devzone is a bit weak anywa :-)
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23:32:15  <PeterT> Ammler:
23:32:19  <PeterT> How did I do?
23:34:08  <Ammler> oh, the assert is on IS2.1?
23:35:13  <Ammler> very nice to see other people editing that page :-)
23:35:45  <Ammler> I would remove the download links from the old releases
23:37:16  <Ammler> when I remove those bundles from, you get there a lot dead links
23:39:41  <PeterT> Why remove them, Ammler?? :-(
23:39:56  <Ammler> why would you like to play beta2?
23:40:13  <PeterT> Why not?
23:40:19  <PeterT> I would keep them
23:40:38  <PeterT> Please
23:40:45  <Ammler> :-D
23:40:56  <PeterT> For whatever reason it may be, I would play beta2
23:41:01  <Ammler> feel free to download those files and host them :-P
23:41:23  <Ammler> removes the nightlies after around 3 months
23:41:54  <PeterT> That's not true
23:42:11  <PeterT>
23:42:18  <Ammler> yes, go in there
23:42:21  <PeterT> Oh, damn
23:42:23  <PeterT> you're right
23:42:24  <PeterT> noooo
23:42:26  <KenjiE20> technically you can reproduce beta from SVN, there's just now pre-compile
23:42:32  <KenjiE20> s/now/no/
23:42:33  <PeterT> Now I can only get it from compiling
23:42:39  <Ammler> yep
23:42:50  <Ammler> that is fine enough
23:42:53  <Rubidium> Ammler: the binaries of the nightlies
23:43:21  <Rubidium> the sources remain
23:43:59  <Ammler> yeah, that is a pseudo backup of svn?
23:44:27  <Rubidium> nah, more the clause that says you need to keep the source for 3 years of binaries in GPL
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23:44:40  <Ammler> ah ok :-)
23:45:00  <Ammler> and svn wouldn't be valid?
23:45:08  <PeterT> Will you keep the patches up still?
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23:45:22  <Rubidium> it probably would be
23:45:32  <Rubidium> this just keeps the history of nightlies around
23:45:35  <Ammler> PeterT: currently I didn't delete anything
23:45:45  <Ammler> it just might happen sometime
23:46:03  <PeterT> If it does, please keep the patches up, so I may re-build them
23:46:20  <PeterT> Wait...
23:46:26  <Ammler> yes, as rubi said, we need to keep the sources :-)
23:46:30  <PeterT> You don't even have the patch for beta2
23:46:36  <Ammler> we have
23:47:09  <PeterT> Is it at trunk-patches?
23:48:36  <Ammler> check again :-)
23:50:49  <Ammler> but I doubt you need it
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23:51:26  <Brot6> is2: new trunk patch:
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23:52:51  <PeterT> Thanks :-)
23:53:58  <Ammler> hmm, IS2.1 patch is only 60kB?
23:54:33  <PeterT> I was wondering about that too

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